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help me pick a rom

Wassup everyone im fairly new to this forum but before posting i have been looking around for an answer to my question but no luck...im looking for a rom that has all the features of sense,like facebook contact sync for instance i want something that gives me all the features of sense n more without sacrificing certain factors jst for the sake of performance...

ochuni3 said:
Wassup everyone im fairly new to this forum but before posting i have been looking around for an answer to my question but no luck...im looking for a rom that has all the features of sense,like facebook contact sync for instance i want something that gives me all the features of sense n more without sacrificing certain factors jst for the sake of performance...
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That's pretty much why I just use a rooted version of the stock rom.

Yeah, right now im using the stock rom with netarchy kernal

Im a huge fan of the Damage Control and Fresh ROMs. Im a bigger fan of the Fresh ROM and am currently running his 0.5.3 version. Anything that has been removed by the developer you can always re add to make it your own.

I'm using Damage Control right now, but it gets the boot as soon as CyanogenMod is released.
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Hey guys, could you either describe or post links to threads describing some of the roms that you're bringing up?
I mainly rooted my phone to customize the hell out of it, but now I'm interested in things liek overclocking it, and using less battery without losing use of my camera and camcorder.

Ok ok so which would be the closest to the features that sense offers by the way on those roms can u use sense widgets

if you really really like sense and do not want to get rid of it you don't have to. the ROMs like Fresh and DC uninstall only parts of Sense...and they put those parts in a folder. if you to add something back like FriendStream or FMRadio for example, then you just double click it to reinstall it.
from your two posts, i'd say use Fresh 1.0.1 or stay with your clean rooted rom. it's ok either way...the nifty thing about getting full root w/ NAND is that you can create an 'image' of you EVO. then load up the DC ROM or the Beast ROM...if you don't like it, revert back to your image and away you go. figure about 5min to create or restore from an image.
install something like adw.launcher or launcherpro and then you can actually see what breaks when your not using sense. (it is very easy, simple and non destructive to flip flop which 'application launcher' you use)
Fresh - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=726090
I think Fresh may be a bit more conservative in his work than the DC team. HTC Sense will still be available on both once you are rooted and booted. it won't be until you install/use an alternate launcher that Sense widgets have issue. if you continue to use Sense then you can reinstall those component very easily.
i would suggest that you spend more time reading the Development thread. the answers ARE all here...unfortunately, threads like this one add to the overall chaos on the site. but its ok...search tools are your friend.
TJDuckett - read up on DamageControl and Fresh. Toast and Netarchy have custom kernels available. CM6 will be out soon, you will probably want to read up on it as well. use the xda search or google ( add site:xda-developers.com to your queries). good luck and enjoy.

Oh wow that's alot of good info thanks alot, i try to do as much research as possible before i post anything... one last question n i think i'll be good to go. When i did the nandroid backup image (i have clockwork recovery) that image when loaded is a full restore of how i had it when the image was created

ochuni3 said:
Oh wow that's alot of good info thanks alot, i try to do as much research as possible before i post anything... one last question n i think i'll be good to go. When i did the nandroid backup image (i have clockwork recovery) that image when loaded is a full restore of how i had it when the image was created
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at 6:50pm check out the FrEak E Evo Rom...its being uploaded as i type this and has what you're looking for...

Yay 4 Juggs said:
at 6:50pm check out the FrEak E Evo Rom...its being uploaded as i type this and has what you're looking for...
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I have a question about the flash 10.1 that's included... is it ACTUAL full flash, or is it the one that I read about on here (in the NO FROYO NEEDED! thread), that's pretty much bunk?
If it's actual, full flash, then is it one that I can just add onto what I have now?
Because, I'm running rooted 1.47.651.1 with damned near the exact same, custom theme, and don't really see the difference between what I've got and what's listed on this rom.
... definitely not trying to put down anyone's efforts, and in fact I'm asking, because it's so similar to what I'm running that it may be what I go for if it has something enticing.

[Q] Which root has least Sprint crap, most stable WiMAX, and best battery use??

So far I have tried unrEVOked and AVA-FROYO V10.
unrEVOked is little bit behind on latest kernels and is stuffed with Sprint garbage. It did have great battery life with 4G and WiFi enabled (12 hours for me).
AVA-FROYO V10 was OK, very little Sprint crap... but battery life on it was extremely unpredictable (from 4 hours to 12 with cell standby chewing up most).
Unfortunately the latest radio update messed it up and now I need to reflash everything, so might as well look at other roots.

