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What happens if you get the Froyo 2.2 update?

If one of us happens to get the update, and want to keep root....what do you want us to do with the update?

Don't install it. I'm not sure how to do that with an Android device.
However if it does get installed you will lose root. It could also cause some problems if it gets pushed to your phone.
The devs will have a rooted version of the rom before they will have a root method for the rom.

I think it is safe to say, if you want to keep Root, ignore the update prompt, and wait for the developers here to make rooted versions of the ROM.
The original firmware was rooted before the phone came out. (I don't know how long it took developers to actually Root the phone, since I don't know how long they had the developers release in their hands).
When the 1.47 OTA came out, it broke root, and became a mad scramble to try to re-root the phone. If I remember right, it took a couple weeks to find the workaround that would allow root.
It is a good bet that the new release WILL break root again, and there is no telling how long it will be before it can be rooted again, if ever.

is this a serious question? most updates will remove all hacked/homebrew stuff been hapning since the begining of time.......(i.e. PSP, Nintendo Wii, iPhone/touch......)just dont update...take this stuff to yahoo answers.

Rocklee99 said:
If one of us happens to get the update, and want to keep root....what do you want us to do with the update?
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Update lose root. Period. Just wait.

ohh geez, be prepared for all of the topics like "just updated to sprints official froyo update and lost root can i root it back?" my gawd its gonna get annoying

i guess this is a noob question, but how long does it take to get a rooted stock rome of this 2.2? i would assume not too long correct?

usually same day.. its all about patience which there is little of.. i can guarantee you will have a stock rooted rom by this weeks end

Once on 2.2, no root....

What's the best way to get rooted. I've tried te avalauncher way, they tell me I have to be rooted to use it. I've tried the simple root OTA, but when it's suppose to take you to factory restore, my phone goes to a backup/restore screen, so it fails cause I can't restore it. Please give me assistance.
I am running 2.2 from a manual install. No root.

You have to wait until the guys here find a way for p eople to root once they have 2.2 . That could take anywhere from a few days to a few weeks

Most likely you are NOT going to be able to root since you ran the OTA update for 2.2....
That is why you should read what you are flashing and know the consequences prior to doing so. Every thread that contained the download for the 2.2 leak said that it will make you lose root and the ability ( for now ) to gain root status.
You need to wait until one of the geniuses figure out a way to do it.
Sorry about your luck.

The best way is toast method...
Good luck!
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UND3RTAK3R said:
The best way is toast method...you can email me if you have any problems [email protected]
Good luck!
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Not gonna work since he used the 2.2 update man.

EVOme said:
What's the best way to get rooted. I've tried te avalauncher way, they tell me I have to be rooted to use it. I've tried the simple root OTA, but when it's suppose to take you to factory restore, my phone goes to a backup/restore screen, so it fails cause I can't restore it. Please give me assistance.
I am running 2.2 from a manual install. No root.
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1. wrong forum, should be in Q&A
2. if you did the manual update from Sprint, you will have to wait until the devs here create a root method for stock 2.2 is developed. Any existing root method will not work at all.

EVOme said:
What's the best way to get rooted. I've tried te avalauncher way, they tell me I have to be rooted to use it. I've tried the simple root OTA, but when it's suppose to take you to factory restore, my phone goes to a backup/restore screen, so it fails cause I can't restore it. Please give me assistance.
I am running 2.2 from a manual install. No root.
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You installed the plain OTA update? The one that says "not rooted yet" on the thread title?
For each new update, HTC tries to protect its software from being rooted. The last update required users to exploit a Flash Lite vulnerability and took a while. You will probably have to wait a long time before you can root this, since it doesn't have Flash Lite.
For future reference, root first THEN update to a rooted rom released by our devs. You can't just install Ava's rom on top of stock 2.2, it prevents you from doing so.

I'm sorry but HOW MANY posts were there saying if you want to keep root, DO NOT INSTALL THE UPDATE?? Ugh...
And yes I know this isn't constructive but sometimes people just need a slap on the back if the head.
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I'm in the same boat. After trying hard to resist the urge, I gave in and installed the leak. After finding the rooted version, I tried to use the 1.47 RUU to go back but it error-ed out. I'm so bummed I can't go back. Oh well; I knew the risk I was taking though so I guess I have to live with it...

Hours my my day wasted....HOURS!!!
Where's my AR-15

Wow, just wow.

I just had a thought: If there is no method for rooting yet, then how are the stock roms being rooted?

