Mflops vs iphone - Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So, I was hanging out with a friend of mine that has an iphone 4. I always make fun of him for having one and I heard that our phones hardware are much better, so I had him install an iphone version of linpack, and compare it to mine. I hit almost 18 mflops and shoved it in his face, then he shows me his and its 55?!?! Is the iphone on att really that strong?
Oh and we also compared a speed test, I am really sure he doesn't have 4G. On 3g, I scored just over 1,000 kbps on average in a full signal zone, whereas he scored 5500+ kbps. Wtf?! I turned on 4g and I hit 3,000 kbps and then he just sat there looking at me with that look...."you jave the inferior phone"....
I cried a little. How can the izombie...err...iphone 4 be so powerful?
P.S. In the speedtest, I made sure he turned wifi OFF before trying it, his status bar said 3G.
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You can't compare benchmarks across seperate platforms or you wind up with skewed results. That test is a perfect example because iPhone and Galaxy S use almost the exact same processor but you wind up with drastically different results.
As for speed, the iPhone on 3g is using HSPA+ a.k.a ATT's 4g so that speed sounds about right.

063_XOBX said:
You can't compare benchmarks across seperate platforms or you wind up with skewed results. That test is a perfect example because iPhone and Galaxy S use almost the exact same processor but you wind up with drastically different results.
As for speed, the iPhone on 3g is using HSPA+ a.k.a ATT's 4g so that speed sounds about right.
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Who's mflops are the accurate ones? Lol!
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Overstew said:
Who's mflops are the accurate ones? Lol!
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Linpack for Android is fairly well know to be inaccurate, because it was made for 1st gen snapdragon SOCs . They routinely score ~40mflops while the Galaxy S and Droid X/2 which both have more powerful processors score < 20
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Good ole HSPA+ makes me wish my carrier didnt have WiMax. LOL

iPhone on ATT with a speed test can be very fast, if it can et through the test and not drop the signal. It is known that up until recently ATT had an overly subscribed voice and data network.
As for linpack and any benchmark, I challenge any benchmark software to create a software test that I cannot artificially inflate, I've done it in the data storage industry for years, benchmarks are all about beating the benchmark. The only usefulness of a benchmark is to test your own system against itself when you make changes, not for comparing platform to platform.

That's like my wife's evo blowing away the epic in linpack. It does but the evo is not faster than my epic.
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Slower wifi speeds.

Does anyone else notice slower wifi speeds and higher ping when running the speed test app?
I'm paying for 20mbps but I'm getting 5mbps and 44ms ping.
Is it just me, or does everyone notice this?
My DX2 gets 24mbps and 9ms ping.
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Avelnan said:
Does anyone else notice slower wifi speeds and higher ping when running the speed test app?
I'm paying for 20mbps but I'm getting 5mbps and 44ms ping.
Is it just me, or does everyone notice this?
My DX2 gets 24mbps and 9ms ping.
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no problems... try and update your radio it might help....
Overclocked to 1.6ghz I can only pull about 15mbit. If I turn the clock down, the wifi speed goes down. This is a limitation of the hardware, not the network.
I have a 25mbit home internet connection. My other wifi devices (ie: netbook) pull the full 25mbit.
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Overclocked to 1.6ghz I can only pull about 15mbit. If I turn the clock down, the wifi speed goes down. This is a limitation of the hardware, not the network.
I have a 25mbit home internet connection. My other wifi devices (ie: netbook) pull the full 25mbit.
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I actually noticed that my friend's Sensation pulls about the same as I do on the same wifi network. But his g2x actually pulls more than what I am paying for, which is 20mbit, he gets about 25mbit... Which made me really jelly.
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Noticed something. If my friends g2x and my Dx2, and nimdae at a higher clock pull higher speeds, does this mean higher CPU output, better network speeds?
But then again his Sensation also pulls the same as I do and we're both unrooted and stock clocked.
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Avelnan said:
Noticed something. If my friends g2x and my Dx2, and nimdae at a higher clock pull higher speeds, does this mean higher CPU output, better network speeds?
But then again his Sensation also pulls the same as I do and we're both unrooted and stock clocked.
