Hi,
I did a backup of my ROM with ROM Manager, because I wanted to try and see the new 2.3 Gingerbread Cyanogenmod7. All was fine and well, i went to backup ROM and it backed up or so I thought (-.-'). I went and copy the backup from my SD card to my computer just and just in case also made a copy of my contacts (thank god for that).
Then I installed the new C7 2.3 ROM via ROM Manager and it asked me if I want to backup the ROM (which i already did) and to wipe data/cache. I checked the wipe data/cache and went on with the boot and everything. The installation was successfull and the C7 is great, but then i wanted to go back to my Rooted HTC Sense ROM.
I went back to ROM Manager and went for recover ROMs and did a recovery. Went the phone booted all my files, applications, sms's and every little thing was deleted.
Now my question is this, how is that possible, i made a backup BEFORE checking the wipe data/cache ?
Is there a way to get my data back ?? I still have the backup on my computer.
Thanks for all the comments and help...
Hmm... you mean current message and contact is missing when you restored to 2.2?
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Yes messages, contacts and applications (for apps im not too worried).
And I've restored back to 2.1 !
I never went to froyo 2.2.
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So what is the different between a nandroid backup and a backup using titanium backup? What is being saved with either? I hear using titanium back up is a "full" backup. What is titanium backup used for if you are already rooted...wouldn't you already have a custom recovery like amon ra or cwm?
If I do a nandroid back up on stock 2.2 rooted, can i do the same back up while I'm on a custom ROM? Where is this "backup" being saved to? Can i have multiple backups for different ROMS?
Nandroid is more like creating an image backup of your operating system, it backs up both your rom and apps. Titanium just backups app, their data and if you choose system settings.
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techdude54 said:
Nandroid is more like creating an image backup of your operating system, it backs up both your rom and apps. Titanium just backups app, their data and if you choose system settings.
Swyped from my EVO running CyanogenMod 6.1 RC 1
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In what situation would i use titanium back up with a rooted evo?
Titanium backs up your app and data from your phone. I am rooted and I use it when I need it, when I want to re install apps when I switch roms.
Using my HTC Evo phone which I'm using Xda app to post
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So what is the different between a nandroid backup and a backup using titanium backup? What is being saved with either? I hear using titanium back up is a "full" backup. What is titanium backup used for if you are already rooted...wouldn't you already have a custom recovery like amon ra or cwm?
If I do a nandroid back up on stock 2.2 rooted, can i do the same back up while I'm on a custom ROM? Where is this "backup" being saved to? Can i have multiple backups for different ROMS?
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Think of Nandroid Backup as a system restore point you would create on your PC and if for some reason you installed something on your PC and it makes your PC unstable, you can do a system restore and go back to when your PC was acting perfectly. (So for your EVO...you create a nandroid...messed around with your phone and screw everything up...Power up into bootloader (or reboot into recovery)...go into recovery and restore your nandroid backup)
Titanium is for you to back everything to your SD card right before you decide to WIPE DATA, CACHE & DALVIK/CACHE to flash a NEW ROM. After you flash the NEW ROM...your phone will be like a new phone you just received out of box...you have to set everything up on it. So instead of spending hours, you swill only spend a few minutes doing everything. 1st and foremost, sign back into Google Market, download Titanium and tell it to restore all apps...data, etc. Not sure if Titanium backups home and system stuff, I use Mybackup Pro and it does...it has everything configured the way I originally had it on the previous ROM...all I do is set up all my POP mail accounts and sign back into Twitter...Facebook...etc.
honeyBfly said:
Think of Nandroid Backup as a system restore point you would create on your PC and if for some reason you installed something on your PC and it makes your PC unstable, you can do a system restore and go back to when your PC was acting perfectly. (So for your EVO...you create a nandroid...messed around with your phone and screw everything up...Power up into bootloader (or reboot into recovery)...go into recovery and restore your nandroid backup)
Titanium is for you to back everything to your SD card right before you decide to WIPE DATA, CACHE & DALVIK/CACHE to flash a NEW ROM. After you flash the NEW ROM...your phone will be like a new phone you just received out of box...you have to set everything up on it. So instead of spending hours, you swill only spend a few minutes doing everything. 1st and foremost, sign back into Google Market, download Titanium and tell it to restore all apps...data, etc. Not sure if Titanium backups home and system stuff, I use Mybackup Pro and it does...it has everything configured the way I originally had it on the previous ROM...all I do is set up all my POP mail accounts and sign back into Twitter...Facebook...etc.
