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I know people are rooting their desires to install apps on memory card and to gain access to paid apps, but I've seen people visiting 4shared.com and downloading paid apps for free and they work perfectly on UNrooted desire and nexus.
Why risk bricking your 600$ phone when you still can get paid apps from 4shared.com or filecrop.com and similar websites,also A2SD is solved by Froyo now.
Just buy your apps and don't flash your device, always safe and secure.

The use to root your device to get free "paying app" is simple.
* Dev's won't get any money
* Dev does not want to waste time for people like you
* You think they developp app just for fun and don't care about money?
You are just killing Android by downloading paid apps for free

Before Froyo announcement, I thought I would root my device.
But what were my needs ?
- Wifi tethering
- Apps in SD Card
Froyo fixes these.
Plus, if you don't root your Desire, there will be no security hole.
Most of the apps on the Market are around 1 buck, it costs a "pain au chocolat" ! And with a way better lifespan that the delicious breakfast.
Please buy apps, don't steal them.

profete162 said:
The use to root your device to get free "paying app" is simple.
* Dev's won't get any money
* Dev does not want to waste time for people like you
* You think they developp app just for fun and don't care about money?
You are just killing Android by downloading paid apps for free
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People like me? this is only My 20th post and you think you know me? My thread is just a general outta curiosity question, I dont have any Android device anymore, sold My N1. I use locked and non jailbroken 3gs and I do pay for My apps, but I do like to know about these things which are popular and swimming in threads like rooting and iphone vs android etc. I cannot use custom roms with iPhone, so just curious about what rooting does to Android, so chill mate!

wrong message. he changed his text so he is not going to steal his phone on 4shared.com

pikatchu said:
wrong message. he changed his text so he is not going to steal his phone on 4shared.com
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lol, who is stealing whose phone?

Road sms charged for by market dev

Road sms (free samsung app from app store), is being charged for in android market by "rayman50".
http://www.appbrain.com/app/road-sms/kr.touchsoft.samsung.roadSms
I hate when people do **** like that, charge for apps that are meant to be free. I would like to ask him to stop distributing it, but I can't see any contact details.

Here's an idea: The app was created by rayman50, who reached an agreement with Samsung that allowed them to distribute the app for SGS. He can still sell it if he wants to.
Just like Asphalt 5 - created and sold by Gameloft, but Samsung give it for free to SGS users

Rawat said:
Here's an idea: The app was created by rayman50, who reached an agreement with Samsung that allowed them to distribute the app for SGS. He can still sell it if he wants to.
Just like Asphalt 5 - created and sold by Gameloft, but Samsung give it for free to SGS users
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If he built it let him sell it.

Rawat said:
Here's an idea: The app was created by rayman50, who reached an agreement with Samsung that allowed them to distribute the app for SGS. He can still sell it if he wants to.
Just like Asphalt 5 - created and sold by Gameloft, but Samsung give it for free to SGS users
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Um, thats a possibility sure, and if true I'd completely apologize.
However, it seems pretty unlikely when you look at all the other apps he's distributing on the market, some of which I am 100% sure are not developed by him.
Gallery3D (made by cooliris iirc)
LG Home (LG)
LG Memo Widget (LG)
LG Calendar (LG)
Call Mum (HTC)
He hasn't even changed the internal name of the package kr.touchsoft.samsung.roadSms. If you consider asphalt, the package has "gameloft" the author in it. This has "touchsoft" in it so I'm inclined to believe it's developed by touchsoft http://www.touchsoft.com.au/TouchSoft/Home.html
So most of the apps he distributes are just dumped from various devices, and he wouldn't have permission to distribute. I think that's pretty shady, but doesn't really bother me as long as they're free (as they're meant to be, and can be acquired on xda/other sites anyway).
But when you charge for a free app made by someone else, that is immoral and against the spirit of the android community
Imagine if you paid for the app, and then realized that you weren't even paying the real author, and that it is freely distributed (and legally) elsewhere.
EDIT: I have emailed him to peacefully ask him to stop charging. I'm not trying to be anal here, I just hate to see this kind of thing happening.

