Why do Samsung smartphones have such terrible WiFi performance? (distance/reception) - Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III

Over the last few years, I figured it was just coincedence, but I've always had MUCH better range and performance on my HTC devices versus Samsung devices. With my Evo 3D, I could walk across the street and still get great WiFi signal, whereas my roommate with an SGS2 lost signal just over 100ft from the router. I always figured his phone was broken, but other friends with various other Samsung phones from different carries had the SAME problem... Now I bought myself a Sprint SGS3 and I am seeing identical performance, with equally-bad signal issues regarding 3G and 4G.
Why would Samsung continue to produce lackluster radio hardware despite generation after generation of problematic phones? I guess the cool-factor outweighs usability? Scary

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This is about to get ugly......

I can confirm the same sort of issues, I have the SGS3, my son has the iphone 4S and my step son has the Evo LTE, and those two snot nosed little punks have much better wifi around here than I do, hell we can be sitting next to each on the couch and they've got signal when I don't. And let's not talk about 3G reception, that will just cause me to cry... Let's not get into why I let a family member, not to mention my own flesh and blood own an apple device... it sickens me...

I can confirm also. My evo lte gets full signal anywhere in my house. If my cars parked across the street i still have 2 bars on wifi. My router on my 2nd floor. My s3 only gets full signal on that floor. If i walk out my door i lose it
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I have the Evo LTE and the GS3, and while the Evo shows better signal strength, the Samsung gets at least 30 percent higher throughput on WIFI all the time. I have not tested which one goes a greater distance from the router, but the Samsung is always a lot faster at my house. Typically the Evo gets 6-9Mbps while the GS3 pulls 12Mbps.

fishingmedic said:
I can confirm the same sort of issues, I have the SGS3, my son has the iphone 4S and my step son has the Evo LTE, and those two snot nosed little punks have much better wifi around here than I do, hell we can be sitting next to each on the couch and they've got signal when I don't. And let's not talk about 3G reception, that will just cause me to cry... Let's not get into why I let a family member, not to mention my own flesh and blood own an apple device... it sickens me...
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Gee, I dunno. Mine's kinda slow, don't you think?
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Tried opening my phone to figure out how to get to fix the WiFi and well **** happens.
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I also am having the same issues with the S3 when it comes to WiFi Reception !! I Had the HTC Evo LTE And The WiFi Reception was Exceptional. I knew it all along that Samsung had weak Radios. Knowing all that and I still Ended up getting the S3 cause its is an Awesome Toy and is lots of fun to use not to mention easy to root !!
I hope Samsung has a way to update their software and be able to fix this issue. I also hope Sprint will carry the Note 2 cause that is my next toy and cant wait for it to show up on sprint!! Samsung is Bomb and I am proud to carry that name with me wherever I go )))))

maybe samsung wouldn't get so many complaints about its radios if they had also copied the iphone's hardware.

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Tried opening my phone to figure out how to get to fix the WiFi and well **** happens.
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Ain't nothing a little duct tape can't fix!

It's funny that I ran into this today because I was just talking to someone about how impressed I have been with the WiFi performance. I'm coming from an Electrify (Photon) and a Desire before that. I must say, those phones had so many issues with WiFi connectivity that it makes the GS3 look unbelievably great. I guess it has to do with luck in some cases.

Interestingly, the GS3 uses (as far as I can tell) the Broadcom 4334 chip for Wi-Fi, which is the newer cousin of the iPhone 4S's chip, the Broadcom 4330, so performance should be similar. Also, my EVO 3D (which has good Wi-Fi reception) uses the Broadcom 4329 chip. Between the two phones, I haven't seen any noticeable difference in range or performance. Both have worked very well. (The drivers that the S3 uses for the 4334, though, have some wake lock problems, I've noticed.) The LTEVO uses Qualcomm's WCN3660, but I can't imagine the difference is that substantial. If there is a different between the S3 and the other devices, it's most likely a software problem.

for the people that say they have wifi issue did you still get a internet connection i mean seriously the bars doesnt mean that you dont have connection
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maybe samsung wouldn't get so many complaints about its radios if they had also copied the iphone's hardware.
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how did they copy the hardware i**** fan boy seriously stop being a ifollower