Here we go again
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bludragon742 said:
I just had a thought: If there is no method for rooting yet, then how are the stock roms being rooted?
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By digging thru it and finding an exploit.
Which will most likely happen for the 2.2 update as well, just not as of yet.

bludragon742 said:
I just had a thought: If there is no method for rooting yet, then how are the stock roms being rooted?
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With a ROM, you can run through the zip file and essentially take out the parts that would remove root and modify as you see fit to put on an already rooted device -- the device isn't running all the security checks on the ROM, since it's already been rooted to remove those. Much easier, almost trivial.
If you have a non-rooted device, though, you have to find a way to get the device, not the ROM, rooted. The device isn't going to take an unofficial ROM. Big difference, since you have to exploit something already on the device somehow. With the last OTA update, it was Flash Lite that could be exploited for root access to the device. With this one, no one has found a method to root the device once the OTA has been applied (and probably won't really try that hard until the official version is released, in case it closes any exploits that are in the version floating around now).

xeno314 said:
With a ROM, you can run through the zip file and essentially take out the parts that would remove root and modify as you see fit to put on an already rooted device -- the device isn't running all the security checks on the ROM, since it's already been rooted to remove those. Much easier, almost trivial.
If you have a non-rooted device, though, you have to find a way to get the device, not the ROM, rooted. The device isn't going to take an unofficial ROM. Big difference, since you have to exploit something already on the device somehow. With the last OTA update, it was Flash Lite that could be exploited for root access to the device. With this one, no one has found a method to root the device once the OTA has been applied (and probably won't really try that hard until the official version is released, in case it closes any exploits that are in the version floating around now).
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Beat me to it and said it better.

bludragon742 said:
I'm in the same boat. After trying hard to resist the urge, I gave in and installed the leak. After finding the rooted version, I tried to use the 1.47 RUU to go back but it error-ed out. I'm so bummed I can't go back. Oh well; I knew the risk I was taking though so I guess I have to live with it...
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I have no idea how it was "hard to resist" when AVA's rooted version showed up at 5:30pm and netarchy's showed up around 9pm. They showed up before any official sprint OTA. Lets also not forget the hundreds of posts warning people that this would happen.
bludragon742 said:
I just had a thought: If there is no method for rooting yet, then how are the stock roms being rooted?
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The "rooting method" allows you to get into restricted areas of the phone to install stuff. The act of rooting is breaking into the phone itself, not into the rom. The rom itself is fully accessable and can be hacked up, its just getting it onto the phone is the hard part.
Essentially your phone, stock, is a box that's locked from the inside. For older versions people figured out how to unlock it, so that you can put any hacked up rom onto it. The new OTA, no one knows how to get in yet.
Don't know if that makes sense. It's pretty easy to understand if you understand OS permissions.
EDIT: what the other guy said.

bludragon742 said:
I just had a thought: If there is no method for rooting yet, then how are the stock roms being rooted?
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Because someone takes the CONTENT of the update, and applies it piece-by-piece to an already rooted image, ignoring the bits that replace HBOOT and etc.

Mad06STi said:
I have no idea how it was "hard to resist" when AVA's rooted version showed up at 5:30pm and netarchy's showed up around 9pm. .
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I'll tell you why. The thread gets to 200 pages. There are people saying it works, sucks, bricks, awesome, hate it, stay away, success, etc. After reading 40 pages of it you have no idea up from down. Speaking from someone that is not familiar with Android rooting. It's frustrating. Then you go to one of the other 50 threads and it's all the same.
I never saw anywhere that if I installed the leak i'd be screwed. I'm fine with that though. I have 2.2 and can wait. Just annoyed i've spent hours of my day on this.

This thread was a funny read.
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A root for those that did the OTA....?

What's the odds of us being able to root anytime soon? Now that 2.2 is here, i'd like to gain SU.
Thanks.

A few weeks and someone will come out with a root. Just be patient and stop accepting ota's.
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I guess the all capital and bold text telling you not to install the update and to wait for a rooted version wasn't clear enough

EVOme said:
What's the odds of us being able to root anytime soon? Now that 2.2 is here, i'd like to gain SU.
Thanks.
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If you've already done it, I wouldn't expect anyone to start working on it until the official release. After they start and given that one of the current exploits can be easily modified to work with the Froyo builds, then it might take a week. Its always fun to see how fast hackers can come up with the root hack.

Got a response when I asked unrevoked and they will begin working on it when the Official OTA is available tomorrow - or earlier if they get another leak like last time.

Thanks for the info

Will there be an effort to Root HTC 2.2?

[Q] How to Root Evo 3.26.651.3
Hi,
I'm stuck on the leaked Froyo update, had tried simple root and unrevoked and not luck, does anybody knows how to root HTC EVo 4G Froyo 2.2
software version 3.26.651.3 (beginer here)

Not possible on that version yet.

for now their is nothing you can do untill either HTC sends an OTA update to allow you to get the newest OTS Update or untill someone figures out a new root method for 2.2

God forbid a question go in the Q&A Forum.

Maybe you can flash a stock previous OTA (the 1.76 one) then try simple root? Maybe you can install 2.2 rooted after that?

