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I have no idea what is going on, but my 3G speeds have gone to ****. I've tried everything to get them back... I just don't get it...
This is with 2 'coverage' bars on CM6...
fldash said:
I have no idea what is going on, but my 3G speeds have gone to ****. I've tried everything to get them back... I just don't get it...
This is with 2 'coverage' bars on CM6...
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How long ago were you getting good speeds? Because it could just be the Sprint network, because they have gotten a lot of new people because of the new phones to come out, and that could be the cause.
I've had my phone since Aug 11th... So almost a month and a half... My speeds have just got worse and worse as time has gone on... Maybe the network is overloaded, I don't know... but man it sucks.
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I have no idea what is going on, but my 3G speeds have gone to ****. I've tried everything to get them back... I just don't get it...
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This is with 2 'coverage' bars on CM6...
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Try rebooting. I was having that same issue some weeks back. I was hitting > 14.4kbps on 3g and 3.2mbps on 4g. I did a quick restart and 3g shot back up to 600ish kbps.
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Try rebooting. I was having that same issue some weeks back. I was hitting > 14.4kbps on 3g and 3.2mbps on 4g. I did a quick restart and 3g shot back up to 600ish kbps.
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sometimes this is the case, not just the evo, but having to reboot the wife's hero also.
I notice that at night my speeds drop dramatically. I can play youtube vids in the day time without any stutter but once it's about 8pm the numbers on speedtest drop and I have constant buffering. I don't know if it's because everyone is home and bandwith is being used a little heavier or if sprint automatically drops the bandwith at night.
I've tried rebooting multiple times with no luck... looks like I'm either being capped or in high usage area...
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I've tried rebooting multiple times with no luck... looks like I'm either being capped or in high usage area...
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your ping is pretty terrible too - did you try other servers?
My 3G got really bad right before the unofficial launch of 4G here. Not quite as low as what you show, but BAD compared to what it was.
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I notice that at night my speeds drop dramatically. I can play youtube vids in the day time without any stutter but once it's about 8pm the numbers on speedtest drop and I have constant buffering. I don't know if it's because everyone is home and bandwith is being used a little heavier or if sprint automatically drops the bandwith at night.
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Welcome to Sprint, mine is exactly the same. I can rarely get over 500 kbps at night but can usually get 1 mbps or better during the day. The weird one is that at night my upload speed is almost always higher then my download speeds.
Night before last I noticed my browser was unusually sluggish so I did a speed test. Download was 39 kbps upload was 150 kbps, did a test the following morning and it was 1101 kbps down and 550 kbps up.
This is in a very rural area, so I seriously doubt if the tower I am connecting to is getting overwhelmed with bandwidth usage.
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My 3G got really bad right before the unofficial launch of 4G here. Not quite as low as what you show, but BAD compared to what it was.
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Haha, I can hope my man...
Wow, yeah that's pretty bad. I am getting 960Kbps (1040 max) down and 88Kbps (158 max) up speed on one bar (-89dBm)... ran Speedtest right now to check what I'm getting.
Stuff might very well be congested over there, although one way to for-sure rule out bandwidth capping is are you doing anything to cause them to cap your bandwidth?
I'm consistently hitting right around 400 kbs down and 800 kbs up, the only time I hit higher is when I'm roaming then it's 1 mb down.
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Wow, yeah that's pretty bad. I am getting 960Kbps (1040 max) down and 88Kbps (158 max) up speed on one bar (-89dBm)... ran Speedtest right now to check what I'm getting.
Stuff might very well be congested over there, although one way to for-sure rule out bandwidth capping is are you doing anything to cause them to cap your bandwidth?
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Not that I can think of.. I use my phone a lot, but it's not like I'm browsing torrents or anything... Most of my bandwidth is probably youtube and ROM downloads...
Does the rom you run have any affect on 3G speeds? I've been running CM6 forever though basically...
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Does the rom you run have any affect on 3G speeds? I've been running CM6 forever though basically...
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I'm on CM6, the 9/19 nightly I think (or 9/20 I can't remember). I don't think it has any affect on 3G speeds. I flashed the latest radio and PRI if that makes a difference (didn't notice one).