Hmm.. If he is doing something dodgy then I suggest you send a complaint to Google then Samsung. They have lawyers on leshes ready for blood

No I wouldn't go that far, it's not my problem really, I just don't want people in the community to get scammed. So I've asked him to do stop charging in the email.

oswade said:
No I wouldn't go that far, it's not my problem really, I just don't want people in the community to get scammed. So I've asked him to do stop charging in the email.
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If he's scamming people then he has no morals and wont care for your email...

He is a cheat. Just report him. After n number of reports, they will ban the guy.
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what i wanna know is he actaully getting paid $1.23 for every one of them sold? it says there are 100-500 downloads... so he made at least $123 doing this???!!!
If so, where do i sign up!

Well it says he originally released it to the market for free, so how many of those downloads are paid i don't know... But it's likely some of them were eh..

If that's the case, flag it in the market. I just did.

Rawat said:
If that's the case, flag it in the market. I just did.
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I did too. Explained that it was available from Samsung for free.

Block all the ads! P.S It's what's killing your battery.

I dislike all forms of advertising, but this gives me more reason to do whatever I can to block them from my phone!
http://www.newscientist.com/mobile/...t-up-your-phone-battery-just-sending-ads.html
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I've been using adfree ever since I own an android phone.

I use Adaway. Works perfectly.

The main purpose of ad-blocker is to remove ads from sight. That doesn't necessarily mean the blockers are actually doing anything other than stopping us from seeing the ads. I don't know. Perhaps they do stop processing from running in the background which consume power. Most of these apps such as adaway and adfree work by blocking requests based on names in the host file. It has never been explained or demonstrated to my satisfaction that this actually has any benefit beyond not seeing the ads.

As the guy above said, it just blocks the hosts. Therefore battery life will still be used up sending requests etc.
Why don't you just pay the developers like 70p for their apps if you're that bothered about ads? Jeez.

case0 said:
As the guy above said, it just blocks the hosts. Therefore battery life will still be used up sending requests etc.
Why don't you just pay the developers like 70p for their apps if you're that bothered about ads? Jeez.
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I think you're missing the point. If free apps with ads are negatively affecting our phone experience, extorting us to upgrade isn't the answer! Clearly, ads have no place on our devices. I'm totally happy if developers want to issue demo or limited versions of their app and a full version with more features.
Charging users to remove ads is a dirty way of doing business.
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EP2008 said:
I think you're missing the point. If free apps with ads are negatively affecting our phone experience, extorting us to upgrade isn't the answer! Clearly, ads have no place on our devices. I'm totally happy if developers want to issue demo or limited versions of their app and a full version with more features.
Charging users to remove ads is a dirty way of doing business.
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Really? That's not extortion... I don't think you understand. Seriously, the dev has to make money. They offer you the option of having ads or paying to remove them. There's nothing to be complaining about. Complaining that app devs want to make money is the most ridiculous thing ever.

martonikaj said:
Really? That's not extortion... I don't think you understand. Seriously, the dev has to make money. They offer you the option of having ads or paying to remove them. There's nothing to be complaining about. Complaining that app devs want to make money is the most ridiculous thing ever.
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You didn't read my post did you?
I offered an alternative to ads polluting a developers app - offer a demo or limited version of your app, and a paid version with all the features.
Ads in an app do more harm than good. Many negative app reviews I read involves apps that don't work because of ads blocking the UI or being too obtrusive. Those potential customers LEAVE and never come back.
I've spent over $300 in apps and never once have I purchased an app solely to get rid of ads.
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Here is my solution....don't leave open apps with ads running in the foreground.
And as said before, ad blockers don't stop the requests, so they are not saving your battery.

