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Before going to Official Froyo, think about this...

Yes, I understand the Official Froyo maybe more stable since it's more updated and complete than the leaked Froyo in custom ROM. But really is it worth the upgrade?? What I mean, when you upgrade to official froyo you will loose your root, and possibly a new updated radio that would maybe need "Paul" time to hack again. Without the root, it may not be possible to change to different ROM. I am pretty sure, once those official FROYO is out...there would be lots of different custom ROM MOD based on Official FROYO available?? Also looking at my past experience with HTC, once this official 2.2 update is available, they wont update very often anymore. It maybe better to stay with custom ROM since those cooks tend to get newer system kernel somewhere. I guess for me, even if the update is out, I will just wait out till someone make new custom ROM based on this official FROYO? cheer...that's just my opinion.

^^^what he said^^^^ +1

Most, if not all people will be waiting for a rooted version. I'll be amazed if people unroot just to get it, when it'll be modded in no time. The test release by udk is a prime example.
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kuailan said:
Yes, I understand the Official Froyo maybe more stable since it's more updated and complete than the leaked Froyo in custom ROM. But really is it worth the upgrade?? What I mean, when you upgrade to official froyo you will loose your root, and possibly a new updated radio that would maybe need "Paul" time to hack again. Without the root, it may not be possible to change to different ROM. I am pretty sure, once those official FROYO is out...there would be lots of different custom ROM MOD based on Official FROYO available?? Also looking at my past experience with HTC, once this official 2.2 update is available, they wont update very often anymore. It maybe better to stay with custom ROM since those cooks tend to get newer system kernel somewhere. I guess for me, even if the update is out, I will just wait out till someone make new custom ROM based on this official FROYO? cheer...that's just my opinion.
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Gingerbread

Agree with the original poster's sentiments. Also worth considering that this could very easily be the last major update for HTC to roll out to the Desire. There's already a newer generation of devices out and HTC have no incentive to keep us at the leading edge. I got a clear taste of this with my previous HTC Magic - dropped by Vodafone like an unwanted toy once they started selling newer devices. Thankfully it was completely unlocked and I could flash all the custom ROMs on that which I liked but since it was a 32B if I had gone official and somehow ended up there I'd have been left behind at 1.6.

I "upgraded" from Hero (which I liked pretty much) to Desire about a month ago, and it's still unrooted. I rooted and installed a custom ROM to my Hero (a couple of weeks before the official 2.1 came out) and I was far from impressed. It became slow and laggy, the available RAM was way below than on the original 1.5 etc. I assume that I should've try other ROMs as well but at a certain point I just got tired so I switched to Desire. I love the way it is. It's fast, responsive and I enjoy all the possibilities of the hardware. I can even impress my iPhone friends with a little smile on my face.
The guy I sold my Hero just updated to the official OTA 2.1 a couple of days ago. Guess what? It's flying! I wouldn't believe it if I couldn't see with my own eyes.
I love what you guys do here. I really do. I'm amazed and impressed with all the work and effort you put in these custom ROMs. I'm reading all the interesting threads, tips, tricks etc. It's good to have a place like this board. It's good to have full control over our handsets, install software others can't. But I kinda like the way HTC puts together and tests its ROMs even if it's bloated with stuff I'll never use. I'll check for updates every hour this weekend Cos I'm eager to try all the new features. Maybe later I'll switch to a custom ROM which is based on the official, but for now I'm focusing on the "Check now" button

even though it hurts to say so.. but I agree

kuailan said:
Yes, I understand the Official Froyo maybe more stable since it's more updated and complete than the leaked Froyo in custom ROM. But really is it worth the upgrade?? What I mean, when you upgrade to official froyo you will loose your root, and possibly a new updated radio that would maybe need "Paul" time to hack again. Without the root, it may not be possible to change to different ROM. I am pretty sure, once those official FROYO is out...there would be lots of different custom ROM MOD based on Official FROYO available?? Also looking at my past experience with HTC, once this official 2.2 update is available, they wont update very often anymore. It maybe better to stay with custom ROM since those cooks tend to get newer system kernel somewhere. I guess for me, even if the update is out, I will just wait out till someone make new custom ROM based on this official FROYO? cheer...that's just my opinion.
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8 chara

Why would it not possible to root back after unrooting? Since rooting is now riskfree...

What I would like is a standard final realease, rooted and A2SD+'ed, thats it, no other mod`s.

as long as froyo doesn't modify the hboot to a new version, you can always rollback and unroot.

