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All,
I am running the v23 ROM and have the following problem.
I had an alarm set for 07:15am Pacific Time US. I got a SIM error on my t-mobile service (phone was showing gprs, but no support) for a while. Looked to be a t-mobile issue. Anyhow that got resolved. I disabled the alarm (no bell shone on home screen, alarm1 disabled, alarm 2 disabled). However it didn't really disable. So now I am in Florida and it goes off at 10:00am every day. There is nowhere that I can find to reset this. It is kinda like having a phone with Tourette's syndrome it shouts and screams at immorpotune times. Any ideas how to locate the offending alarm and nuke it?
Thanks
C
seabird said:
All,
I am running the v23 ROM and have the following problem.
I had an alarm set for 07:15am Pacific Time US. I got a SIM error on my t-mobile service (phone was showing gprs, but no support) for a while. Looked to be a t-mobile issue. Anyhow that got resolved. I disabled the alarm (no bell shone on home screen, alarm1 disabled, alarm 2 disabled). However it didn't really disable. So now I am in Florida and it goes off at 10:00am every day. There is nowhere that I can find to reset this. It is kinda like having a phone with Tourette's syndrome it shouts and screams at immorpotune times. Any ideas how to locate the offending alarm and nuke it?
Thanks
C
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Dang. That sounds like the "phantom alarm" issue with 6.0. This is the first case I've heard of in 6.1... I don't use rickwyatt's ROM, so I don't know what apps it has included. Does it use Oxios Alarms?
AHHHHHHHHH !!!!!!!!!!!
Sorry, I had to let it out. I'm sick and tired of this DAMN ALARM myself. Seriously, it starts SCREAMING, LITERALLY at the most random times especially in important settings. Last week, I was in University in my class when a group was presenting and out of nowhere, my phone starts going crazy. It was so embarassing because it's so LOUD and the entire class kept staring at me and i couldn't get it to switch off. Eventually, I turned it off but then 15 mins later, it happened again. It's honestly getting very annoying cause it keeps happening randomly even when the alarm's off.
I know how to fix it and I did fix it but it still happens. I have no idea how to get rid of it forever because honestly, it's the most annoying thing when it starts going crazy in class/meetings or anywhere other than your house.
If I find a fix for it, I'll post it here.
I think this is an error in the programming , but there may be a way to (band-aid) fix it. Meaning it will come back but you can continually fix it using this program. Go and find SK Tools (lite version) and theres an option to clear out alarms and notifications. That should (band-aid) fix it.
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I think this is an error in the programming , but there may be a way to (band-aid) fix it. Meaning it will come back but you can continually fix it using this program. Go and find SK Tools (lite version) and theres an option to clear out alarms and notifications. That should (band-aid) fix it.
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Yeah, That's what I've done but it keeps happening still. It doesn't happen for a few days then bam, it comes back. It really is annoying. Oh well...
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Yeah, That's what I've done but it keeps happening still. It doesn't happen for a few days then bam, it comes back. It really is annoying. Oh well...
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I am going to see what I can do by checking out the registry and hopefully I will get back to you guys asap.
ok, guys I don't know how many of you are experiencing this Phantom Alarm issue but it seriously is bothering me.
I'm running Kavana's 6.1 ROM and used SK Tools to delete notifications from the notifications queue. Even though, I deleted all alarms - I still experienced the same issue today morning. Instead of 8 to 10 popups, i had only 2 so atleast, that's better but seriously it's PRETTY ANNOYING!!!
I'm going to look into this and try posting a fix. If someone came across a permanant fix, please post here. Thanks.
- lukybandit
OMG! I just checked the notifications queue again. The DAMN alarms are back again. I just deleted them last night. Jeez
So far, I've only found one fix and that is using SKTools. I don't know how to get rid of these for good.
I'm going to try again, delete them - reboot and see if they come back. Hopefully not. If not, I'll have to look for an another way to fix this damned bug.
EDIT: WHT THE HELL?! I deleted them again and same issue, their back. AHH, this is really getting to me because it goes off in my university classes, during lectures/exams (even when the phone is on silent) and even if the alarm is turned off. It's happened before so it's not the ROM, I have Kavana's ROM and I've experienced this with WM6 as well. Ok, I seriously need another way to fix this. Yeah, I know I can shut the phone but what about the other times I have it on? This is annoying.
I wish someone could get to the bottom of this. I heard about the problem with WM6.0, so I never set alarms, just in case.
I've already used the alarms once with WM6.1, figuring it was a non-issue, but I'll definitely wait on using them again until someone says this issue is resolved.
So far, I haven't experienced any phantom alarms with Ricky v23 yet.
Bro, I'm runnning Kavana's ROM for a while now and this started happening since 2 weeks. I never had this issue before and I've checked everything and it just won't go away. I shouldn't have set any DAMN alarms. It's so damn annoying.
I'm still looking for the fix. I've only come across only one fix so far and it's the SkTools and for some reason, even if I delete them - it comes back again.
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I wish someone could get to the bottom of this. I heard about the problem with WM6.0, so I never set alarms, just in case.
I've already used the alarms once with WM6.1, figuring it was a non-issue, but I'll definitely wait on using them again until someone says this issue is resolved.
So far, I haven't experienced any phantom alarms with Ricky v23 yet.
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I don't think this issue is as prevalent in 6.1 as it was in 6.0. I'm using Kavana's 080408 which comes with Oxios Alarms embedded in the ROM. I haven't had to delete the Notification Queues in SKTools once. However, when I did delete the Queues in 6.0, it fixed my alarm bug permanently.