Myn
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Do you mean ROM?

WRONG SECTION !
unrEVOked and kernels ? LOL

I am sure they will move it to the right section.
Yeah, you are right, I did mean ROM. Had a massive brain cramp, so I called it a root
Re. unrEVOked, hey, I had to start somewhere

Cyanogen..... soon
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I didn't have the best luck with AVA V10, but V9 has incredible battery life. Here is a link:
http://www.4shared.com/dir/kqCqyssL/Ava_Roms.html

Whichever ROM you download, you can open the zip (don't extract), go to system>apps and delete any apks you don't want it to install when you flash it. Of course, make sure you know what apks you are removing first so you don't get problems later and have to end up re-downloading/re-flashing your phone.

unrEVOked is not a ROM, nor a kernel, and has nothing to do with battery life. Other than the superuser app showing up, it should not affect anything at all. It's a rooting process, specifically intended to unlock your NAND (S-Off, visible in the bootloader).
Popular ROM options are Fresh, MIUI, CyanogenMod. Fresh has fully working WiMax. CM is close. Don't know about MIUI, but it's probably not packing working 4G. None of them have any of the Sprint apps by default.
You can bake your own Fresh ROM with whatever you want included. CM doesn't even include the Google Apps by default (you can add them easily), so it's even trimmer.
Once you are fully rooted, and familiar with the nandroid backup process (and Titanium Backup), you can switch between ROMs fairly easily and make your own decisions.
To get started, root and then flash Fresh. Actually, wait a few days (but don't accept the current OTA if you haven't already), and install Fresh once it's been updated. Because it's based on stock with Sense, you can probably flash without clearing your data (DO clear your caches) and get off to a quick start.

Yeah, I am still learning this rooting process. I have very little time available for playing around a bit and no way in hell am I going to use time of my devs in the office. Hence me doing it the lazy way - asking you which ROM is the best for my needs and then flashing and forgetting it.
BTW, thanks for the advice so far. Saving me a lot of time!

MYNs is popular or if you want a stock one, I suggest looking at the ReEngineered Stock ROM that aamikam made. He spent alot of time fixing up the apks so that they are smaller in size and speeds up the ROM.

i would just find a rom that you like and run with it. the rom itself shouldn't make THAT much difference. from what i have seen, its your kernel that really makes the difference in batter-life and performance. Most of the bloat-ware in the majority of these roms can be removed pretty easily.
Myn has some great stuff for ROMS. Ava V10 (if you have bad battery, try a different kernel)
Here are my 3 fav Kernels:
Hero's Laptop Kernel (all i have to say is WOW)
Net's 4.2 or 4.1
King's CFS

ROMs:
Sense: Calk's or Myn's or for a pure stock feel try ReEngineered 3.70.651.1.
AOSP: Cyanogen Mod (No Contest)
Kernels:
I always stick with Stock on all the ROMs I have tried.
Have fun flashing man.

Try Azael X its very fast very little no bloat and stable 4G plus battery life is great he will update to 3.70 soon he's working on it now Rick is very picky about letting his roms out with bugs so he tests and tests before release

groovyipo said:
Yeah, I am still learning this rooting process. I have very little time available for playing around a bit and no way in hell am I going to use time of my devs in the office. Hence me doing it the lazy way - asking you which ROM is the best for my needs and then flashing and forgetting it.
BTW, thanks for the advice so far. Saving me a lot of time!
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Simply put;
Myn Warm (Sense)
CM (non Sense)

ROM: Azrael X, myn warm, baked snacks
kernel: ziggy dec5, baked laptop, net 4.2
Battery life:
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Using Azrael X latest and ziggy dec5
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Where did you download your ziggy dec5 kernel?

groovyipo said:
Where did you download your ziggy dec5 kernel?
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Ziggy471.com
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Now I am just pondering what are the major advantages of switching out stock kernel on Azreal X v.2.1 to Ziggy?

Rom manger's poor selection for G2/HTC Vision

Why does rom manager only support two different roms for the g2 but has a much larger selection on other phones such as the droid or evo? I would like a little more selection than a kernel, nightlies for one rom, and one sense based rom to choose from. Anyone have some insight to why this is?
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I never use Rom Manager to flash any Roms, I personally like to flash new Roms from recovery and actually go thru the process of wiping and installing the Rom myself. As for your question of why it only supports 2 Roms, I'm really not sure why.
EDIT: If found this LINK that might explain why, it looks like the ROM Dev's need to go thru the process of getting there Roms on Rom Manager, and maybe some of them haven't or dont want to go thru the process.