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Why would it not possible to root back after unrooting? Since rooting is now riskfree...
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Because the leaked froyo came with a new HBOOT (which was removed by devs here) which at the moment is unrootable. And may be unrootable forever!
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coercri said:
What I would like is a standard final realease, rooted and A2SD+'ed, thats it, no other mod`s.
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Me too
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coercri said:
What I would like is a standard final realease, rooted and A2SD+'ed, thats it, no other mod`s.
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Agreed, I finally took the plunge to root and A2SD, the latter of which is amazing Is it really too much to ask for, just to install apps on the SD?

I will wait for Froyo Official-based custom ROMS!

macacao said:
Me too
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That would be perfect..! And wake phone with the select button.

I was near to unroot and and go back to the normal rom. But now not anymore after what u guys said. Thx.
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So if someone buy a HTC desire after the update he may not be able to get root ever. Lucky us!
Sent from my HTC Desire using my fingers.

I highly doubt no one is ever going to be able to root if they officially upgrade to 2.2. It will happen, it might just take a while that's all for Paul and co. to do it..

I think that all of you that says that the new Hboot could not be hacked, underestimate many very very skilled peoples knowledge. Just because it isn't cracked now, it not equal to *incrackable*.
I am very certain that it will be cracked or something else and then root access can be achieved again.

[Q] stock desire update? 2.13.707.1?

has anyone got this?
when i check on my fone it says no updates
any info on the change log?

From the HTC website:
HTC said:
Update: Android 2.2 and HTC Sense update.
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So, potentially this could be the update to bring Sense in-line with the HD interface? (Just hypothesising, I have no evidence!)
I haven't got this update showing on my phone either. (Yet! ;-) )
EDIT: Just noticed that that info is only on the South-East Asia version of HTC.com, so it could be a local firmware variation (I hope not!).

http://shipped-roms.com/download.ph...00.32U_5.09.05.30_2_release_143921_signed.exe
No new Sense, just stock FroYo update
What software version are you on now?

EddyOS said:
http://shipped-roms.com/download.ph...00.32U_5.09.05.30_2_release_143921_signed.exe
No new Sense, just stock FroYo update
What software version are you on now?
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hi there
whats the differences?if any
im on 2.09.405.8 CL218634 release-keys

You're unbranded so you can't use that anyway. There'd be no differences, though - it's just released later than your one (although there is now 2.10.405.2 and 2.29.405.2)
Did you debrand your Desire or has it always been on that version?

always been like that
i updated to froyo using the update.zip method a few months ago
okay so theres nothing new in this update

Get this one then as well...
http://fotadl.htc.com/OTA_Bravo_HTC_EU_2.10.405.2-2.09.405.8_releaseol2djq7rqarka2ka.zip
It's not that there's nothing new per se, it's just not relevent to your unit - you can only update to x.xx.405.x

I wish there were proper changelogs so we can see a reason to upgrade or not sometimes

Well, 2.29.405.2 has the RIL update to work with the radio I'm guessing. It's a very solid ROM and I'm happy with it at present

[Q]Upgrading DEFY on Vanilla Android

Hi..
Defy is going to be launched here in India most probably w/o MOTOBLUR.
It's going to be on 2.1 Eclair.
Can anyone tell me if (and how) can it be upgraded to a higher firmware?

Here's no 100% working 2.2 for defy, but as i see, the work is still in progress.

Thank You Friend.

Defy ICS?

Hey all,
Rumour is that handsets with 2.3.3+ will eventually go to ICS.
Do you think this will include Defy+ ?
Kind regards

Only one Word: Motorola

It is very likely but it will b a long time before that happens
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Well yes, the main issue could be *Motorola*
Even the new RAZR is looking at Q1 2012 for ICS.
Well right now the Defy i have now with Walter's Defy+ stock rom will have to suffice

It is a possibility unless there is a Defy++ in the making.
Sent from Android 2.3.7

does it really matter whether there will be an official or not? the cyanogen team will start working on cm9 (ics) as soon as the source is available, which will probably happen in a few weeks. and since the defy is officially supported (and all devices capable of running gb will be able to run ics), we will get official cm9. the question is, with which kernel, because as long as the bootloader is locked, we will have to stick to froyo kernel. no idea how that effects things... :/
sent from my cm7.1 defy...

Motorola RAZR will be the
first phone to incorporate Motorola’s
new bootloader solution. http://ausdroid.net/2011/10/21/motorola-razr-to-be-unlockable/
"Motorola. said they
were working on a bootloader solution that would allow
the unlocking and re-locking of the bootloaders on their
phones later this year. "
So there's still hope for defy/+'s bootloader .