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for the people that say they have wifi issue did you still get a internet connection i mean seriously the bars doesnt mean that you dont have signal/QUOTE]
When im on my s3 and runnin on tredmill pandora bufferes bout once a minute. When im on the evo lte pandora streams lightning fast while i still surf web. My gfs s3 is just as bad. All my friends s3 are just as bad. My evo3d was betted then my e4gt. I love the s3 but htc phones wifi is wayyyyy better
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I have no idea what you're talking about. I had the Evo 3D and the Galaxy S3's 3G signal strength is far superior. The WiFi signal is the same with the added benefit of 5Ghz.

What I see is a real-world distance issue... not necessarily a throughout problem. Though I FEEL that is also lower than all my previous devices. Is there a good app we can use for comparisons? I still have my Evo 3D at the house.
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mrej201 said:
for the people that say they have wifi issue did you still get a internet connection i mean seriously the bars doesnt mean that you dont have signal/QUOTE]
When im on my s3 and runnin on tredmill pandora bufferes bout once a minute. When im on the evo lte pandora streams lightning fast while i still surf web. My gfs s3 is just as bad. All my friends s3 are just as bad. My evo3d was betted then my e4gt. I love the s3 but htc phones wifi is wayyyyy better
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The signal bars mean nothing as far as throughput goes. My evo lte was worse with wifi connections than my s3. I have no buffering issues EVER with my s3 and pandora. You might wanna stay with 2.4 ghz and wpa v2 to get the most performance.
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No issues here...multiple carriers...multiple phones...multiple manufacturers
They all work the same for me
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[ CDMA / Verizon ] The nexus versus... Questions inside.

