Hi,
I did a backup of my ROM with ROM Manager, because I wanted to try and see the new 2.3 Gingerbread Cyanogenmod7. All was fine and well, i went to backup ROM and it backed up or so I thought (-.-'). I went and copy the backup from my SD card to my computer just and just in case also made a copy of my contacts (thank god for that).
Then I installed the new C7 2.3 ROM via ROM Manager and it asked me if I want to backup the ROM (which i already did) and to wipe data/cache. I checked the wipe data/cache and went on with the boot and everything. The installation was successfull and the C7 is great, but then i wanted to go back to my Rooted HTC Sense ROM.
I went back to ROM Manager and went for recover ROMs and did a recovery. Went the phone booted all my files, applications, sms's and every little thing was deleted.
Now my question is this, how is that possible, i made a backup BEFORE checking the wipe data/cache ?
Is there a way to get my data back ?? I still have the backup on my computer.
Thanks for all the comments and help...
Hmm... you mean current message and contact is missing when you restored to 2.2?
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Yes messages, contacts and applications (for apps im not too worried).
And I've restored back to 2.1 !
I never went to froyo 2.2.
Hi folks... I'm fairly new to flashing ROM's (i know how to flash them and such) but I have a question about backups and restores of roms....I have searched and just dont see the exact wording im looking for.
Ok, So, I have clockwork, and rom manager and have done a backup of my rom.
Here is my question that isnt quite so clear to me.
When I flash a new rom, or say update one that I have where you have to wipe everything.... are these backups here to restore all of your programs and such to where you dont have to go back in and re-download everything when you have a new fresh rom installed.
Id love to try out a bunch of roms.. but I just hate having to go and re-download all of my programs each time I put a new one on... if that is how it has to be then so be it...
I just dont really know exactly what the backups im doing are for, or what they do.
Thanks for your help.
When I flash a new rom, or say update one that I have where you have to wipe everything.... are these backups here to restore all of your programs and such to where you dont have to go back in and re-download everything when you have a new fresh rom installed.
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Somewhat. A nandroid backup is a COMPLETE backup of your entire phone at the point you make the backup. All your apps, calls, texts, etc will be exactly like you made the backup. That's the beauty of nandroid backups, you can make one, try a new rom, and if you dont like it, restore your backup and there is no hassle re-installing apps and changing settings.
However, when you install a new rom, you have to wipe everything. So when flashing a new rom, you will not have anything, you will have to re-install your programs.
There are backup programs that will allow you to backup before a wipe and flash when installing a new ROM. You can then restore the user apps and data. You can also restore SOME system data but you have to be careful and it may be a trial and error process when restoring.
I use Titanium Backup. Some people also use MyBackup Root. I found that when I restored some of my apps with MyBackup they would Force Close when I tried to run them after a restore. That has not been the case with Titanium.
I have Titanium set to restore the apps to the original location. That way my apps restore to internal (DATA) or the the SD Card depending on where they were originally installed.
My process when I flash a new ROM:
- Backup all user apps + Data and System Data with Titanium.
- Nandroid Backup using Amon_RA
- Wipe System, Data, Dalvik and Cache
- Flash the ROM
- Reboot
- Create google account, etc.
- Install Titanium from the market.
- Restore user apps + data using titanium
You can also restore some system data. Depending on the ROM (and how different it was from the original) that can cause problems. If that happens go back to wipe and reflash the ROM again without restoring the system data.
I have had no problems restoring things like my SMS Messages and Call Logs. You can get into problems when you start restoring things like system settings or HTC Sense settings, etc.
Thank you both for the replies. This is exactly what i needed to know. I hope this thread helps others with similar questions.
There is one thing. CWM and ROM Manager have a history of not being reliable with backups.
Your best bet is to get Amon Ra and use that to make Nandroids.
4 I always have on my phone are my Stock/Rooted, my last ROM I was on, fully setup, my Current ROM, basic, before I restore and programs or apps/data, and my current ROM all setup.