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The fact the speed increases with the higher clock means the phone is going as fast as it can possibly go given the resources it has. If you were limited to 5mbit, your phone would only be able to do 5mbit regardless of clock speed (unless you dump it really low, then it will be slower).
I looked up the G2x specs and it is running Tegra2, meaning it's a CortexA9 system. It doesn't surprise me that it can easily use the entire bandwidth available at just 20-25mbit. CortexA9, even in a single core configuration (why isn't anyone doing this?), is faster than CortexA8 and current Snapdragon platforms even at the same clock frequencies.
As for pulling higher than advertised speeds, this can happen due to a concept called burst, along with compression. My 25mbit connection can burst at 30+mbit (I've seen it hit 40mbit). Because the mobile app probably works with much smaller data sets, it could be possible to report burst speeds over streaming speeds.

[Q] Sprint and ATT versions Superior?

Hey all are the GS2 from Sprint and att superior to our tmobile version? hardware wise? I am new to rooting and all, and I just rooted my phone and it runs super better with all the bloatware removed.. My antutu bench scored like 5460. is that good? and when I freshly reboot i scored a 3800 in the quadrant. anyone know when an OC kernal will be out?
first off all benchmarks really don't mean much. they are cool to tote around but in the end of the day it makes something better than another.
lets just say that hardware wise the processors are faster on the sprint and att&t. Not stating they are but lets just pretend. What does that really mean? It'd take 0.1 seconds more to open something on the T-mobile. wow is that really relevant?
lets talk about things that matter. screen size. attt is smaller. fail for me. some might like a smaller phone and think 4.52" is too large. if it is go attt. Now sprint is big also. So what other differences is there. More roms on sprint. at least right now. that should be important to people on xda but the phone is young. I think you only need like 4 good roms anyway. Once we have those it'd be different.
really is a slight hardware difference important?
jessejames111981 said:
first off all benchmarks really don't mean much. they are cool to tote around but in the end of the day it makes something better than another.
lets just say that hardware wise the processors are faster on the sprint and att&t. Not stating they are but lets just pretend. What does that really mean? It'd take 0.1 seconds more to open something on the T-mobile. wow is that really relevant?
lets talk about things that matter. screen size. attt is smaller. fail for me. some might like a smaller phone and think 4.52" is too large. if it is go attt. Now sprint is big also. So what other differences is there. More roms on sprint. at least right now. that should be important to people on xda but the phone is young. I think you only need like 4 good roms anyway. Once we have those it'd be different.
really is a slight hardware difference important?
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Very well put sir.
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Touchwiz is hardware accelerated for mali-400 which is more powerful than are gpu. The adreno 220 have better shaders and renders than the mali-400 but the mali is still more powerful. Our version of the galaxy s2 is not hardware accelerated like the other ones. Snapdragon S3 processors are optimized for battery life. Being asynchronous processors meaning even though you have a 1.5
dual core in your phone your phone is never actually reaching 1.5 in both cores at the same time. Both cores work independently from each other. This can make things lag as both processors scale differently from each other. But if programmed correctly they are on the same level with exynos processor if not better.
Thanks! Yes I agree I love my phone, and it runs every single app including every game like a champ, and I do love the bigger screen. I cant wait for more roms to come out for our phone. Anyone know when we will receive a OC kernal to start over clocking it?
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Thanks! Yes I agree I love my phone, and it runs every single app including every game like a champ, and I do love the bigger screen. I cant wait for more roms to come out for our phone. Anyone know when we will receive a OC kernal to start over clocking it?
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overclock? is there a reason to overclock except for (useless) bench marking? I'm still trying to find a game/app that this phone has a hard time running. The game deadspace runs 100% flawless!
I cant seem to download Dead Space.. from the flexion site, but I am downloading dungeon defenders now.
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overclock? is there a reason to overclock except for (useless) bench marking? I'm still trying to find a game/app that this phone has a hard time running. The game deadspace runs 100% flawless!
