Rom manger's poor selection for G2/HTC Vision - G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Why does rom manager only support two different roms for the g2 but has a much larger selection on other phones such as the droid or evo? I would like a little more selection than a kernel, nightlies for one rom, and one sense based rom to choose from. Anyone have some insight to why this is?
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I never use Rom Manager to flash any Roms, I personally like to flash new Roms from recovery and actually go thru the process of wiping and installing the Rom myself. As for your question of why it only supports 2 Roms, I'm really not sure why.
EDIT: If found this LINK that might explain why, it looks like the ROM Dev's need to go thru the process of getting there Roms on Rom Manager, and maybe some of them haven't or dont want to go thru the process.

Exactly what he said. Its up to the rom dev to put it in rom manager and work with koush.
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Is there more ROMs on the premium version of ROM Manager or does it just make it easier to update?

hungyellow said:
Is there more ROMs on the premium version of ROM Manager or does it just make it easier to update?
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Premium just gives you access to the nightlies, sadly ... start asking the devs to submit their ROMs
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I also manually flash my roms, and wipe caches and battery stats, but its just handy to be able to download it like a cm7 nightly and be notified about rom updates. Then from there I take over and flash it myself. But would like to see a variety up there that's all. I would be more inclined to try different roms I think. I've only had cm6.1.1 and about 75 different cm7 builds, between gridlocks build and when they became official nightlies.
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[Q] Which root has least Sprint crap, most stable WiMAX, and best battery use??

So far I have tried unrEVOked and AVA-FROYO V10.
unrEVOked is little bit behind on latest kernels and is stuffed with Sprint garbage. It did have great battery life with 4G and WiFi enabled (12 hours for me).
AVA-FROYO V10 was OK, very little Sprint crap... but battery life on it was extremely unpredictable (from 4 hours to 12 with cell standby chewing up most).
Unfortunately the latest radio update messed it up and now I need to reflash everything, so might as well look at other roots.
Myn
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Do you mean ROM?
WRONG SECTION !
unrEVOked and kernels ? LOL
I am sure they will move it to the right section.
Yeah, you are right, I did mean ROM. Had a massive brain cramp, so I called it a root
Re. unrEVOked, hey, I had to start somewhere
Cyanogen..... soon
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I didn't have the best luck with AVA V10, but V9 has incredible battery life. Here is a link:
http://www.4shared.com/dir/kqCqyssL/Ava_Roms.html
Whichever ROM you download, you can open the zip (don't extract), go to system>apps and delete any apks you don't want it to install when you flash it. Of course, make sure you know what apks you are removing first so you don't get problems later and have to end up re-downloading/re-flashing your phone.
unrEVOked is not a ROM, nor a kernel, and has nothing to do with battery life. Other than the superuser app showing up, it should not affect anything at all. It's a rooting process, specifically intended to unlock your NAND (S-Off, visible in the bootloader).
Popular ROM options are Fresh, MIUI, CyanogenMod. Fresh has fully working WiMax. CM is close. Don't know about MIUI, but it's probably not packing working 4G. None of them have any of the Sprint apps by default.
You can bake your own Fresh ROM with whatever you want included. CM doesn't even include the Google Apps by default (you can add them easily), so it's even trimmer.
Once you are fully rooted, and familiar with the nandroid backup process (and Titanium Backup), you can switch between ROMs fairly easily and make your own decisions.
To get started, root and then flash Fresh. Actually, wait a few days (but don't accept the current OTA if you haven't already), and install Fresh once it's been updated. Because it's based on stock with Sense, you can probably flash without clearing your data (DO clear your caches) and get off to a quick start.
Yeah, I am still learning this rooting process. I have very little time available for playing around a bit and no way in hell am I going to use time of my devs in the office. Hence me doing it the lazy way - asking you which ROM is the best for my needs and then flashing and forgetting it.
BTW, thanks for the advice so far. Saving me a lot of time!
MYNs is popular or if you want a stock one, I suggest looking at the ReEngineered Stock ROM that aamikam made. He spent alot of time fixing up the apks so that they are smaller in size and speeds up the ROM.
i would just find a rom that you like and run with it. the rom itself shouldn't make THAT much difference. from what i have seen, its your kernel that really makes the difference in batter-life and performance. Most of the bloat-ware in the majority of these roms can be removed pretty easily.
Myn has some great stuff for ROMS. Ava V10 (if you have bad battery, try a different kernel)
Here are my 3 fav Kernels:
Hero's Laptop Kernel (all i have to say is WOW)
Net's 4.2 or 4.1
King's CFS
ROMs:
Sense: Calk's or Myn's or for a pure stock feel try ReEngineered 3.70.651.1.
AOSP: Cyanogen Mod (No Contest)
Kernels:
I always stick with Stock on all the ROMs I have tried.
Have fun flashing man.
Try Azael X its very fast very little no bloat and stable 4G plus battery life is great he will update to 3.70 soon he's working on it now Rick is very picky about letting his roms out with bugs so he tests and tests before release
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Yeah, I am still learning this rooting process. I have very little time available for playing around a bit and no way in hell am I going to use time of my devs in the office. Hence me doing it the lazy way - asking you which ROM is the best for my needs and then flashing and forgetting it.
BTW, thanks for the advice so far. Saving me a lot of time!
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Simply put;
Myn Warm (Sense)
CM (non Sense)
ROM: Azrael X, myn warm, baked snacks
kernel: ziggy dec5, baked laptop, net 4.2
Battery life:
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Using Azrael X latest and ziggy dec5
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Where did you download your ziggy dec5 kernel?
groovyipo said:
Where did you download your ziggy dec5 kernel?
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Ziggy471.com
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Now I am just pondering what are the major advantages of switching out stock kernel on Azreal X v.2.1 to Ziggy?