Im coming from Sprint to verizon. IM debating between the Nexus and the Rezound. I see that the Rezound has a faster processor by like .3 ghz. Does that little bit make a difference? What about s-off, full root, unlocked bootloader etc etc. Does it have all of that too? Any reason to choose the nexus over the rezound?
Just came from Spurnt (uhh, Sprint) and a MoPho phone myself.
(I will never in my life own another Motorola phone no matter what)
You will have zero problems with rooting or unlocking the bootloader (s-off).
It took me all of 10 minutes after I got the phone home and those 2 along with wireless tether were up and running and have had zero issues with the phone.
It flat out rocks.
BTW about 40Mb down and 18Mb up speeds on LTE in my area
I have had so many HTC phones and I was sick of sense so I got the nexus both solid phones mater of preference
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Im coming from Sprint to verizon. IM debating between the Nexus and the Rezound. I see that the Rezound has a faster processor by like .3 ghz. Does that little bit make a difference? What about s-off, full root, unlocked bootloader etc etc. Does it have all of that too? Any reason to choose the nexus over the rezound?
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If you care about unlocked bootloader the nexus is the only way to go. Plus the nexus will always have more development support than a one off device like the rezound.
Also I think the omap processor at 1.2 is faster than the scorpion at 1.5
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If you read up on the galaxy nexus omap chip, you'll find or that the natural clock speed is 1.5GHz. It's actually underclocked on our phones. Most custom rooms allow you over clock if you want.
Honestly, with pure Android, speed is not an issue, especially with all the great devs. Remember, a great development community can really make our break a phone. That's why the og evo was so good, because of the great developers.
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I switched from Sprint to Verizon about three weeks ago, and I haven't looked back! I've been wanting a Nexus phone for a while now, Sprint sucks in my hometown (Longview,TX), and I bet on Verizon bringing 4G here soon - and I was right! We just got 4G (unofficially) a week ago, and were among the cities they officially expanded to on the 16th!
My point is, switch to Verizon and get a Galaxy Nexus! They're awesome. I immediately put CyanogenMod 9 on mine, and I've loved nearly every minute I've used my phone. I wouldn't call it "always buttery smooth," but the hiccups are hardly noticeable.
Oh, and I highly recommend Apex Launcher! It's currently rated 4.8/5 in the Play Store from over 2200 ratings, and over 1900 are 5-star ratings! It's highly customizable.
The worst part of my switch was going from a $90/mo unlimited plan with Sprint (after taxes) to a $110/mo 4GB plan with Verizon, but it's worth it.
Dude, by something already! I figured by now you would have been way on your way with the GN and Verizon...lol
Anyway. I got the GN, my wife has the Rezound. Both are good phones, the GN is definitely the better phone for me. The Rezound was the better phone for the wife.
The GN feels faster then the Rezound even though the Rezound has a 1.5ghz dula core vs a 1.2ghz in the GN. The GN just feels like a flagship device where the Rezound is just another HTC phone and it is almost like if you owned 1 HTC phone it is like you owned them all.
The screen is way better on the GN as well. Super Amoled over SLCD any day. The one thing the Rezound does have is a better radio. The Rezound will pick up 4G in low signal area's and keep a good signal with it where the GN will drop me to 3G.
There is pretty good development for the Rezound as well and they just got a release candidate leak of ICS yesterday...There is still nothing like running pure ICS that we get on the GN though.
So either way you will have a good phone but I would choose the GN 7 days of the week. Now can you please go buy something?
true, I should have bought something by now. I just dont want to get something and then wish I had gotten the other one.
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true, I should have bought something by now. I just dont want to get something and then wish I had gotten the other one.
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Like I told the guy in the other thread, buy the GN first. If you do not have any reception problems then you will already have the better phone. If you encounter any problems then exchange for the Rezound.