Exactly what he said. Its up to the rom dev to put it in rom manager and work with koush.
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Is there more ROMs on the premium version of ROM Manager or does it just make it easier to update?

hungyellow said:
Is there more ROMs on the premium version of ROM Manager or does it just make it easier to update?
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Premium just gives you access to the nightlies, sadly ... start asking the devs to submit their ROMs
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I also manually flash my roms, and wipe caches and battery stats, but its just handy to be able to download it like a cm7 nightly and be notified about rom updates. Then from there I take over and flash it myself. But would like to see a variety up there that's all. I would be more inclined to try different roms I think. I've only had cm6.1.1 and about 75 different cm7 builds, between gridlocks build and when they became official nightlies.
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[q] **whats the best rom out today?**

Hey android fam,
ima keep this short and simple.
1. I rooted my htc evo
2. I want to know whats the best rom out there (2.3 with everything working 4g or close to it etc)
3. After i download the rom i want, whats the next step to install it the right way? (i already downloaded "titanium backup" what else do i need?)
thanks

A good starting place,
Try Cyanogenmod, MIUI, Myns Warm, and MikFroyo

I would add Salvage-Mod 1.2.1 to the list mentioned above, specifically with the Tiamat 3.3.7 kernel and LauncherPro. It flies on my device and everything works.
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thanamesjames said:
A good starting place,
Try Cyanogenmod, MIUI, Myns Warm, and MikFroyo
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If your looking for AOSP try Cyangenmod, Ultimate Droid,
Sense My favorite so far is probably Mikfroyo.....Second Myns warm...third Fresh....
Just flash all of them and just mess around to find out what you might like. a good starting point is to download Rom manager but don't use that program to flash, just use it to download, then boot into recovery and flash manually. Good luck...
If your really wanting to play around you can try flashing different kernels which I am still trying to figure out a good sense kernel to use for mikfroyo. Good luck

Thanks everyone
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Personally, I have been running Deck's 2.3.3 GB AOSP ROM. It's fast, stable, and everything works, including 4G. I use Tiamat's 3.3.8 SBC kernel and get great battery life as well. You can find his thread at PPC Geeks. He said when he releases the final version, he'll post it here at XDA.

Deck's GB is def my fav GB ROM. Everything works. The final version (1.0) is releasing today at 6pm est. The main thread is at PPC geeks, but Deck said he would start an official thread here once 1.0 launched.

"Best" -- in this case -- is subjective.

jsantos248 said:
Hey android fam,
ima keep this short and simple.
1. I rooted my htc evo
2. I want to know whats the best rom out there (2.3 with everything working 4g or close to it etc)
3. After i download the rom i want, whats the next step to install it the right way? (i already downloaded "titanium backup" what else do i need?)
thanks
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Congrats on rooting. Just remember that rooting isn't everything. It's just like getting an admin or superuser account on a Windows or Linux machine. It gives you the ability to modify system files that you normally can't do as the default user.
You need to make sure that your phone is NAND unlocked and you need to flash an alternate recovery. A recovery is kind of like a boot-disk built into your phone. You can boot into "recovery mode" and flash data to the phone. This is how you install a new ROM. The two big recoveries are Clockwork and AmonRa.
Basically you download a ROM in zip format, put it someplace on your SD card where you can find it, boot into recovery, do a backup (make an image you can restore from if things don't go well) and then format data, cache, dalvik, etc.
Once you have a clean slate, flash the ROM from the zip file on your SD card and wait for it to finish. Reboot and enjoy your new phone! It's like installing a fresh copy of the OS with various modifications.
There is a bit more to it that all that but that is the gist. Once you are familiar with the process it's easy. Before long, you'll be comfortable with reading about a new ROM, making a quick backup and flashing it to check it out. If it is good you keep it, if it sucks you restore your old backup. I go through phases where I like what I have and then the bug will bite me and I try like 2 or 3 ROMs in a week.

wmstwo002 said:
Personally, I have been running Deck's 2.3.3 GB AOSP ROM. It's fast, stable, and everything works, including 4G. I use Tiamat's 3.3.8 SBC kernel and get great battery life as well. You can find his thread at PPC Geeks. He said when he releases the final version, he'll post it here at XDA.
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Just my 5 cents, but you should get better battery life on 3.3.7, as in 3.3.8, the minimum voltage was raised to help those that flashed the kernel and natively got reboots.