[Q] Help with Sense to ASOP ROM

I have searched the XDA site and the internet and I cannot find an answer. I am a newbie and I have been trying to find an answer for the last 3 days. Here is what I am trying to do:
I am looking to install a rooted Sense ROM on my Sprint HTC EVO. The phone is already rooted and I am running CM7. My question is, can I just flash a sense ROM coming from a AOSP ROM like CM7 or is there a different way I have to put a sense ROM on the phone?
Second part to my question: Do you reccomend a particular (Rooted)sense ROM?
Thanks in advance.
wesgermer said:
I have searched the XDA site and the internet and I cannot find an answer. I am a newbie and I have been trying to find an answer for the last 3 days. Here is what I am trying to do:
I am looking to install a rooted Sense ROM on my Sprint HTC EVO. The phone is already rooted and I am running CM7. My question is, can I just flash a sense ROM coming from a AOSP ROM like CM7 or is there a different way I have to put a sense ROM on the phone?
Second part to my question: Do you reccomend a particular (Rooted)sense ROM?
Thanks in advance.
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No different way..Just wipe data and cache. I'm using Eternal Prophecy and I like it...good battery life.
Yes. You can flash it just like any other rom Just put the zip on your sd card and go into recovery. Be sure to wipe everything. Even 2 or 3 times. I can't link it because im mobile but search for the vr superwipe. If coming from an aosp like you are you may have to apply the gps fix to get it working again. And as far as recommendations, I would go for Myn's twopointtwo or Koni's Elite III. If you want the look of stock without all the bloatware go for the Sprint lovers rom.
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You probably didn't find a straight answer because you don't need to do anything special to flash from an AOSP ROM to a Sense ROM. Make a nandroid backup, wipe everything, and flash away.
Now your question about which Sense ROM to flash, I'm sure there's plenty of threads on that. The most stable Sense ROMs are still Froyo (2.2) w/Sense 1.0. But there's plenty of Gingerbread w/Sense 2.0 or 3.0 alphas and betas. If you don't want to be a tester I wouldn't mess with them. Just go to the Devolopment forum and pick a ROM with the most replies and most recent revision. That's how I started. That way you know you have an active developer and userbase.
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[Q] changing roms

Hello,
I'm a newbie and I'm running android 2.2, HTC stock kernel WITH mikfroyo V4.4. and I wanna change Roms preferably Evo Zone which runs gingerbread 2.3.3. Do I have to change the kernel and the Rom or just the Rom. Please help. thanks
moe723 said:
Hello,
I'm a newbie and I'm running android 2.2, HTC stock kernel WITH mikfroyo V4.4. and I wanna change Roms preferably Evo Zone which runs gingerbread 2.3.3. Do I have to change the kernel and the Rom or just the Rom. Please help. thanks
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Each rom has its own kernel so dont fear you do not have to manually change anything yourself. Just update the rom.
Going from 2.2 to 2.3 I would do a clean wipe and not just cache and davlik. Do a search for Caulkins format all which would be very helpful when going from Froyo to Gingerbread. It will give you a clean slate to start with
Please note Caulkins format all is a zip file that wipes all data on your phone. Then you can install any rom you want and usually has less issues. Also you may have GPS issues when going from 2.2 to 2.3. Try and read up on this stuff prior to flashing so you know what your getting yourself into..
^^^^ He is right. Every ROM has a kernal already. Untill you learn more about switching them I wouldn do it yet, you could break or brick something.
Ok, well if I switch my Rom will the kernel change automatically?
Yes, a new kernel is bundled with the ROM
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but at this point I don't even think there are any custom kernels to install on 2.3 until the source code is released (if ever)...
moe723 said:
Ok, well if I switch my Rom will the kernel change automatically?
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Dont take this the wrong way but if you are unsure if a kernel comes with a rom I suggest you do a lot of reading up before flashing. Custom kernels are just that custom and flashed separately. Also certain kernels are for sense and different ones are for AOSP. Please try and understand that first before just flashing away. Asking questions may or may not be the way to go up in here.
I SUggest reading the stickies and threads done by people like toastch, caulkins xhausx and others similar to them. They have experience and a good track record as far as I am concerned
dajoip said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but at this point I don't even think there are any custom kernels to install on 2.3 until the source code is released (if ever)...
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You are correct. There are, however, kernels with a few tweaks if I remember correctly, fixing Wi-Fi and maybe another issue (4G I think, not sure)