okay but what designates a better signal? What dbm should I be after?
Thanks guys.. Im hesitant with the Nexus because IVe heard about samsung not rolling out updates etc etc as fast as they should.
Believe me when I say that the Nexus will run faster than the Rezound, even on just stock. Sense is a system hog if I ever saw one. Plus, like others mentioned, it's easy to OC the Nexus, however it runs so smoothly that I've never had to. Keep in mind that ICS is optimized to take advantage of multiple processors, unlike GB which doesn't.
Additionally, if you can afford it, I suggest Verizon over Sprint, although as a disclaimer I've never had Sprint so my opinion comes from what my friends have told me about them and my experiences with Big Red.
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okay but what designates a better signal? What dbm should I be after?
Thanks guys.. Im hesitant with the Nexus because IVe heard about samsung not rolling out updates etc etc as fast as they should.
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When I talk about signal, I am really talking about the devices that seem to have bad hardware. My first GN would literally drop 4G in a good area every couple of minutes. It would lose signal and then it would come back.
My replacement is 100% fine and I have had it for 2 weeks now. Trust me, you will know if your device is bad. Also, this was only noticed on 4G. 3G had no issues.
Having said that, my wifes Rezound pulls in better dbm's in our house which is in a area with bad signal for any carrier. On Sprint I needed an Airave or I couldn't use my phone in my house...
Now I can use my GN to make calls and while the signal is pretty weak it still holds and calls sound fine. I am usually around -100 through -120 in my house. 4G sometimes will come on but it has a hard time sticking. My wife's signal in my house is usually around -93 and holds 4G signal throughout my house.
I am not really concerned as I have wifi in my house and have no problems with my phone or texts on my GN at home and in better area's 4G never drops.
I still would never give up my GN for a Rezound. If my 2nd GN had the same issues as my first I do not know what I would have done. I might have looked at the Razr Maxx but the GN and Verizon were the main reasons I made the switch from Sprint.
After owning HTC phone exclusively since the ppc-6600 all the way through the EVO 4G and 3D, these devices just feel stale to me. If I didn't own these HTC devices before, maybe the Rezound would be more exciting but it is not.
Everyday I fall more in love with my GN. The latest thing is being able to run the GN in tablet mode. This just put the device over the top for me and made it even more user friendly. Having the bottom bar handle the on screen navigations as well as all the notifications, it has become truly amazing.
Thanks man... Imay get the GN and my fiance may get the rezound..
So to get this straight, I would know if I have a bad nexus by the 4g signal dropping out? Would it be anywhere? Or just where the 4g signal isnt great?
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So to get this straight, I would know if I have a bad nexus by the 4g signal dropping out? Would it be anywhere? Or just where the 4g signal isnt great?
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You'd have to compare it to another Verizon LTE phone next to it and see which is better. The GN will probably have a lower signal. Just how it is.
Okay well I still havent gotten a straight answer. Is it a lower signal, or does it just show the ACTUAL signal like all AOSP roms do?
i would easily say the nexus, i made the same switch your doin, and i LOVE IT!!!! My bill is cheaper than it was with sprint, the service is waaaaaay better, the nexus will get early updates, and the dev support for it is massive! You won't regret it
Seriously why hasn't anyone mentioned that although the rezound has 1.5 gigs its a couple of a8 cores and not a9.
a9 cores @ 1.2 gig clock speed easily out performs an a8 with 1.5 gig.
Just add a poll on the thread.
I vote for the Nexus..
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Okay well I still havent gotten a straight answer. Is it a lower signal, or does it just show the ACTUAL signal like all AOSP roms do?
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It shows an accurate signal. So do other phones if you go into the proper settings menu. It is also likely to have a lower signal if compared to RAZR or Rezound. Just how it is.

