So last night I was told 100 times to set my clocks forward for daylight savings.. I have clocks that auto sync so I didn't worry about it. At 10:00 pm last night i set my alarm for work to be 8:10 am. I go to sleep, i hear my alarm go off and when i look at the clock it says 9:10 am. **** now i am late... I double check when i set the alarm and sure enough it says 8:10 am.
This is a major bug for people who rely on their phones to keep track of time. It's evident to me that when I set the alarm, it calculates the total time between now and the time I tell it to go off and starts counting down. This is a flawed design, it should check if time has been shifted due to daylight savings by syncing with what time it is and checking if it's still on schedule. Now im pissed.
I don't think that's how it works.
I have my two work alarms (one backup) set to be on all the time. If it did count from when it was set, when would mine count from? I've had it set since Jan 29.
Also, you just assumed all would go perfectly during the first dst transition on a new smartphone platform? Why didn't you set two alarms, one an hour before just in case? I'm sure risking waking up too early would've been better.
I understand being angry, but it should be directed at yourself.
i would lean towards the above poster as well. Apple had daylight saving issues in iOS 4... where they didn't in iOS 3, so yea, given all the smartphone issues in general, i wouldn't rely on daylight savings on smartphones. i personally never use the alarm clock on my phone, i actually have an alarm clock, but to each their own.
lol, bug = user error now ? ok
sure it is a bug and it does need fixing, but in saying that you can't ultimately blame the phone. i think someone tried to sue apple in the united states for this exact same issue and having the same result as the user above (i think they got fired, though it would have probably been a history of being late, but still, they tried none the less) and that failed miserably...
EDIT: and here we go, even at present, iOS 4.3 still doesn't get it right either, so it's not just Windows Phone affected by the bug... http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-new...clock-bungles-time-change-20110314-1btim.html
With all the problems Apple had with the daylight saving, one would think that Microsoft is doing everything possible to avoid such problems.
There is absolutely not the user to blame.
I do not buy a smartphone with thousands of features to have it failing at being a mere alarm clock. It's not that the daylight saving is someting new so all the MS-staff would be caught napping
How ignorant am I, i thought daylight saving time was just a UK thing. Personally i think we all look at this issue the wrong way, if i had my way we would just leave the clicks alone. Daylight saving does nothing but mess people up.
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Daylight saving does nothing but mess people up.
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That's right, neither we need it nor does it make any sense nowadays.
But as long as it's there and we have to consider it I still want my phone to wake me up at the right time
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sure it is a bug and it does need fixing, but in saying that you can't ultimately blame the phone. i think someone tried to sue apple in the united states for this exact same issue and having the same result as the user above (i think they got fired, though it would have probably been a history of being late, but still, they tried none the less) and that failed miserably...
EDIT: and here we go, even at present, iOS 4.3 still doesn't get it right either, so it's not just Windows Phone affected by the bug... http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-new...clock-bungles-time-change-20110314-1btim.html
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nothingto do with ios. absolutely nothing. nor android, nor symbian, nor any other os.
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I don't think that's how it works.
I have my two work alarms (one backup) set to be on all the time. If it did count from when it was set, when would mine count from? I've had it set since Jan 29.
Also, you just assumed all would go perfectly during the first dst transition on a new smartphone platform? Why didn't you set two alarms, one an hour before just in case? I'm sure risking waking up too early would've been better.
I understand being angry, but it should be directed at yourself.
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This also happened to me. Yes it is a new platform. But lets not forget that Microsoft is not the first producer of smart-phone software. There were many before it that have made this mistake and Microsoft should have taken all of that into account and learned from their competitors mistakes. IMHO this makes them worst than their competitors in this area of the platform.
Now here is how this is Microsoft's fault:
When you set an alarm in WP7, it asks you what time you would like to be awoken. IDK about you, but when I set a time on an alarm, I assume it is going to go off at that exact time. Upon seeing this method of setting the alarm, wouldn't you assume that if you set the alarm for 8:00AM that it would wake you up at 8:00AM?
Instead, the method Microsoft uses here should have been represented with "wake me up in X hours and X minutes." So they represented the alarms layout with the above method and coded it with this method. That's like having a Murcielago with a Geo Metro engine in it. Completely deceiving. Also, not everyone sets two alarms like you do. Some of us believe that if we pay $500 for a device that can route you from L.A. to New York, then it should have no problem waking you up. Do you have a backup vehicle also? What about a backup job? T.V?
Like the OP, I would have assumed that all would go well also.
After all, when you first powered up your device, didn't you assume that all would go well upon boot? Surely you didn't think that you would enter a boot loop, right?
Same concept with the alarm.
My wifes old 30GB brown Zune was bricked for a day by a DST error, so it could be worse.
My HTC Touch Pro 2 updated just fine as did all of my computers.
Yet another benefit of Sprint launching the HTC Arrive on 3/20 - hopefully any DST issues will be resolved by the time it rolls around again this fall.
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Instead, the method Microsoft uses here should have been represented with "wake me up in X hours and X minutes." So they represented the alarms layout with the above method and coded it with this method.
