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I was wondering if anyone has heard anything on this yet because I haven't...
I remember hearing that you will have the option of charging a card to purchase applications or charging them to your carriers bill. Has anyone heard if you will be able to use MS Points to purchase applications? I would like to assume that with the tight intergration between Xbox Live and Zune Marketplace, that this would be an option.
Thanks if anyone knows yet.
There has been a lot said on the topic. Yes, you can add a credit card so it'll be charged. Yes, carrier billing will also be available as an option if your carrier chooses to provide it. Marketplace will use money, not points.
vangrieg said:
There has been a lot said on the topic. Yes, you can add a credit card so it'll be charged. Yes, carrier billing will also be available as an option if your carrier chooses to provide it. Marketplace will use money, not points.
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+1, on the ZuneInsider podcast, they said they were working to get rid of the MS Points. (Can't recall which podcast was that, sorry)
Surprised they never mention MS Points. I thought they would use them exclusively like Zune and XBox Live Marketplace. Good that they're phasing them out except they give you the option of paying with cash by purchasing point cards. This would only be useful amongst XBox users without credit cards though. The main problem with them is you always end up with spare change that you can't use.
http://www.wmexperts.com/more-info-wp7-marketplace-gaming-and-programming
Looks like my question was answered.
FTA:
For buying software, Windows Phone Marketplace will be in dollars; Xbox Marketplace will be Points ("funny money")
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Road sms (free samsung app from app store), is being charged for in android market by "rayman50".
http://www.appbrain.com/app/road-sms/kr.touchsoft.samsung.roadSms
I hate when people do **** like that, charge for apps that are meant to be free. I would like to ask him to stop distributing it, but I can't see any contact details.
Here's an idea: The app was created by rayman50, who reached an agreement with Samsung that allowed them to distribute the app for SGS. He can still sell it if he wants to.
Just like Asphalt 5 - created and sold by Gameloft, but Samsung give it for free to SGS users
Rawat said:
Here's an idea: The app was created by rayman50, who reached an agreement with Samsung that allowed them to distribute the app for SGS. He can still sell it if he wants to.
Just like Asphalt 5 - created and sold by Gameloft, but Samsung give it for free to SGS users
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If he built it let him sell it.
Rawat said:
Here's an idea: The app was created by rayman50, who reached an agreement with Samsung that allowed them to distribute the app for SGS. He can still sell it if he wants to.
Just like Asphalt 5 - created and sold by Gameloft, but Samsung give it for free to SGS users
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Um, thats a possibility sure, and if true I'd completely apologize.
However, it seems pretty unlikely when you look at all the other apps he's distributing on the market, some of which I am 100% sure are not developed by him.
Gallery3D (made by cooliris iirc)
LG Home (LG)
LG Memo Widget (LG)
LG Calendar (LG)
Call Mum (HTC)
He hasn't even changed the internal name of the package kr.touchsoft.samsung.roadSms. If you consider asphalt, the package has "gameloft" the author in it. This has "touchsoft" in it so I'm inclined to believe it's developed by touchsoft http://www.touchsoft.com.au/TouchSoft/Home.html
So most of the apps he distributes are just dumped from various devices, and he wouldn't have permission to distribute. I think that's pretty shady, but doesn't really bother me as long as they're free (as they're meant to be, and can be acquired on xda/other sites anyway).
But when you charge for a free app made by someone else, that is immoral and against the spirit of the android community
Imagine if you paid for the app, and then realized that you weren't even paying the real author, and that it is freely distributed (and legally) elsewhere.
EDIT: I have emailed him to peacefully ask him to stop charging. I'm not trying to be anal here, I just hate to see this kind of thing happening.
Hmm.. If he is doing something dodgy then I suggest you send a complaint to Google then Samsung. They have lawyers on leshes ready for blood
No I wouldn't go that far, it's not my problem really, I just don't want people in the community to get scammed. So I've asked him to do stop charging in the email.
oswade said:
No I wouldn't go that far, it's not my problem really, I just don't want people in the community to get scammed. So I've asked him to do stop charging in the email.
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If he's scamming people then he has no morals and wont care for your email...