If I flash a new ROM, I can just delete my older complete setup.
So, I have been having some major problems with my phone. Tons of force closes, major lag times and things like that. I have tried a handful of different ROMs, including CM7, the nightlys, Miui and a few others. I hear great stories about people and rooting and I want to be one of them. I am tired of all the hassles. So, when talking to someone in the office who has had no issues with his Droid 2, he suggested, and said he has read, the best thing to do is go back to stock, unroot, as they will remove all possible conflicting files that could be causing problems. Then, re-root, and install whatever.
Any thoughts on that? Generally, my process for installing a new ROM, I boot into recovery manually, clean cache, clean Dalvik, then install ROM. Then, I restore apps and data from Titanium and restore the Nandroid from Rom Manager. The past couple times, I have done the factory reset, but eventually, a day or 2, it goes back to the same problems. Maybe, I should just try it without the restoring the Nandroid (even though it is a backup from when there was no problems) and the app data from Titanium. I assume, you know what happens when you assume, that both the Nandroid and Titanium backups are clean as I backed up when I was having no issues.
So, any thoughts here? Unroot, then re-root or is there something else I should try to wipe everything clean to solve the problems? Currently, on the original Droid Incredible (got it on the release day, so the first screen), running 2.2 when I rooted, currently on Miui 1.9.16, but just installed it 10 minutes ago and was running the Cyanogen nightly's before hand..
Thanks in advance
When flashing a new ROM you should always do the following before flashing, especially if you're flashing completely different ROMs:
Wipe user data/factory reset
Mounts and Storage - format /system, format /boot, format /data, format /cache
Advanced - Wipe Dalvik, Wipe Battery Stats
Then flash the ROM zip.
Try not restoring apps and data from Titanium, as restoring the app is okay, but restoring data can cause unwanted things to happen more times than not.
When you say restore nandroid from ROM Manager, what do you mean here? A nandroid is backing up your ROM via ROM Manager, which gets stored to your clockworkmod/backups folder...you shouldn't be pulling anything from that...
If you flash the RUU to return to stock and re-root, make sure you use the 2.2 RUU. If you use the 2.3, you need to be s-off to get rooted again. If you use the 2.3 RUU and you're s-on, no root for you...come back one year.
The ONLY time you want to restore a nandroid backup is if you've wiped your device clean and want to return to a previously backed up setup. You should never restore a nandroid backup over a ROM you've just installed. If that's what you're doing, that's your problem. You're effectively replacing whatever ROM you just flashed in it's entirety.
As for Titanium, I restore apps with data all the time, but system data should almost never be restored as it's OS and app version specific. Basically, if it's green, it's safe. If it's red, don't mess with it. If it's white, like a user app, app and data are usually safe to restore.
ROM Manager is a bigger pain in the ass than it's worth and is useless for anything more than flashing a new recovery. If my recovery is working reliably, I never install ROM manager. Most devs will tell you to never flash with ROM manager anyways. Any function that ROM Manager performs can be performed in recovery in a safer, more reliable fashion.
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The ONLY time you want to restore a nandroid backup is if you've wiped your device clean and want to return to a previously backed up setup. You should never restore a nandroid backup over a ROM you've just installed. If that's what you're doing, that's your problem. You're effectively replacing whatever ROM you just flashed in it's entirety.
As for Titanium, I restore apps with data all the time, but system data should almost never be restored as it's OS and app version specific. Basically, if it's green, it's safe. If it's red, don't mess with it. If it's white, like a user app, app and data are usually safe to restore.
ROM Manager is a bigger pain in the ass than it's worth and is useless for anything more than flashing a new recovery. If my recovery is working reliably, I never install ROM manager. Most devs will tell you to never flash with ROM manager anyways. Any function that ROM Manager performs can be performed in recovery in a safer, more reliable fashion.
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Thanks for the correction, I forgot to put system in there...restoring system data is not good.
+1 on ROM Manager issues, always get a zip file of the ROM, and flash through recovery.