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not everyone sets two alarms like you do.
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Well then I guess not everyone is actually concerned with getting up on time.
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Do you have a backup vehicle also? What about a backup job? T.V?
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Yeah, cause those are the same as a cell phone
The guy set his alarm for 8:00am. When the phone transitioned the time change, it moved everything ahead an hour, I guess including the alarm. Like has been posted several, several times in this thread; DST issues are nothing new, and are on every platform. And I'll say it again; if he and you reallly wanted to get up on time, you would've made damn sure it happened. Blindly trusting a piece of technology without a backup is not very bright.
/how can anyone not have a backup alarm???
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Its called a wife...
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Its called a wife...
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Or; a wife and two dogs
Nothing like two panting huskies staring in your face to wake you up lol
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And when the backup-alarm software is programmed by useless Microsoft-Coders and fails too?
An alarm is there to wake me up on time -no matter if it's a clock, a wife or a phone. When this alarm function doesn't work then they shouldn't have implemented it in first place. But the alarm function is there so I expect it to work.
Never had a backup-alarm for my phone since 1998 and I've never been let down until now.
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And when the backup-alarm software is programmed by useless Microsoft-Coders and fails too?
An alarm is there to wake me up on time -no matter if it's a clock, a wife or a phone. When this alarm function doesn't work then they shouldn't have implemented it in first place. But the alarm function is there so I expect it to work.
Never had a backup-alarm for my phone since 1998 and I've never been let down until now.
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Well I've yet to see it proven that that's how MS coded the alarms. I'm not saying it's not true, I'm just seeing a lot of people claiming, without anyone proving.
I didn't change my alarm, and it woke me up this morning with no problem at all.
Again, if you're that careless that you trust just one alarm on a new device to wake you up, then it's not really that important to you to get up. Either you hate your job or had a bad court date to attend to or whatever, either way, you didn't want to get up that badly.
Common problem on all mobile OSs.
Solution ; don't depend on it.
Still, something as trivial as an alarm should work.
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Well then I guess not everyone is actually concerned with getting up on time.
Yeah, cause those are the same as a cell phone
The guy set his alarm for 8:00am. When the phone transitioned the time change, it moved everything ahead an hour, I guess including the alarm. Like has been posted several, several times in this thread; DST issues are nothing new, and are on every platform. And I'll say it again; if he and you reallly wanted to get up on time, you would've made damn sure it happened. Blindly trusting a piece of technology without a backup is not very bright.
/how can anyone not have a backup alarm???
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I don't get it either. Been using the same battery operated alarm clock with temp gauge (needed it for the field in the army), since about 2000. Gets new batteries about once a year. I don't trust anything with software to work 100% of the time.
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So here's a typical day with WP7.
Wake up, unplug phone from PC. I had left it to sync overnight, because for some reason Zune wasn't syncing a particular photos subfolder (1), so I removed the whole lot and resynced over 6,000 photos while I slept. Found the phone was only half-charged (2). Plugged it into the mains while I got ready for work.
Saw there was an update for Board Express Pro, downloaded it but it failed, as I'm using the trial (3).
As I left for work, I went to hit PLAY on my music, expecting to carry on listening to the music I had last night, but in the dropdown music controls, it displayed just a blank. So I had to reselect the album (4).
On the train, sat at the station waiting to leave, I went to access Game Chest: Logic Games to make my next chess move in the ongoing game against my wife. The phone spent ages starting up the game, then informed me, despite having a 3G connection, that it couldn't connect to the game (5). Tried two or three more times (6). No dice. Decided to try Alphajax, but on starting that up, it complained it couldn't obtain push notifications (7). It asked me to restart my phone, which I did (8). The restart got stuck at the "Windows Phone" splash screen for about two minutes - it normally takes a couple of seconds, so that was a worry (9). Eventually I got my home screen, so I went back into Alphajax and got the same message again (10). So no push updates any more for that game. Went back to my home screen and noticed that I'm also not getting tile updates for either Flixster (11) or Flickr (12). Decided to play a bit of Sudoku (Game Chest: Logic Games). I always use a bluetooth headset, and partway through the game something happened and the sounds stopped coming through (13). I had to go into SETTINGS and disconnect my headset, then reconnect to get it working again (14).
I went into Marketplace to look for an app to keep my ten-pin bowling scores in. I found a couple, but they both keep the scores on the phone with no way to sync to my PC or to the cloud, hence they're useless because if my phone breaks, gets stolen or hard resets itself, I stand to lose the entire bowling score history that I'd have inputted to the app (15). So I knocked up a spreadsheet and emailed it to my phone (no easy way to get it onto the phone (16)). When I opened the sheet on the phone, I found just about all the formatting had vanished and several of the centered headings were invisible (17). So I made up my mind to keep my scores in a notebook while bowling and enter them into a spreadsheet on my PC when I get home. So much for smartphones (18).
Now I'm at work, writing this, and have experienced 18 annoyances with my phone in the space of just four hours.
I am seriously starting to get sick of it.