He is a cheat. Just report him. After n number of reports, they will ban the guy.
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what i wanna know is he actaully getting paid $1.23 for every one of them sold? it says there are 100-500 downloads... so he made at least $123 doing this???!!!
If so, where do i sign up!
Well it says he originally released it to the market for free, so how many of those downloads are paid i don't know... But it's likely some of them were eh..
If that's the case, flag it in the market. I just did.
Rawat said:
If that's the case, flag it in the market. I just did.
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I did too. Explained that it was available from Samsung for free.
Fresh off the press from Tech-Ed 2011 Au.
Join the group and tick marketplace access request :-D
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Not fair, I live in the US
Ah yeah, well you could always try I guess. It is definitely open to any Aussie developer anyway.
snickler said:
Not fair, I live in the US
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Then you're the last one to complain. You don't have to fake a live ID to get basic functionality. Also, bibg isn't totally useless for you.
So I just did this and now have an app hub account!
And almost immediately I want to just give up after seeing all the rubbish I have to go through in order to get paid for apps. A long, complicated process involving my passport, snail mailing forms to some US tax department...
I can't believe how complicated this is. I'm really glad I never decided to pay the money for one of these damn accounts.
Wheezle said:
So I just did this and now have an app hub account!
And almost immediately I want to just give up after seeing all the rubbish I have to go through in order to get paid for apps. A long, complicated process involving my passport, snail mailing forms to some US tax department...
I can't believe how complicated this is. I'm really glad I never decided to pay the money for one of these damn accounts.
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I never knew how much havoc international developers had to go through in order to get an app hub account. Microsoft needs to work on that!
snickler said:
I never knew how much havoc international developers had to go through in order to get an app hub account. Microsoft needs to work on that!
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Getting the account itself is pretty straightforward. It's ensuring you can get paid without having 30% of what you make from apps disappear that's is hard.
Apple and Google pay from the local office. I fail to see why MS can't do the same.
(They could, but as usual MS doesn't care about people outside the USA).
Wheezle said:
(They could, but as usual MS doesn't care about people outside the USA).
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This could very well be the eventual downfall for them. Only time will tell. Well that and what the competition offers users and developers.
The apphub registration is still limited to few countries, however there is a new portal www.yallaapps.com where you can submit your app and it will be submitted to marketplace
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I've recently sideloaded kinectimals the sims 3 and PES2011. As i played those games i earned arcievements but only on DFT ROM 7720 v2.
Did somebody else had with these games Xbox live arcivements ?
You can look at my xbl account: joseastrada999
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tessut
Are you sure? this is great!))
Stop piracy!!!!
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nanoware said:
Stop piracy!!!!
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why are you saying that ?
Zloy Pryanik said:
tessut
Are you sure? this is great!))
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try it out but do not post any xap's here in the forum !
tessut said:
why are you saying that ?
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Sideloading a game sounds like the game is being pirated. There is no supported method to buy a game then sideload it in the WP7 marketplace.
The only way that this is possably legal is if the OP paid for the game, then sideloaded it but, even then it's questionable.
As I am wondering how this works, it's stil a questionable in a legal aspect, so I will not continue the discussion.
Personally, this promotes piracy (with the DFT rom you can still get achivements off downloaded Xbox live games) and this thread should be closed...if not deleted.
DavidinCT said:
Sideloading a game sounds like the game is being pirated. There is no supported method to buy a game then sideload it in the WP7 marketplace.
The only way that this is possably legal is if the OP paid for the game, then sideloaded it but, even then it's questionable.
As I am wondering how this works, it's stil a questionable in a legal aspect, so I will not continue the discussion.
Personally, this promotes piracy (with the DFT rom you can still get achivements off downloaded Xbox live games) and this thread should be closed...if not deleted.
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+1. Honestly, I can't comprehend why people - running a round with a device worth a couple of a hundred dollars - refuse to pay 2 or 3 dollars for a game or app. That's just weak.
dkp1977 said:
+1. Honestly, I can't comprehend why people - running a round with a device worth a couple of a hundred dollars - refuse to pay 2 or 3 dollars for a game or app. That's just weak.