RMarkwald said:
When flashing a new ROM you should always do the following before flashing, especially if you're flashing completely different ROMs:
Wipe user data/factory reset
Mounts and Storage - format /system, format /boot, format /data, format /cache
Advanced - Wipe Dalvik, Wipe Battery Stats
Then flash the ROM zip.
When you say restore nandroid from ROM Manager, what do you mean here? A nandroid is backing up your ROM via ROM Manager, which gets stored to your clockworkmod/backups folder...you shouldn't be pulling anything from that....
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That is pretty much what I do, except for the Mounts and Storage parts.
For the Nandroid part, maybe I have my terminology mixed up. I do a restore from Rom Manager...which I thought was called the Nandroid backup. It seems to me, that it makes sure the launcher and things are set up right.
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The ONLY time you want to restore a nandroid backup is if you've wiped your device clean and want to return to a previously backed up setup. You should never restore a nandroid backup over a ROM you've just installed. If that's what you're doing, that's your problem. You're effectively replacing whatever ROM you just flashed in it's entirety.
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I rarely use the ROM Manager to do anything, just restore (what I thought was called the Nandroid) to make the launcher the way things were..
But it seems like that is my problem. I am installed the new ROM, then just restoring a back up of all the problems. DUH.. Guess I should try it all without restoring anything from the ROM Manager and see how it all works. That will be my project tonight..
Thanks
MikeDaub said:
That is pretty much what I do, except for the Mounts and Storage parts.
For the Nandroid part, maybe I have my terminology mixed up. I do a restore from Rom Manager...which I thought was called the Nandroid backup. It seems to me, that it makes sure the launcher and things are set up right.
I rarely use the ROM Manager to do anything, just restore (what I thought was called the Nandroid) to make the launcher the way things were..
But it seems like that is my problem. I am installed the new ROM, then just restoring a back up of all the problems. DUH.. Guess I should try it all without restoring anything from the ROM Manager and see how it all works. That will be my project tonight..
Thanks
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If you want to restore your launcher, try it through Titanium Backup. If that doesn't do it, and I can't promise you it will work correctly, you're probably SOL on restoring a launcher unless some other backup app does the job better.
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If you want to restore your launcher, try it through Titanium Backup. If that doesn't do it, and I can't promise you it will work correctly, you're probably SOL on restoring a launcher unless some other backup app does the job better.
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I am fine with not restoring it, I just thought "that is what you should do".
I don't venture too far from the regular settings, so it isn't a pain to do, just thought I should...
RMarkwald said:
When flashing a new ROM you should always do the following before flashing, especially if you're flashing completely different ROMs:
Wipe user data/factory reset
Mounts and Storage - format /system, format /boot, format /data, format /cache
Advanced - Wipe Dalvik, Wipe Battery Stats
Then flash the ROM zip.
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One more quick question since I am thinking of it....is this same process if doing nightly updates from Cyanogen, or just is I change from say, Cyanogen to Miui or something??
Thanks again for all the help..
MikeDaub said:
One more quick question since I am thinking of it....is this same process if doing nightly updates from Cyanogen, or just is I change from say, Cyanogen to Miui or something??
Thanks again for all the help..
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Generally, CM nightlies can be flashed over top of each other without a wipe since the vast majority of the code is identical. However, if an issue crops up, a wipe and flash might be a good thing to try. Probably won't help though, since nightlies, by definition, are experimental.
Always wipe and flash when moving from one ROM type to another.
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Generally, CM nightlies can be flashed over top of each other without a wipe since the vast majority of the code is identical. However, if an issue crops up, a wipe and flash might be a good thing to try. Probably won't help though, since nightlies, by definition, are experimental.
Always wipe and flash when moving from one ROM type to another.
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That's kinda what I figured, but I thought it was worth asking so I don't completely wipe the whole thing every time I install an update. The nightly I am on now seems to be working, so the new plan is keep whats working until it doesn't work anymore, or some major update comes along..