I think I'm on the cusp of going to try out Android! Save me!
The fact is.. we are early adopters. Yes.
And we all know that we would have a problematic phone in our hands when we bought WP7. Then why did I buy this?
Because I was faithful that Microsoft was not going to blow it up. I thought MS was going to update, fix bugs, and try their best, since they have the nicest phone right now.
It's not the bugs that annoy me. It is the fact that the January update turns out to be an April update (yeah, we are 22 March and nothing until now).
And it doens't fix a quarter the problems that we can found in the list of bugs thread.
I share your pain and frustration.
Yesterday I caught myself looking at Nexus S. I'm worried ;/
Still.. since I've balls, I'll stand and wait some more for MS do something useful in this life (oh, yeah, they do sometimes.. Xbox, Win7..)
Don't abandon us!
I don't believe the phone charges while it is in the process of syncing over USB, only when it is in standby, it has been discussed a few times. If you just synced, obviously it accessed your music, so how can you expect it to have not prevented you from accessing it, it does that as a precautionary measure. The trial issue has been discussed a variety of times as well, It's been fixed in NoDo. The games and push notifications could be device specific, as you're the 3rd person I've seen mention this. I use my SkyDrive to move files, or email, I don't see how that isn't "easy." As far as the formatting, good luck finding perfect formatting on Android...
You see, there's no one thing with WP7 that in itself is enough to make me abandon it. It's just the daily grind of all those annoyances that continually grate on me. I'm always sat next to someone playing with their iPhone or Android or Blackberry and some of the time as I'm whizzing through WP7s tiles or playing with some jazzy app I can see them glance over at my phone....and then I'll almost inevitably come to an app that won't open and I'll have to reboot my phone to get it working and I can imagine them chuckling to themselves as I eat humble pie.
It. is. annoying. The potential is there but there are so many let-downs.
There is absolutely no need for this thread to turn into a flamewar.........
If you can offer a potential solution or any relevant information to the points raised by the OP then please dont be shy in putting them forward...
Anything else, dont bother.
That is all.
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There is absolutely no need for this thread to turn into a flamewar.........
If you can offer a potential solution or any relevant information to the points raised by the OP then please dont be shy in putting them forward...
Anything else, dont bother.
That is all.
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Really don't see why my post had to be edited when it wasn't a 'flame' - maybe his response attacking my thank count was, but mine was asking a question of utilizing available resources. Those that have been posted a variety of times.
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Really don't see why my post had to be edited when it wasn't a 'flame' - maybe his response attacking my thank count was, but mine was asking a question of utilizing available resources. Those that have been posted a variety of times.
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Dude I was just teasing ya! Anyway I think you've missed the point of the thread. I'm not looking for individual fixes / excuses / workarounds etc etc to each of the individual points. My point is, that was a TYPICAL day spent with WP7, and that all these little things contribute to an overall feeling of malaise with the OS. I've tried to put across that I am a stalwart of WP7 - I have had many many WM5 / 6 / 6.1 / 6.5 phones over the years and went straight to WP7 and yes there is much to like, which is why I'm still clinging to it.
I really just want to guage the mood among other WP7 users - are they experiencing similar malaise to me or not? Is it just me?
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Really don't see why my post had to be edited when it wasn't a 'flame' - maybe his response attacking my thank count was, but mine was asking a question of utilizing available resources. Those that have been posted a variety of times.
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That statement wasnt specifically directed at you. You'll notice that posts from multiple users have been deleted in an attempt to bring this thread back on topic.
Let me make this very clear to all concerened.
I expect the next post to be directly related to the isues raised by the OP.
Not discussing the drama this thread has already caused in its short lifespan.
NO MORE OFF TOPIC CHATTER PLEASE!
typical ?
is this a typical day of your phone usage ? I've seen the bug thread, but there aren't a whole lot of folks posting similar accounts of annoyances... there are threads, but not so many all at once, such a short span of time.
I wonder how long since your last reset, and if you reboot it daily, weekly, or just when it becomes unusable ?
id imagine it this is a typical experience that m$ is working pretty hard on it... with the update getting pushed back regularly.
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is this a typical day of your phone usage ?
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Sadly, yeah
I've seen the bug thread, but there aren't a whole lot of folks posting similar accounts of annoyances... there are threads, but not so many all at once, such a short span of time.
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It wasn't until I started writing them down that I realized just how many there were.
I wonder how long since your last reset, and if you reboot it daily, weekly, or just when it becomes unusable ?
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I did a hard reset a couple of weeks back to cure the push notification issue, but it has returned. I reboot my phone whenever an app asks me to or an app stops working or anything else goes wrong that a reboot might cure. On average, probably about once or twice per day.
id imagine it this is a typical experience that m$ is working pretty hard on it... with the update getting pushed back regularly.
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The delays in getting the bug fixes are all part of the overall feeling of "meh" I'm getting about WP7.
Obviously you're still very much in love with WP7, which is fine - I wish I was, too, but despite me evangelizing it to all my mates, deep down I don't feel anything like as good about it as I did in October last year.