There is another forum post that says you can go to the sprint store and they will downgrade you to 1.47 as long as you have .3. I am going to go try to do this today and then try to root after.

Is there enough demand for someone to develop a root for the new Froyo on the Evo?
I wonder if everyone who wanted to be rooted did not update on the OTA Froyo.
I did not see any reason to root when it seemed that all the roms had issues before the update.

texasez said:
Is there enough demand for someone to develop a root for the new Froyo on the Evo?
I wonder if everyone who wanted to be rooted did not update on the OTA Froyo.
I did not see any reason to root when it seemed that all the roms had issues before the update.
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It is not a question on will there be people trying to do this. I am sure a lot of the devs are. The question is will they be able to find an exploit to be able to.

dwertz said:
It is not a question on will there be people trying to do this. I am sure a lot of the devs are. The question is will they be able to find an exploit to be able to.
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There just does not seem to be any urgency to root Froyo. I see not mention in any of the forums I monitor.

texasez said:
Is there enough demand for someone to develop a root for the new Froyo on the Evo?
I wonder if everyone who wanted to be rooted did not update on the OTA Froyo.
I did not see any reason to root when it seemed that all the roms had issues before the update.
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????????????????????? uh What?
Q - Is there enough demand for someone to develop a root for the new Froyo on the Evo?
A - Of Course... really doesn't even need to be asked
Q - I wonder if everyone who wanted to be rooted did not update on the OTA Froyo.
A - Everyone that wanted to be rooted, were rooted, and probably upgraded to the rooted .3 pre-release and then upgraded to the rooted .6 final release
Q - I did not see any reason to root when it seemed that all the roms had issues before the update
A- What? You can root without flashing a rom... Why? Many reasons of which one is to be able to tether without paying Sprint a stupid fee for using the wifi router which doesn't need a custom rom.
But I don't quite know what you mean by "all" the roms had problems.... Simply not true, Most of the roms are and have been nothing more than stock roms with root access, with Sprint crap removed or mabey small changes in icons, lock screens, or rosies. The only time people start having issues in when you get into overclocking and changing kernels for reasons like higher fps's or 5 point multitouch. I have been running 2.1 roms with nothing broken or not working and 2.2 roms (.3 and .6) with everything working fine(4g, wifi tether, fps fix, overclocked, 5 point multitouch, etc)
The only people at this point that are waiting for a 2.2 root are the people that were too stupid impatient to wait 2 hrs before the .3 was rooted and reverted to stock to flash the pre-release 2.2 or people that updated first before realizing how much nicer it is to have a rooted phone.
Everyday new EVO owners are bringing there new phones home by the thousands and getting online trying to see how they can get root. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to find out that the devs here have found a way to root a new 2.2 EVO before you even read this.

The Unrevoked team is working on it, but they don't have real root in the first place.

Riptide9 said:
????????????????????? uh What?
Q - Is there enough demand for someone to develop a root for the new Froyo on the Evo?
A - Of Course... really doesn't even need to be asked
Q - I wonder if everyone who wanted to be rooted did not update on the OTA Froyo.
A - Everyone that wanted to be rooted, were rooted, and probably upgraded to the rooted .3 pre-release and then upgraded to the rooted .6 final release
Q - I did not see any reason to root when it seemed that all the roms had issues before the update
A- What? You can root without flashing a rom... Why? Many reasons of which one is to be able to tether without paying Sprint a stupid fee for using the wifi router which doesn't need a custom rom.
But I don't quite know what you mean by "all" the roms had problems.... Simply not true.........
.....Everyday new EVO owners are bringing there new phones home by the thousands and getting online trying to see how they can get root. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to find out that the devs here have found a way to root a new 2.2 EVO before you even read this.
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+1 Exactly

Its only been out for 5 days calm down. Im pretty sure the devs chat with each other through im and what not. as well i rather see them working on a root process then posting on here. if you want root then you should of not updated if you had no choice because you got the phone after the 31st - 1st then your sol right now

Two wrongs don't make a right....
OP....be patient young grasshopper....

Don't see no reason why not. It's an open source OS it's only a matter of time for a dev to find a way. Let's just hope for all of your guys that are not rooted or decided to un root to get 2.2, it's sooner rather than later.
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I am willing to test it when it come out. It's only a phone.

I noticed something interesting when I stopped by the Sprint store yesterday.
There was an older gentleman there purchasing an Evo. I felt a little sad because I knew that poor phone would never get hax'd. The manager instructed the sales person to charge the phone and make sure to run the update after activation.
My guess is that the majority of Evos from this point on will come with Froyo, so I'm sure there will be an effort to root.

I would like to see a one step method to root that has a hundred pages of "Thank You" rather that the hundred pages of problems and explanations I see now.

texasez said:
I would like to see a one step method to root that has a hundred pages of "Thank You" rather that the hundred pages of problems and explanations I see now.
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then do it yourself.