Hey all are the GS2 from Sprint and att superior to our tmobile version? hardware wise? I am new to rooting and all, and I just rooted my phone and it runs super better with all the bloatware removed.. My antutu bench scored like 5460. is that good? and when I freshly reboot i scored a 3800 in the quadrant. anyone know when an OC kernal will be out?
first off all benchmarks really don't mean much. they are cool to tote around but in the end of the day it makes something better than another.
lets just say that hardware wise the processors are faster on the sprint and att&t. Not stating they are but lets just pretend. What does that really mean? It'd take 0.1 seconds more to open something on the T-mobile. wow is that really relevant?
lets talk about things that matter. screen size. attt is smaller. fail for me. some might like a smaller phone and think 4.52" is too large. if it is go attt. Now sprint is big also. So what other differences is there. More roms on sprint. at least right now. that should be important to people on xda but the phone is young. I think you only need like 4 good roms anyway. Once we have those it'd be different.
really is a slight hardware difference important?
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first off all benchmarks really don't mean much. they are cool to tote around but in the end of the day it makes something better than another.
lets just say that hardware wise the processors are faster on the sprint and att&t. Not stating they are but lets just pretend. What does that really mean? It'd take 0.1 seconds more to open something on the T-mobile. wow is that really relevant?
lets talk about things that matter. screen size. attt is smaller. fail for me. some might like a smaller phone and think 4.52" is too large. if it is go attt. Now sprint is big also. So what other differences is there. More roms on sprint. at least right now. that should be important to people on xda but the phone is young. I think you only need like 4 good roms anyway. Once we have those it'd be different.
really is a slight hardware difference important?
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Very well put sir.
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Touchwiz is hardware accelerated for mali-400 which is more powerful than are gpu. The adreno 220 have better shaders and renders than the mali-400 but the mali is still more powerful. Our version of the galaxy s2 is not hardware accelerated like the other ones. Snapdragon S3 processors are optimized for battery life. Being asynchronous processors meaning even though you have a 1.5
dual core in your phone your phone is never actually reaching 1.5 in both cores at the same time. Both cores work independently from each other. This can make things lag as both processors scale differently from each other. But if programmed correctly they are on the same level with exynos processor if not better.
Thanks! Yes I agree I love my phone, and it runs every single app including every game like a champ, and I do love the bigger screen. I cant wait for more roms to come out for our phone. Anyone know when we will receive a OC kernal to start over clocking it?
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Thanks! Yes I agree I love my phone, and it runs every single app including every game like a champ, and I do love the bigger screen. I cant wait for more roms to come out for our phone. Anyone know when we will receive a OC kernal to start over clocking it?
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overclock? is there a reason to overclock except for (useless) bench marking? I'm still trying to find a game/app that this phone has a hard time running. The game deadspace runs 100% flawless!
I cant seem to download Dead Space.. from the flexion site, but I am downloading dungeon defenders now.
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overclock? is there a reason to overclock except for (useless) bench marking? I'm still trying to find a game/app that this phone has a hard time running. The game deadspace runs 100% flawless!
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Your right no need for overclock this processor is one of the higher clocks and we still get better battery life compared to the others variants. Dead space is a good example on optimization for the gpu for us. As soon as we get some kernels and optimized roms are phone will be sitting right next to the other beast.
att and sprint dont offer up to 42 mbps speed data speeds
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Touchwiz is hardware accelerated for mali-400 which is more powerful than are gpu. The adreno 220 have better shaders and renders than the mali-400 but the mali is still more powerful. Our version of the galaxy s2 is not hardware accelerated like the other ones. Snapdragon S3 processors are optimized for battery life. Being asynchronous processors meaning even though you have a 1.5
dual core in your phone your phone is never actually reaching 1.5 in both cores at the same time. Both cores work independently from each other. This can make things lag as both processors scale differently from each other. But if programmed correctly they are on the same level with exynos processor if not better.