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Your right no need for overclock this processor is one of the higher clocks and we still get better battery life compared to the others variants. Dead space is a good example on optimization for the gpu for us. As soon as we get some kernels and optimized roms are phone will be sitting right next to the other beast.
att and sprint dont offer up to 42 mbps speed data speeds
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Touchwiz is hardware accelerated for mali-400 which is more powerful than are gpu. The adreno 220 have better shaders and renders than the mali-400 but the mali is still more powerful. Our version of the galaxy s2 is not hardware accelerated like the other ones. Snapdragon S3 processors are optimized for battery life. Being asynchronous processors meaning even though you have a 1.5
dual core in your phone your phone is never actually reaching 1.5 in both cores at the same time. Both cores work independently from each other. This can make things lag as both processors scale differently from each other. But if programmed correctly they are on the same level with exynos processor if not better.
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This. The big difference from a UI perspective is the lack of hardware acceleration on the TMO version. In all likelihood, it will still that way as well.
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att and sprint dont offer up to 42 mbps speed data speeds
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show me some one that gets 42mb. show me someone who gets over 20mb consistantly.
In philadelphia I get 3-5mb with sprint 4g. I get 4-6mb with my gsII. Other cities may get other results
I can say from personal experience that the Sprint version kicks the snot out of this one. Wish I never sold mine and switched to this. but I couldn't pass up 30.00 a month for 5gb that I can actually use.
The Sprint version has barely any lag at all. Using the Tmobile one, it seems so slow that even my Nexus S can walk right by at times. I am seriously considering returning this and getting the htc Sensation or G2X. That's how much it bothers me.
Heck, if a fairly priced new in box Tmobile Android pops up on Craigslist, I will pick it up right away. 560 with tax for something that lags about the same as the Nexus S doesn't seem reasonable.
I know some folks are going to say benchmarks and all. But this is reality for me. I am currently using the S2 and the Sprint NS4G until the port finishes.
Oh and this morning, I did hit 23mbps on a speed test. But to be fair, it was 8am on a Sunday morning. I average anywhere from 3-17mbps where I live.
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I can say from personal experience that the Sprint version kicks the snot out of this one. Wish I never sold mine and switched to this. but I couldn't pass up 30.00 a month for 5gb that I can actually use.
The Sprint version has barely any lag at all. Using the Tmobile one, it seems so slow that even my Nexus S can walk right by at times. I am seriously considering returning this and getting the htc Sensation or G2X. That's how much it bothers me.
Heck, if a fairly priced new in box Tmobile Android pops up on Craigslist, I will pick it up right away. 560 with tax for something that lags about the same as the Nexus S doesn't seem reasonable.
I know some folks are going to say benchmarks and all. But this is reality for me. I am currently using the S2 and the Sprint NS4G until the port finishes.
Oh and this morning, I did hit 23mbps on a speed test. But to be fair, it was 8am on a Sunday morning. I average anywhere from 3-17mbps where I live.
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Yep, this is pretty much the trade-off. With the optimizations going on over in the Dev threads, I have been able to get this phone to behave a fair amount more smoothly, but it's still pretty much a joke compared to the exynos versions.
On the other hand, my data speeds absolutely crush what I was getting with Sprint's wimax in NYC, so there you have it.
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I can say from personal experience that the Sprint version kicks the snot out of this one. Wish I never sold mine and switched to this. but I couldn't pass up 30.00 a month for 5gb that I can actually use.
The Sprint version has barely any lag at all. Using the Tmobile one, it seems so slow that even my Nexus S can walk right by at times. I am seriously considering returning this and getting the htc Sensation or G2X. That's how much it bothers me.
Heck, if a fairly priced new in box Tmobile Android pops up on Craigslist, I will pick it up right away. 560 with tax for something that lags about the same as the Nexus S doesn't seem reasonable.
I know some folks are going to say benchmarks and all. But this is reality for me. I am currently using the S2 and the Sprint NS4G until the port finishes.
Oh and this morning, I did hit 23mbps on a speed test. But to be fair, it was 8am on a Sunday morning. I average anywhere from 3-17mbps where I live.
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I just moved over from the Sprint version today. I will agree that the Sprint version is snappier but the service was horrible, like 300kbytes average, no thanks i will deal with a very tiny bit of lag for better service.
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jessejames111981 said:
show me some one that gets 42mb. show me someone who gets over 20mb consistantly.