adrynalyne said:
Here is my solution....don't leave open apps with ads running in the foreground.
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I believe the study suggested that the ads in these apps were creating wakelocks when not in the foreground and using location services too frequently.
Really, they sound like a virus to me...
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Not to mention the crashing and freezing from bad ads!
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EP2008 said:
You didn't read my post did you?
I offered an alternative to ads polluting a developers app - offer a demo or limited version of your app, and a paid version with all the features.
Ads in an app do more harm than good. Many negative app reviews I read involves apps that don't work because of ads blocking the UI or being too obtrusive. Those potential customers LEAVE and never come back.
I've spent over $300 in apps and never once have I purchased an app solely to get rid of ads.
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What I'm saying is its not extortion for them to offer a free and paid version to remove ads. They can choose to monetize however they want to. If you don't want to use their apps then that's your choice. But they reserve the right to do whatever they want to monetize -- whether its through ads, trials, or in-game purchases, etc..
If they get enough feedback that ads in their apps don't work properly and its negatively effecting installs/purchases, then they will change it. But that's their choice.
The use of the word "extortion" is still wayyyy overboard.

martonikaj said:
What I'm saying is its not extortion for them to offer a free and paid version to remove ads. They can choose to monetize however they want to. If you don't want to use their apps then that's your choice. But they reserve the right to do whatever they want to monetize -- whether its through ads, trials, or in-game purchases, etc..
If they get enough feedback that ads in their apps don't work properly and its negatively effecting installs/purchases, then they will change it. But that's their choice.
The use of the word "extortion" is still wayyyy overboard.
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Perhaps "extortion" is a bit extreme, but choose to call it what you like.
I hold the belief that's apps should be purchased because they are useful, not annoying. And I'm not afraid to support developers who don't annoy.
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EP2008 said:
Perhaps "extortion" is a bit extreme, but choose to call it what you like.
I hold the belief that's apps should be purchased because they are useful, not annoying. And I'm not afraid to support developers who don't annoy.
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I don't really see your point. For you it's ok to release a limited demo with no ads. If you want full functionality, you pay for the full. However, it's bad form to release a FULL version of the same app that is ad-supported and asking to pay for an ad-free version is bad form.
So, a gimped version is better than a fully functional, ad-supported version? What's the difference between paying to get a full version and paying to remove the ads? If you are willing to pay, then you have already decided that the app is useful to you. If you aren't willing to pay for an ad-free version, then maybe the app isn't what you're looking for. Just because the dev decided to release a free ad-supported version, it doesn't entitle you to a free ad-free version.

j.go said:
What's the difference between paying to get a full version and paying to remove the ads?
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I don't feel as if I'm rewarding the developer when I'm paying to get rid of ads. I want to pay them for the great work they put out.
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EP2008 said:
I don't feel as if I'm rewarding the developer when I'm paying to get rid of ads. I want to pay them for the great work they put out.
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Either way you're paying for an app you want to use... Its rewarding them by paying them.
If it wasn't a great app you wouldn't be paying them, regardless of what their scheme was for payment.

EP2008 said:
I don't feel as if I'm rewarding the developer when I'm paying to get rid of ads. I want to pay them for the great work they put out.
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Yes you are. The developer is taking a risk by releasing the full version free. A lot of people can look past the ads and go on using the free version since it does exactly what the paid version does (but with ads). Besides removing the ads, there is no compelling reason to buy the ad-free version. More so with some developers who put the ads in unobtrusive places like the preferences menu, so that unless you plan on changing some settings, you wouldn't even notice it had ads.
Buying the ad-free version IS rewarding the developer(s).

j.go said:
I don't really see your point. For you it's ok to release a limited demo with no ads. If you want full functionality, you pay for the full. However, it's bad form to release a FULL version of the same app that is ad-supported and asking to pay for an ad-free version is bad form.
So, a gimped version is better than a fully functional, ad-supported version? What's the difference between paying to get a full version and paying to remove the ads? If you are willing to pay, then you have already decided that the app is useful to you. If you aren't willing to pay for an ad-free version, then maybe the app isn't what you're looking for. Just because the dev decided to release a free ad-supported version, it doesn't entitle you to a free ad-free version.
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The apps being ads supported ain't the problem. The fact these ads are poorly integrated into the apps is the problem! So much so that the ads use more battery than the apps do. By all means integrate ads into apps, but do it properly. I think that is all that is being said here!
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Slightly off topic but definitely related, I read an article today that referenced a study that showed that some of the ads that developers have been using in their free apps have security vulnerabilities. I need to find the article though otherwise I'm just talking out of my ass.
edit: found it! http://www.csc.ncsu.edu/faculty/jiang/pubs/WISEC12_ADRISK.pdf