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This. The big difference from a UI perspective is the lack of hardware acceleration on the TMO version. In all likelihood, it will still that way as well.
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att and sprint dont offer up to 42 mbps speed data speeds
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show me some one that gets 42mb. show me someone who gets over 20mb consistantly.
In philadelphia I get 3-5mb with sprint 4g. I get 4-6mb with my gsII. Other cities may get other results
I can say from personal experience that the Sprint version kicks the snot out of this one. Wish I never sold mine and switched to this. but I couldn't pass up 30.00 a month for 5gb that I can actually use.
The Sprint version has barely any lag at all. Using the Tmobile one, it seems so slow that even my Nexus S can walk right by at times. I am seriously considering returning this and getting the htc Sensation or G2X. That's how much it bothers me.
Heck, if a fairly priced new in box Tmobile Android pops up on Craigslist, I will pick it up right away. 560 with tax for something that lags about the same as the Nexus S doesn't seem reasonable.
I know some folks are going to say benchmarks and all. But this is reality for me. I am currently using the S2 and the Sprint NS4G until the port finishes.
Oh and this morning, I did hit 23mbps on a speed test. But to be fair, it was 8am on a Sunday morning. I average anywhere from 3-17mbps where I live.
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I can say from personal experience that the Sprint version kicks the snot out of this one. Wish I never sold mine and switched to this. but I couldn't pass up 30.00 a month for 5gb that I can actually use.
The Sprint version has barely any lag at all. Using the Tmobile one, it seems so slow that even my Nexus S can walk right by at times. I am seriously considering returning this and getting the htc Sensation or G2X. That's how much it bothers me.
Heck, if a fairly priced new in box Tmobile Android pops up on Craigslist, I will pick it up right away. 560 with tax for something that lags about the same as the Nexus S doesn't seem reasonable.
I know some folks are going to say benchmarks and all. But this is reality for me. I am currently using the S2 and the Sprint NS4G until the port finishes.
Oh and this morning, I did hit 23mbps on a speed test. But to be fair, it was 8am on a Sunday morning. I average anywhere from 3-17mbps where I live.
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Yep, this is pretty much the trade-off. With the optimizations going on over in the Dev threads, I have been able to get this phone to behave a fair amount more smoothly, but it's still pretty much a joke compared to the exynos versions.
On the other hand, my data speeds absolutely crush what I was getting with Sprint's wimax in NYC, so there you have it.
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I can say from personal experience that the Sprint version kicks the snot out of this one. Wish I never sold mine and switched to this. but I couldn't pass up 30.00 a month for 5gb that I can actually use.
The Sprint version has barely any lag at all. Using the Tmobile one, it seems so slow that even my Nexus S can walk right by at times. I am seriously considering returning this and getting the htc Sensation or G2X. That's how much it bothers me.
Heck, if a fairly priced new in box Tmobile Android pops up on Craigslist, I will pick it up right away. 560 with tax for something that lags about the same as the Nexus S doesn't seem reasonable.
I know some folks are going to say benchmarks and all. But this is reality for me. I am currently using the S2 and the Sprint NS4G until the port finishes.
Oh and this morning, I did hit 23mbps on a speed test. But to be fair, it was 8am on a Sunday morning. I average anywhere from 3-17mbps where I live.
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I just moved over from the Sprint version today. I will agree that the Sprint version is snappier but the service was horrible, like 300kbytes average, no thanks i will deal with a very tiny bit of lag for better service.
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jessejames111981 said:
show me some one that gets 42mb. show me someone who gets over 20mb consistantly.
In philadelphia I get 3-5mb with sprint 4g. I get 4-6mb with my gsII. Other cities may get other results
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The higher the theoretical top speed, the higher the real-world speed. Bottom line is that the tmo version is faster thanks to the processor's ability to run faster and tmo's network being way faster than both Sprint and ATT.
And to the guy who is having lag issues, I'm sorry man, that's not normal at all. I came from both the Sensation and G2x and while the G2x was the faster of those 2, my Herc blows both away. Maybe try an exchange before you downgrade back to the Sensation or G2x?