Fastest AOSP ROM for Wildfire from your experience?

Hello everyone,
I would be interested to know which Wildfire AOSP ROM would you say is the fastest from your experience.
Different opinions are welcome.
Thanks
CM7~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
yeah CM7. Although this opinion is narrow minded as i have only ever used this ROM - its fast enough and has all the features i want, i am reluctant to move away from it as i am comfortable with my set up.
CM7 is best for me
I use Oxygen, I have used CM7 but i just find oxygen faster.
It doesn't have the same options, but it fits my needs.
Chillum said:
I use Oxygen, I have used CM7 but i just find oxygen faster.
It doesn't have the same options, but it fits my needs.
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i think i'll try some different ROMs next week. I dont trust my SD card at the moment, my nandroids keep failing to load with "error checking MD5SUMS"
Hopefully new card and updated CWM will sort this mess out
arkoze said:
i think i'll try some different ROMs next week. I dont trust my SD card at the moment, my nandroids keep failing to load with "error checking MD5SUMS"
Hopefully new card and updated CWM will sort this mess out
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Most nandroid backups are cwm specific. Eg a cwm 3.2.00 might not restore a backup from a different cwm version.
regards,slymobi
Chillum said:
I use Oxygen, I have used CM7 but i just find oxygen faster.
It doesn't have the same options, but it fits my needs.
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Are you using the Oxygen TEST version from here or some other Oxygen derived ROM?
I'm using an Oxygen derived ROM on my Desire (the Wildfire is my girlfriend's) and I have to say it is noticeably faster than CM7.
To my CM7, but with all the patches around here
Well I'm going against the grain now as I've tested just about every Rom going and after many months of staying away from HTC sense I find rempuzzle lite version to be equally as fast and a heck of a lot more stable than cm7 or oxygen or any of its rip offs. Also with the knowledge I've gained from modding and customizing cm7 to my liking I can make it equally as beautiful.
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One thing that's keeping me away from HTC Sense is the "Notification power widget". I just can't live without it anymore
nejc121 said:
One thing that's keeping me away from HTC Sense is the "Notification power widget". I just can't live without it anymore
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You can use Staus Bar Settings which can overcome the issue and it is available free in the Market..
I tried every single rom and tested them at least 2 weeks before flashing something new.
First of all; Wildfire is a slow device. You got to live with it.
Second of all; All roms are slow because wildfire is slow. You need to find the most stable rom. Which is, either CM7 or Rempuzzle. Oxygen is pretty stable as well.
ovimunt said:
Are you using the Oxygen TEST version from here or some other Oxygen derived ROM?
I'm using an Oxygen derived ROM on my Desire (the Wildfire is my girlfriend's) and I have to say it is noticeably faster than CM7.
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I'm using the test one yes, or were.. just bought a sensation xe and my brother have the wildfire now, still running oxygen test version (I choose it because it were the latest version)
I used it for months without many problems, ofc there will be some problems sometimes, it is custom but overall very reliable from what I experianced
base ROM from HTC
ironwit said:
base ROM from HTC
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really?
ironwit said:
base ROM from HTC
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This was meant to be a joke, right?...
slymobi said:
Most nandroid backups are cwm specific. Eg a cwm 3.2.00 might not restore a backup from a different cwm version.
regards,slymobi
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off topic but 37.41mbs? thats mental!
anyway, I hadnt changed my cmw between nandroids. only found out how to change it when i updated my radios last week.
recently i've been getting loads of FC's and jumping launchers and weird stuff happening on my CM7. I've been happy with it since december now but its starting to bug me. I need a more stable ROM thats going to run smoothly.
As Scratch said above, I'm sure with my knowledge of modding and buggering things up and then fixing them, i can find a more stable rom and get it how i like it.
After trying various rom's over the last couple of months, including aosp and sense based rom's, I've settled on oxygen rom as my favorite.
For me, both the asop and sense rom's would load quickly and work well. But i prefer the asop based rom's for their look /style.
arkoze said:
off topic but 37.41mbs? thats mental!
anyway, I hadnt changed my cmw between nandroids. only found out how to change it when i updated my radios last week.
recently i've been getting loads of FC's and jumping launchers and weird stuff happening on my CM7. I've been happy with it since december now but its starting to bug me. I need a more stable ROM thats going to run smoothly.
As Scratch said above, I'm sure with my knowledge of modding and buggering things up and then fixing them, i can find a more stable rom and get it how i like it.
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Lol. I have a very comfortable internet speed.
I took scratches comments into account and decided to try rempuzzle too after being back on jokerdroid for a while.
And I am impressed too with this rom after removing and editing to my own preferences. But I have been experiencing some annoying cwm restore issues after backup.keep getting bootloops but I think It may have had something to do with previous custom mtds and/or old dta2sd script flash. Although jkd didn't present these issues. Anyway flashed fresh cwm 5.0.2.7 jrodd version and updated to dta2sd beta 3 and started from scratch (no pun) with rempuzzle again so gotta find time to mess with framework then report back.
Both roms I've mentioned are very good but I think I might end up reverting back to cm7 eventually. Lol I get bored very quick.
P.s off topic but is there any way to hide/show status bar with 1 click or swipe method etc etc for sense!!!
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[Q] Choosing a ROM/Radio

