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[Q] Soooooo... what are the chances of wm7 coming to our android devices?

The final devices just got announced, devs will probably take a swing at it, AND ive seen some wm7 dumps going around the forum. sooooo... what do you all think? i'd love to have a play with this, just like every other ZOMG-NEW-UI-I-GOTS-TO-HAVE! guy here haha
is there already some work going on?

Zero chance, It would be illegal to do so as the license is sold with the device,

Just for fun?
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I don't want it on my phone... WP7 has the ugliest UI I've ever seen. Some animations and transitions looks cool but other than that it just makes wanna throw up!

im more into it for the social interaction, the way facebook integrates and everything, it looked pretty good in all the demos..

rosebud said:
Zero chance, It would be illegal to do so as the license is sold with the device,
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in that case
let it be done
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aaaaarrggh
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Yeah. Stupid laws... It's no different than someone stealing your car.
I suppose if someone wanted to, they could create a customized launcher and a bunch of other apps that looked like wm7, but I fail to see the point.
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oursoul said:
in that case
let it be done
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please read the forum rules on warez, piracy an also your language ......

who cares about wm7?
m$ is afraid about android...
the only thing that i don't understand is why a wm phone and an android phone have the same prices with similar hardware...
when you buy the phone you pay the licence too... android phones must cost less then a wm phone...
or not?

Icchan said:
when you buy the phone you pay the licence too... android phones must cost less then a wm phone...
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First of all, I believe the phone manufacturers still pay a fee to Google for the GApps.
Secondly, it's all about profit margins - Android is attractive to companies like HTC because they likely make more money per unit than they would if they use WP7.
Regards,
Dave

[Q] Getting the .apk for an app from the web..

If a website has an apk file for an app that normally costs money, do I still get charged if I download it from the web through Astro?
So, if I find Root Explorer ($3.87 in market) can I download the app from the web to my phone and not be charged?

SethAC said:
If a website has an apk file for an app that normally costs money, do I still get charged if I download it from the web through Astro?
So, if I find Root Explorer ($3.87 in market) can I download the app from the web to my phone and not be charged?
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What would the point of piracy be if you still got charged? Yeah, you can do that, or you can just purchase the app for a mere $3. Show some support to the guy who created it. The more you pirate, the less people want to produce paid content, and all of us suffer for it.

Aside from being frowned upon, there are also other risks involved....
http://blog.mylookout.com/2010/12/geinimi_trojan/

deezy111 said:
Aside from being frowned upon, there are also other risks involved....
http://blog.mylookout.com/2010/12/geinimi_trojan/
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The beautiful thing is that Geinimi only targets those that truly deserve to have their phone infected.
Seriously, if you're so cheap that you have to steal a $3 app, then you probably don't need to be shelling out the dough every month for a smartphone with data.
As already mentioned, pirating apps alienates devs and hurts the community as a whole. Additionally, the pirated apk can either be packaged with malware or request unnecessary permissions. And, of course, there is the fact that pirated apps aren't updatable- if an updated version is released that contains security enhancements or new features, the thief is stuck with the older version.
In summary... don't be a douche. Just pay the measly three bucks for the app if you want it, or use a free alternative from the market such as Astro or ES File Explorer.

najaboy said:
The beautiful thing is that Geinimi only targets those that truly deserve to have their phone infected.
Seriously, if you're so cheap that you have to steal a $3 app, then you probably don't need to be shelling out the dough every month for a smartphone with data.
As already mentioned, pirating apps alienates devs and hurts the community as a whole. Additionally, the pirated apk can either be packaged with malware or request unnecessary permissions. And, of course, there is the fact that pirated apps aren't updatable- if an updated version is released that contains security enhancements or new features, the thief is stuck with the older version.
In summary... don't be a douche. Just pay the measly three bucks for the app if you want it, or use a free alternative from the market such as Astro or ES File Explorer.
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+1
use the free versions if you have a problem paying a couple bucks for an app. Most of these guys do work for us on their own time with no monetary benefit. Support the guys that put out great products

najaboy said:
Seriously, if you're so cheap that you have to steal a $3 app, then you probably don't need to be shelling out the dough every month for a smartphone with data.
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End of story, and if you do pirate $3 apps, I hope you do get that virus. Then you can come back on here asking how to "pirate" a new phone...