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jessejames111981 said:
show me some one that gets 42mb. show me someone who gets over 20mb consistantly.
In philadelphia I get 3-5mb with sprint 4g. I get 4-6mb with my gsII. Other cities may get other results
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Check out the city .....
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The higher the theoretical top speed, the higher the real-world speed. Bottom line is that the tmo version is faster thanks to the processor's ability to run faster and tmo's network being way faster than both Sprint and ATT.
And to the guy who is having lag issues, I'm sorry man, that's not normal at all. I came from both the Sensation and G2x and while the G2x was the faster of those 2, my Herc blows both away. Maybe try an exchange before you downgrade back to the Sensation or G2x?
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He's comparing it to the exynos SGS2 tho -- no amount of exchanging is going to make the TMO version look any better in that comparison.
This thread makes me sad I sold, my international exynos version for this
I was using it on att gophone $50 unlimited plan, getting 800 haha, which was ok for simple browsing.
Their prices are ridiculous so signing with.then is out of the question.
after owning it 3 months I sold it , and used the money to get this so I can be on a plan with high speed data
I miss hardware acceleration, and some games running very smoothly.
I liked the big screen, capacitive buttons, and Data speed.
I know I will get other phones and sell this eventually so I don't let it bother me......I try not to lol
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Idk about lag, but my phone doesn't lag at all. Fastest phone I've ever had.
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it was a big deal for me at first, but for my needs it is plenty capable
I miss the high graphics, but realize that good games aren't made to run on one device. If a good game comes out, developers want that game to run well on all devices, so long as they meet the sudden requirements.
Maybe i'm wrong
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Ok, I have charters 100mb service at home with has a Belkin N150 router hooked up to it...I do lots of speed tests and rarely will I get over 25mb on my speed tests...Usually between 20-25. Shouldn't I be getting alot more than that? I realize I loose some speed going thru the router, but that much? Is there anything I can do to improve? Does this sound normal to you guys? Many thanks
P.S. The speed test numbers are done from my galaxy nexus
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Ok, I have charters 100mb service at home with has a Belkin N150 router hooked up to it...I do lots of speed tests and rarely will I get over 25mb on my speed tests...Usually between 20-25. Shouldn't I be getting alot more than that? I realize I loose some speed going thru the router, but that much? Is there anything I can do to improve? Does this sound normal to you guys? Many thanks
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Depends on what else is using your internet
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Usually its just my phone and my galaxy 10.1 tab, but they are never online at the same time.
I read somewhere on here that the wifi on the GNexus is not that great and wasn't all that fast, the LTE is usually faster. I may be wrong.
Do you live in a large apartment building with extremely crowded wifi channels? I know that my Gnex gets about 7 Mbps (36 Cable connection) on 2.4 GHz because it's so crowded. When I switch the router to 5 GHz it gets about 34 Mbps because those channels are empty.
I have 35/35 fios that actually hits 42/30 on the every single computer and laptop at home. I have NEVER gotten higher then 29 on my phone and like the OP I usually only get 20-25. Buff McBig (great name btw) What do get on speedtest with your phone on wifi can you post a screen?
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I have 35/35 fios that actually hits 42/30 on the every single computer and laptop at home. I have NEVER gotten higher then 29 on my phone and like the OP I usually only get 20-25. Buff McBig (great name btw) What do get on speedtest with your phone on wifi can you post a screen?
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Apparently I exaggerated because I can only average 29 or 30 and max at 32. That is with 3 devices all samsung. The others are gtab 10.1 and sprint gs2. My transformer prime can't connect to 5ghz.
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every mobbile device is basically limited by its hardware, memory/cpu and throughput bottleneck. you cant get much higher than 30Mbps on the nexus as it's hitting hardware limits due to a mobile device.
thru the generations speedtest results have gone up though.
I was thinking why the hell do we need this 4G /LTE speed anyway if it's going to be such a battery hog? I catch myself switching to 3G to preserve battery all the time and on 3G for almost 95% of the day. What do you use the LTE speed for that I'm missing out on? As much as I despise anything Apple, no wonder they aren't in any hurry to bring it to the iphone. If you' asked me it was a great ploy by verizon to increase speed and then get rid of unlimited plans to make more money.