Ok guys, good news. I just checked my notifications queue in SKTools and the damn bug is GONE and hope it's gone forever. Give this a try - Here's the instructions:
Phantom Alarm Bug
There is a reported issue of multiple alarms going off even though the alarm is turned off in Settings. There is no known permanent fix at this point.
Phantom alarms can be cleaned up by following these instructions:
1. Load SKTools Smartphone Edition (Clean up and uninstaller utility)
2. Select View -> Maintenance -> Notifications Queue
3. Scroll to the bottom of the list and there should be multiple entries already checked for “Clock.exe”.
4. Select Action -> Delete marked
5. Do a soft reset (turn off then back on).
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Give this a try - Here's the instructions.
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Wiki'd....until your alarm goes off again
That would be wonderful, but when I download the SK Tools, it comes in as an invalid zip file. Grrrrrr
Been running kavana wm 6.1 since feb with no phantom alarm problems. I would get the phantom alarms within 1 week of flashing the old 6.0 rom. I change what time I get up almost every day. Plus I change the second alarm maybe 3times a week. It has never acted up so far.... I don't really use the reminders for appointments maybe that's why. Maybe you did not flash the rom before you upgraded. If you synched with your computer and then erased the memory after upgrading to the current rom. I believe that would fix any problems you were having. Ricky's has a nice keyboard selector on first boot so you might want to upgrade.
My phone running WM5 started doing it too. Never used the alarms until a recent trip, and unfortunately I chose the Dog Bark sound. Man it's annoying. (which is the whole point of an alarm, but it shouldn't go off if it's set to disabled)
Not so phantom just late?
Im using 6.1 040408 remade by rickywatt and my alarms seem to wake up late...? I set the alarm and the icon is on the screen the phone is on normal profile with the volume on not silent or anything and then its off to sleep, only to discover the next morning that my alarm was a no show... sometimes as soon as I press a key the alarm starts ringing... other times nothing. I checked out the posts on alarm problems but i have not found this problem.... any ideas?
S-K-Tools Worked to Remove Phantom Alarm
I just bought "SKTools Best maintenance toolkit" to remove a Phantom Alarm from my HTC Touch Pro2 that was going off every morning at 4am...and am happy to report that it worked.
Once the software was downloaded and installed I ran a clean-up of the Notifications Queue to "delete duplicates". Note that the free trial version wasn't enough. As reported below, "Clock.exe" is the correct item name to delete, but in my case, there was no time showing up in the time column for the phantom alarm so I couldn't tell which one it was.
Finally, I've been very impressed with all the other stuff I can easily do with this product to clean the garbage out of my phone. Hopefully this will translate into better performance in the days ahead.
Been playing with my HD7 (TMo USA) for two days now. Main problem's been that it's highly buggy.
I left it overnight to charge, and when I turned it on in the morning, everything was disconnected (no updates from Internet) as the Wifi connection was off. Went to the settings app, and only the first three options (ringtones & sounds, theme, and airplane mode) were even present. The entire rest of the menu panel was not even visible for some reason, so I couldn't enable Wifi.
I then restarted-- it connected to Wifi, slowly loaded one webpage, then when I returned five minutes later, it was in a weird state. Wifi could not be turned on (attempting to turn it on in settings had no effect). Opening IE would load a grayed-out version of the tab selector then crash back to the home screen with any click. Pretty much all apps would load an initial page but then crash whenever any input was submitted (e.g. email address/password for setting up accounts).
Pretty poor so far-- the UI is smooth and hasn't locked up per se (as Windows Mobile always inevitably does), but the inconsistency and random crashes make this feel like alpha software.
Actually it kind of feels like what'd result if you were to put a GPU-accelerated GUI on top of WM 6.x and then forced it to either act in a few seconds or abandon the task. Sometimes things work, sometimes they don't, and the GUI just glosses over as if nothing's wrong.
Anyone else having similar issues?
Hmm...the OS has crashed (causing a reboot) three times today so far-- once when downloading email (in inbox screen), once when loading a particular message, and again when trying to open the Marketplace (froze with one highlighted app, Need for Speed, shown, then 10-15 seconds later, phone restarted).
Wifi's also only intermittently connecting with a strong signal in the area (toggling it on/off doesn't seem to fix it).
There is the possible chance of just having a faulty device, (or simply a faulty MicroSD card which is used for memory. Have you tried a Hard Reset on the device and seeing if the problems resurface? Most people who have used WP7 for the most part so far have not mentioned issues like yours on the vast scale you have.
I've had mine for a couple days now also and it has been perfection as far as operation goes. I did have a bug in IE when I tried to respond to an XDS PM. I tried to delete the accumulated text and it funked up. Couldn't back out to a previous window so had to reboot WP7 to be able to use IE. I was able to tap the windows button and go to the main screen, but I couldn't use IE till after the reboot
had my samsung since launch the 8th
I have not had any problems what so ever!! and i have installed a 32gb class 2 card in connection with the 8gb internal and it runs great no problems to this time never had to reboot or lock ups nothing... most likly you have a bad sd card...
yea i can also report the same, mine is smooth as. what i have been doing of late is leaving my pc on at night, and my phone connected to wifi (charging as well), and it would sync with my pc throughout the night. get up the morning and videos are ready to go for me to take on the train. haven't experienced any difficulties at all yet.
i would report the issue to your carrier and get a replacement handset, or hard reset first to see if it's not just some dodgy build on your phone.