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okay that makes sense. So whenever i flash a new rom, do I need to download titanium back (or MybackupPro) again on the new rom to get the data back? I can't locate the saved file from my sd card?
evo4gfan said:
okay that makes sense. So whenever i flash a new rom, do I need to download titanium back (or MybackupPro) again on the new rom to get the data back? I can't locate the saved file from my sd card?
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Swyped from my EVO running CyanogenMod 6.1 RC 1
honeyBfly said:
Think of Nandroid Backup as a system restore point you would create on your PC and if for some reason you installed something on your PC and it makes your PC unstable, you can do a system restore and go back to when your PC was acting perfectly. (So for your EVO...you create a nandroid...messed around with your phone and screw everything up...Power up into bootloader (or reboot into recovery)...go into recovery and restore your nandroid backup)
Titanium is for you to back everything to your SD card right before you decide to WIPE DATA, CACHE & DALVIK/CACHE to flash a NEW ROM. After you flash the NEW ROM...your phone will be like a new phone you just received out of box...you have to set everything up on it. So instead of spending hours, you swill only spend a few minutes doing everything. 1st and foremost, sign back into Google Market, download Titanium and tell it to restore all apps...data, etc. Not sure if Titanium backups home and system stuff, I use Mybackup Pro and it does...it has everything configured the way I originally had it on the previous ROM...all I do is set up all my POP mail accounts and sign back into Twitter...Facebook...etc.
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I use Titanium Backup for backing up data and restoring it on a new ROM a lot. Before I flash a new ROM I always do a complete Titanium Backup and a nandroid backup. If the flash fails I restore from my nandroid backup and if the flash works I load my apps back with Titanium Backup (that way all my saved data on things like games is there and I don't have to start over).
I will caution against doing a restore of everything on a new ROM though (mostly a problem if you're going from something like a stock Evo based ROM to a AOSP ROM). I've had some issues when I restored a few system files (accounts database for example). If you stick with installable applications you shouldn't run into any trouble though (also I've had no problems restoring my call log and text message database).
When you are in Titanium Backup, when you hit menu and select more you can create a flashable .zip so that after flashing a new rom or resetting the device you don't have to log into the market to reinstall. Makes life a lot easier.
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When you are in Titanium Backup, when you hit menu and select more you can create a flashable .zip so that after flashing a new rom or resetting the device you don't have to log into the market to reinstall. Makes life a lot easier.
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I didn't know that, thanks for the tip.
I am running Virtuous and it is running smooth as butter, but I would like to try one of the CM7 nighly, and want to be able to go back if need be with out hours of work. I am running clockwork recovery and rom manager, and also have titaium back up installed. Phone is rooted with s-off. Can I just run a back up from rom manager do a complete wipe and install CM7. I also need to update hboot from .79 to .92 should this be done prior to the rom manager back up. Should CM7 not work out how do I restore back? Thanks
Yeah just nandroid (which means backing up the rom and all your settings) and you can go back at any time. In Rom manager just go to Backup current Rom and you will always have a copy of your setup EXACTLY as it is.
You can update HBOOT whenever you want, it really doesn't matter when you do it. Once you do it will stay that way.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't doing a nandroid backup essentially make a complete clone of your entire phone that you can restore later?
eman5oh said:
I am running Virtuous and it is running smooth as butter, but I would like to try one of the CM7 nighly, and want to be able to go back if need be with out hours of work. I am running clockwork recovery and rom manager, and also have titaium back up installed. Phone is rooted with s-off. Can I just run a back up from rom manager do a complete wipe and install CM7. I also need to update hboot from .79 to .92 should this be done prior to the rom manager back up. Should CM7 not work out how do I restore back? Thanks
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Okay, here's what you to do back up:
1. Back up your apps with Titanium Backup - DO NOT BACK UP PHONE DATA. Backing up data for games (e.g. Angry Birds) is fine, but don't back up contacts or Gmail or anything that's going to be included in your new ROM. Reason is, when you restore everything (more on that later), you don't want to have conflicting data screwing things up.
2. Make a nandroid using ROM Manager. Just go to where it says backup current rom, and let it do it's magic. You can (and should) rename it to something you can remember. DO NOT USE SPACES. I like to name mine with the date, ROM name, and version number (e.g. 2-3-11_Virtuous_3.1.0)
3. After the backup finishes, install the new ROM - I always do this through ROM Manager.
4. When CM7 is finished installing, download Titanium Backup and restore your apps using the batch operation - it's a lot simpler than trying to find all your apps and download/install them yourself
5. To go back, simply click "Restore Backup" in ROM Manager and pick Virtuous and all your hard work will be restored
Enjoy!