The LTE/4G Hype

I was thinking why the hell do we need this 4G /LTE speed anyway if it's going to be such a battery hog? I catch myself switching to 3G to preserve battery all the time and on 3G for almost 95% of the day. What do you use the LTE speed for that I'm missing out on? As much as I despise anything Apple, no wonder they aren't in any hurry to bring it to the iphone. If you' asked me it was a great ploy by verizon to increase speed and then get rid of unlimited plans to make more money.
Just ranting. Missing my thunderbolt's HUGE extended battery.
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I agree 100%. I have a GSM Galaxy Nexus on T-Mobile and I think the HSPA+ speeds are sufficiently fast enough for what I do on the phone (browsing, Facebook, maybe watch an occasional video etc). 4G would just unnecessarily rape my battery.
In fact, I was a Sprint customer before and their poor excuse for "3G" was so slow, that I was floored when I got speeds up to 9-10mbps on T-Mobile as opposed to .98-1Mbps on Sprint.
I have a 3800 mah battery I bought for $20 on ebay, and it supports nfc. Problem solved. I use LTE for netflix, youtube, podcasts, ect. I could live without it, but it's insanely fast compared to vzw evdo 3g.
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That's almost like asking why we need high speed internet at home when dial-up did everything we needed.
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Im not going to say that 4g speeds are unnecessary or worthless but I dont use it. As I explained in another post the other day. We get great 3g coverage here and I can save alot of battery running 3g instead of 4g. With the exception of video everything works great. Video just needs a few extra seconds to buffer. But lets not blame 4g for getting rid of unlimited plans. Getting rid of unlimited was going to happen anyways.
DirgeExtinction- That's almost like asking why we need high speed internet at home when dial-up did everything we needed.
Almost? Not even close. There is no advantage to use 4g over 3g for 90% of the things your going to do on the internet. Assuming 3g coverage is as good as 4g your not going to pull a webpage up noticeably faster, Google Nav isnt going to run any better, and music streaming apps should be just fine. With your analogy even the most basic internet tasks were improved considerably. Do you even remember what dialup was like?
People said the same thing during the transition from Edge to 3G. "Where'd my battery go? 3G uses too much battery. I'm always going to keep it on Edge." The chipsets and batteries will catch up, and in a year or so, turning off LTE will seem as silly as "leaving it on Edge."
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People said the same thing during the transition from Edge to 3G. "Where'd my battery go? 3G uses too much battery. I'm always going to keep it on Edge." The chipsets and batteries will catch up, and in a year or so, turning off LTE will seem as silly as "leaving it on Edge."
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Thank you!
I couldn't have said it better than myself.
LTE is 1st gen tech in current devices. Of COURSE it has issues such as battery drain.
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Im not going to say that 4g speeds are unnecessary or worthless but I dont use it. As I explained in another post the other day. We get great 3g coverage here and I can save alot of battery running 3g instead of 4g. With the exception of video everything works great. Video just needs a few extra seconds to buffer. But lets not blame 4g for getting rid of unlimited plans. Getting rid of unlimited was going to happen anyways.
DirgeExtinction- That's almost like asking why we need high speed internet at home when dial-up did everything we needed.
Almost? Not even close. There is no advantage to use 4g over 3g for 90% of the things your going to do on the internet. Assuming 3g coverage is as good as 4g your not going to pull a webpage up noticeably faster, Google Nav isnt going to run any better, and music streaming apps should be just fine. With your analogy even the most basic internet tasks were improved considerably. Do you even remember what dialup was like?
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That is entirely subjective to the user.
And...yes, LTE DOES browse faster. You would be wrong there. Is it fast enough to matter? Once again, entirely subjective.
I can get where I need to go in a Hyundai Elantra. I rather do it in a Porsche.
Fyi, lte is not the 4g protocol.
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Fyi, lte is not the 4g protocol.
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Yes it is.
http://www.itu.int/net/pressoffice/press_releases/2010/48.aspx
As the most advanced technologies currently defined for global wireless mobile broadband communications, IMT-Advanced is considered as ā€œ4Gā€, although it is recognized that this term, while undefined, may also be applied to the forerunners of these technologies, LTE and WiMax, and to other evolved 3G technologies providing a substantial level of improvement in performance and capabilities with respect to the initial third generation systems now deployed.
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Leave it on 4G and be done with it! Mine is on 4G all day long and the battery gets low... I charge it!
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Also, it is not just HYPE. Everything is MUCH better with 4G than with 3G.
Why the hype? Because it's fast, really fast. When your battery gets low, charge it.
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Excuses, excuses. Battery life was excellent, actually about as good as my Hspa+