STANNY08 said:
The apps being ads supported ain't the problem. The fact these ads are poorly integrated into the apps is the problem! So much so that the ads use more battery than the apps do. By all means integrate ads into apps, but do it properly. I think that is all that is being said here!
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My post has nothing to do with the issue of poorly implemented advertising in apps. It was about him complaining about full version ad-supported apps asking you to pay for an ad-free version. Which is, in my opinion, no different from a lite/demo app asking you to buy the full version to use all the features.

Gaming & $$$

For as long as most android users, most have been with android since the beginning. We now have gaming, interactive apps and all sorts of cooky apps. Some to most of which are priced.
Here's an article I found trying to find Indie PC games for android "I failed".
http://www.webpronews.com/android-users-dont-want-to-pay-for-anything-2012-07 it talks about android users don't pay for apps, mostly because of root/no trial-free version.
This struck me as interesting because honestly I'd figure devs to be happy to share there work with the world for free. I honestly myself believe devs who charge just want money.
I do unfortunately buy some of these terrible products, but do give props and respect to those who do manage to make a fantastic app.
If its priced at least make it a good app, give a trial or free version.
This is where gaming comes in, obviously we know if not most games are marked with prices with no free trials and are half assed.
So I can see where piracy comes in, no one wants to pay 5.99$ for a half assed game. I've bought some games I regret and I proudly say if they release another I will pirate it. Sometimes its better to stay free, if its a great app or a dev who has done previous great work I would support them.
Yes I do pirate and I don't. Its where I stand with the devs and apps.
I'm shocked we don't pay for ROMs honestly.. these devs are fantastic at what they do and yes its for free, so props to them "unless it would be illegal which I don't believe it is" :sly:
Anyway.. I'm curious what you guys think?
Feel the same, do you support every dev in the play store?
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This is not meant to be offensive, but I might rant a bit.
Devs sharing their work for free? Have you ever programmed, taken a programming course, or had to pay 80k for a bachelors in Computer Science? It is time consuming to think of a good idea, implement it well, and then squash bugs. It takes HOURS, days, if not months.
Yes, there are devs who charge for crappy apps and I agree, some devs are greedy. However, isn't paying for an app the same logic as paying for a pizza? Yes, you can make one yourself, but its not like you can make a quality pizza without spending a lot in ingredients or machines (ovens, etc)--you're paying for the convenience of it being done already for you.
This applies to apps as well. You may be able to program something similar given enough time, but you are paying for the convenience and their time for making the app for you to use. Just because it is digital and not tangible doesn't make it any less work.
Now I agree that there should be some sort of trial for an app to see whether or not its good or that you like it. Unfortunately, the world doesnt run on this type of honesty and nobody would pay if it were offered for free. Thats why devs have to charge and thats why some people pirate. However, if you do pirate, please throw the developer some money if you really enjoy their app or use it frequently, otherwise if they go broke, how will they keep developing your favorite app?
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You are right.
No argument* I want it to be a clean talk amongst android users.
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I don't see this thread going anywhere but down hill and fast
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Same goes for PC games. PC gamers can't rent games so they pirate. If you buy a PC game , guess what, you're stuck with it.
But, as for android apps at least we can get a refund which eleviates the need for a trial in some circumstances
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Piracy is a huge issue on Android, but like any thing you just have to put a little effort into making it more difficult to crack. Although a lot of people say that leaving it free with ads actually makes them more money then charging for it.
http://techcrunch.com/2012/08/26/how-free-apps-can-make-more-money-than-paid-apps/
edit: if you like indie games you should check out the humble bundle