In philadelphia I get 3-5mb with sprint 4g. I get 4-6mb with my gsII. Other cities may get other results
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The higher the theoretical top speed, the higher the real-world speed. Bottom line is that the tmo version is faster thanks to the processor's ability to run faster and tmo's network being way faster than both Sprint and ATT.
And to the guy who is having lag issues, I'm sorry man, that's not normal at all. I came from both the Sensation and G2x and while the G2x was the faster of those 2, my Herc blows both away. Maybe try an exchange before you downgrade back to the Sensation or G2x?
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jessejames111981 said:
show me some one that gets 42mb. show me someone who gets over 20mb consistantly.
In philadelphia I get 3-5mb with sprint 4g. I get 4-6mb with my gsII. Other cities may get other results
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Check out the city .....
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TJBunch1228 said:
The higher the theoretical top speed, the higher the real-world speed. Bottom line is that the tmo version is faster thanks to the processor's ability to run faster and tmo's network being way faster than both Sprint and ATT.
And to the guy who is having lag issues, I'm sorry man, that's not normal at all. I came from both the Sensation and G2x and while the G2x was the faster of those 2, my Herc blows both away. Maybe try an exchange before you downgrade back to the Sensation or G2x?
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He's comparing it to the exynos SGS2 tho -- no amount of exchanging is going to make the TMO version look any better in that comparison.
This thread makes me sad I sold, my international exynos version for this
I was using it on att gophone $50 unlimited plan, getting 800 haha, which was ok for simple browsing.
Their prices are ridiculous so signing with.then is out of the question.
after owning it 3 months I sold it , and used the money to get this so I can be on a plan with high speed data
I miss hardware acceleration, and some games running very smoothly.
I liked the big screen, capacitive buttons, and Data speed.
I know I will get other phones and sell this eventually so I don't let it bother me......I try not to lol
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Idk about lag, but my phone doesn't lag at all. Fastest phone I've ever had.
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it was a big deal for me at first, but for my needs it is plenty capable
I miss the high graphics, but realize that good games aren't made to run on one device. If a good game comes out, developers want that game to run well on all devices, so long as they meet the sudden requirements.
Maybe i'm wrong
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Slower WIFI data speeds compared to iPhone?!?

So last night my nephew and I were playing a lil CoD and talking trash. I've got the Nexus, he has an iphone 4 (not the s). He goes on to challenge me to a duel using the speedtest.net app to compare data speeds (ON wifi. I admitted to him that I'm on Sprint and his 3g on AT&T would handily trounce my data speed).
So he agrees and we start up doing about 4 rounds.
This lil ninja picked up speeds of 16-18 mbps regularly while I struggled at about 6-8 mbps. I double checked my settings to make sure we were both using MBS and we were.
So the question is.. WHAT IN CREATION would cause that kind of difference on the SAME network sitting right next to each other?!? I was baffled. I mean it's usable but if i'm missing out on a whole 10mbps difference... I'd like to recover that if possible. SMH.
My wife has a 4S. I'll be doing another comparison this evening.
Don't do the tests at the same time.. my nexus almost always gets higher than any other phone.. I'm not kidding
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You'll never get identical speed doing the test that way... you can get identical iPhones and one will always trounce the other. It all has to do with the server and when it receives the request and when it sends it back to you... could be a latency thing on their end.
My Nexus is faster than my friends iPhone 4 at times, and not so fast on others... it all depends on who hits the server first.
Want to wow him? Have him download a game from the App store and you do the same from the Play store.... only make the size of your download double his. I can guarantee you will have your app/game installed well before his is.

Underwhelmed by the Sprint Samsung E4GT (SPH-D710)

The firmware on my wife's SPH-D710 was just upgraded to FH13. Based on my reading here, that upgrade included an improvement to the 3G modem. If that is true, this is a pretty sad phone - let me explain.
I downloaded Speedtest to my phone, a 2+ year old HTC EVO and here phone. I then ran Speedtest on both. (Actually, it was much harder than that. The GPS on her phone was simply not working, and Speedtest thought I was near Wichita, not southeast Michigan. Even after rebooting to get the GPS working, Speedtest still thought I was hundred of miles form here. Fortunately, the second-to-last server listed overlapped with the servers listed on my phone.)
To be clear: I did one phone then the next. I turned off the WiFi and help both phones in the same location.