nexus, using my old s2 skyrocket. If we don't need "lte", then we don't need
high speed internet at home either. Browsing, watching videos, etc.. is
substantially faster on Lte. With the certain exception of some phones, battery
life on Lte is not that bad, and will improve drastically with the newer releases this year.
If you don't think it's worth it, turn it off. Personally I think it's great and hate it when I'm in an area without it. It's not hype to me it makes everything better faster. The best part is, you can turn it off when you want better battery life.
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Have you USED the verizon 4g? Its soooooo ****ing fast. It even rivals the speed of the internet I get at home with comcast. When my brother is hogging the internet, I just switch to tether and use it on my home computer and it's awesome. Yes, it does eat up battery, and I usually switch it off if I'm going somewhere for an extended period of time. But when I'm actively using my phone, why would I not want to download at 2 megabytes per second?
Your ranting argument is hilarious...
Why do we need dual core smartphones, all it does is eat up battery...
I totally don't care about lte cause with hsdpa 42Mbps I'm fine with it. I'm sure at some point I'll change my mind. But I'm not looking forward to lte battery drain until the chip sets get smaller and more efficient in a few years.
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I totally don't care about lte cause with hsdpa 42Mbps I'm fine with it. I'm sure at some point I'll change my mind. But I'm not looking forward to lte battery drain until the chip sets get smaller and more efficient in a few years.
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Except that...the Galaxy Nexus doesn't support 42Mbps from Tmo.
If couldn't turn it off I could understand the *****ing, but you can. Problem solved. And that is the price you pay for adopting 1st/2nd Gen tech. You're making it cheaper and more efficient for us guys when we decide to go for it. I played a with a gs2 skyrocket today and was impressed it got 3 megabytes dl speed. Faster than my 1.5 megabyte cable internet hardwired. I wish I could test run it just to see how bad battery is but I'm cool with it. I would probably adopt lte faster if carriers gave us a decent amount bucket data plans for the price, not to mention tether for the same data. If I had something to ***** about it would be the measly data plan, with no tether, you get for $30 that you can go through in 30 minutes if you wanted. As a matter of fact you should. Adopting it early and then *****ing about a trivial problem instead of a real problem means you like getting bent over. And you happily paid for it when you got the phone. And you cant say you didn't because you knew there hasn't been a magic phone with lte. Yet. And I don't see apple pulling it off for at least another generation of lte phones.
bow chicka wow wow.
I guess I'm glad that it's there if I want it. But functionally, I've never once actually gone and toggled it on because I was doing something that I wanted more speed for. So maybe I'm not the target customer.
Like most things that service providers do in the public sphere, I think the excessive marketing that goes into the feature is a complete disservice to everyone, and I think the mindset that demands new features to be hyped up like this is a complete disservice to the industry. It's like some kind of trainwreck symbiosis. But the way the advertising wing of these companies is set up, a prominent suggestion that 4g is anything less than BLAZING FAST AND AWESOME is not going to happen.
I do think that the correct implementation of this on current phones should be prominently featured toggles to turn it on/off at will, instead of a setting buried under a few layers of menus. I remember when I first got my phone, there was no way to set a 4g toggle that just performed the function, instead of being a shortcut to that menu. Custom roms offer that. I wonder if Sense et al have these toggles built into them by default.
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Have you USED the verizon 4g? Its soooooo ****ing fast. It even rivals the speed of the internet I get at home with comcast. When my brother is hogging the internet, I just switch to tether and use it on my home computer and it's awesome. Yes, it does eat up battery, and I usually switch it off if I'm going somewhere for an extended period of time. But when I'm actively using my phone, why would I not want to download at 2 megabytes per second?
Your ranting argument is hilarious...
Why do we need dual core smartphones, all it does is eat up battery...
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ranting is not an argument. ranting is....well, ranting dude. It's my opinion. Not arguing anything.
And yes, I have used the LTE. I've used it since the very first day the Thunderbolt came out (first LTE phone). The point of my "argument" was that I (stress, I) really don't need it for anything I (again, I) do on my phone. Accessing info I need is fine on my 1.2 Mbit/s 3G speed.
The comparisons with home Internet speeds and dual core processors is rubbish. Totally different scenarios. CPU speed and home Internet is necessary. But please, don't tell me that we need 20+ Mbit/s on our phones to watch the latest viral video of the guy fingering his dog's nose on YouTube.
Here is another one for you, lets just get rid of this damn youtube.
I just wanted to see what people were wasting bandwidth on.
I do love the answer that hardware will catchup eventually and we don't have to "argue" these points.