OP, your logic is horrible. I do applaud your honesty, no matter how awful I believe it to be. Devs create content have a free will choice to make, and those who charge are well within their rights to do so. NOBODY HAS THE RIGHT TO STEAL, EVER. Now, having said that, some devs create content as their job. How can they buy food and pay rent if people steal their stuff. This thread is a failure, other than highlighting the challenge Google has in locking down Android to prevent piracy but still allow side loading and customizing.
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Didn't jellybean announce new device specific encryption for apps. Though I'm doubting it won't be cracked...
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msavic6 said:
Didn't jellybean announce new device specific encryption for apps. Though I'm doubting it won't be cracked...
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Yup says that in the article.
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You're basically asking for a carpenter to build a house and give it away for free. Development costs time and money, and they have every right to ask back so that they can continue.
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I think everyone likes free stuff，this is normal

When i was new to android, i swore i would never pay for an app or game, and was happy that way. Then i got titanium backup and loved it, but hated that i couldn't batch restore, so i broke down and bought premium. Then i started frequenting these forums, seeing how much effort some of these devs out into their apps, games, etc. Now i pay for them, gladly, an i look for paid apps by respected devs first. Mostly i do it for functionality, but also to support. Titanium Backup, Franco kernel, CWM touch recovery, root explorer and many more I've bought and will gladly continue to do so. I get better apps and i support further development. Win/win in my book.
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Right, because 5.99 is such an exorbitant price... so many other things that I could do with that money that would have lasting value... wait. No, not really.
If you don't want to spend the money on the app then you don't really want it. Don't steal.

Because of this thinking and abuse Android is full of crap adware/push adware games, and you don't see most quality games released for Android. That is so sad.
I just have one question: do you work for free? Or do your poor employer have to shell out some bucks to have you working there? Yes, I wonder why those bastard devs charge for they hard work, or use those ad craps to try to get some money out of their hard work...
And also, you say, there is a lot of sh1tware, yes, there are, as there are a lot of sh1temployees.... You hire them, they do not do their work, they get fired... You buy sh1tware, you realize it is sh1t, then you won't ever buy anything from those bastards again... I really loved when you had an entire day to get a refund in Android Market, but them, a lot of smartass3s had to abuse it, and just use the game/app for the entire day and ask for a refund, doing that for several games/apps....
So, if Android market for games is like it is today, is just because most people think like you, either don't buy anything at all, they prefer to stick to a free ad game than paying 5-7-10 bucks for a quality game like Infinity Blade, or, worse, they just pirate it, and yes, installous and jailbreak exist for iOS, but this is not as easy as just ticking a box in settings menu and then downloading APK's from anywhere...
Don't get me wrong, I love the way Android is open, but, unfortunately, most people suck and doesn't know how to use freedom, instead, they abuse and try to get advantages out of it...

Unfortunately Google will probably end up walling their garden because of these issues, or at least surrounding it with thorn bushes
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I hate how articles act like piracy isn't an issue on other platforms....
A jailbroken iphone has tons of pirate app stores

crixley said:
I hate how articles act like piracy isn't an issue on other platforms....
A jailbroken iphone has tons of pirate app stores
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Yup. Jail broke my brother's iPhone and the first thing he ask is, "OK load it up with apps for free."
I stared at him and made him learn it himself. He did, but still, $1 doesnt kill.
I just bought COD: BOZ, a $7 app. The closest I am to pirating is "Game Sharing".
Me and my friends put each other's Gmail account(requires a lot of trust Cuz we can tamper with each other's mail & stuff) on each other's phone and share our purchased apps. Done.
I do admit I pirate once in a while(Nova 3 being one, so laggy that it wasn't worth the price.)
But there is one punishment I love about Jailbreakers, if you pirate your apps, u can't put em back in when you unjailbreak to upgrade to the next iOS.
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If I have helped you.... hit that sexy thanks button. ^_^

Pretty much all the people I know who own an iPhone or iPod touch and have it jail broken mainly did it for installous...
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msavic6 said:
Pretty much all the people I know who own an iPhone or iPod touch and have it jail broken mainly did it for installous...
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first thing that all Jailbreakers learn how to do.
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i never thoght i would pay money for apps or anything. but later on as i used android, and looked at forums, i realized that devs really do alot of work. put urself in their shoes, and first thing i thought was "why the fk should i bother making this crap if all its gonna do is go to some ungrateful persons phone and im not even gonna get a thanks". so i regularly buy apps. not only does that make the android market that much closer to being as good and as diverse as the ios market, but u also get the LEGIT app without any risks of having some weird ass **** go wrong with ur phone in a very subtle way.....