Hi,
I own a Bell Desire Z (Canada). I'm new to rooting and I've been checking out this forums for a few days. I'm wanting to root my phone shortly and I'm wondering which ROM I should use.
My motivations for changing my ROM is mostly because I :
a) Can't stand the HTC skin anymore because it's waaaay too unresponsive
b) I want to get a more optimized OS
c) I want to increase my phone and mobile internet signals, if possible
I've came to the conclusion that EXT4 is the best recovery but I'm still confused about ROMs for Desire Z. How can I compare ROMs against each other ? For example, why is there so many different Andromadus ROMs? I read minicry was good, but I see the tests ones (JB if I'm not mistaken) and there's also Audacity, etc.
I don't want to lose features (GPS, Camera, Bluetooth). The cam is a little less important but I'd still rather keep it.
I'm also having a hard time understanding the radios "roms" (is it a rom too? I'd guess so). Is it a good idea to change it. If yes, what's the benefits, where can I find them for the Desire Z, are they the same for the G2, how can I know which are compatible with my carrier, etc. Is there any thread for up to date Desire Z radios?
Thanks a lot.
4ext is, in my opinion, the best recovery for our device; as for ROMs, it's best to just try them out for yourself. Cyanogenmod is the most one of the most widely used ROMs for a reason, it's solid and heavily supported however, there are many based off of CM that offer even better speed at the expense of eye candy.
As for radios (which aren't ROMs but basically device drivers), there is a thread that is stickied in the dev forum with all available radios. Updating your radio can offer better reception and better battery life but, it depends on your carrier and location as to which is best.
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Since people on XDA are [often] tragically uninformed, I'll give you the scoop on ICS/JB ROMs specifically. I apologize in advance for being uninformed myself about the HTC Sense-based ROMs available. I gave up on Sense a long time ago
Since you seem a bit keen to know more about AOSP based ROMS, the two types of AOSP based ROMs available for our device are AOKP and CM9. Andromadus Audacity and the ROM titled "CyanogenMod 9 RC2" (currently) are both based as much on CM9 as possible. They use as many of the CM9 branches as possible filling in the missing pieces where necessary. Those missing pieces are device specific branches that CyanogenMod currently does not provide for our device. The ROM titled CM9 RC2 by jerl92 is as much unofficial CM9 as Andromadus Audacity. The only difference is that jerl92 named his ROM "CyanogenMod", and as such people are under the impression it's more CM9 than Andromadus Audacity, when that's simply not the case. Both ROMs use the Andromadus kernel by fyodor (as a base), as does the AOKP ROM by adamz667. That said, the Andromadus ROMs, jerl92's CM9 ROM and AOKP are the only ROMs for our device based on compiled Android source code.
As for the other Andromadus ROMs, the Test Builds are alpha Jelly Bean builds based on CM10 primarily put together by Flinny and the rest of the Andromadus dev team (though at this point mostly darkspadez, fyodor, Flemmard -- I've done very little myself w/ JB so far).
Andromadus Mimicry is Andromadus Audacity, which means it's CyanogenMod 9. The difference is I've branched off half a dozen branches and have tried to add features specific to our device as well as community requests on XDA/IRC. Mimicry will move to CM10/JB when it's matured enough to provide a ROM experience similar to what we've achieved with CM9/ICS.
As for radios, search XDA for the .19 radio (as it's typically called). Look up EdKeys' thread and flash the radio/rcdata package for .19 and be done with it. You only have to flash it once and the .19 radio works great on Bell/Telus/Rogers' networks.
Thanks a lot for clarifying all this, I wasn't aware of the how the branching worked for specific devices.
I get it you are the developer of the Mimicry branch and that's what I'll go with.
I still haven't got the time to root my phone but reading further I realized in the XDA wiki that the Clockwork Recovery was flash using a gfree command and passing an img file as a parameter. However, looking at 4ext recovery, I could only find a package installer (apk). How do should I flash the 4ext recovery then?