I just wanted to know how that worked (whether or not it shows up in the market or if you can update it), like I want to know how a lot of things work, so you shouldn't assume automatically that I, myself, want to use the pirated apps.
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If you pirate it doesn't show up. Pirating isn't the worst thing ever but buying helps support the app and the community. Also a virus has popped up and others will follow suit so its becoming unsafe. If your gonna download online apps at least use an anti virus. I suggest look out. If you like apps please pay for them.
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It is completely understandable to want to try an app, especially with the 15 minute return window. If you decide the app is worth it, purchase it from the market.

this is stealing so i would not talk about this here

+99999999 on this. Also it's fine to tell people the risks of things no one told him how to do it only that's its probably a bad idea.
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It is completely understandable to want to try an app, especially with the 15 minute return window. If you decide the app is worth it, purchase it from the market.
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Suport the ones who support you. Put yourself in there shoes would you want someone to find a way to get your app for free if it is a paid app?

Get your marketplace apphub free here

Fresh off the press from Tech-Ed 2011 Au.
Join the group and tick marketplace access request :-D
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Not fair, I live in the US

Ah yeah, well you could always try I guess. It is definitely open to any Aussie developer anyway.

snickler said:
Not fair, I live in the US
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Then you're the last one to complain. You don't have to fake a live ID to get basic functionality. Also, bibg isn't totally useless for you.

So I just did this and now have an app hub account!
And almost immediately I want to just give up after seeing all the rubbish I have to go through in order to get paid for apps. A long, complicated process involving my passport, snail mailing forms to some US tax department...
I can't believe how complicated this is. I'm really glad I never decided to pay the money for one of these damn accounts.

Wheezle said:
So I just did this and now have an app hub account!
And almost immediately I want to just give up after seeing all the rubbish I have to go through in order to get paid for apps. A long, complicated process involving my passport, snail mailing forms to some US tax department...
I can't believe how complicated this is. I'm really glad I never decided to pay the money for one of these damn accounts.
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I never knew how much havoc international developers had to go through in order to get an app hub account. Microsoft needs to work on that!

snickler said:
I never knew how much havoc international developers had to go through in order to get an app hub account. Microsoft needs to work on that!
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Getting the account itself is pretty straightforward. It's ensuring you can get paid without having 30% of what you make from apps disappear that's is hard.
Apple and Google pay from the local office. I fail to see why MS can't do the same.
(They could, but as usual MS doesn't care about people outside the USA).

Wheezle said:
(They could, but as usual MS doesn't care about people outside the USA).
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This could very well be the eventual downfall for them. Only time will tell. Well that and what the competition offers users and developers.

The apphub registration is still limited to few countries, however there is a new portal www.yallaapps.com where you can submit your app and it will be submitted to marketplace
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the coolest thing on DFT ROM7720 v2

I've recently sideloaded kinectimals the sims 3 and PES2011. As i played those games i earned arcievements but only on DFT ROM 7720 v2.
Did somebody else had with these games Xbox live arcivements ?
You can look at my xbl account: joseastrada999

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This is not development, please post in correct section.
Take it easy
O_G

tessut
Are you sure? this is great!))

Stop piracy!!!!
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nanoware said:
Stop piracy!!!!
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why are you saying that ?

Zloy Pryanik said:
tessut
Are you sure? this is great!))
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try it out but do not post any xap's here in the forum !

tessut said:
why are you saying that ?
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Sideloading a game sounds like the game is being pirated. There is no supported method to buy a game then sideload it in the WP7 marketplace.
The only way that this is possably legal is if the OP paid for the game, then sideloaded it but, even then it's questionable.
As I am wondering how this works, it's stil a questionable in a legal aspect, so I will not continue the discussion.
Personally, this promotes piracy (with the DFT rom you can still get achivements off downloaded Xbox live games) and this thread should be closed...if not deleted.

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Sideloading a game sounds like the game is being pirated. There is no supported method to buy a game then sideload it in the WP7 marketplace.
The only way that this is possably legal is if the OP paid for the game, then sideloaded it but, even then it's questionable.
As I am wondering how this works, it's stil a questionable in a legal aspect, so I will not continue the discussion.
Personally, this promotes piracy (with the DFT rom you can still get achivements off downloaded Xbox live games) and this thread should be closed...if not deleted.
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+1. Honestly, I can't comprehend why people - running a round with a device worth a couple of a hundred dollars - refuse to pay 2 or 3 dollars for a game or app. That's just weak.

dkp1977 said:
+1. Honestly, I can't comprehend why people - running a round with a device worth a couple of a hundred dollars - refuse to pay 2 or 3 dollars for a game or app. That's just weak.
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ok i agree with you but if you paid a game and on the other account you did'nt buy it idont think that you will buy a game twice ?