Google pull adblockers from market

It looks like google have removed adblock plus adaway and such from the market, so backup your APK's if you want to carry on using those apps.

We could always ditch google play...
Can't post links, but anyone who wants site or direct download links, please PM me.

It's understandable that they are doing this. After all they give out Android and the sources for FREE. Everyone knows Google earns most if its revenue from adds and it isn't unreasonable to ask users for support in the form of accepting adds in free apps.
If you want to get rid of adds just show some support to devs and get payed versions of apps you use. If you want to support warez even by pm's you can do that elsewhere.

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It's understandable that they are doing this. After all they give out Android and the sources for FREE. Everyone knows Google earns most if its revenue from adds and it isn't unreasonable to ask users for support in the form of accepting adds in free apps.
If you want to get rid of adds just show some support to devs and get payed versions of apps you use. If you want to support warez even by pm's you can do that elsewhere.
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What are you talking about?! :laugh: What warez?!
Those are free apps, just being kicked out from google play, doesn't make them wares.
If you bother, you could find them yourself, just use google.
BTW, I am unable to donate to devs cause of my country's policies, no matter how willing I am. So, use your brain a little before making offensive comments.

Plus the likes of adaway stops ads on websites as well which is very useful.
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Drefsab said:
It looks like google have removed adblock plus adaway and such from the market, so backup your APK's if you want to carry on using those apps.
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The answer is at https://f-droid.org/
Incidentally they so seem to have pulled all 3rd party store apps.
I see no ethical issues with installing an ad blocking app. On my PCs I have gone even further and installed Ghostery which blocks all sort of tracking activities.
We do need to be aware that adware helps devs provide stuff for free, and the good ones give you the option of paying a little to remove the ads.

do you work for Google or something?
since when is blocking ads considered warez?
Is dvr warez for you too? I don't watch ads on TV either.
I have adblock on my pc, oh my what a hacker I am...
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Another alternative to the ad blocker apps is to change your hosts file in the system/etc folder..
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http://db.tt/WI1GQXwJ APK for adaway incase you aren't able to get it.
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akselic said:
It's understandable that they are doing this. After all they give out Android and the sources for FREE. Everyone knows Google earns most if its revenue from adds and it isn't unreasonable to ask users for support in the form of accepting adds in free apps.
If you want to get rid of adds just show some support to devs and get payed versions of apps you use. If you want to support warez even by pm's you can do that elsewhere.
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Actually, you have a point.
People work hard, and then they give their work for free, so they give ads, for revenue, and then you find loopholes in that too?
This is just my opinion, don't mean to start an argument.
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theDroidfanatic said:
Actually, you have a point.
People work hard, and then they give their work for free, so they give ads, for revenue, and then you find loopholes in that too?
This is just my opinion, don't mean to start an argument.
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playstation network is free, but I paid for the console, if ps3 made adds all over the screen so you couldn't play or view it, I'm sure that they would lose customers. Google makes enough money from sales of their phones, which have the latest android first, and make alot of money with other things that they produce. There is no need for them to mess up an app that a dev put out there for free bc of greed. just sayin