Thanks again for the help. I really appreciate it.
If the issue continues you can try copying everything off of your SD card to your PC and reformatting your SD card. Remember to use FAT32 format. Then copy everything back to your SD card. I've read threads were this helped the force close issues for many people - Just a thought.
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If the issue continues you can try copying everything off of your SD card to your PC and reformatting your SD card. Remember to use FAT32 format. Then copy everything back to your SD card. I've read threads were this helped the force close issues for many people - Just a thought.
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Certainly worth a thought. The card that is in it now came from a different phone. I am pretty sure I formatted it when I first plugged it in, but it can't hurt to try...
Thanks
Hello all.
I have had my DHD for over a year now and I rooted it as soon as I could. My reasons for rooting were to remove some of the stock installed apps (facebook, stocks etc). After a year though now my phone is jammed full of crap so i want to do a factory reset and wipe the phone clean and start from scratch. Am I able to do this having rooted?
Once I have cleaned the phone (by whatever means) i will be looking into the customs roms to try and change the look and feel of my phone for hopefully another happy year with my DHD.
Thanks in advance
Craig
Anyone able to help?
You have a lot of ways to do that...
one of them is to backup your apps and contacts and go to recovery, then wipe the phone and reinstall last rom or other roms...
my idea is to change your rom and try someone else...
and enjoy you phone...
so finally:
do a backup, go to recovery, do a wipe ( you can use android revelotion super wipe), reinstall rom or try another rom, and finally...enjoy...
Merry Christmas buddy...
A few things that I do.
Check out some rom screenshots and threads to see which roms interest you.
Backup your current APN to your sdcard with APN Backup & Restore so you can restore it with future roms. (So that you can make sure you are using the correct login/password etc. to connect to your carrier's data network.)
Make sure that APN Backup & Restore's apk is also on your sdcard so that you can install it from your card and not the Android Market.
Get Rom Manager on your phone so that you can easily reboot into recovery when you are ready to flash a new rom.
Make sure you have the new rom on your SD card waiting to be flashed.
Then when you are ready, reboot into recovery with Rom Manager.
Then once in ClockworkMod Recovery choose wipe data/factory reset and do that.
Then in advanced - wipe dalvik cache and then wipe battery stats.
(Then in mounts and storage - I also format system.)
Then install zip from sdcard - choose zip from sdcard - choose rom file and flash away.
Be patient as the first boot up from flashing a rom can take a long time.
Once it boots up - disable data. Install APN Backup & Restore from your sdcard. Then delete the APNs that come with the new rom. Restore your original carrier APN from the backup you made. Then you can connect to the net with the correct settings and not get charged for the wrong data connection regardless of your contract. (I admit I'm sensitive to this, as it cost me a $1000 in data fees a few years ago here in Japan with Windows Mobile and SoftBank when I flashed and used the wrong APN regardless of my unlimited packet contract.)
Anyway, these are things I do which you might consider.
I don't usually lose root doing the sequence above.
Of course read the rom thread main pages to see if anything special applies.
Good luck. There are a few rom screenshots in my sig. I currently use MIUIAndroid. (It's updated every week.)
Good luck.
ps. You might want to format your sdcard before you do any of the above too, just to really clean things up. Don't forget to backup your data to your PC or something if you do.
Sorry - I didn't see the post above this one..
miladhalibak said:
You have a lot of ways to do that...
one of them is to backup your apps and contacts and go to recovery, then wipe the phone and reinstall last rom or other roms...
my idea is to change your rom and try someone else...
and enjoy you phone...
so finally:
do a backup, go to recovery, do a wipe ( you can use android revelotion super wipe), reinstall rom or try another rom, and finally...enjoy...
Merry Christmas buddy...
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Thanks for the info. I first formatted the SD, then backed up contacts, sms and apps. What do I press when I boot into recovery?
Once i have perforformed the wipe am I able to to the reload my stock ROM before i look into flashing a custom one?