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ok i agree with you but if you paid a game and on the other account you did'nt buy it idont think that you will buy a game twice ?
I use DFT V1, installed DFT V2 and now i am using ansar mango rom as for now but i need more time i like more ansar mango roms since in the about and on screens looks more like the original rom
In before the close. yea sounds like those games were pirated to me. while i do agree with buying games i do not like to buy apps because something better will always come along AND it might get baked into future updates.
JustinTV773 said:
In before the close. yea sounds like those games were pirated to me. while i do agree with buying games i do not like to buy apps because something better will always come along AND it might get baked into future updates.
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And that makes it okay? Gtfoh, these developers bust their asses to deliver great products to us, and some of you guys believe the world should be free. It must be nice envisioning a communist society, some of you even live in one. But, considering I'm not a communist or socialist, I think the arguments to support piracy on this forum are ridiculous. I really hope those new encryption updates by Microsoft stop this BS and ban anybody's gamertag who used a stolen game.
FiyaFleye said:
And that makes it okay? Gtfoh, these developers bust their asses to deliver great products to us, and some of you guys believe the world should be free. It must be nice envisioning a communist society, some of you even live in one. But, considering I'm not a communist or socialist, I think the arguments to support piracy on this forum are ridiculous. I really hope those new encryption updates by Microsoft stop this BS and ban anybody's gamertag who used a stolen game.
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no it's not ok but if microsoft would add a better payment system there were more app/game buyers on the Windows Phone Marketplace or how do you think ?
the games played on mango ssonic , bunker buster, armor voley , attack from the dead, alpha strike .....
tessut said:
no it's not ok but if microsoft would add a better payment system there were more app/game buyers on the Windows Phone Marketplace or how do you think ?
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In fact, the payment system records what games you have bought all through. Once you would like to install it again (on same Live account), they will ask you if you would like to installed it again now as you have already paid for that.
I haven't met the double payment for the same app so far.
Even pressing "buy" still doesn't mean you have already bought and paid, instead they will ask you if you really want to pay as there is no refund for it. You may have a try.
tessut said:
no it's not ok but if microsoft would add a better payment system there were more app/game buyers on the Windows Phone Marketplace or how do you think ?
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Payment system works just fine. I've actually uninstalled and installed many apps that I've paid for. Nothing makes stealing okay.
FiyaFleye said:
Payment system works just fine. I've actually uninstalled and installed many apps that I've paid for. Nothing makes stealing okay.
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not everybody have a creditcard i would apriciate it if microsoft would add payment with microsoft points
tessut said:
not everybody have a creditcard i would apriciate it if microsoft would add payment with microsoft points
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That still is not an excuse to pirate. Most banks offer pre-paid creditcard options for this type of stuff.
Now days if you open any checking account (at least in the US) you expect to get a debit card with a Visa/Mastercard logo on it.
As I 100% agree with you, everyone thought, Xbox live=Xbox points before WP7 came out. I would like the option myself but, it should not make you pirate.
If you can afford the collection of phones that you have had or have, I am sure you can afford a $2-5 game or app here and there. If you can not, sell your smart phone and go buy a fip phone. You should not be here in the first place.
tessut said:
not everybody have a creditcard i would apriciate it if microsoft would add payment with microsoft points
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Look up Virtual/Disposable credit cards, they can be very useful even if you do have a credit card because you can get them for one time uses.
xHausx said:
Look up Virtual/Disposable credit cards, they can be very useful even if you do have a credit card because you can get them for one time uses.
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i just bought a t-mobile Card so i can Pay With my sim Card
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I upgraded my Titanium Backup to the Pro version paying the $5.95 (actually $1.00 + CHF 5.25). it was instantly upgraded, and I got the email (+smses from my bank). Yesterday on its own it has reverted back to the donate version.Also,if I remember correctly there was a second Titanium app which is also now missing. I am on Android 2.3.3 on my Dinc 2.