Just ranting. Missing my thunderbolt's HUGE extended battery.
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I agree 100%. I have a GSM Galaxy Nexus on T-Mobile and I think the HSPA+ speeds are sufficiently fast enough for what I do on the phone (browsing, Facebook, maybe watch an occasional video etc). 4G would just unnecessarily rape my battery.
In fact, I was a Sprint customer before and their poor excuse for "3G" was so slow, that I was floored when I got speeds up to 9-10mbps on T-Mobile as opposed to .98-1Mbps on Sprint.
I have a 3800 mah battery I bought for $20 on ebay, and it supports nfc. Problem solved. I use LTE for netflix, youtube, podcasts, ect. I could live without it, but it's insanely fast compared to vzw evdo 3g.
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That's almost like asking why we need high speed internet at home when dial-up did everything we needed.
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Im not going to say that 4g speeds are unnecessary or worthless but I dont use it. As I explained in another post the other day. We get great 3g coverage here and I can save alot of battery running 3g instead of 4g. With the exception of video everything works great. Video just needs a few extra seconds to buffer. But lets not blame 4g for getting rid of unlimited plans. Getting rid of unlimited was going to happen anyways.
DirgeExtinction- That's almost like asking why we need high speed internet at home when dial-up did everything we needed.
Almost? Not even close. There is no advantage to use 4g over 3g for 90% of the things your going to do on the internet. Assuming 3g coverage is as good as 4g your not going to pull a webpage up noticeably faster, Google Nav isnt going to run any better, and music streaming apps should be just fine. With your analogy even the most basic internet tasks were improved considerably. Do you even remember what dialup was like?
People said the same thing during the transition from Edge to 3G. "Where'd my battery go? 3G uses too much battery. I'm always going to keep it on Edge." The chipsets and batteries will catch up, and in a year or so, turning off LTE will seem as silly as "leaving it on Edge."
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People said the same thing during the transition from Edge to 3G. "Where'd my battery go? 3G uses too much battery. I'm always going to keep it on Edge." The chipsets and batteries will catch up, and in a year or so, turning off LTE will seem as silly as "leaving it on Edge."
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Thank you!
I couldn't have said it better than myself.
LTE is 1st gen tech in current devices. Of COURSE it has issues such as battery drain.
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Im not going to say that 4g speeds are unnecessary or worthless but I dont use it. As I explained in another post the other day. We get great 3g coverage here and I can save alot of battery running 3g instead of 4g. With the exception of video everything works great. Video just needs a few extra seconds to buffer. But lets not blame 4g for getting rid of unlimited plans. Getting rid of unlimited was going to happen anyways.
DirgeExtinction- That's almost like asking why we need high speed internet at home when dial-up did everything we needed.
Almost? Not even close. There is no advantage to use 4g over 3g for 90% of the things your going to do on the internet. Assuming 3g coverage is as good as 4g your not going to pull a webpage up noticeably faster, Google Nav isnt going to run any better, and music streaming apps should be just fine. With your analogy even the most basic internet tasks were improved considerably. Do you even remember what dialup was like?
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That is entirely subjective to the user.
And...yes, LTE DOES browse faster. You would be wrong there. Is it fast enough to matter? Once again, entirely subjective.
I can get where I need to go in a Hyundai Elantra. I rather do it in a Porsche.
Fyi, lte is not the 4g protocol.
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Fyi, lte is not the 4g protocol.
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Yes it is.
http://www.itu.int/net/pressoffice/press_releases/2010/48.aspx
As the most advanced technologies currently defined for global wireless mobile broadband communications, IMT-Advanced is considered as “4G”, although it is recognized that this term, while undefined, may also be applied to the forerunners of these technologies, LTE and WiMax, and to other evolved 3G technologies providing a substantial level of improvement in performance and capabilities with respect to the initial third generation systems now deployed.
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Leave it on 4G and be done with it! Mine is on 4G all day long and the battery gets low... I charge it!