Ive been using my device for 3 days. I've only encountered 1 or two odd problems
1. when i was connected to the uni's wifi and visited weather.com it kinda borked out (i think it had to do with my uni re-directing to a login page to verify identity)
(or it could have been weather.com loading some scripts (didnt see it as a mobile device)
2. i develop for wp7 and sometimes after i deploy an application to my phone, the back button wont work. (sometimes meaning it happened once )
No crashes or anything of that nature though..
Can anyone agree that the shutter speed on the camera is really slow? I am assuming its a windows software issue as the cameras in almost all wp7 devices are the same.
It really sounds like a faulty hardware. 3 crashes in a day? Wow, even my Fuze never did that with XDA builds. From the reviews and experiences from other users here. I'd say you are either alone or one of very few in that experience.
I handled a Focus for few mites yesterday side by side with iPhone 4 and Captivate. Android felt like beta, iphone4 as final RC build and WP7 as RTM in terms of usability. I like and still use my iPhone 2G so nothing against iPhone really.
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Ive been using my device for 3 days. I've only encountered 1 or two odd problems
1. when i was connected to the uni's wifi and visited weather.com it kinda borked out (i think it had to do with my uni re-directing to a login page to verify identity)
(or it could have been weather.com loading some scripts (didnt see it as a mobile device)
2. i develop for wp7 and sometimes after i deploy an application to my phone, the back button wont work. (sometimes meaning it happened once )
No crashes or anything of that nature though..
Can anyone agree that the shutter speed on the camera is really slow? I am assuming its a windows software issue as the cameras in almost all wp7 devices are the same.
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yea, the auto focus and shutter do take their time. it should be really snappy. it should auto focus and take phone pretty much instantly... sadly it isn't the case. hopefully it picks up, though i don't seem them doing this till like WP8.
The main thing is, MS will be doing the updating and that means quality updates for each and every handset out there. But the latest news has me a bit concerned, Balmer selling off so much stock in MS. So far he has sold 49 million shares of MS and is said to sell a total of 74 million eventually. I'm wondering if it's related to WP7 and if there is something we all should be concerned about.
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The main thing is, MS will be doing the updating and that means quality updates for each and every handset out there. But the latest news has me a bit concerned, Balmer selling off so much stock in MS. So far he has sold 49 million shares of MS and is said to sell a total of 74 million eventually. I'm wondering if it's related to WP7 and if there is something we all should be concerned about.
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Very interesting indeed. That's a lot of cheese. You got me wondering too.
he has a few hundred million shares if not billions in MS... i believe what he's selling is a mere few percent if that of his shares. Bill Gates sells off that many regularly to support his charities... i wouldn't take much note of it.
Tried hard-resetting, to no effect. It's bad enough that at this point I hope it's an isolated hardware problem, as I wonder what my not so tech-savvy friends/family would do if they bought a WP7 phone and encountered this.
It's been crashing out of apps, freezing at the shutdown "Goodbye" screen, showing UI issues in IE, giving DRM errors in Netflix (and restarting every time Netflix is closed), sometimes not turning the screen off (pressing power key would just lock the phone), etc.
Hopefully T-Mobile can swap this out tomorrow.
(oh and this is attempt 2 at writing this post-- tried it on the HD7 the first time, and after I pressed Submit Reply, the phone dropped Wifi, IE went to an Action Cancelled page, and then the OS crashed)
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Very interesting indeed. That's a lot of cheese. You got me wondering too.
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There is also a change in capital gains tax, he maybe wanted to take advantage or needed some liquid cash. I doubt very much it is anything else!
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Tried hard-resetting, to no effect. It's bad enough that at this point I hope it's an isolated hardware problem, as I wonder what my not so tech-savvy friends/family would do if they bought a WP7 phone and encountered this.
It's been crashing out of apps, freezing at the shutdown "Goodbye" screen, showing UI issues in IE, giving DRM errors in Netflix (and restarting every time Netflix is closed), sometimes not turning the screen off (pressing power key would just lock the phone), etc.
Hopefully T-Mobile can swap this out tomorrow.
(oh and this is attempt 2 at writing this post-- tried it on the HD7 the first time, and after I pressed Submit Reply, the phone dropped Wifi, IE went to an Action Cancelled page, and then the OS crashed)
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That definitely sounds like a rogue habdset, I have the HD& and have had hardly any issues.
I really don't think MS is betting the farm on WP7, sure it's important to their lineup, but it's never going to be the money maker like the iPhone is for Apple.
MS makes it's break and butter off OS's(Server and Desktop), Office Suite and XBOX Live.
Everything else is just a plus.
Just to follow up, went and swapped out the phone, and now it's all fine. Guess HTC/T-Mo's quality control needs some work.
When I described all my issues to the people at the T-Mobile store, their response was "it's a Windows phone-- all Windows phones freeze and do things like that" . Finally was able to get them to swap it out though.
Incidentally they had a bunch of HD7s sitting around-- apparently I'm the only one who's actually bought one from the store (and this is in New York) .
i have been using WP7 since it came out in UK, untill yesterday there has been no siginificant issues, couple to times accelrometer didn't work properly but yesterday
marketplace app wouldn't launch
couldn't buy apps on marketplace, can get free apps
twitter app errored out
scrolling in marketplace app got stuck for few mins
had to reboot it twice, back or windows button wouldn't work.
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I really don't think MS is betting the farm on WP7, sure it's important to their lineup, but it's never going to be the money maker like the iPhone is for Apple.
MS makes it's break and butter off OS's(Server and Desktop), Office Suite and XBOX Live.
Everything else is just a plus.