Actually, I just remembered another thing that went wrong this morning - when I came out of the (constantly crashing) Comica app, the screen graphics went all ape**** and I had to reboot. Again.
To be honest, with this many issues I would be inclined to think that it's a device specific problem.
Do you have any kind of warranty you could claim on?
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I understand a lot of the little frustrations, especially with the update delays, but one thing that did stand out for me is the comment about stability... having to restart your phone to get basic functionality (app launching) going again. I very seldom (less than once a month) have needed to reboot my Focus to get some service or app going again. Some apps do have stability issues for me, but a reboot of the phone doesn't appear to be needed... I can simply relaunch the app in question after it returns to the start menu (sometimes I've had an issue where the app needs a couple of launches to sort itself out).
Are you using a WP7 device with a replaced microSD card, or a Samsung Focus with an added microSD card? The stability issues sound like something that I'd expect to see with a non-compliant microSD card, or some hardware issue with the device. I'm running a Samsung Focus with an added 16 GB card (Ridata, class 6 for the curious), and 20+ GB of space has been used on the phone since Dec., and my device sounds like it is far more stable than yours at the moment.
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To be honest, with this many issues I would be inclined to think that it's a device specific problem.
Do you have any kind of warranty you could claim on?
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Well yeah there's a warranty but most of the issues are either with apps or are known software issues.
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I understand a lot of the little frustrations, especially with the update delays, but one thing that did stand out for me is the comment about stability... having to restart your phone to get basic functionality (app launching) going again. I very seldom (less than once a month) have needed to reboot my Focus to get some service or app going again. Some apps do have stability issues for me, but a reboot of the phone doesn't appear to be needed... I can simply relaunch the app in question after it returns to the start menu (sometimes I've had an issue where the app needs a couple of launches to sort itself out).
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I usually try restarting the app at least three times before I reboot. Rebooting always fixes it.
Are you using a WP7 device with a replaced microSD card, or a Samsung Focus with an added microSD card? The stability issues sound like something that I'd expect to see with a non-compliant microSD card, or some hardware issue with the device. I'm running a Samsung Focus with an added 16 GB card (Ridata, class 6 for the curious), and 20+ GB of space has been used on the phone since Dec., and my device sounds like it is far more stable than yours at the moment.
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No it's an HD7 with the stock O2 ROM and stock 16GB card as supplied. I have done nothing to it.
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No it's an HD7 with the stock O2 ROM and stock 16GB card as supplied. I have done nothing to it.
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TBH, I think this is the main problem. HTC isn't exactly known for providing great SD cards with their devices.
I encountered similar issues on my HD7 but haven't seen them on either of the Omnia7's or Optimus7 currently available to me.
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TBH, I think this is the main problem. HTC isn't exactly known for providing great SD cards with their devices.
I encountered similar issues on my HD7 but haven't seen them on either of the Omnia7's or Optimus7 currently available to me.
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But if it was a problem with the storage card, why would rebooting fix it?
If any data on the card was corrupted, it would still be corrupted after the reboot. If it was a transient read error, then retrying would usually work, but it never does.
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But if it was a problem with the storage card, why would rebooting fix it?
If any data on the card was corrupted, it would still be corrupted after the reboot. If it was a transient read error, then retrying would usually work, but it never does.
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I don't know for sure, but I reckon the OS gets bogged down over time. Either due to temporary files or running processes. I didn't investigate much myself as I returned the handset after about a week, but others with certain HTC devices (as well as some DVP owners) have said the problems go away by changing the SD card.
It may also be that it's fixed in NoDo as they have reworked the way memory is accessed. I did however see similar issues in the 7008 build on my Omnia7 - which made me revert to the standard 7004.
Hehe, WP7 is piling it on today. Just tried to download an app.
"Can't get this information at the moment. Check again in a little while."
*Sigh*
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But if it was a problem with the storage card, why would rebooting fix it?
If any data on the card was corrupted, it would still be corrupted after the reboot. If it was a transient read error, then retrying would usually work, but it never does.
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I think we dell venue pro owners are the experts on sd cards and WP7 The known problem with the DVP crashing when using wifi or returning from standby with a black screen is fixed for a lot of people who swapped their sd cards, though not all. For reasons we cant pinpoint WP7 is spectacularly picky about which cards it works with. I myself have tried 2 new cards and have not managed to solve the crashing problem on my DVP.
Quite possibly you are experiencing the same intolerance to certain sd cards on your HD7 as has affected the DVP and possibly a device swap could fix it. I certainly have not experienced the level of individual application failures you have, and that is with a known crash happy device.
I think I will wait for Nodo and see what happens after. There are some bugfixes in Nodo so you never know. Nodo must surely be coming in the next few days.....right?
I thought my alarm troubles were solved as of 7008.. but this morning I was late to work because the alarm on my phone didn't sound.
Perhaps not coincidentally this has happened the first (weekday) morning after the clocks changed here in the UK.
Anyone else's alarm fail this morning?
Anyone have any general observations on the reliability of the alarm?