HTC EVO: Ping - 192 ms, download - 2531 kbps, upload - 612 kbps
Samsung E4GT: Ping - 173 ms, download - 1789 kbps, upload - 520 kbps
The only difference is that my phone is rooted and I am running AdFree, but that certainly cannot account for the huge difference in performance.
I was actually quite pleased with my wife's phone until I a) ran headlong into the very poor GPS performance and b) saw the poor modem performance. I understand now why HTC phones cost more...
Cool story bro.
Trolls don't take labor day off?
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lol wow.. dunno bout fh13 but fh23 works better for me.. either way this phone is beast.. maybe just yours is crap?
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I thought it was common knowledge that the antennas on the e4gt were a little weaker than most, that seems to be a common trend in Sammy phones. If you want strong antennas I'd recommend Motorolla, however the software on their phones is ****. Motoblur, bleh. Regardless, Samsung still makes the best phones on the market and smother everything else out right now. The S2 helds its title until the S3 came out, nothing tops a Sammy phone but another Sammy I believe the smooth performance and top of the line GPU/CPU/screen is a good trade off.
My apologies if this sounded like a troll message. My wife's phone is clearly faster than mine with regard to processing speed. This is clearly noticeable when updating apps. My post was more a matter of disappointment - why it should clearly excel in some areas but seem to fall flat on others, especially given that it is a much newer device.
I just downloaded and installed Quadrant Standard on both phones. My perceptions were correct - the Samsung is MUCH faster than the EVO. So, again I ask/wonder, why the much slower 3G speed and poor GPS performance?
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My apologies if this sounded like a troll message. My wife's phone is clearly faster than mine with regard to processing speed. This is clearly noticeable when updating apps. My post was more a matter of disappointment - why it should clearly excel in some areas but seem to fall flat on others, especially given that it is a much newer device.
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Your Samsung radio is not going to do better than the HTC radio, first and foremost you have to accept that. Then you can move on to trying out other modems in an attempt to improve signal and download/upload speeds.
There's a LONG list of them that have been released since back in February; you'll find the downloads for each in a stickied post in the development. It doesn't matter what kernel or ROM you are running, you can swap out modem builds at will. If one doesn't work, flash another but always make sure you update profile & PRL after each flash and before running any sort of speed tests.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1764210
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The firmware on my wife's SPH-D710 was just upgraded to FH13. Based on my reading here, that upgrade included an improvement to the 3G modem. If that is true, this is a pretty sad phone - let me explain.
I downloaded Speedtest to my phone, a 2+ year old HTC EVO and here phone. I then ran Speedtest on both. (Actually, it was much harder than that. The GPS on her phone was simply not working, and Speedtest thought I was near Wichita, not southeast Michigan. Even after rebooting to get the GPS working, Speedtest still thought I was hundred of miles form here. Fortunately, the second-to-last server listed overlapped with the servers listed on my phone.)
To be clear: I did one phone then the next. I turned off the WiFi and help both phones in the same location.
HTC EVO: Ping - 192 ms, download - 2531 kbps, upload - 612 kbps
Samsung E4GT: Ping - 173 ms, download - 1789 kbps, upload - 520 kbps
The only difference is that my phone is rooted and I am running AdFree, but that certainly cannot account for the huge difference in performance.
I was actually quite pleased with my wife's phone until I a) ran headlong into the very poor GPS performance and b) saw the poor modem performance. I understand now why HTC phones cost more...
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Fh13 is battery improvements, if you update your prl that will help with download speeds. There are way to many variables for data speeds to get reliable info. 1.7 mbs download is damn good on 3g, I wish I got those speeds, I get .5 MBS if I'm lucky in Sacramento, ca. So anyway unless you have one of the lte phones that Sprint offers there is no better phone then the S2. And those phones are by no means leaps and bounds ahead of this one.
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Thanks for the feedback. I am not an expert with regard to these matters and had assumed that a) the the newer phone would have a faster modem than the older one and b) the download speeds I recorded were not out of the ordinary. My expectations have been reset and I will enjoy her phone (when I can) for what it does well.
Those speed differences are small, I don't think you will notice. Also the faster processor will probably still load Web pages faster even with the slightly lower network speeds.