Well, unlocking the Bootloader.
But I think the Defy won't have ICS, due to the old kernel.
just thinking.

As far as trusting Motorola for updates, I wouldn't start getting my hopes up. You'll notice the original Defy is still at 2.2 and the Defy+ hasn't got any updates at all.
Our only hope is CyanogenMod and the likes, and the Defy isn't on the high-priority list of any of them. By the time, and if, it comes out at all, we'd all probably have fancy new phones anyways.

Defy original came with 2.1 and got one upgrade to 2.2. It is logical that defy+ get one upgrade too...

ICS will work with froyo kernel 99% sure. Difference between froyo and ginger kernel is security fixes, no major updates, new kernel 3.0.1 is the high-end Linux, if Motorola unlocked boot-loaders it's a big plus about using last kernel innovations.

i hope motorola releases the official gingerbread for our defy because isn't acceptable that we are at froyo yet

^ Motorola confirm that 2.2 is latest update for Defy and Kernel of Defy+ is the same as Froyo 2.6.32, update is not needed. Google was make equip for updating all phones (when is possible) to run 4.0, but was a fake, maybe ?!

we're waiting cyanogenmod team

[Q] ICS 4.0.2 (ICL53F) (F)OTA due in Europe (Netherlands)

Couldn't find the thread while scrolling through numerous threads, so many have been written. I currently own the SGN with official 'yakju' build from Google, ICS 4.0.1.
It is well known the OTA 4.0.2 ICL53F has been rolling out in Europe. I am however still on 4.0.1 (ITL41F) and selecting software update showing there are no updates available.
Anybody already received the update to 4.0.2 (with a fair few bug fixes) in the Netherlands? I am starting to think we do get our updates fairly slow in the Netherlands.

I live in Sweden and have a British (UK) handset bought from Clove in the early days of December.. I'm still on 4.0.1 (ITL41F) as well! Hopefully we will start seeing 4.0.2 or 4.0.3 rolling out soon

No update here. Yakju build..
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I ended up flashing the 4.0.2 stock image from http://code.google.com/android/nexus/images.html and just wiped my phone and set it all up again.

kuntstubble said:
I ended up flashing the 4.0.2 stock image from http://code.google.com/android/nexus/images.html and just wiped my phone and set it all up again.
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was thinking of that aswell but was hoping an update would be due soon.
Thanks guys for your replies Knowing I, with many, am not alone with 4.0.1

Is it necessary to get root if I want to install the official image?

Egoz3ntrum said:
Is it necessary to get root if I want to install the official image?
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best guide for that is found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1419170&highlight=ota+update
I assume method 2 in this post can help you (and myself if I decide to manually update).

BuddyJoe83 said:
Couldn't find the thread while scrolling through numerous threads, so many have been written. I currently own the SGN with official 'yakju' build from Google, ICS 4.0.1.
It is well known the OTA 4.0.2 ICL53F has been rolling out in Europe. I am however still on 4.0.1 (ITL41F) and selecting software update showing there are no updates available.
Anybody already received the update to 4.0.2 (with a fair few bug fixes) in the Netherlands? I am starting to think we do get our updates fairly slow in the Netherlands.
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I got the 4.0.2 update on my NL purchased GN (studentmobiel.nl) almost as soon as I took it out the box... in fact I got the notification before I even had a chance to root and unlock it, this was way back before Christmas (I got one of the first batch of deliveries).

I'd heard they've pulled the update due to some issues with the build. Probably releasing 4.0.3 soon, though

You don't need root to install a stock image but I think the bootloadee must be unlocked.
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djmcnz said:
I got the 4.0.2 update on my NL purchased GN (studentmobiel.nl) almost as soon as I took it out the box... in fact I got the notification before I even had a chance to root and unlock it, this was way back before Christmas (I got one of the first batch of deliveries).
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Hmm this is one of the reactions I was hoping for 'cause I too ordered it at studentmobiel.nl and nothing yet!
I haven't rooted the GN yet but am waiting for the FOTA. I know updates are spread over a period of time but still odd. You think it's related to a specific provider?

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I'd heard they've pulled the update due to some issues with the build. Probably releasing 4.0.3 soon, though
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Yeah heard that too so the update never reached mine (and a lot of others) before it was pulled out.
Well time to wait or to root and flash some then, cheers!