As an aside, I do often get the alarm ringing "twice" simultaneously - the sound sounds doubled up, and after pressing dismiss once, there's another alarm dialog beneath. Interestingly, this used to happen to me a lot in WM6.5 and earlier - perhaps WP7 isn't as "written from scratch" as it seems...?
Here in US, our DST turned on couple weeks ago and there was a thread about how WP7 alarm failed.
In case you didn't know, WP7 is based on WinCE7.0 OS core. So, it naturally inherit a lot of legacy stuff you know and familiar with the old WM 6.xx. The only exception is that you can't access most of them without jail breaking. WP7 is simply a prettier shell on top of the old WM OS. But so are Android and iOS (both are based on linux core).
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Here in US, our DST turned on couple weeks ago and there was a thread about how WP7 alarm failed.
In case you didn't know, WP7 is based on WinCE7.0 OS core. So, it naturally inherit a lot of legacy stuff you know and familiar with the old WM 6.xx. The only exception is that you can't access most of them without jail breaking. WP7 is simply a prettier shell on top of the old WM OS. But so are Android and iOS (both are based on linux core).
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I thought WP7 was based on the WinCE 6 OS core?
And I think iOS is based on BSD. Android is the Linux-based OS.
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Here in US, our DST turned on couple weeks ago and there was a thread about how WP7 alarm failed.
In case you didn't know, WP7 is based on WinCE7.0 OS core. So, it naturally inherit a lot of legacy stuff you know and familiar with the old WM 6.xx. The only exception is that you can't access most of them without jail breaking. WP7 is simply a prettier shell on top of the old WM OS. But so are Android and iOS (both are based on linux core).
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Yeah, that's fair enough. Sorry I missed the other thread.
I guess I expected something as fundamental as an alarm to be written afresh. Especially if it's known to be unreliable.
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Yeah, that's fair enough. Sorry I missed the other thread.
I guess I expected something as fundamental as an alarm to be written afresh. Especially if it's known to be unreliable.
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That unreliable is baked right into the core
Mmmmm yummy.
No problem here (france)
I'm on GMT hour too and we also got hit with the hour change.
HTC Trophy... time updated on its own and all of the 4 alarms I have currently on the phone worked fine without a glitch, didn't have to do a thing.
No problem here on my Omnia 7 UK.
Updated itself fine.
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Hi,
I've had the same problem (been late because of it numerous times).
The alarm doesn't play sound and the phone only vibrates, or it even
doesn't vibrate at all.
The only "solution" to this, that I found, is to check (before you go to sleep),
can you play music in Zune. I know it sounds silly, but for now it works...
If you can't here music from Zune, then you should restart your device,
and everything should be ok.
Hope it helps
P.S. After pre-Nodo, i didn't come across this problem...yet...
Happened to me few times on 7008, irrespective of DLS. Waking up late I would find my Mozart completely frozen with alarm notification window on the screen. It seems to be a rather common issue, have a look: http://mobilitydigest.com/advice-for-microsoft-wp7-alarm-team-start-over/
http://mobilitydigest.com/the-windows-phone-alarm-bug/
I hope that NODO update fixes this...
Edit: I'm prepared to be corrected but I don't think this issue has been ackowledged by MS.
Never happened to me. I have a T-Mo De Mozart, FW version 1.25.
The alarm issue specific to DST is that if you schedule a one time alarm the night before DST switch over for next morning. The phone fails to take into account of DST switch over the night and the alarm will be off by an hour.
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Never happened to me. I have a T-Mo De Mozart, FW version 1.25.
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Mine is also T-Mobile DE. The issue was present on both .25 and .28 firmware. So hard reset (in between these versions) didn't rectify the problem.
No problems here omnia7004 uk
NoDo Fixed Multiple Alarm Problem?
Have tested it 2 days in a row and works each time.
Pre-NoDo update it failed twice, never tried it again.
5:30am M-F wake-up alarm;
6:25am M-F catch school bus alarm.
Even added a 3rd alarm at 12:30pm just to retest... no problems after NoDo update.
That a fix to the alarm bug wasn't mentioned in the NoDo update details leads me to believe they fixed it and didn't mention or i've just been lucky 2 days in a row.
Cheers
no problems at all on my mozart, my alarm is set on weekdays and it's always ringing. i haven't updated to nodo or the first small update yet
happened today for the 2nd time, don't rely on the phone
no problemo here
Well honestly my Optimus 7 played every single alarm I set on this since the day one.
Problems must be associated with sound playback which is screwed by some games, that is well known, confirmed bug.
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Well honestly my Optimus 7 played every single alarm I set on this since the day one.
Problems must be associated with sound playback which is screwed by some games, that is well known, confirmed bug.
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Well, I don't play games. I listen to music sometimes but the alarm/mute bug seems to be completely random and not related to whether I listened music on this particular day or not. The only factor that has got to be present for the bug to occur is that phone should be plugged to wall charger (which is not easily avoidable for most people since they charge their phones over night).
I don't try Beta releases, but I tried the P anyway, mostly because of the new UI design and stuffs, but I couldn't stay on it for like 30 mins even.