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playstation network is free, but I paid for the console, if ps3 made adds all over the screen so you couldn't play or view it, I'm sure that they would lose customers. Google makes enough money from sales of their phones, which have the latest android first, and make alot of money with other things that they produce. There is no need for them to mess up an app that a dev put out there for free bc of greed. just sayin
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Yes, but this isn't Google we're talking about, it is the Devs.
The Devs add the ads to their apps, for their income, not Google's
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theDroidfanatic said:
Yes, but this isn't Google we're talking about, it is the Devs.
The Devs add the ads to their apps, for their income, not Google's
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and if a dev needs income they should make it a paid app / adds are the devils work

toolhas4degrees said:
and if a dev needs income they should make it a paid app / adds are the devils work
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Lol, you don't get it do you?
They want to give people, who can't buy apps, access to them.
Anyways, this is their wish, and if you block ads, that is wrong, don't want ads? Don't use their apps, simple as that.
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let's not pretend here this is a thing about legality or not.
it's in my right to block ads if I want to.
it's also a developer's choice to make his app free and ad supported. By blocking ads I'm not doing anything illegal.
Google removing ad blockers is simply a move to increase profit. it's a choice they are entitled to as a business but not something I have to tolerate as an end user, and i don't.
my point is, if you want to make your app ad supported you are just gonna have to accept the fact that some users just don't like ads.
this does limit profits for the developer's I guess but as an end user I'm not doing anything wrong.
I like to support developers, when it's due. Watching ads, wasting bandwidth and battery is not one of the acceptable means though .
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drivenby said:
let's not pretend here this is a thing about legality or not.
it's in my right to block ads if I want to.
it's also a developer's choice to make his app free and ad supported. By blocking ads I'm not doing anything illegal.
Google removing ad blockers is simply a move to increase profit. it's a choice they are entitled to as a business but not something I have to tolerate as an end user, and i don't.
my point is, if you want to make your app ad supported you are just gonna have to accept the fact that some users just don't like ads.
this does limit profits for the developer's I guess but as an end user I'm not doing anything wrong.
I like to support developers, when it's due. Watching ads, wasting bandwidth and battery is not one of the acceptable means though .
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That is not true.
You want to support developers? You clearly aren't if you do this, also, they give you the app for FREE, and give ads. Don't like the ads? Either: 1) But the Full version 2) Don't use the app
And I really don't get one thing nowadays, there is something known as ethics? General morals? Right and wrong?
It may not be illegal to block ads, but you're stopping the developers' incomes, those developers who give you their work for free, in exchange for tiny ads. And then you block those ads, that is wrong, my friend.
And waste bandwidth? You can't be serious How much bandwidth can a repetitive ad take? Less than half an MB a day? I'm sure that effects no one, especially if we are able to purchase a One X, and a computer.
Bottom line, Devs do hard work, and its wrong, if not illegal, to block ads.
Take this, for example. In many US states, a bit of Marijuana is legal, right?
But, If your hypothetical son, above the age of 18, smoked Marijuana, would you like it? No. Its not illegal, but its wrong, no? I know smoking pot is nothing near blocking ads, but its just to prove, that if something isn't illegal, it can still be wrong, which, I believe, blocking ads is.
And why do I support this? Because I'm a developer too, if not an app developer, a ROM developer. And its frikkin hard work. Working for hours, sitting on your butt with a laptop on your legs, continuously debugging, trying different things, making it perfect, then releasing it, and If people block ads? For me, it would be like if everyone used my ROM, but no one thanked me, or complimented it.
So, just saying, its wrong
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@theDroidfanatic
Sooo... I can't pay apps from my country... And I don't want ads on my phone... What should I do, any idea?

there is nothing morally wrong about blocking ads tdf
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donmarkoni said:
@theDroidfanatic
Sooo... I can't pay apps from my country... And I don't want ads on my phone... What should I do, any idea?
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Easiest way is to use google to search for ad blockers. That's all...

donmarkoni said:
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Sooo... I can't pay apps from my country... And I don't want ads on my phone... What should I do, any idea?
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Live with the ads
We can't always get what we want, and you can use the Amazon AppStore, it's easy to make a US account there, many tutorials on Google, I buy must of my apps from there
drivenby said:
there is nothing morally wrong about blocking ads tdf
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According to me, there is, cuz it's their income you're blocking, but everyone's entitled to his own opinion
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