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I kind of disagree...from what I've read they are betting on this as they know the future is mobile to a large extent. I believe they will force WP7 to be a success, similar to what they did with Xbox...
lip said:
I kind of disagree...from what I've read they are betting on this as they know the future is mobile to a large extent. I believe they will force WP7 to be a success, similar to what they did with Xbox...
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And I'm hoping you are 200% correct. Because it means our mobile platform of choice will only get better; will only improve. That means MS will listen to the market (general public, not customizers) and give it what it wants.
Speaking of wants, what the forecast for Angry Birds on WP7?
So last night I was told 100 times to set my clocks forward for daylight savings.. I have clocks that auto sync so I didn't worry about it. At 10:00 pm last night i set my alarm for work to be 8:10 am. I go to sleep, i hear my alarm go off and when i look at the clock it says 9:10 am. **** now i am late... I double check when i set the alarm and sure enough it says 8:10 am.
This is a major bug for people who rely on their phones to keep track of time. It's evident to me that when I set the alarm, it calculates the total time between now and the time I tell it to go off and starts counting down. This is a flawed design, it should check if time has been shifted due to daylight savings by syncing with what time it is and checking if it's still on schedule. Now im pissed.
I don't think that's how it works.
I have my two work alarms (one backup) set to be on all the time. If it did count from when it was set, when would mine count from? I've had it set since Jan 29.
Also, you just assumed all would go perfectly during the first dst transition on a new smartphone platform? Why didn't you set two alarms, one an hour before just in case? I'm sure risking waking up too early would've been better.
I understand being angry, but it should be directed at yourself.
i would lean towards the above poster as well. Apple had daylight saving issues in iOS 4... where they didn't in iOS 3, so yea, given all the smartphone issues in general, i wouldn't rely on daylight savings on smartphones. i personally never use the alarm clock on my phone, i actually have an alarm clock, but to each their own.
lol, bug = user error now ? ok
sure it is a bug and it does need fixing, but in saying that you can't ultimately blame the phone. i think someone tried to sue apple in the united states for this exact same issue and having the same result as the user above (i think they got fired, though it would have probably been a history of being late, but still, they tried none the less) and that failed miserably...
EDIT: and here we go, even at present, iOS 4.3 still doesn't get it right either, so it's not just Windows Phone affected by the bug... http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-new...clock-bungles-time-change-20110314-1btim.html
With all the problems Apple had with the daylight saving, one would think that Microsoft is doing everything possible to avoid such problems.
There is absolutely not the user to blame.
I do not buy a smartphone with thousands of features to have it failing at being a mere alarm clock. It's not that the daylight saving is someting new so all the MS-staff would be caught napping
How ignorant am I, i thought daylight saving time was just a UK thing. Personally i think we all look at this issue the wrong way, if i had my way we would just leave the clicks alone. Daylight saving does nothing but mess people up.
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Daylight saving does nothing but mess people up.
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That's right, neither we need it nor does it make any sense nowadays.
But as long as it's there and we have to consider it I still want my phone to wake me up at the right time
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sure it is a bug and it does need fixing, but in saying that you can't ultimately blame the phone. i think someone tried to sue apple in the united states for this exact same issue and having the same result as the user above (i think they got fired, though it would have probably been a history of being late, but still, they tried none the less) and that failed miserably...
EDIT: and here we go, even at present, iOS 4.3 still doesn't get it right either, so it's not just Windows Phone affected by the bug... http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-new...clock-bungles-time-change-20110314-1btim.html
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nothingto do with ios. absolutely nothing. nor android, nor symbian, nor any other os.
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I don't think that's how it works.
I have my two work alarms (one backup) set to be on all the time. If it did count from when it was set, when would mine count from? I've had it set since Jan 29.
Also, you just assumed all would go perfectly during the first dst transition on a new smartphone platform? Why didn't you set two alarms, one an hour before just in case? I'm sure risking waking up too early would've been better.
I understand being angry, but it should be directed at yourself.
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This also happened to me. Yes it is a new platform. But lets not forget that Microsoft is not the first producer of smart-phone software. There were many before it that have made this mistake and Microsoft should have taken all of that into account and learned from their competitors mistakes. IMHO this makes them worst than their competitors in this area of the platform.
Now here is how this is Microsoft's fault:
When you set an alarm in WP7, it asks you what time you would like to be awoken. IDK about you, but when I set a time on an alarm, I assume it is going to go off at that exact time. Upon seeing this method of setting the alarm, wouldn't you assume that if you set the alarm for 8:00AM that it would wake you up at 8:00AM?
Instead, the method Microsoft uses here should have been represented with "wake me up in X hours and X minutes." So they represented the alarms layout with the above method and coded it with this method. That's like having a Murcielago with a Geo Metro engine in it. Completely deceiving. Also, not everyone sets two alarms like you do. Some of us believe that if we pay $500 for a device that can route you from L.A. to New York, then it should have no problem waking you up. Do you have a backup vehicle also? What about a backup job? T.V?
Like the OP, I would have assumed that all would go well also.
After all, when you first powered up your device, didn't you assume that all would go well upon boot? Surely you didn't think that you would enter a boot loop, right?
Same concept with the alarm.
My wifes old 30GB brown Zune was bricked for a day by a DST error, so it could be worse.
My HTC Touch Pro 2 updated just fine as did all of my computers.
Yet another benefit of Sprint launching the HTC Arrive on 3/20 - hopefully any DST issues will be resolved by the time it rolls around again this fall.
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Instead, the method Microsoft uses here should have been represented with "wake me up in X hours and X minutes." So they represented the alarms layout with the above method and coded it with this method.
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(citation needed)
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not everyone sets two alarms like you do.
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Well then I guess not everyone is actually concerned with getting up on time.