I use DFT V1, installed DFT V2 and now i am using ansar mango rom as for now but i need more time i like more ansar mango roms since in the about and on screens looks more like the original rom

In before the close. yea sounds like those games were pirated to me. while i do agree with buying games i do not like to buy apps because something better will always come along AND it might get baked into future updates.

JustinTV773 said:
In before the close. yea sounds like those games were pirated to me. while i do agree with buying games i do not like to buy apps because something better will always come along AND it might get baked into future updates.
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And that makes it okay? Gtfoh, these developers bust their asses to deliver great products to us, and some of you guys believe the world should be free. It must be nice envisioning a communist society, some of you even live in one. But, considering I'm not a communist or socialist, I think the arguments to support piracy on this forum are ridiculous. I really hope those new encryption updates by Microsoft stop this BS and ban anybody's gamertag who used a stolen game.

FiyaFleye said:
And that makes it okay? Gtfoh, these developers bust their asses to deliver great products to us, and some of you guys believe the world should be free. It must be nice envisioning a communist society, some of you even live in one. But, considering I'm not a communist or socialist, I think the arguments to support piracy on this forum are ridiculous. I really hope those new encryption updates by Microsoft stop this BS and ban anybody's gamertag who used a stolen game.
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no it's not ok but if microsoft would add a better payment system there were more app/game buyers on the Windows Phone Marketplace or how do you think ?

the games played on mango ssonic , bunker buster, armor voley , attack from the dead, alpha strike .....

tessut said:
no it's not ok but if microsoft would add a better payment system there were more app/game buyers on the Windows Phone Marketplace or how do you think ?
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In fact, the payment system records what games you have bought all through. Once you would like to install it again (on same Live account), they will ask you if you would like to installed it again now as you have already paid for that.
I haven't met the double payment for the same app so far.
Even pressing "buy" still doesn't mean you have already bought and paid, instead they will ask you if you really want to pay as there is no refund for it. You may have a try.

tessut said:
no it's not ok but if microsoft would add a better payment system there were more app/game buyers on the Windows Phone Marketplace or how do you think ?
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Payment system works just fine. I've actually uninstalled and installed many apps that I've paid for. Nothing makes stealing okay.

FiyaFleye said:
Payment system works just fine. I've actually uninstalled and installed many apps that I've paid for. Nothing makes stealing okay.
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not everybody have a creditcard i would apriciate it if microsoft would add payment with microsoft points

tessut said:
not everybody have a creditcard i would apriciate it if microsoft would add payment with microsoft points
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That still is not an excuse to pirate. Most banks offer pre-paid creditcard options for this type of stuff.
Now days if you open any checking account (at least in the US) you expect to get a debit card with a Visa/Mastercard logo on it.
As I 100% agree with you, everyone thought, Xbox live=Xbox points before WP7 came out. I would like the option myself but, it should not make you pirate.
If you can afford the collection of phones that you have had or have, I am sure you can afford a $2-5 game or app here and there. If you can not, sell your smart phone and go buy a fip phone. You should not be here in the first place.

tessut said:
not everybody have a creditcard i would apriciate it if microsoft would add payment with microsoft points
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Look up Virtual/Disposable credit cards, they can be very useful even if you do have a credit card because you can get them for one time uses.

xHausx said:
Look up Virtual/Disposable credit cards, they can be very useful even if you do have a credit card because you can get them for one time uses.
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i just bought a t-mobile Card so i can Pay With my sim Card
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[BOUNTY] For Supercurio to fix SGH-T989 Screen Issues + more!!