Ryjabo said:
"Best" -- in this case -- is subjective.
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+10000000000000
FOR ME:
When I'm in an AOSP mood, it's CyanogenMod. It was the first one I tried and I'm too lazy to adjust to other AOSP roms LOL. I have tried other AOSP roms, but I like the features included in CM and the support he gives.
When I'm in a Sense mood, it's usually Mik roms (MikFroyo, MikZ, MikGinger, etc) because what he does to those roms is nothing short of amazing. Speed, stability, and everything just works. When Myn gets around to releasing his Gingerbread rom that's going to be my DD.

jsantos248 said:
Hey android fam,
ima keep this short and simple.
1. I rooted my htc evo
2. I want to know whats the best rom out there (2.3 with everything working 4g or close to it etc)
3. After i download the rom i want, whats the next step to install it the right way? (i already downloaded "titanium backup" what else do i need?)
thanks
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Well if you are looking for 2.3.3 with everything working including 4g and GPS I would recommend CyanogenMod. You battery life might be kinda crappy even with the Tiamat 3.3.8 kernel as compare to a 2.2 rom.

Im a fan of Mikz and Kings is you like sense. They both do amazing work and their custumization is top notch.

I'm running Myn's Warm TwoPointTwo (Sense ROM) with the Netarchy 4.3.1 cfs-havs-nosbc kernel and Launcher Pro Plus.
Lightning fast underclocked at 499 mHz awake and 128 mHz with screen off (using SetCPU). Battery life is shocking too with the Seidio 3500 extended battery. Unplugged at 7AM and heavy usage all day (phone calls, texting, email, web surfing, Pandora, etc) it's still around 45-50% at 11PM
Always searching for a better battery kernel though, lol
Jack

Well im on Kings Unleashed R-5 to.the the best rom right now, but im about to try a CM7 cuz people be telling me about the speed and stuff
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Sorry, but people claiming everything is working on CM7 for htc evo obviously don't use their cameras. Still shots are not taken at full 8mp at proper aspect ratio. There is also no 720p recording.
Have a look at Elite Series III.It's super fast and has everything working. The theme it comes with is amazing. Proper flash instructions are on that thread and there is nothing else you need to fux with after flashing.
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[Q] Help with Sense to ASOP ROM

I have searched the XDA site and the internet and I cannot find an answer. I am a newbie and I have been trying to find an answer for the last 3 days. Here is what I am trying to do:
I am looking to install a rooted Sense ROM on my Sprint HTC EVO. The phone is already rooted and I am running CM7. My question is, can I just flash a sense ROM coming from a AOSP ROM like CM7 or is there a different way I have to put a sense ROM on the phone?
Second part to my question: Do you reccomend a particular (Rooted)sense ROM?
Thanks in advance.

wesgermer said:
I have searched the XDA site and the internet and I cannot find an answer. I am a newbie and I have been trying to find an answer for the last 3 days. Here is what I am trying to do:
I am looking to install a rooted Sense ROM on my Sprint HTC EVO. The phone is already rooted and I am running CM7. My question is, can I just flash a sense ROM coming from a AOSP ROM like CM7 or is there a different way I have to put a sense ROM on the phone?
Second part to my question: Do you reccomend a particular (Rooted)sense ROM?
Thanks in advance.
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No different way..Just wipe data and cache. I'm using Eternal Prophecy and I like it...good battery life.

Yes. You can flash it just like any other rom Just put the zip on your sd card and go into recovery. Be sure to wipe everything. Even 2 or 3 times. I can't link it because im mobile but search for the vr superwipe. If coming from an aosp like you are you may have to apply the gps fix to get it working again. And as far as recommendations, I would go for Myn's twopointtwo or Koni's Elite III. If you want the look of stock without all the bloatware go for the Sprint lovers rom.
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You probably didn't find a straight answer because you don't need to do anything special to flash from an AOSP ROM to a Sense ROM. Make a nandroid backup, wipe everything, and flash away.
Now your question about which Sense ROM to flash, I'm sure there's plenty of threads on that. The most stable Sense ROMs are still Froyo (2.2) w/Sense 1.0. But there's plenty of Gingerbread w/Sense 2.0 or 3.0 alphas and betas. If you don't want to be a tester I wouldn't mess with them. Just go to the Devolopment forum and pick a ROM with the most replies and most recent revision. That's how I started. That way you know you have an active developer and userbase.
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