I've had lots of trouble with ROM manager not restoring or backing up my current ROM properly.....it'll always say that the installation was aborted or say the file is corrupt
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AlpineM3 said:
I've had lots of trouble with ROM manager not restoring or backing up my current ROM properly.....it'll always say that the installation was aborted or say the file is corrupt
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How much free space is left on your card? Format and try it with a clean card. I have never had a problem with it restoring anything of mine.
Zoon0n said:
Okay, here's what you to do back up:
1. Back up your apps with Titanium Backup - DO NOT BACK UP PHONE DATA. Backing up data for games (e.g. Angry Birds) is fine, but don't back up contacts or Gmail or anything that's going to be included in your new ROM. Reason is, when you restore everything (more on that later), you don't want to have conflicting data screwing things up.
2. Make a nandroid using ROM Manager. Just go to where it says backup current rom, and let it do it's magic. You can (and should) rename it to something you can remember. DO NOT USE SPACES. I like to name mine with the date, ROM name, and version number (e.g. 2-3-11_Virtuous_3.1.0)
3. After the backup finishes, install the new ROM - I always do this through ROM Manager.
4. When CM7 is finished installing, download Titanium Backup and restore your apps using the batch operation - it's a lot simpler than trying to find all your apps and download/install them yourself
5. To go back, simply click "Restore Backup" in ROM Manager and pick Virtuous and all your hard work will be restored
Enjoy!
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Am I asking for trouble when backing up apps via titium, and switching roms? I thought that I read that somewhere? I have used app brain to do the restores, but it is a little slow. Also Thanks to everyone for the replies.
I've read that the newer versions of Clockwork are troublesome....anything after 2.5.05. I just went in and erased any previous ROM's that I don't use anymore to free up valuable space on the SD card. Hopefully it works, but the message error i've been getting......well not a message error, but my phone seems to freeze up while developing MD5sum. I read to leave it alone and it might take 10 min's actually, but just want to confirm this is true. Thanks.
g00s3y said:
How much free space is left on your card? Format and try it with a clean card. I have never had a problem with it restoring anything of mine.
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AlpineM3 said:
I've read that the newer versions of Clockwork are troublesome....anything after 2.5.05. I just went in and erased any previous ROM's that I don't use anymore to free up valuable space on the SD card. Hopefully it works, but the message error i've been getting......well not a message error, but my phone seems to freeze up while developing MD5sum. I read to leave it alone and it might take 10 min's actually, but just want to confirm this is true. Thanks.
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I use 2.5.1.2 and have never personally had any problem, sorry.
eman5oh said:
Am I asking for trouble when backing up apps via titium, and switching roms? I thought that I read that somewhere? I have used app brain to do the restores, but it is a little slow. Also Thanks to everyone for the replies.
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I've gone from Stock to Virtuous to MIUI to CyanogenMod and I can say definitively that I have never had any problems with Titanium backing up/restoring apps. You are asking for trouble if you try to back up system data and restore it for ROM's that they were never intended for - just back up the apps you downloaded from the market/installed yourself and you'll be fine
So here is what I did,
1 Did a Rom back up from Rom manager
2 Backed up user apps with Titanium Pro
3 Updated Clock Work Mod to 2.5.1.2
4 Flashed Hboot from .79 to .92
This is were ran into a problem, after hboot flashed it just went into a boot loop were all I could do is go into hboot or clock work recovery but that is it phone would not boot. I searched a little and read that hboot wipes the kernal and that is why it will not reboot. I then went into clockwork and restored the rom I backed up in step 1, and it worked like a charm. Thought I would share so any one else who runs into this. Now off to flash cm7!
Rocking CM7 now, Thanks for all the help and advice from everyone. The Android community rocks.
I've installed Redux and enjoyed it on my phone for over a month now. However, I see there is a newer version out. What is the best way of updating (bearing in mind I've got quite a few apps that I don't want to install)?
TIA
You can just flash the new Redux version with the Rom Manager or with the Recovery. You dont have to wipe because you're already on Redux.
Nothing would be deleted. But it's helpfull to do a nandroid backup (a nandroid backup will backup everything on your phone (Apps, Data, Settings,...)) with Rom Manager or Recovery if something goes wrong with the update.
Hello,
I just got back my desire from repair and have rooted it again using unrevoked, my main rom i flashed was cyanogen 7, i made a backup and then i thought i would s-off and update to clockwork recovery 3....everything was successful.
But when i try out other roms then decide to restore my nandroid back up of cyanogen 7 messeges pop up quickly saying all the apps and stuff have stopped unexpectedly and then the phone reboots again and again.
Can some one help please.
Cheers.
Just do a full wipe and fresh install then backup again.
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Meaple said:
Just do a full wipe and fresh install then backup again.
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Hi,
I have done this 3 times and the nandroid backup still reboots, only way to fix it is to install cyanogen on top of it and it fixes it.