Firstly, and I don't know whether it will be brought back or not, you now have to swipe down from notification bar area twice to access Settings menu! I mean WTF!
Secondly and the most annoying and inconvenient thing, now you can't increase or decrease the Ringer with the volume buttons. No matter what you do Volume buttons now will only control the Media volume! I mean WTAF! I use the Ringtone volume at least 10 times than the damned Media volume! To increase or decrease the Ringtone you now have to click on that tiny Settings icon and then increase the ringer or decrease, and while you do that, your ringtone will be played for a brief period of time, unlike the older method, where you could just slide left or right to decrease or increase from any screen and it will never play the ringtones in the process!
Really? No one goes to any business meetings or something? Now you gotta alert them hey look I am controlling my phone's ringer! What the actual **** Google?
I used it for like 15 mins before coming back to Oreo, but if these changes are made fundamentally then its a big pile of ****.
Oh, and that swipe up from home button, I mean please Google, really? Worst implementation of gesture based navigation one could ever think of! Either gestures should be done from full screen or go back to old nav bar or just GTFO!
Every Android update now seems to think how to make users spend more time in trying to do the simple things, it's baffling how inconvenient the experience is becoming. Remember in Nougat we actually had double tap to lock screen and then swipe to unlock? Never had to press the power button, ever. Now with Oreo they got rid of that, quad tap was introduced and now with P these even more stupid things are here.
Is it time? I mean to go back to dumb-phones or something?
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I don't try Beta releases, but I tried the P anyway, mostly because of the new UI design and stuffs, but I couldn't stay on it for like 30 mins even.
Firstly, and I don't know whether it will be brought back or not, you now have to swipe down from notification bar area twice to access Settings menu! I mean WTF!
Secondly and the most annoying and inconvenient thing, now you can't increase or decrease the Ringer with the volume buttons. No matter what you do Volume buttons now will only control the Media volume! I mean WTAF! I use the Ringtone volume at least 10 times than the damned Media volume! To increase or decrease the Ringtone you now have to click on that tiny Settings icon and then increase the ringer or decrease, and while you do that, your ringtone will be played for a brief period of time, unlike the older method, where you could just slide left or right to decrease or increase from any screen and it will never play the ringtones in the process!
Really? No one goes to any business meetings or something? Now you gotta alert them hey look I am controlling my phone's ringer! What the actual **** Google?
I used it for like 15 mins before coming back to Oreo, but if these changes are made fundamentally then its a big pile of ****.
Oh, and that swipe up from home button, I mean please Google, really? Worst implementation of gesture based navigation one could ever think of! Either gestures should be done from full screen or go back to old nav bar or just GTFO!
Every Android update now seems to think how to make users spend more time in trying to do the simple things, it's baffling how inconvenient the experience is becoming. Remember in Nougat we actually had double tap to lock screen and then swipe to unlock? Never had to press the power button, ever. Now with Oreo they got rid of that, quad tap was introduced and now with P these even more stupid things are here.
Is it time? I mean to go back to dumb-phones or something?
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Definitely all you.
1. You've got me with the settings, but I don't usually get to settings through there, so for me, I could care less.
2. Umm, how about you, ya know, put your phone on silent BEFORE you go into the meeting? 90% of the time I touch the volume buttons, it's for media. My ringer is either on, off, or vibrate. I very rarely set it to a lower volume. When I'm in a business meeting, I'm there for business. I don't need my phone to go off, even low.
3. I like the gesture nav, so you've lost me on that one as well.
If you don't like it, I'm sure you'll have other manufacturers who still include the regular nav bar. Doubt Android will completely take it away, at least for the foreseeable future. Maybe on Pixel devices, but they won't enforce that globally. Android is changing. It's been changing. You either change to keep up with times, or you try to trailblaze. I've had Android since the g1 .. trust me, you learn to take the good with the bad. At least in the preview the gestures are an option. The double tap does annoy me a bit, but at the end of the day ... It's a phone. It will take me less than a second to tap two more times, and go about my life. There is no reason to be raging this hard. Nobody is forcing you to update
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I use the Ringtone volume at least 10 times than the damned Media volume!
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You are one of a very small number of people. Most people have been asking for Google to make this change for years, because almost nobody changes their ringer volume. If you need to silence your phone, why not use the "Do Not Disturb" quick tile, instead of changing your ringer volume?
This is actually the one change I am most excited for with Android P, because it was one of the reasons I used to use Lineage.
Omg! This stupidly accepting mentality is the reason why Google will not be bothering to consider bringing back the practical, convenient options any more!
I mean jeez! Time is obviously of no importance to the people who can adapt with time wasting method rather than time saving ones! Like double tapping to quad tapping. Like going into sound option and then get the option for changing ringer volume, rather than just hitting volume buttons! Also it's so aesthetically displeasing. Every time you wanna change the ringer you'll hear the ringtone, RoFL.
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Omg! This stupidly accepting mentality is the reason why Google will not be bothering to consider bringing back the practical, convenient options any more!