Grant Barker said:
A few things that I do.
Check out some rom screenshots and threads to see which roms interest you.
Backup your current APN to your sdcard with APN Backup & Restore so you can restore it with future roms. (So that you can make sure you are using the correct login/password etc. to connect to your carrier's data network.)
Make sure that APN Backup & Restore's apk is also on your sdcard so that you can install it from your card and not the Android Market.
Get Rom Manager on your phone so that you can easily reboot into recovery when you are ready to flash a new rom.
Make sure you have the new rom on your SD card waiting to be flashed.
Then when you are ready, reboot into recovery with Rom Manager.
Then once in ClockworkMod Recovery choose wipe data/factory reset and do that.
Then in advanced - wipe dalvik cache and then wipe battery stats.
(Then in mounts and storage - I also format system.)
Then install zip from sdcard - choose zip from sdcard - choose rom file and flash away.
Be patient as the first boot up from flashing a rom can take a long time.
Once it boots up - disable data. Install APN Backup & Restore from your sdcard. Then delete the APNs that come with the new rom. Restore your original carrier APN from the backup you made. Then you can connect to the net with the correct settings and not get charged for the wrong data connection regardless of your contract. (I admit I'm sensitive to this, as it cost me a $1000 in data fees a few years ago here in Japan with Windows Mobile and SoftBank when I flashed and used the wrong APN regardless of my unlimited packet contract.)
Anyway, these are things I do which you might consider.
I don't usually lose root doing the sequence above.
Of course read the rom thread main pages to see if anything special applies.
Good luck. There are a few rom screenshots in my sig. I currently use MIUIAndroid. (It's updated every week.)
Good luck.
ps. You might want to format your sdcard before you do any of the above too, just to really clean things up. Don't forget to backup your data to your PC or something if you do.
Sorry - I didn't see the post above this one..
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I will make sure I back up my APN then also. Anything else worth backing up?
I have had a look at the screenshots shown on your site, that helped thanks, but as said before, am i able to reload the stock rom, basically return to where i am now, but with a blank canvas?
Thanks again
Any pointers?
I can't remember but I think a simple factory reset via your current original rom will give you the blank canvas you want, but I think you'll lose root.
Someone else please confirm this or not? Do we lose root by doing a simple factory reset?
If that's the case and you don't mind losing root (until you root again) and you want the original rom you currently have then just do a factory reset via phone settings. The other stuff in the other post is for if you are changing rom completely. If you are going to use the same original rom you use now which came with your phone, then the APN settings will be the same and will be there again after you reset.
No you will not lose root!
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so, I loaded CM 10.2.0-RC1 on top of CM10.1.3 and I tried it with a dirty flash and that didn't go so well. I did load GAPPS 4.3 as well and every Google app just crashed and when I connected to Play Store it would error every time I tried to download updates.
So then I tried it with a wipe of data and cache and no more app crashes and the Store worked fine but none of my previously installed apps restored to the phone. Is that a common experience or did I miss a step?
Forgot to use titanium backup to save them. Or it could be that you went ot fast when you installed and forgot to check the restore applicaiton setting first time you booted. AFAIK you're screwed.
So, after a clean flash, there are 2 ways of getting back the apps you had before...
1) Flash CM AND gapps before you boot for the first time. Make sure you use the right gapps. There is a chart here. The right one for CM 10.2 is gapps 20130813. Once booted, check to restore apps and settings right after you enter your google account info. This will start the lengthy process to install your apps. This will not restore your app data, only your apps.
2) better way IMHO: Do above, but uncheck restore apps and data. Use Titanium backup to restore your apps and data.
TIP: If you don't already have a Titanium backup of all your apps, flash back to your original ROM, install Titanium Backup Pro, and do a backup to your SD card. It is also advised to update all your apps via the market before doing the titanium backup on your original ROM. Hope this helps.
I just went from 10.0.0 to 10.2. I found that the 11/27 nightly worked better for me than RC1. PM me if you have any more questions.