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Also, it is not just HYPE. Everything is MUCH better with 4G than with 3G.
Why the hype? Because it's fast, really fast. When your battery gets low, charge it.
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Excuses, excuses. Battery life was excellent, actually about as good as my Hspa+
nexus, using my old s2 skyrocket. If we don't need "lte", then we don't need
high speed internet at home either. Browsing, watching videos, etc.. is
substantially faster on Lte. With the certain exception of some phones, battery
life on Lte is not that bad, and will improve drastically with the newer releases this year.
If you don't think it's worth it, turn it off. Personally I think it's great and hate it when I'm in an area without it. It's not hype to me it makes everything better faster. The best part is, you can turn it off when you want better battery life.
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Have you USED the verizon 4g? Its soooooo ****ing fast. It even rivals the speed of the internet I get at home with comcast. When my brother is hogging the internet, I just switch to tether and use it on my home computer and it's awesome. Yes, it does eat up battery, and I usually switch it off if I'm going somewhere for an extended period of time. But when I'm actively using my phone, why would I not want to download at 2 megabytes per second?
Your ranting argument is hilarious...
Why do we need dual core smartphones, all it does is eat up battery...
I totally don't care about lte cause with hsdpa 42Mbps I'm fine with it. I'm sure at some point I'll change my mind. But I'm not looking forward to lte battery drain until the chip sets get smaller and more efficient in a few years.
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I totally don't care about lte cause with hsdpa 42Mbps I'm fine with it. I'm sure at some point I'll change my mind. But I'm not looking forward to lte battery drain until the chip sets get smaller and more efficient in a few years.
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Except that...the Galaxy Nexus doesn't support 42Mbps from Tmo.
If couldn't turn it off I could understand the *****ing, but you can. Problem solved. And that is the price you pay for adopting 1st/2nd Gen tech. You're making it cheaper and more efficient for us guys when we decide to go for it. I played a with a gs2 skyrocket today and was impressed it got 3 megabytes dl speed. Faster than my 1.5 megabyte cable internet hardwired. I wish I could test run it just to see how bad battery is but I'm cool with it. I would probably adopt lte faster if carriers gave us a decent amount bucket data plans for the price, not to mention tether for the same data. If I had something to ***** about it would be the measly data plan, with no tether, you get for $30 that you can go through in 30 minutes if you wanted. As a matter of fact you should. Adopting it early and then *****ing about a trivial problem instead of a real problem means you like getting bent over. And you happily paid for it when you got the phone. And you cant say you didn't because you knew there hasn't been a magic phone with lte. Yet. And I don't see apple pulling it off for at least another generation of lte phones.
bow chicka wow wow.
I guess I'm glad that it's there if I want it. But functionally, I've never once actually gone and toggled it on because I was doing something that I wanted more speed for. So maybe I'm not the target customer.
Like most things that service providers do in the public sphere, I think the excessive marketing that goes into the feature is a complete disservice to everyone, and I think the mindset that demands new features to be hyped up like this is a complete disservice to the industry. It's like some kind of trainwreck symbiosis. But the way the advertising wing of these companies is set up, a prominent suggestion that 4g is anything less than BLAZING FAST AND AWESOME is not going to happen.
I do think that the correct implementation of this on current phones should be prominently featured toggles to turn it on/off at will, instead of a setting buried under a few layers of menus. I remember when I first got my phone, there was no way to set a 4g toggle that just performed the function, instead of being a shortcut to that menu. Custom roms offer that. I wonder if Sense et al have these toggles built into them by default.
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Have you USED the verizon 4g? Its soooooo ****ing fast. It even rivals the speed of the internet I get at home with comcast. When my brother is hogging the internet, I just switch to tether and use it on my home computer and it's awesome. Yes, it does eat up battery, and I usually switch it off if I'm going somewhere for an extended period of time. But when I'm actively using my phone, why would I not want to download at 2 megabytes per second?
Your ranting argument is hilarious...
Why do we need dual core smartphones, all it does is eat up battery...