Donations is completed and supercurio has successfully received the phone and he is currently working on the kernel drivers for the fixes so stay tuned and make sure to fallow his twitter account for more updates. Thanks to everyone that donated and supported the thread. I'm pretty sure supercurio is also thankfull to you guys.
Use this thread to discuss about the fix and also to chit chat about anything related the screen problems on our SGH-T989.

i think you missed the point
Supercurio said Samsung should send him one, not us
he didn't ask us to pitch in for a device
he asked us to contact Samsung and have Samsung send him a device.
found it http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19142874&postcount=220
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Note: I received a donation but when I tell "I don't have a device" the goal is not really to ask you to pay for it − especially since I have no idea if I'll get results eventually.
I firmly believe it's manufacturer's role to fix it. And the manufacturer here is Sam.. err no; it doesn't really works like that in the US. Manufacturer is T-Mobile.
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AllGamer said:
i think you missed the point
Supercurio said Samsung should send him one, not us
he didn't ask us to pitch in for a device
he asked us to contact Samsung and have Samsung send him a device.
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I didn't not know about this sorry. I guess there is nothing wrong with the community to pitch in for a device....Samsung might not send him one. This is a heck of great community so I'm pretty sure we can all get him the device faster than Samsung.
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there fixed your tittle

How do we go about asking Samsung to do this? I can't just say "hey give supercurio a T989" they wouldn't even know who I'm talking about.
Someone wants to organize this?

i vote for Surfacet to lead this, since he started this topic

The thing is I never done a thread like this before. This is my first thread ever on xda. This thread got sticked? I thought it got removed or something lol.
Lets see supercurio's response. I cant send him a message since he got it disabled
-Algamer
Contacting Samsung was kinda your idea...My idea was to make it a bounty and donate to him for the cause

Social media is a great medium.

Spam Samsung John and Carla anyone? Let's do it.

I'd be willing to donate. Just look how fast the other devs got their bounties, I bet we could get him one in two weeks or less.
Swyped from my iPhone eater
-BeastMOD

Quick note: Galaxy S II audio hardware is not Voodoo Sound capable.
I work only on Super AMOLED plus, awaiting better quality audio chip in the future generations of devices (Voodoo Sound is still in development for supported devices)
Allgamer: if people want to raise funds to send me a device why not. It will always be soon enough to cancel the process if Tmo/Samsung does, and will also demonstrate users determination.
Feel free to contact Samsung reps but please avoid spamming them, it would be severely counter-productive.

As long as you are okay with that, then by all means lets turn this topic into an official [BOUNTY] for Mr. curio

WHERE DO WE DONATE?
The link in Sir Curio's signature is for donating to his Voodoo project, do we need another link for T989 screen issue only, for easier financial consolidation?

There should be another donation link but not sure if super has it or not. I'm waiting for him to give us the link to where to donate so I can put it on the OP.
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As written in the bounty guidelines, I would suggest counting first and then, later, sending the donations.
Its easier than refunding everyone if its canceled for some reason
As I cannot buy this device in France, it would be pretty nice to choose a trusty well known peer who would receive the donations, buy the phone and post it (shipping costs about $35, something like that) in my direction.
I'm listening.

I own Gigahertz Computers in Warner Robins, GA. IV never done any business in the marketplace here but I have an associate with a tmo sgs2 for $400 that is new (opened and played with but spotless and is in the box with receipt where he paid full retail from a walk-in tmo store 2 weeks ago. I have a PayPal account and would be more than happy to take on the responsibility of taking the donations and getting SC the device. I have an eBay account with 44 recent transactions (mostly phones) that is spotless everybody can checkout. Mountdenizen is the screen name. My business is a Mac / mobile device service and support shop and the eBay transactions have been done because of it. Allgamer, I'm not real sure how this all works but IV seen the thread for awhile now and have seen people talking about starting a pot for the device... just thought we may need to take the bull by the horns here. I in no way feel special or entitled to do this, just willing. I'm listening as well. My email is [email protected] and that's also my PayPal account. I'm on here on and off all day (kind of Android obsessed here) so you can contact me anytime. I do think we need to keep everything public and in the forums to keep all parties involved as transparent as possible. Off to bed, ill check back in the A.M.
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You guys won't regret getting this guy the device. He will unleash its power. He is one of respectful developers on xda. Check out his work.

I'd be happy to donate a few dollars. I love super's work on the vibrant. Voodoo and voodoo sound just made it top notch.

supercurio said:
As written in the bounty guidelines, I would suggest counting first and then, later, sending the donations.
Its easier than refunding everyone if its canceled for some reason
As I cannot buy this device in France, it would be pretty nice to choose a trusty well known peer who would receive the donations, buy the phone and post it (shipping costs about $35, something like that) in my direction.
I'm listening.
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I would be down to buy it (and throw in some dollars) for you supercurio. Just throwing that out there.

knotphunnie said:
I'd be happy to donate a few dollars. I love super's work on the vibrant. Voodoo and voodoo sound just made it top notch.
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+1
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