I think i will need to try with a sense rom and see if it happens too.
Thanks.
Your tryings to restore the same backup? I said wipe, install fresh then backup that rom, not restore the old one.
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And if you did some fancy formatting to your SD card. Well, Might think about that also....
Meaple said:
Your tryings to restore the same backup? I said wipe, install fresh then backup that rom, not restore the old one.
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I have deleted the old backup and made new one's each time after a full wipe, the card is formatted correctly and working fine, i have only had this problem after i updated clockwork mod and s-off.
G'day everyone, have been trying to find answers to my myriad newbie questions and have found this forum to be relatively noob-friendly, so bear with me whilst I pour them out!
Ok, so I've got a HTC Desire (GSM), unlocked and unbranded, running 2.2 with the baseband 32.49.00.32U_5.11.05.27. I've been keen to get into the Custom ROM world, so I recently rooted the device using Unrevoked 3 without any issues. I then installed Titanium Backup to get familiar with it, then ROM Manager after discovering that it would take a lot of the hassle out of flashing ROMS.
I used TB to do batch backup of 'all user apps + system data'. I then used RM to flash the latest ClockWork Recovery, then do a NANDroid backup of the current ROM (Stock Sense).
Then, I used RM to download CyanogenMod 7.0.3 and selected GApps also. I specified to wipe data and cache, then went ahead with flashing the new ROM.
The ROM flashed without issue and when it started I was asked for my Google account details, which I entered, then once I had enabled my wifi details, I downloaded all the Google apps.
Then I installed TB again and performed a 'Restore all apps with data'.
It was at this point I realised that my Contacts had not been restored, I only had a few from my SIM card showing. I thought that if I rebooted the device then the 600 other contacts would appear. I rebooted and then the device got stuck at the CyanogenMod splash screen for approx 20 mins. I rebooted into Recovery and reflashed my original stock ROM (making sure to clear data and cache) and was relieved to have the phone back the way it was. Once back in Sense, I exported all my Contacts to the SD card, for easier importing later.
I then tried to reflash CM7 again but was wary that the root cause of the earlier splash loop could've been either GApps or what I restored from TB. So I selected GApps to flash again, but this time at the startup screen giving you the option of which GApps to install, I selected none. I then attempted to download the ones I wanted from the Market. This worked ok but strangely Maps wouldn't download. I then went into TB and ran 'Restore missing apps + data', then 'Restore all system data' where I de-selected all the red items that appeared to be Sense-specific.
This gave a relatively ok setup, but when I rebooted to test its stability, it got caught in an indefinite splash screen loop again!
1. Can anyone point out where I'm going wrong?
2. Why didn't my contacts restore with TB?
3. What is the best backup and restore procedure to use with TB when switching between Sense and CM7?
4. What is the best method to use to install GApps?
Thanks in advance!
Did you do a full wipe in recovery before flashing the new rom - i.e. erase data/factory reset, erase cache, wipe battery stats?
Also I think restoring a "sense" Ti backup to a non sense rom is giving you the problem.
You have a nandroid of your original sense rom, right?
I think now it would work to do full wipe, restore your nandroid - and take care to backup your apps and data to your google account when going through the registration process. This should restore contacts, sms etc. later. Do Ti backup of user apps ONLY, and delete the previous Ti backup data from your sd card e.g. using root explorer.
OK, now full wipe again, reflash new rom and register - take care to leave checked both "backup" and "restore" from google account while registering. Now wait - most stuff should restore in 5-10 minutes from google servers. If not, reboot. If still not, restore user apps only via Ti backup.
I hope that works! As for gapps, not sure but isn't that another zip to flash? If so, you should do it after flashing the rom and rebooting at least once after running it.
Good luck!
No need to reflash Gapps.zip. It's included in the 7.0.3 stable release. (I know, I just flashed it last week) The prior releases required an additional flashing.
Agree with above poster. Always wipe those caches before re-flashing. Sometimes you can get away without doing it if going from 1 version ROM to another, but is best to wipe.
Also a good idea to flash update your recovery before flashing a new version ROM. Or at least on occasion.
EDIT: I use My Phone Explorer to Sync my contacts, calendar, sms, etc with Outlook. Or you can sync it with phone explorer's own app.
Thanks for the detailed responses guys.
I managed to fix it by downloading the latest zip files for CM7 and Gapps directly from the Cyanogen site and doing a manual install from ClockworkMod. Looks like ROM Installer probably wasn't getting compatible files. Oh and yes, I was always clearing the data and cache before each flash.
So, now I'm working through the incredible depths of CM, I'm sure more questions will be coming!