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ranting is not an argument. ranting is....well, ranting dude. It's my opinion. Not arguing anything.
And yes, I have used the LTE. I've used it since the very first day the Thunderbolt came out (first LTE phone). The point of my "argument" was that I (stress, I) really don't need it for anything I (again, I) do on my phone. Accessing info I need is fine on my 1.2 Mbit/s 3G speed.
The comparisons with home Internet speeds and dual core processors is rubbish. Totally different scenarios. CPU speed and home Internet is necessary. But please, don't tell me that we need 20+ Mbit/s on our phones to watch the latest viral video of the guy fingering his dog's nose on YouTube.
Here is another one for you, lets just get rid of this damn youtube.
I just wanted to see what people were wasting bandwidth on.
I do love the answer that hardware will catchup eventually and we don't have to "argue" these points.
The firmware on my wife's SPH-D710 was just upgraded to FH13. Based on my reading here, that upgrade included an improvement to the 3G modem. If that is true, this is a pretty sad phone - let me explain.
I downloaded Speedtest to my phone, a 2+ year old HTC EVO and here phone. I then ran Speedtest on both. (Actually, it was much harder than that. The GPS on her phone was simply not working, and Speedtest thought I was near Wichita, not southeast Michigan. Even after rebooting to get the GPS working, Speedtest still thought I was hundred of miles form here. Fortunately, the second-to-last server listed overlapped with the servers listed on my phone.)
To be clear: I did one phone then the next. I turned off the WiFi and help both phones in the same location.
HTC EVO: Ping - 192 ms, download - 2531 kbps, upload - 612 kbps
Samsung E4GT: Ping - 173 ms, download - 1789 kbps, upload - 520 kbps
The only difference is that my phone is rooted and I am running AdFree, but that certainly cannot account for the huge difference in performance.
I was actually quite pleased with my wife's phone until I a) ran headlong into the very poor GPS performance and b) saw the poor modem performance. I understand now why HTC phones cost more...
Cool story bro.
Trolls don't take labor day off?
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lol wow.. dunno bout fh13 but fh23 works better for me.. either way this phone is beast.. maybe just yours is crap?
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I thought it was common knowledge that the antennas on the e4gt were a little weaker than most, that seems to be a common trend in Sammy phones. If you want strong antennas I'd recommend Motorolla, however the software on their phones is ****. Motoblur, bleh. Regardless, Samsung still makes the best phones on the market and smother everything else out right now. The S2 helds its title until the S3 came out, nothing tops a Sammy phone but another Sammy I believe the smooth performance and top of the line GPU/CPU/screen is a good trade off.
My apologies if this sounded like a troll message. My wife's phone is clearly faster than mine with regard to processing speed. This is clearly noticeable when updating apps. My post was more a matter of disappointment - why it should clearly excel in some areas but seem to fall flat on others, especially given that it is a much newer device.
I just downloaded and installed Quadrant Standard on both phones. My perceptions were correct - the Samsung is MUCH faster than the EVO. So, again I ask/wonder, why the much slower 3G speed and poor GPS performance?
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My apologies if this sounded like a troll message. My wife's phone is clearly faster than mine with regard to processing speed. This is clearly noticeable when updating apps. My post was more a matter of disappointment - why it should clearly excel in some areas but seem to fall flat on others, especially given that it is a much newer device.
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Your Samsung radio is not going to do better than the HTC radio, first and foremost you have to accept that. Then you can move on to trying out other modems in an attempt to improve signal and download/upload speeds.
There's a LONG list of them that have been released since back in February; you'll find the downloads for each in a stickied post in the development. It doesn't matter what kernel or ROM you are running, you can swap out modem builds at will. If one doesn't work, flash another but always make sure you update profile & PRL after each flash and before running any sort of speed tests.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1764210
Happy flashing!
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The firmware on my wife's SPH-D710 was just upgraded to FH13. Based on my reading here, that upgrade included an improvement to the 3G modem. If that is true, this is a pretty sad phone - let me explain.