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For those who have been kind enough to reply: I finally rooted the phone today and reran the test. Post root, the results are:
Samsung E4GT: Ping - 161 ms, download - 2339 kbps, upload - 641kbps
These values are essentially the same as the HTC - no complaints.
Wow really? A thread whining about 1.7mb on 3g... That's f'in good speed for 3g.. There's plenty of us who can't even get past the kb's. Go get yourself an Evo and enjoy your HTC reloading screen...
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groston said:
For those who have been kind enough to reply: I finally rooted the phone today and reran the test. Post root, the results are:
Samsung E4GT: Ping - 161 ms, download - 2339 kbps, upload - 641kbps
These values are essentially the same as the HTC - no complaints.
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You'll find there is a whole lot to love about this phone and with the amazing developers in this forum your choices for customization are endless. Getting rid of my E4GT was one of the hardest things I've done (as far as my gadgets are concerned) but I'm also enjoying the SGSIII.
groston said:
For those who have been kind enough to reply: I finally rooted the phone today and reran the test. Post root, the results are:
Samsung E4GT: Ping - 161 ms, download - 2339 kbps, upload - 641kbps
These values are essentially the same as the HTC - no complaints.
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You have to understand something, network speeds tests are not exactly reliable measures. If you want comparable measurements, you have to run multiple tests on the 2 phones using the identical server at the same time. Then you average the tests. Otherwise, what you have is one data point, testing from a server at different times. So one point may have been when server was less loaded, or the network was less loaded. And even then, your original tests were close enough that you would not notice it, and to be "underwhelmed" just because of that is silly.
Root has absolutely nothing to do with data speeds. What accounted for the improvement is most likely a decreased load on the server or Sprint's network. I have seen much more variation than that on my own phone, simply by testing at different times of the day.
worrying about a 500 k difference on what appears to be pretty great 3g(remember, some sprint users get literally 100kbps) seems kinda bourgeois. how much faster do you need your porn to download?
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worrying about a 500 k difference on what appears to be pretty great 3g(remember, some sprint users get literally 100kbps) seems kinda bourgeois. how much faster do you need your porn to download?
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You ever try and jerk with the video skipping totally messes up your rythem
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cas8180 said:
You ever try and jerk with the video skipping totally messes up your rythem
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This.
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Since the htc was rooted isn't it possible that the sprint proxy had been removed? Nowhere in the post did I see where the OP even stated what ROM he was running.....

Why do Samsung smartphones have such terrible WiFi performance? (distance/reception)

Over the last few years, I figured it was just coincedence, but I've always had MUCH better range and performance on my HTC devices versus Samsung devices. With my Evo 3D, I could walk across the street and still get great WiFi signal, whereas my roommate with an SGS2 lost signal just over 100ft from the router. I always figured his phone was broken, but other friends with various other Samsung phones from different carries had the SAME problem... Now I bought myself a Sprint SGS3 and I am seeing identical performance, with equally-bad signal issues regarding 3G and 4G.
Why would Samsung continue to produce lackluster radio hardware despite generation after generation of problematic phones? I guess the cool-factor outweighs usability? Scary
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This is about to get ugly......
I can confirm the same sort of issues, I have the SGS3, my son has the iphone 4S and my step son has the Evo LTE, and those two snot nosed little punks have much better wifi around here than I do, hell we can be sitting next to each on the couch and they've got signal when I don't. And let's not talk about 3G reception, that will just cause me to cry... Let's not get into why I let a family member, not to mention my own flesh and blood own an apple device... it sickens me...
I can confirm also. My evo lte gets full signal anywhere in my house. If my cars parked across the street i still have 2 bars on wifi. My router on my 2nd floor. My s3 only gets full signal on that floor. If i walk out my door i lose it
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I have the Evo LTE and the GS3, and while the Evo shows better signal strength, the Samsung gets at least 30 percent higher throughput on WIFI all the time. I have not tested which one goes a greater distance from the router, but the Samsung is always a lot faster at my house. Typically the Evo gets 6-9Mbps while the GS3 pulls 12Mbps.