I mean jeez! Time is obviously of no importance to the people who can adapt with time wasting method rather than time saving ones! Like double tapping to quad tapping. Like going into sound option and then get the option for changing ringer volume, rather than just hitting volume buttons! Also it's so aesthetically displeasing. Every time you wanna change the ringer you'll hear the ringtone, RoFL.
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Are you a child? Honestly, you sound stupid. Times change. Go back to another manufacturer, as I'm sure there are those who will do things differently. If you think quad tapping is going to take years off your life, you must be expecting to live for a mighty long time. It's not that huge a deal. You're making a mountain of an anthill. You only want what YOU want, and don't care what anyone else wants. YOU think it's dumb, so you think everyone must agree. Grow up. To change my ringer, I simply press the volume button, then click the icon for silent, audible, or vibrate. I don't change my ringer volume 10+ times a day. Most of the people who have been asking for YEARS don't. We get it, you want to go back to nougat forever. Then do so, and shut up. Honestly. Every single time Google changes something people complain. They aren't forcing you to use Android. If you don't like it, there are alternatives, or you can learn to program yourself and make your own. Year after year you people belly ache over a FREE operating system. My time is very valuable, which is why I don't spend so much time on it to need to change volume 10+ times a day, or worry about having to quad tap the few times I actually need the phone. When I pull it out of my pocket, it lights up. Double tap. I'm not glued to my device. Also, I don't think it's aesthetically displeasing. I enjoy it. I also prefer German cars over Japanese. I think the Audi rs4 looks better than the Mitsubishi Eclipse. I like vanilla instead of chocolate. The world is full of different flavors than just what YOU want, and you'll get further in life the less you complain because things aren't going your way, and start enjoying what you have. Officially done with this stupid thread.
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Are you a child? Honestly, you sound stupid. Times change. Go back to another manufacturer, as I'm sure there are those who will do things differently. If you think quad tapping is going to take years off your life, you must be expecting to live for a mighty long time. It's not that huge a deal. You're making a mountain of an anthill. You only want what YOU want, and don't care what anyone else wants. YOU think it's dumb, so you think everyone must agree. Grow up. To change my ringer, I simply press the volume button, then click the icon for silent, audible, or vibrate. I don't change my ringer volume 10+ times a day. Most of the people who have been asking for YEARS don't. We get it, you want to go back to nougat forever. Then do so, and shut up. Honestly. Every single time Google changes something people complain. They aren't forcing you to use Android. If you don't like it, there are alternatives, or you can learn to program yourself and make your own. Year after year you people belly ache over a FREE operating system. My time is very valuable, which is why I don't spend so much time on it to need to change volume 10+ times a day, or worry about having to quad tap the few times I actually need the phone. When I pull it out of my pocket, it lights up. Double tap. I'm not glued to my device. Also, I don't think it's aesthetically displeasing. I enjoy it. I also prefer German cars over Japanese. I think the Audi rs4 looks better than the Mitsubishi Eclipse. I like vanilla instead of chocolate. The world is full of different flavors than just what YOU want, and you'll get further in life the less you complain because things aren't going your way, and start enjoying what you have. Officially done with this stupid thread.
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Calm the **** down. My complaint is against Google, not you. Though I have seen Google shills before, so nothing new.
If your time is as valuable as you claim it is, then you would not have preferred more time consuming thing, period, simply confirms you're just another Google shill, or just someone needing medical care.
I didn't ask you to say anything here, you came yourself, because you were pissed off simply because I pointed out facts of Google's idiosyncratic choices. Simply bugger off if you think topic is stupid, I for one not giving the slightest damn about it anyway.
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Secondly and the most annoying and inconvenient thing, now you can't increase or decrease the Ringer with the volume buttons. No matter what you do Volume buttons now will only control the Media volume! I mean WTAF! I use the Ringtone volume at least 10 times than the damned Media volume! To increase or decrease the Ringtone you now have to click on that tiny Settings icon and then increase the ringer or decrease, and while you do that, your ringtone will be played for a brief period of time, unlike the older method, where you could just slide left or right to decrease or increase from any screen and it will never play the ringtones in the process!
Really? No one goes to any business meetings or something? Now you gotta alert them hey look I am controlling my phone's ringer! What the actual **** Google?
I used it for like 15 mins before coming back to Oreo, but if these changes are made fundamentally then its a big pile of ****.
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Ringer on/off is power button + volume down.
really dude?
It's pretty quick to turn off the ringer... Hit the volume control then touch the bell on top of the volume slider.
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Calm the **** down. My complaint is against Google, not you. Though I have seen Google shills before, so nothing new.
If your time is as valuable as you claim it is, then you would not have preferred more time consuming thing, period, simply confirms you're just another Google shill, or just someone needing medical care.
I didn't ask you to say anything here, you came yourself, because you were pissed off simply because I pointed out facts of Google's idiosyncratic choices. Simply bugger off if you think topic is stupid, I for one not giving the slightest damn about it anyway.
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I'm gonna suggest you are the one needing to calm down here.
I'm on P.
Now I'm getting used to how it's working, I'm liking it.