I downloaded Speedtest to my phone, a 2+ year old HTC EVO and here phone. I then ran Speedtest on both. (Actually, it was much harder than that. The GPS on her phone was simply not working, and Speedtest thought I was near Wichita, not southeast Michigan. Even after rebooting to get the GPS working, Speedtest still thought I was hundred of miles form here. Fortunately, the second-to-last server listed overlapped with the servers listed on my phone.)
To be clear: I did one phone then the next. I turned off the WiFi and help both phones in the same location.
HTC EVO: Ping - 192 ms, download - 2531 kbps, upload - 612 kbps
Samsung E4GT: Ping - 173 ms, download - 1789 kbps, upload - 520 kbps
The only difference is that my phone is rooted and I am running AdFree, but that certainly cannot account for the huge difference in performance.
I was actually quite pleased with my wife's phone until I a) ran headlong into the very poor GPS performance and b) saw the poor modem performance. I understand now why HTC phones cost more...
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Fh13 is battery improvements, if you update your prl that will help with download speeds. There are way to many variables for data speeds to get reliable info. 1.7 mbs download is damn good on 3g, I wish I got those speeds, I get .5 MBS if I'm lucky in Sacramento, ca. So anyway unless you have one of the lte phones that Sprint offers there is no better phone then the S2. And those phones are by no means leaps and bounds ahead of this one.
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Thanks for the feedback. I am not an expert with regard to these matters and had assumed that a) the the newer phone would have a faster modem than the older one and b) the download speeds I recorded were not out of the ordinary. My expectations have been reset and I will enjoy her phone (when I can) for what it does well.
Those speed differences are small, I don't think you will notice. Also the faster processor will probably still load Web pages faster even with the slightly lower network speeds.
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For those who have been kind enough to reply: I finally rooted the phone today and reran the test. Post root, the results are:
Samsung E4GT: Ping - 161 ms, download - 2339 kbps, upload - 641kbps
These values are essentially the same as the HTC - no complaints.
Wow really? A thread whining about 1.7mb on 3g... That's f'in good speed for 3g.. There's plenty of us who can't even get past the kb's. Go get yourself an Evo and enjoy your HTC reloading screen...
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groston said:
For those who have been kind enough to reply: I finally rooted the phone today and reran the test. Post root, the results are:
Samsung E4GT: Ping - 161 ms, download - 2339 kbps, upload - 641kbps
These values are essentially the same as the HTC - no complaints.
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You'll find there is a whole lot to love about this phone and with the amazing developers in this forum your choices for customization are endless. Getting rid of my E4GT was one of the hardest things I've done (as far as my gadgets are concerned) but I'm also enjoying the SGSIII.
groston said:
For those who have been kind enough to reply: I finally rooted the phone today and reran the test. Post root, the results are:
Samsung E4GT: Ping - 161 ms, download - 2339 kbps, upload - 641kbps
These values are essentially the same as the HTC - no complaints.
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You have to understand something, network speeds tests are not exactly reliable measures. If you want comparable measurements, you have to run multiple tests on the 2 phones using the identical server at the same time. Then you average the tests. Otherwise, what you have is one data point, testing from a server at different times. So one point may have been when server was less loaded, or the network was less loaded. And even then, your original tests were close enough that you would not notice it, and to be "underwhelmed" just because of that is silly.
Root has absolutely nothing to do with data speeds. What accounted for the improvement is most likely a decreased load on the server or Sprint's network. I have seen much more variation than that on my own phone, simply by testing at different times of the day.
worrying about a 500 k difference on what appears to be pretty great 3g(remember, some sprint users get literally 100kbps) seems kinda bourgeois. how much faster do you need your porn to download?
austin420 said:
worrying about a 500 k difference on what appears to be pretty great 3g(remember, some sprint users get literally 100kbps) seems kinda bourgeois. how much faster do you need your porn to download?
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You ever try and jerk with the video skipping totally messes up your rythem
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cas8180 said:
You ever try and jerk with the video skipping totally messes up your rythem
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This.
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Since the htc was rooted isn't it possible that the sprint proxy had been removed? Nowhere in the post did I see where the OP even stated what ROM he was running.....