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Do you have a backup vehicle also? What about a backup job? T.V?
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Yeah, cause those are the same as a cell phone
The guy set his alarm for 8:00am. When the phone transitioned the time change, it moved everything ahead an hour, I guess including the alarm. Like has been posted several, several times in this thread; DST issues are nothing new, and are on every platform. And I'll say it again; if he and you reallly wanted to get up on time, you would've made damn sure it happened. Blindly trusting a piece of technology without a backup is not very bright.
/how can anyone not have a backup alarm???
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/how can anyone not have a backup alarm???
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Its called a wife...
Avandor said:
Its called a wife...
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Or; a wife and two dogs
Nothing like two panting huskies staring in your face to wake you up lol
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/how can anyone not have a backup alarm???
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And when the backup-alarm software is programmed by useless Microsoft-Coders and fails too?
An alarm is there to wake me up on time -no matter if it's a clock, a wife or a phone. When this alarm function doesn't work then they shouldn't have implemented it in first place. But the alarm function is there so I expect it to work.
Never had a backup-alarm for my phone since 1998 and I've never been let down until now.
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And when the backup-alarm software is programmed by useless Microsoft-Coders and fails too?
An alarm is there to wake me up on time -no matter if it's a clock, a wife or a phone. When this alarm function doesn't work then they shouldn't have implemented it in first place. But the alarm function is there so I expect it to work.
Never had a backup-alarm for my phone since 1998 and I've never been let down until now.
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Well I've yet to see it proven that that's how MS coded the alarms. I'm not saying it's not true, I'm just seeing a lot of people claiming, without anyone proving.
I didn't change my alarm, and it woke me up this morning with no problem at all.
Again, if you're that careless that you trust just one alarm on a new device to wake you up, then it's not really that important to you to get up. Either you hate your job or had a bad court date to attend to or whatever, either way, you didn't want to get up that badly.
Common problem on all mobile OSs.
Solution ; don't depend on it.
Still, something as trivial as an alarm should work.
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Well then I guess not everyone is actually concerned with getting up on time.
Yeah, cause those are the same as a cell phone
The guy set his alarm for 8:00am. When the phone transitioned the time change, it moved everything ahead an hour, I guess including the alarm. Like has been posted several, several times in this thread; DST issues are nothing new, and are on every platform. And I'll say it again; if he and you reallly wanted to get up on time, you would've made damn sure it happened. Blindly trusting a piece of technology without a backup is not very bright.
/how can anyone not have a backup alarm???
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I don't get it either. Been using the same battery operated alarm clock with temp gauge (needed it for the field in the army), since about 2000. Gets new batteries about once a year. I don't trust anything with software to work 100% of the time.
So here's a typical day with WP7.
Wake up, unplug phone from PC. I had left it to sync overnight, because for some reason Zune wasn't syncing a particular photos subfolder (1), so I removed the whole lot and resynced over 6,000 photos while I slept. Found the phone was only half-charged (2). Plugged it into the mains while I got ready for work.
Saw there was an update for Board Express Pro, downloaded it but it failed, as I'm using the trial (3).
As I left for work, I went to hit PLAY on my music, expecting to carry on listening to the music I had last night, but in the dropdown music controls, it displayed just a blank. So I had to reselect the album (4).
On the train, sat at the station waiting to leave, I went to access Game Chest: Logic Games to make my next chess move in the ongoing game against my wife. The phone spent ages starting up the game, then informed me, despite having a 3G connection, that it couldn't connect to the game (5). Tried two or three more times (6). No dice. Decided to try Alphajax, but on starting that up, it complained it couldn't obtain push notifications (7). It asked me to restart my phone, which I did (8). The restart got stuck at the "Windows Phone" splash screen for about two minutes - it normally takes a couple of seconds, so that was a worry (9). Eventually I got my home screen, so I went back into Alphajax and got the same message again (10). So no push updates any more for that game. Went back to my home screen and noticed that I'm also not getting tile updates for either Flixster (11) or Flickr (12). Decided to play a bit of Sudoku (Game Chest: Logic Games). I always use a bluetooth headset, and partway through the game something happened and the sounds stopped coming through (13). I had to go into SETTINGS and disconnect my headset, then reconnect to get it working again (14).
I went into Marketplace to look for an app to keep my ten-pin bowling scores in. I found a couple, but they both keep the scores on the phone with no way to sync to my PC or to the cloud, hence they're useless because if my phone breaks, gets stolen or hard resets itself, I stand to lose the entire bowling score history that I'd have inputted to the app (15). So I knocked up a spreadsheet and emailed it to my phone (no easy way to get it onto the phone (16)). When I opened the sheet on the phone, I found just about all the formatting had vanished and several of the centered headings were invisible (17). So I made up my mind to keep my scores in a notebook while bowling and enter them into a spreadsheet on my PC when I get home. So much for smartphones (18).
Now I'm at work, writing this, and have experienced 18 annoyances with my phone in the space of just four hours.
I am seriously starting to get sick of it.
I think I'm on the cusp of going to try out Android! Save me!
The fact is.. we are early adopters. Yes.
And we all know that we would have a problematic phone in our hands when we bought WP7. Then why did I buy this?
Because I was faithful that Microsoft was not going to blow it up. I thought MS was going to update, fix bugs, and try their best, since they have the nicest phone right now.
It's not the bugs that annoy me. It is the fact that the January update turns out to be an April update (yeah, we are 22 March and nothing until now).
And it doens't fix a quarter the problems that we can found in the list of bugs thread.
I share your pain and frustration.