I download the pro version from 4share.apk
Finally fixed. Titanium staff (Joel) were most helpful. Finally, removed and reinstalled Titanium Backup and the problem was fixed. Reinstalling the Key file did not help. Apparently, if you are using the same Google account then i. you can reload the key and ii.you can run it on multiple phones. They key is personal to you.
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I download the pro version from 4share.apk
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Dude, you may wanna ditch this. This is illegal file sharing and is not tolerated here. This would be considered promoting warez which will get you an infraction.
For people having trouble, I used PayPal from the site, and put the key text file on the root of my sd card and it reads as the pro version
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tylerlawhon said:
Dude, you may wanna ditch this. This is illegal file sharing and is not tolerated here. This would be considered promoting warez which will get you an infraction.
For people having trouble, I used PayPal from the site, and put the key text file on the root of my sd card and it reads as the pro version
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Im not promoting nobody,and i was trying to help him,and i din't know that was illegal here.have a nice day....
android-incredible said:
Im not promoting nobody,and i was trying to help him,and i din't know that was illegal here.have a nice day....
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Yeah sorry. It's taking a paid app and making it free, which is almost like stealing. It's pirating. Not getting onto you, just letting you know anywhere you download something "pro" for free, you shouldn't share it.
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I seldom use those forbidden sites to acquire fully functioning software products only to make sure that it WILL perform properly on my aged PC.
If it works and I like it, I actually purchase the software and re install the proper version on my PC.
If it does not work or I don't care for it I remove it.
Piracy for the sole purpose of trying to get something for free that is offered for usually a modest amount, is wrong plain and simple.
It IS nice of you to offer help to people that are stuck trying to make use of the software that they DID pay for.
Usually there is a Read Me file within the file or on the site stating that if you like the product, then you should pay for it.
And now that you know, If you like the product and it works as it should, you should either pay for it or uninstall it.
The site you quoted probably doesn't pay ANY add revenue to the developer of the product.
I know it was a hassle to get my purchase validated also, but I kept at it and feel good about having done this.
The Ability to Respond = Responsibility
Please show some self respect and pay what you owe...
Are you the same guy from the DIncI thread?
I tell you all, the disrespect of the upcoming generation of yuppie bread stock is appalling.
GIMI GIMI GIMI....
I delivered newspapers for 4 years straight and I got 0 complaints 0 late bill payments.
At age 7 my biological father found a whore to move in to my moms house with my other 4 brothers and sisters.
Needless to say he and his was given the BOOT.
When I paid cash for my Apple Crate (Bicycle) I felt good that I paid for what I got.
When the American hostages were held in Libya, I jumped at the chance to honorably serve my country.
Then I come back to find that a lot of people want a free ride, throw trash out on the open ground in parking lots and on the roadway.
This is the America I devoted my life to so punks can freely desecrate mother earth and laugh about it..
Then the Bush Wack gives away the 3 Trillion surplus to the "Hardest Working Americans", pulls that False Flag 911 bull**** so Cha Hanis could "not think twice " about having an airliner shot out of the sky.
The is NO profit in peace and security/surveillance companies are rollin in contracts.
Now those BushWacked era tax cuts are considered a free ride for the filthiest richest bastards in this and other countries.
They are going to ride that train even after if runs out of track.
Then when they crash and burn they will whine about why true Americans did NOT impeach his ornrie ass for knowingly leading this and other countries into a war for the sole purpose of getting back at the man who insulted his daddy.
Oh, and to keep MR Cha Hanis in those open contracts.
WAKE UP KIDDIES It's a whole new world happenin.
SOPA is just another player in the game..
Oh, and a Happy New Year to ALL. PEACE ON EARTH. LOVE ONE ANOTHER.
And somebody please get that Mr Akmidinajad a lab coat that actually fits.
For a leader of a country, you think he would have a custom fitted lab coat...
END RANT....
Peace, and happy new year.....
That was probably one of the most heart-felt and incisive OT posts I have ever read.
Much thanks to you for your efforts and sacrifices.
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That was probably one of the most heart-felt and incisive OT posts I have ever read.
Much thanks to you for your efforts and sacrifices.
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+1 thank you.
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The problem was finally fixed by uninstalling and reinstalling the Titanium Backup App itself.