Did the official Verizon 4.04 update help your cell signal?

I realize the release is brand new and has already been pulled but I'm curious to find out what people will think after using it a few days. Have you encountered any improvement or degredation in call quality, data quality, battery life? Sorry about the number of choices but some people think polls are skewed for a result and always say I should have had this or that as an option so I tried to think of as many options as possible since I can not add more choices after the fact.
Battery life hasn't improved for me but could be the rom I'm on (patient Zero )
I don't lose data as much now but still to early to tell. Appears better.
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Subjectively, seems worse to me, but better handoff to 3g.
Same reception as FA02/FA02. Quicker handoff though. Favors 3G over 4G.
Battery life hasn't really improved nor dbm's. One thing I did notice was 3G to 4G handoff was quicker.
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Battery life hasn't really improved nor dbm's. One thing I did notice was 3G to 4G handoff was quicker.
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Doesn't data have nothing to with dBms?
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Doesn't data have nothing to with dBms?
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er...what?
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Doesn't data have nothing to with dBms?
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Lolololol
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I notice that the screen on mine is much more sensitive to touch. That was my biggest issue before so now I'm happy!
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I notice that the screen on mine is much more sensitive to touch. That was my biggest issue before so now I'm happy!
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Ditto on that as well. Very sensitive. My 4G is the same as my Razr Maxx and D4. Cross Fingers!
I noticed I had 4G in an area I couldn't before, other than that nothing really changed for me. One of the guys I talk to on G+ says that he never got 4G in his house before and his wifes Rezound always did, but since updating the radios last night he gets 4G inside his home.
I'm still getting random drops from 4G, but the passing off onto 3G seems to be a lot faster. Also I noticed that I get more bars in area where I had less (ex. 2 bars of 4G is now 4 bars of 4G), but still had the same dbms.
Subjectively I feel it helped tremendously. Haven't had a single data drop all day when before I would get several drops a day. I also have better reception.
Why did it get pulled?
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I've been on 4.0.4 for months now but I did flash the radios from the official update and my signal is better.
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No noticable difference for me. Although my house is right across the street from an LTE tower in a park.
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So far I am disappoint.
While the hand offs are faster I'm connected to LTE a lot less now...and previously it seemed that signal in my area was improving ><
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Doesn't data have nothing to with dBms?
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dBm is how strong of a signal your phone is getting. (if you want a higher dBm hold it higher/different ) That should be more dependent on hardware than software though, what's sometimes more important is the Signal to Noise Ratio and the Carrier Interference & Noise Ratio (SNR & CINR). Which is basically how easy your phone can hear the tower.
It's like trying to yell across a room that is full of drunk people, whoever you're talking to may be able to hear you yelling but they have no idea what you're saying. Same way for cell phones if you're in a very crowded area.
Something you guys may want to look at. So I was going to test the radios today. I sat here on lean kernel and AOKP and was getting between 86-89dbm of 4G with the new radios which was better but I figured what the hell and flashed the IMM76K build and now I get 71-74dbm with lean kernel. I don't know if everyone is going to see results like this but it is definitely worth a shot if you are seeing low dbm with the new radio.
Speedtest is now giving me 20mb down when the highest I could get before was 12. I know this sounds to good to be true, so don't believe me if you think so but I am just reporting what I am seeing.
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I'm not surprised the results are mixed but I was hoping for better.
Radios
For some reason my signal starts off really bad then goes back to normal. I have noticed it favored 3g more so than 4g. Normally on my drive home from work, as soon as i hit the highway it hits 4g, i was a good 10 miles down the road, still showed 3g, so toggled lte off then on and boom back to 4g, albeit weak for a minute then back to normal. Speed tests show slightly faster, but that's negligible for me. Could just be network congestion at the time the other tests were run.
On a side rant i did notice something slightly strange. Installed bamf 1.25 simultaneously on my nexus (had since launch date) and a certified pre-owned replacement for a friend, which of course was freshly rooted by me si the "sd card" was empty other than the roms, and the fresh phone blazed through the installed about 30 seconds quicker than mine and also rebooted faster. I clicked both phones at the same time, both using 5.8.0.0 touch recovery. Nothing to do with the radio, but felt like sharing. Guess i might completely wipe my phone and see if it speeds her up!