Yesterday I caught myself looking at Nexus S. I'm worried ;/
Still.. since I've balls, I'll stand and wait some more for MS do something useful in this life (oh, yeah, they do sometimes.. Xbox, Win7..)
Don't abandon us!
I don't believe the phone charges while it is in the process of syncing over USB, only when it is in standby, it has been discussed a few times. If you just synced, obviously it accessed your music, so how can you expect it to have not prevented you from accessing it, it does that as a precautionary measure. The trial issue has been discussed a variety of times as well, It's been fixed in NoDo. The games and push notifications could be device specific, as you're the 3rd person I've seen mention this. I use my SkyDrive to move files, or email, I don't see how that isn't "easy." As far as the formatting, good luck finding perfect formatting on Android...
You see, there's no one thing with WP7 that in itself is enough to make me abandon it. It's just the daily grind of all those annoyances that continually grate on me. I'm always sat next to someone playing with their iPhone or Android or Blackberry and some of the time as I'm whizzing through WP7s tiles or playing with some jazzy app I can see them glance over at my phone....and then I'll almost inevitably come to an app that won't open and I'll have to reboot my phone to get it working and I can imagine them chuckling to themselves as I eat humble pie.
It. is. annoying. The potential is there but there are so many let-downs.
There is absolutely no need for this thread to turn into a flamewar.........
If you can offer a potential solution or any relevant information to the points raised by the OP then please dont be shy in putting them forward...
Anything else, dont bother.
That is all.
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There is absolutely no need for this thread to turn into a flamewar.........
If you can offer a potential solution or any relevant information to the points raised by the OP then please dont be shy in putting them forward...
Anything else, dont bother.
That is all.
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Really don't see why my post had to be edited when it wasn't a 'flame' - maybe his response attacking my thank count was, but mine was asking a question of utilizing available resources. Those that have been posted a variety of times.
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Really don't see why my post had to be edited when it wasn't a 'flame' - maybe his response attacking my thank count was, but mine was asking a question of utilizing available resources. Those that have been posted a variety of times.
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Dude I was just teasing ya! Anyway I think you've missed the point of the thread. I'm not looking for individual fixes / excuses / workarounds etc etc to each of the individual points. My point is, that was a TYPICAL day spent with WP7, and that all these little things contribute to an overall feeling of malaise with the OS. I've tried to put across that I am a stalwart of WP7 - I have had many many WM5 / 6 / 6.1 / 6.5 phones over the years and went straight to WP7 and yes there is much to like, which is why I'm still clinging to it.
I really just want to guage the mood among other WP7 users - are they experiencing similar malaise to me or not? Is it just me?
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Really don't see why my post had to be edited when it wasn't a 'flame' - maybe his response attacking my thank count was, but mine was asking a question of utilizing available resources. Those that have been posted a variety of times.
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That statement wasnt specifically directed at you. You'll notice that posts from multiple users have been deleted in an attempt to bring this thread back on topic.
Let me make this very clear to all concerened.
I expect the next post to be directly related to the isues raised by the OP.
Not discussing the drama this thread has already caused in its short lifespan.
NO MORE OFF TOPIC CHATTER PLEASE!
typical ?
is this a typical day of your phone usage ? I've seen the bug thread, but there aren't a whole lot of folks posting similar accounts of annoyances... there are threads, but not so many all at once, such a short span of time.
I wonder how long since your last reset, and if you reboot it daily, weekly, or just when it becomes unusable ?
id imagine it this is a typical experience that m$ is working pretty hard on it... with the update getting pushed back regularly.
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is this a typical day of your phone usage ?
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Sadly, yeah
I've seen the bug thread, but there aren't a whole lot of folks posting similar accounts of annoyances... there are threads, but not so many all at once, such a short span of time.
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It wasn't until I started writing them down that I realized just how many there were.
I wonder how long since your last reset, and if you reboot it daily, weekly, or just when it becomes unusable ?
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I did a hard reset a couple of weeks back to cure the push notification issue, but it has returned. I reboot my phone whenever an app asks me to or an app stops working or anything else goes wrong that a reboot might cure. On average, probably about once or twice per day.
id imagine it this is a typical experience that m$ is working pretty hard on it... with the update getting pushed back regularly.
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The delays in getting the bug fixes are all part of the overall feeling of "meh" I'm getting about WP7.
Obviously you're still very much in love with WP7, which is fine - I wish I was, too, but despite me evangelizing it to all my mates, deep down I don't feel anything like as good about it as I did in October last year.
Actually, I just remembered another thing that went wrong this morning - when I came out of the (constantly crashing) Comica app, the screen graphics went all ape**** and I had to reboot. Again.
To be honest, with this many issues I would be inclined to think that it's a device specific problem.
Do you have any kind of warranty you could claim on?
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I understand a lot of the little frustrations, especially with the update delays, but one thing that did stand out for me is the comment about stability... having to restart your phone to get basic functionality (app launching) going again. I very seldom (less than once a month) have needed to reboot my Focus to get some service or app going again. Some apps do have stability issues for me, but a reboot of the phone doesn't appear to be needed... I can simply relaunch the app in question after it returns to the start menu (sometimes I've had an issue where the app needs a couple of launches to sort itself out).
Are you using a WP7 device with a replaced microSD card, or a Samsung Focus with an added microSD card? The stability issues sound like something that I'd expect to see with a non-compliant microSD card, or some hardware issue with the device. I'm running a Samsung Focus with an added 16 GB card (Ridata, class 6 for the curious), and 20+ GB of space has been used on the phone since Dec., and my device sounds like it is far more stable than yours at the moment.