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I can confirm the same sort of issues, I have the SGS3, my son has the iphone 4S and my step son has the Evo LTE, and those two snot nosed little punks have much better wifi around here than I do, hell we can be sitting next to each on the couch and they've got signal when I don't. And let's not talk about 3G reception, that will just cause me to cry... Let's not get into why I let a family member, not to mention my own flesh and blood own an apple device... it sickens me...
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Epic post is epic.
freecharlesmanson said:
Fail troll
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Gee, I dunno. Mine's kinda slow, don't you think?
Sent from my SAMSUNG Galaxy S3, not an "i" anything.
Tried opening my phone to figure out how to get to fix the WiFi and well **** happens.
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I also am having the same issues with the S3 when it comes to WiFi Reception !! I Had the HTC Evo LTE And The WiFi Reception was Exceptional. I knew it all along that Samsung had weak Radios. Knowing all that and I still Ended up getting the S3 cause its is an Awesome Toy and is lots of fun to use not to mention easy to root !!
I hope Samsung has a way to update their software and be able to fix this issue. I also hope Sprint will carry the Note 2 cause that is my next toy and cant wait for it to show up on sprint!! Samsung is Bomb and I am proud to carry that name with me wherever I go )))))
maybe samsung wouldn't get so many complaints about its radios if they had also copied the iphone's hardware.
Frostacious said:
Tried opening my phone to figure out how to get to fix the WiFi and well **** happens.
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Ain't nothing a little duct tape can't fix!
It's funny that I ran into this today because I was just talking to someone about how impressed I have been with the WiFi performance. I'm coming from an Electrify (Photon) and a Desire before that. I must say, those phones had so many issues with WiFi connectivity that it makes the GS3 look unbelievably great. I guess it has to do with luck in some cases.
Interestingly, the GS3 uses (as far as I can tell) the Broadcom 4334 chip for Wi-Fi, which is the newer cousin of the iPhone 4S's chip, the Broadcom 4330, so performance should be similar. Also, my EVO 3D (which has good Wi-Fi reception) uses the Broadcom 4329 chip. Between the two phones, I haven't seen any noticeable difference in range or performance. Both have worked very well. (The drivers that the S3 uses for the 4334, though, have some wake lock problems, I've noticed.) The LTEVO uses Qualcomm's WCN3660, but I can't imagine the difference is that substantial. If there is a different between the S3 and the other devices, it's most likely a software problem.
for the people that say they have wifi issue did you still get a internet connection i mean seriously the bars doesnt mean that you dont have connection
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cnstarz said:
maybe samsung wouldn't get so many complaints about its radios if they had also copied the iphone's hardware.
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how did they copy the hardware i**** fan boy seriously stop being a ifollower
mrej201 said:
for the people that say they have wifi issue did you still get a internet connection i mean seriously the bars doesnt mean that you dont have signal/QUOTE]
When im on my s3 and runnin on tredmill pandora bufferes bout once a minute. When im on the evo lte pandora streams lightning fast while i still surf web. My gfs s3 is just as bad. All my friends s3 are just as bad. My evo3d was betted then my e4gt. I love the s3 but htc phones wifi is wayyyyy better
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I have no idea what you're talking about. I had the Evo 3D and the Galaxy S3's 3G signal strength is far superior. The WiFi signal is the same with the added benefit of 5Ghz.
What I see is a real-world distance issue... not necessarily a throughout problem. Though I FEEL that is also lower than all my previous devices. Is there a good app we can use for comparisons? I still have my Evo 3D at the house.
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bmoreboy02 said:
mrej201 said:
for the people that say they have wifi issue did you still get a internet connection i mean seriously the bars doesnt mean that you dont have signal/QUOTE]
When im on my s3 and runnin on tredmill pandora bufferes bout once a minute. When im on the evo lte pandora streams lightning fast while i still surf web. My gfs s3 is just as bad. All my friends s3 are just as bad. My evo3d was betted then my e4gt. I love the s3 but htc phones wifi is wayyyyy better
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The signal bars mean nothing as far as throughput goes. My evo lte was worse with wifi connections than my s3. I have no buffering issues EVER with my s3 and pandora. You might wanna stay with 2.4 ghz and wpa v2 to get the most performance.
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No issues here...multiple carriers...multiple phones...multiple manufacturers
They all work the same for me
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