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I'd heard they've pulled the update due to some issues with the build. Probably releasing 4.0.3 soon, though
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If Google fixed something in 4.0.3, it should be released with newer built number. 4.0.4? Or 4.1 that was discussed a bit lately?
My only hope is battery life improvement and faster performance
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Btw, I have one from Algebeld.nl, still on 4.0.1... Yakju.
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gogol said:
If Google fixed something in 4.0.3, it should be released with newer built number. 4.0.4? Or 4.1 that was discussed a bit lately?
My only hope is battery life improvement and faster performance
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I believe they fixed a few things in our build 4.0.1 that resulted in 4.0.2. I don't know exactly what the changes are for 4.0.3 although I'm running 4.0.3 on my SG S 1 but that is custom CM9.
I have to say my battery is great on our SGN and it's really fast in it's performance, especially if I compare it to SGS 1 with ICS. Ofcourse we have a way better processor, memory etc. in our SGN.
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djmcnz said:
I got the 4.0.2 update on my NL purchased GN (studentmobiel.nl) almost as soon as I took it out the box... in fact I got the notification before I even had a chance to root and unlock it, this was way back before Christmas (I got one of the first batch of deliveries).
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That's weird. I'm pretty sure i have had my GNex in the first "Studentmobiel.nl" Delivery Batch and was delivered on the 8th of December.
Untill now, i did NOT receive any OTA Update so i'm still running 4.01 Yakju.
The phone came SIM-locked Free, in combination with Vodafone SIM. But i'm still using my KPN SIM and did not even used my Vodafone SIM-card yet.
What could be the difference? You do have received the OTA Update!
Tnx
Ray

No mate, I live in Belgium and have the GSM version, still on 4.0.1 ! I heard that 4.0.3 is much faster !

RayGarden said:
That's weird. I'm pretty sure i have had my GNex in the first "Studentmobiel.nl" Delivery Batch and was delivered on the 8th of December.
Untill now, i did NOT receive any OTA Update so i'm still running 4.01 Yakju.
The phone came SIM-locked Free, in combination with Vodafone SIM. But i'm still using my KPN SIM and did not even used my Vodafone SIM-card yet.
What could be the difference? You do have received the OTA Update!
Tnx
Ray
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Not sure.
Remember the 4.0.3 update was halted - I'm not sure about the 4.0.2 update.
I had a VF SIM in when I got my OTA but like yours mine was SIM free and unlocked.
But really, just put a custom 4.0.2 or 4.0.3 rom on there and be done with it...

djmcnz said:
Not sure.
Remember the 4.0.3 update was halted - I'm not sure about the 4.0.2 update.
I had a VF SIM in when I got my OTA but like yours mine was SIM free and unlocked.
But really, just put a custom 4.0.2 or 4.0.3 rom on there and be done with it...
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So you now running a Custom Rom? Which one and what are your experiences?
I've learned that Unlocking the Bootloader will wipe all my data?
Can you, besides having Root, explain the advantages between Custom and Stock Rom?
Much appreciated......

RayGarden said:
So you now running a Custom Rom? Which one and what are your experiences?
I've learned that Unlocking the Bootloader will wipe all my data?
Can you, besides having Root, explain the advantages between Custom and Stock Rom?
Much appreciated......
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Yes, I'm running MCR Ir8 (Modaco Custom ROM) which is actually a tuned version of stock, not a full custom ROM. As a result it's very, very stable. It's based on 4.0.2 which is Google's latest release for the GN.
If you run a custom ROM you can even get a 4.0.3 one which is compiled directly from Android source code. But there's a reason Google hasn't released 4.0.3 yet via OTA so you can read into that what you will - 4.0.3 is cutting edge now but may not be 100% stable.
Nevertheless, I used the 4.0.3 AOKP ROM for a bit and thought it was great.
Custom ROM's tend to be more feature rich than stock ROM's including many settings that people feel are "missing" from stock roms... some of which are mods that can be applied to a stock rom but others are changes that go much deeper. For example CyanogenMod, by far the most popular custom rom in Android world, has and additional 30 or so options you can set that you can't do with a stock rom - from memory management to user interface to all sorts.
Yes you will wipe your phone if you unlock the bootloader. There is a way to backup beforehand using ADB, I think there's a guide here somewhere??? But in my mind it's worth the pain, you only have to do it once.
Best way to discover the wonders of a custom rom is to install it and have a play... I'd recommend either MCR (very close to stock) or AOKP (bleeding edge 4.0.3).