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To be honest, with this many issues I would be inclined to think that it's a device specific problem.
Do you have any kind of warranty you could claim on?
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Well yeah there's a warranty but most of the issues are either with apps or are known software issues.
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I understand a lot of the little frustrations, especially with the update delays, but one thing that did stand out for me is the comment about stability... having to restart your phone to get basic functionality (app launching) going again. I very seldom (less than once a month) have needed to reboot my Focus to get some service or app going again. Some apps do have stability issues for me, but a reboot of the phone doesn't appear to be needed... I can simply relaunch the app in question after it returns to the start menu (sometimes I've had an issue where the app needs a couple of launches to sort itself out).
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I usually try restarting the app at least three times before I reboot. Rebooting always fixes it.
Are you using a WP7 device with a replaced microSD card, or a Samsung Focus with an added microSD card? The stability issues sound like something that I'd expect to see with a non-compliant microSD card, or some hardware issue with the device. I'm running a Samsung Focus with an added 16 GB card (Ridata, class 6 for the curious), and 20+ GB of space has been used on the phone since Dec., and my device sounds like it is far more stable than yours at the moment.
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No it's an HD7 with the stock O2 ROM and stock 16GB card as supplied. I have done nothing to it.
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No it's an HD7 with the stock O2 ROM and stock 16GB card as supplied. I have done nothing to it.
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TBH, I think this is the main problem. HTC isn't exactly known for providing great SD cards with their devices.
I encountered similar issues on my HD7 but haven't seen them on either of the Omnia7's or Optimus7 currently available to me.
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TBH, I think this is the main problem. HTC isn't exactly known for providing great SD cards with their devices.
I encountered similar issues on my HD7 but haven't seen them on either of the Omnia7's or Optimus7 currently available to me.
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But if it was a problem with the storage card, why would rebooting fix it?
If any data on the card was corrupted, it would still be corrupted after the reboot. If it was a transient read error, then retrying would usually work, but it never does.
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But if it was a problem with the storage card, why would rebooting fix it?
If any data on the card was corrupted, it would still be corrupted after the reboot. If it was a transient read error, then retrying would usually work, but it never does.
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I don't know for sure, but I reckon the OS gets bogged down over time. Either due to temporary files or running processes. I didn't investigate much myself as I returned the handset after about a week, but others with certain HTC devices (as well as some DVP owners) have said the problems go away by changing the SD card.
It may also be that it's fixed in NoDo as they have reworked the way memory is accessed. I did however see similar issues in the 7008 build on my Omnia7 - which made me revert to the standard 7004.
Hehe, WP7 is piling it on today. Just tried to download an app.
"Can't get this information at the moment. Check again in a little while."
*Sigh*
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But if it was a problem with the storage card, why would rebooting fix it?
If any data on the card was corrupted, it would still be corrupted after the reboot. If it was a transient read error, then retrying would usually work, but it never does.
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I think we dell venue pro owners are the experts on sd cards and WP7 The known problem with the DVP crashing when using wifi or returning from standby with a black screen is fixed for a lot of people who swapped their sd cards, though not all. For reasons we cant pinpoint WP7 is spectacularly picky about which cards it works with. I myself have tried 2 new cards and have not managed to solve the crashing problem on my DVP.
Quite possibly you are experiencing the same intolerance to certain sd cards on your HD7 as has affected the DVP and possibly a device swap could fix it. I certainly have not experienced the level of individual application failures you have, and that is with a known crash happy device.
I think I will wait for Nodo and see what happens after. There are some bugfixes in Nodo so you never know. Nodo must surely be coming in the next few days.....right?
For the past...3 days...my new Google Pixel 6 Pro has decided that 7 am is a good wake up time for me (the cats don't mind, they get fed earlier). It's not an alarm though, there's nothing to disable on the screen, and talking to the assistant to "disable alarm" does nothing. It starts at 7 sharp and crescendos until it ends at 7:02 exactly.
I looked through threads, and couldn't find anything similar, so am wondering if anyone else has experienced anything like this?
I know I had something similar, and there have definitely been similar reports previously in this section, although it's not Pixel 6-specific, and might not even be Pixel-specific at all. Check the "Bedtime" tab at the bottom right of the Clock app. Although in that case, it did show up as a separate alarm as well when I had it enabled.
Thanks for the thougth - that wasn't even enabled yet on my phone. Go figure, yesterday (my birthday as it were), I woke up on my own at 3 am and it never went off. This morning though? Back to the shenanagins. At this point I'm about ready to throw my hands in the air and just SET my normal alarm to 7!
As much of a pain it can be, I think if I were in your shoes for much longer, I would consider a factory reset. Either that or we could trade phones - my wake up time is 7 AM most mornings. j/k
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For the past...3 days...my new Google Pixel 6 Pro has decided that 7 am is a good wake up time for me (the cats don't mind, they get fed earlier). It's not an alarm though, there's nothing to disable on the screen, and talking to the assistant to "disable alarm" does nothing. It starts at 7 sharp and crescendos until it ends at 7:02 exactly.
I looked through threads, and couldn't find anything similar, so am wondering if anyone else has experienced anything like this?
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Do you use Tasker? If so, I think the "Use Reliable Alarms" setting needs to be disabled, although this may relate to another clock/alarm issue and not the one you're having. Can try it anyway.
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Do you use Tasker? If so, I think the "Use Reliable Alarms" setting needs to be disabled, although this may relate to another clock/alarm issue and not the one you're having. Can try it anyway.
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Sadly, not any more. I had previously removed Join (by I think the same author) because it meant going through adb and even then it didn't always work properly.