Did it work? Did they downgrade you?

[Q] Temproot via Visionary+ on 2.3.3 (the new OTA update)

Been trying to temp root a few installed HTC desire HD with the new OTA 2.3.3 update but during the temp root process the icon goes yellow then it just sits on a black screen (with just the task bar up on top showing) for 20+ mins. and root does not happen.
I tried this while connected via usb (with the app installed visionary+ v14) with usb developer mode on or what ever it's called .. even tried re-starting and re-trying to no avail.. did they "patch" it in the latest update?
*edit fixed typo from 2.2.3 to 2.3.3 =P

You need to downgrade first...
I don't know if this method is still working with Gingerbread, but it was with Froyo and the Visionary symptoms were the same...
Try following this : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905003

nicoboum said:
You need to downgrade first...
I don't know if this method is still working with Gingerbread, but it was with Froyo and the Visionary symptoms were the same...
Try following this : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905003
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(ty for your reply)
Ugg, ya I figured if I downgraded I could.. but I would really like to keep this OTA update few things I liked about it and as the phone is pretty much new I want to keep it as close to stock as possible... no one heard of any new exploits/updates that could allow temp root on the new OTA yet?

neijek said:
(ty for your reply)
Ugg, ya I figured if I downgraded I could.. but I would really like to keep this OTA update few things I liked about it and as the phone is pretty much new I want to keep it as close to stock as possible... no one heard of any new exploits/updates that could allow temp root on the new OTA yet?
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If you look in the development section you will find several ROM's that are very close to stock such as LeeDroid and there's even a one GB ROM that is has been rooted and pretty much nothing added.
There's no reason for you not to downgrade as you can upgrade again with a near as damn it customised GB ROM.

Revolution HD is great
I never tried any other rom (yes I'm an Android noob !), but I don't feel like it, i'm happy with Revolution.
It's exactly like stock, only smoother with better battery life and root.
I hesitated a long time before I installed a custom ROM on my DHD, waiting was a waste of time. Custom ROM are WAY better (in my opinion). Just remember to reade a lot of topics before, in order to know where you're going, what kind of problems you could face, and how to solve them. There's a lot of stuff and it all looks hard to get at first, but in the end it's not that hard.
Good luck, have fun
(I apologize for any english mistakes I could have made)

neijek said:
(ty for your reply)
Ugg, ya I figured if I downgraded I could.. but I would really like to keep this OTA update few things I liked about it and as the phone is pretty much new I want to keep it as close to stock as possible... no one heard of any new exploits/updates that could allow temp root on the new OTA yet?
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If you want your things backed up use Mybackup from the market. Also once you go down the rooting lane eventually you will install a custom ROM which is way better than stock. Try it for yourself and see the difference..

neijek said:
Ugg, ya I figured if I downgraded I could.. but I would really like to keep this OTA update few things I liked about it and as the phone is pretty much new I want to keep it as close to stock as possible... no one heard of any new exploits/updates that could allow temp root on the new OTA yet?
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right now to get root for 2.3.3, u need to be downgrade first. anyway, in the dev corner, they have 2.3.3 stock but rooted.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1059563
that is for 2.3.3 but your thread title mention 2.2.3, so don't know its a typo or u still prefer running on Froyo

Current ROM
Install a current ROM

neijek said:
(ty for your reply)
Ugg, ya I figured if I downgraded I could.. but I would really like to keep this OTA update few things I liked about it and as the phone is pretty much new I want to keep it as close to stock as possible... no one heard of any new exploits/updates that could allow temp root on the new OTA yet?
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before updating to the gingerbread u first have to do radio s-off. other wise u r unable to get root on it. i have installed leaked version for my phn. i also didnt know that, struggle hard to find and solve problem to dwngrade my phn. did it successfully, now i m running my phn with gingerbread fully root with gingearbreak 1.20 version.

thanks for all these amazing and quick replies ... I used to own a htc polaris and i always used custom roms.. my main issue is this, this is a company phone (it's mine.. but if there are ever issues with it i have a full warranty (even if i break it). Thus i wanted to achieve a temproot, just to freeze bloatware but not leave any "permanent" marks on the phone which if sent in for warranty would void it.
Eventually i will toss custom roms on it for sure, but since it's only 2 weeks out of the box i'd rather save it like this, at least for the first year.. if only there was a easy way to just freeze all that "crap" and not mod it with s-off or what not then i'd be so happy..
Unless s-off and such can be reverted and i can then work my way back .. but the problem is.. if i break it, and can't then "re-eable" s-on and so on and they see it they will not pay for the "fix" they are assses about it here in italy..

one of the main reasons i switched was for SIP calling (got a new data plan) .. if i go ahead with s-off / custom rom and all.. can I revert back in case i ever need to send it in for repair or .. does it leave traces?

I had the very same issue on my Desire HD 2.3