My Experience with Latest Radios (VZN FF02/FG02)

I know there is a thread for the latest system update but I thought we should have our own thread to discuss radio experience.
For me it's nothing short of amazing! I am such a happy camper right now. I work in a brick building and I could hardly ever hang onto a 4G signal. I would say the phone was staying in 3G 90% of the time and 10% 4G.
Flashed the latest radios and over the last 4 hours I have had a solid 4G signal all day! I can finally use my 4G signal at work! It's been horrible because we don't have wifi in my building. I have heard that handoff between wifi and 4G is quick but I havent been able to test yet.
How's everyone else's experience?
I say go flash this now! http://rootzwiki.com/topic/33228-jro03o-radios-for-toro-ff02fg02/
Nice. Thanks for the quick link. Didn't have to read through the other forum to find it. At work downloaded the zip on my phone, flashed through cwm and boom. New awesome radios
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That's all I have to say about that. I know speed test is not reliable but its something.
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Damn! Especially that large of a jump! I haven't even done a speed test...I'm just glad to be able to even grab 4G haha
Everything is so much snappier now. My signal strength stays at four bars constantly too.
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I unfortunately didn't get any speed tests from 4.0.4 radio but I did do the latest from 4.1.1.
Not sure if I should be happy or sad?
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Got a nice signal bump in my house, went from 2 to 4 bars... awesome.
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Very, very happy with the new radio release.
I was one of the many unlucky Nexus users with the 4G/radio drop, and had been resigned to using strictly 3G in order to simply have a usable phone outside of being on a WiFi network. For such a good phone, this issue had me literally hours away from finally returning it back to BB since it is w/i the 30 day return window and getting a new phone altogether.
After flashing the radios this morning, I have had no signal drops, constant 4G and no delays or hiccups of note. Whatever they fixed, hopefully it remains!
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Very, very happy with the new radio release.
I was one of the many unlucky Nexus users with the 4G/radio drop, and had been resigned to using strictly 3G in order to simply have a usable phone outside of being on a WiFi network. For such a good phone, this issue had me literally hours away from finally returning it back to BB since it is w/i the 30 day return window and getting a new phone altogether.
After flashing the radios this morning, I have had no signal drops, constant 4G and no delays or hiccups of note. Whatever they fixed, hopefully it remains!
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Yep, these are the radios it should of shipped with out of the box! I've been struggling with similar issues for almost a year!
I usually get a good signal in the building where I work and at home. I've flashed the new radios and haven't noticed any huge improvements. Nothing is worse either.
I flashed the new radios, too early for me to tell since where I am in NYC I always got 4G, but I just tried a few speedtests lucky if I get 5 Mbps
I don't think I have ever seen anything higher then that unless I am on wifi, how do you get such great speeds.
I just think the new radio show more bars but they didn't increase my signal or anything...
its -100dbm and I have full bars all the time
I live in reno nv so not very many people on the network as compared to NYC.
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Nothing changed for me at all. I've always had a good signal going back to 4.0.2.
No noticeable change of anything here.
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pwrmedia said:
Very, very happy with the new radio release.
I was one of the many unlucky Nexus users with the 4G/radio drop, and had been resigned to using strictly 3G in order to simply have a usable phone outside of being on a WiFi network. For such a good phone, this issue had me literally hours away from finally returning it back to BB since it is w/i the 30 day return window and getting a new phone altogether.
After flashing the radios this morning, I have had no signal drops, constant 4G and no delays or hiccups of note. Whatever they fixed, hopefully it remains!
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Wanted to echo what you said. I was in the same exact boat! I haven't used 4G in months because I would loose data constantly and people would tell me that when they called it would go into fast busy. I am now hitting 24 hours on 4G after the radio update and not a complaint! I certainly hope this is the fix:good:
Side note: I haven't noticed an increase in signal but as long as my data stays I don't care.
I've had a big jump in speed. I live just outside a 4G area and before these radios I would get about 2 bars and of was alright to use it, but used WiFi most of the time. Now I would rather use my 4G because its faster than my WiFi, lol.
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I had a good first day with it, it seemed to hold signal at work better (which it usually drops in certain areas of building a bit). Still same visible bars and such...I'm not prepared to declare it better yet, but am optimistic that it will be an improvement for me.
Everyone has LTE phones here in LA no 30mbps for me.
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Same old same old for me. Constant data drops... 55 percent without signal time. usually 44 percent without signal on the older radios (house is built like a bomb shelter, literally) so if anything, its worse now.
bah humbug

Horrible Wi-Fi strength and speed

I really hope there is an update to the Wi-Fi driver. Comparing it to my HTC one, s3 and nexus 4, it always has a lot weaker strength and speeds which is a little disappointing since its WiFi only. Has anyone else noticed this? In many spots the Wi-Fi will not even show where my other device still have half strength. I LOVE this tab but this only one issue is bugging me
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No, this has much better wifi than the Nexus 4. The Nexus 4 has wifi driver issues.
The Wifi in this tablet has been the best I have ever owned, laptops and phones included. The range is incredible. What I thought was a dead space in my home isn't with this.
Maybe you're holding it wrong?
This makes me upset. Maybe I have something defective. I'm def not holding it wrong. Is there any apps that judge WiFi strength
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This makes me upset. Maybe I have something defective. I'm def not holding it wrong. Is there any apps that judge WiFi strength
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Yeah it's called the WiFi signal indicator in the top right of your screen. Not trying to be an ass, but that's what its there for.
I have fantastic WiFi on my device. I get better upload speed on it than any other device in my house.
Try changing the settings from Auto select to 2.5ghz only under advanced in WiFi settings.
I was going to test this and then I noticed it connected itself to my wifi a block from my house. I am very impressed to say the least !
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Agree that the Wifi speed and sensitivity on this blows many other devices in my home away.
bradm23 said:
This makes me upset. Maybe I have something defective. I'm def not holding it wrong. Is there any apps that judge WiFi strength
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Try the app "Wifi Analyzer"
I am also experiencing slow wifi, with my nexus 7 2g I am not able to watch a movie over the google movies app not even youtube I hope the resolve the problem. all my other tablets are able to stream without problem (Acer iconia tab, Sero 7 pro) I have a 10mbps ISP

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