So, set my "normal" alarm to 7 am tomorrow. We'll see if that overrides the annoying alarm with my normal alarm. If so, I guess I just...deal with getting up at 7 am? Yay? My writing partner will appreciate that if it means I get more writing done...
When I flashed a13 beta 4.1 , I rebooted the device after root and this clicking sound came out of my p6pro, with no way to stop it. It got louder as it went too, scared me a bit
It was the alarm that must've been backed up to my Gmail or something. All I could do was flash the firmware again.
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So, set my "normal" alarm to 7 am tomorrow. We'll see if that overrides the annoying alarm with my normal alarm. If so, I guess I just...deal with getting up at 7 am? Yay? My writing partner will appreciate that if it means I get more writing done...
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Does the one that you don't intentionally have use a different alarm sound, or anything else different about it (what the icon and/or alarm screen when it's going off)?
Yeah, finish Game of Thrones, will ya?
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Does the one that you don't intentionally have use a different alarm sound, or anything else different about it (what the icon and/or alarm screen when it's going off)?
Yeah, finish Game of Thrones, will ya?
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Yeah, it's got a beep that steadily increases in volume and frequency. BOTH went off at 7 am this morning, with me disabling MY alarm in relatively short order (have to solve a math problem) but the rogue one going until 7:02.
Haha, I wish I was that successful. I'd be happy to just break even on a book at this point!
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Yeah, it's got a beep that steadily increases in volume and frequency. BOTH went off at 7 am this morning, with me disabling MY alarm in relatively short order (have to solve a math problem) but the rogue one going until 7:02.
Haha, I wish I was that successful. I'd be happy to just break even on a book at this point!
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When you got your phone did you install your apps from a backup, maybe from another phone? Also, do you have an old calendar event that may be triggering this?
Yes, I installed from my old phone, a Motorola One 5G Ace. It didn't really do it as a backup, which I thought was odd, but paired the two phones somehow.
I have no events on my calendar at 7 am. Any of my calendars, actually. I just went through them all and checked. I don't think I have any truly oddball apps - though I did have to switch to one new app with the transition to this phone. Pure Calendar Widget was no longer available, so I went to the paid version of Business Calendar. That doesn't appear to have any alarms associated with it.
I'm really at a loss. And as much as it would annoy me, I'm debating the factory reset. But if I restore from a backup, wouldn't I just be restoring the same problem back into place?
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Yes, I installed from my old phone, a Motorola One 5G Ace. It didn't really do it as a backup, which I thought was odd, but paired the two phones somehow.
I have no events on my calendar at 7 am. Any of my calendars, actually. I just went through them all and checked. I don't think I have any truly oddball apps - though I did have to switch to one new app with the transition to this phone. Pure Calendar Widget was no longer available, so I went to the paid version of Business Calendar. That doesn't appear to have any alarms associated with it.
I'm really at a loss. And as much as it would annoy me, I'm debating the factory reset. But if I restore from a backup, wouldn't I just be restoring the same problem back into place?
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If you installed/transferred from an old phone, I'm wondering if you have an app or setting or something that got transferred over that is causing this. Maybe a system app that doesn't show up in the user app list or something.
Yeah, I wouldn't restore from an old phone or backup. Seen people have problems when doing this. A clean flash, imo, is always best when setting up a new phone, including clean installing all your apps. At least it will eliminate any problems that may have been caused by restoring old app data, etc...
See, part of my issue is I don't want to lose voicemails etc. My Mom died 2 months ago, so I want to make sure I keep those messages as long as I can...
I guess I go back to removing apps that I don't use consistently until I find the one causing issues.
I'll find out in several hours for sure, but I think I have been completely missing the mark blaming my phone (and it goes to show my hearing perception is fading) ... I got a new atomic alarm clock at the end of last month. After the beeping alarm went off this morning and my head happened to be turned in a different direction, I went over to that alarm clock and the alarm was turned on. Sigh. I've turned it off, but I bet you that solves my issues.
Boy do I feel like a moron now...
Not much help but when it goes off go to settings and look on notifications and should show rouge app that way maybe also you could try do not disturb mode but alarms could over ride it
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I'll find out in several hours for sure, but I think I have been completely missing the mark blaming my phone (and it goes to show my hearing perception is fading) ... I got a new atomic alarm clock at the end of last month. After the beeping alarm went off this morning and my head happened to be turned in a different direction, I went over to that alarm clock and the alarm was turned on. Sigh. I've turned it off, but I bet you that solves my issues.
Boy do I feel like a moron now...
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Wow, glad you found the cause. That's all that matters.
A couple of years ago, for weeks I kept getting woken up by a noise which I was assuming was related to our cat (even though it was a new and regular noise). I finally found it was our spare refrigerator's icemaker accidentally got turned on, and I don't have that fridge hooked up to the water, so it kept trying to make ice out of air, and that fridge is on exactly the opposite side of the wall I sleep on. Not the same thing as your situation, but man, now the one or two times after that I heard that noise, I went straight to the spare fridge, and it was always that the icemaker accidentally got turned on, but it doesn't happen anymore, as we both now know to double-check that "arm" that turns it on after we're done in that fridge's freezer.
That alarm didn't go off this morning (shocker, right?) ... but I must have had a night terror that woke me up earlier, because I SWEAR I experienced my "normal alarm" (having to solve a math problem to turn off the alarm) and when I looked at the clock it was 6:43. I had adjusted my normal alarm back to 8:15. Needless to say I was up far before that point!
Great, so this stuff is driving me so nuts it's freaking me out in my sleep!