I was also wondering if there's any guide on how to install Mimicry? I've downloaded the 2 files (the actual image and gapps). I have absolutely no idea what to do with those files.
Thanks a lot!
You might have to use CWM during the root process but, after that you can download 4ext Installer and flash 4ext. As far as installing a ROM, you'd do that via recovery by selecting "install from zip file" (or whatever similar option is in the recovery you're using)
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Hello, I will put here a few of my thoughts regarding your issue.
I am using clockworkmod recovery all the time and did not have any issues flashing/backup/restoring etc on my Desire Z, when you root you firstly end up using clockwork mod recovery, so you can as well stick to it - it does all you need. It text by text interface and it's to me - easy to use and clear. Once you have a rooted phone and you are able to boot into cwm recovery, you put a ZIP with your ROM on your SD, as well as your google apps for ICS, you navigate into clockworkmod's menu, press "install zip from SD card", find the ROM ZIP, and install. You do the same with gapps zip before you reboot. Simple as that.
Now for the ROMs. I personally am in favor of Andromadus Mimicry 1.4 ROM. It's the fastest, most complete (every device feature like camera/gps/etc works) Ice Cream Sandwich ROM out there, comes with a pre-installed memory optimizer script, so it's really really smooth and fast, it comes with a nice graphical and feature rich installer (similar to PC installers to be honest), you can manually chose which feature to install during that, and also is equipped with the .19 radio (which you also can chose upon installation), which boosted my GPS signal and my GSM signal by far. Seriously, this is to me the best ICS ROM out there for our Desire Z. It looks and feels great.
Ponury666 said:
Hello, I will put here a few of my thoughts regarding your issue.
I am using clockworkmod recovery all the time and did not have any issues flashing/backup/restoring etc on my Desire Z, when you root you firstly end up using clockwork mod recovery, so you can as well stick to it - it does all you need. It text by text interface and it's to me - easy to use and clear. Once you have a rooted phone and you are able to boot into cwm recovery, you put a ZIP with your ROM on your SD, as well as your google apps for ICS, you navigate into clockworkmod's menu, press "install zip from SD card", find the ROM ZIP, and install. You do the same with gapps zip before you reboot. Simple as that.
Now for the ROMs. I personally am in favor of Andromadus Mimicry 1.4 ROM. It's the fastest, most complete (every device feature like camera/gps/etc works) Ice Cream Sandwich ROM out there, comes with a pre-installed memory optimizer script, so it's really really smooth and fast, it comes with a nice graphical and feature rich installer (similar to PC installers to be honest), you can manually chose which feature to install during that, and also is equipped with the .19 radio (which you also can chose upon installation), which boosted my GPS signal and my GSM signal by far. Seriously, this is to me the best ICS ROM out there for our Desire Z. It looks and feels great.
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Are you stuck on the idea of using an ICS or JB ROM? I have tried Mimicry 1.4.0 and the JB test builds, as well as EliteMod ICS, but have settled for now on the the EliteMod CM7, and find it very good...fast, stable, all apps in working order, low battery usage. No, the available launchers are not quite up to Apex...but for me it's not about aesthetics, just functionality. There's a thread about it in the Android development section:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1246682
Flashing the .19 radio is easy and very good. It _is_ a separate step from ROM flashing...the files are downloadable from the EdKeys thread mentioned above...start reading here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=970809
4EXT recovery is found here:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ext.recovery.control
good luck,
p-d

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