Still needs some tweaks, and you can turn off gestures if it's really causing you sleepless nights
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I'm gonna suggest you are the one needing to calm down here.
I'm on P.
Now I'm getting used to how it's working, I'm liking it.
Still needs some tweaks, and you can turn off gestures if it's really causing you sleepless nights
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No, i was calm. Just because i made one forum post seemed to look like i was raging, it has no relation with my personal life.
Like i said, I'm not the accepting lot, I'll never support this stupid ass decision of Google. And I'll die before becoming a shill. If you like it, good for you, the shills, not saying you are, mostly like whatever Google brings about without even giving it a personal thought, good for them, well not really but whatever.
You understand that the P Beta is not the final release and that Google actually throws stuff out there that they aren't 100% sure about just to get public feedback on it, right? P isn't perfect.. It crashes apps fairly often... But... you know... it's in Beta... If you don't want to deal with some things that aren't quite polished yet, don't participate in the Beta testing.
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No, i was calm. Just because i made one forum post seemed to look like i was raging, it has no relation with my personal life.
Like i said, I'm not the accepting lot, I'll never support this stupid ass decision of Google. And I'll die before becoming a shill. If you like it, good for you, the shills, not saying you are, mostly like whatever Google brings about without even giving it a personal thought, good for them, well not really but whatever.
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If this is your "calm", I suggest there are deeper issues you might want to look into. "I'll never support this stupid ass decision of google. And I'll die before becoming a shill"
ISSUES!!!
Also, for the record, that ISN'T calm. That's wound up over something
As stated above, this is Beta, and this is a testing environment. Maybe this environment isn't best for someone who doesn't like change?
For me, P has been great. Especially battery life.
I love how everything you hate is everything I love on P and why I'm never going back. I was just thinking who adjusts their ringer volume a few weeks back, guess I found the 1 person.
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If this is your "calm", I suggest there are deeper issues you might want to look into. "I'll never support this stupid ass decision of google. And I'll die before becoming a shill"
ISSUES!!!
Also, for the record, that ISN'T calm. That's wound up over something
As stated above, this is Beta, and this is a testing environment. Maybe this environment isn't best for someone who doesn't like change?
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Yeah ROFL, ISSUES, I mean yeah, with you lots. Someone who found issues with me preferring death than a Google shill definitely is the one with the issue.
Something should be be tried to fixed if it's not broken, old saying, but **** that yeah, those who don't understand who need to change their ringtone volume often obviously never went to office or meetings, otherwise this would not have been even needed to think as to the reasoning, FFS, damned 16 year old kids, what would they know about phone calls at first place, sorry my fault.
I sincerely hope Google will revert to old method, because it's simply changing how mobile phones should work, the very fundamental thing, and even for a beta they shouldn't have done that and apologise for the same.
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Yeah ROFL, ISSUES, I mean yeah, with you lots. Someone who found issues with me preferring death than a Google shill definitely is the one with the issue.
Something should be be tried to fixed if it's not broken, old saying, but **** that yeah, those who don't understand who need to change their ringtone volume often obviously never went to office or meetings, otherwise this would not have been even needed to think as to the reasoning, FFS, damned 16 year old kids, what would they know about phone calls at first place, sorry my fault.
I sincerely hope Google will revert to old method, because it's simply changing how mobile phones should work, the very fundamental thing, and even for a beta they shouldn't have done that and apologise for the same.
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They won't revert to the old method. They made it clear that this is their plan and its the number one request they had from users. You can revert back and just avoid updates or try lineageos if you prefer that method and make changes on your own. Most of us in an office environment walk in and turn on vibrate mode. I can tell you none of the people on my floor operate by turning down the volume. We all go into meetings and if the sound went off in the customer meeting even at low volumes we would be kicked out of the meetings. I travel 2-3 times a month and I've never been in a customer meeting where they left their phone on at low volumes. Again, its up to you to live your life how you want, but I recommend not assuming we aren't going through the same things. Anyhow, why don't you try switching methods? try the silent mode vs the low ringer. Is there a particular reason you don't like it on vibrate mode? Some of these things can be changed via apps as well. For instance, Tasker can automate your volume adjustment based on events and location if you want.
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They won't revert to the old method. They made it clear that this is their plan and its the number one request they had from users. You can revert back and just avoid updates or try lineageos if you prefer that method and make changes on your own. Most of us in an office environment walk in and turn on vibrate mode. I can tell you none of the people on my floor operate by turning down the volume. We all go into meetings and if the sound went off in the customer meeting even at low volumes we would be kicked out of the meetings. I travel 2-3 times a month and I've never been in a customer meeting where they left their phone on at low volumes. Again, its up to you to live your life how you want, but I recommend not assuming we aren't going through the same things. Anyhow, why don't you try switching methods? try the silent mode vs the low ringer. Is there a particular reason you don't like it on vibrate mode? Some of these things can be changed via apps as well. For instance, Tasker can automate your volume adjustment based on events and location if you want.
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Oh dear lord, I hate any type of ringing at all, back in the days when mobile phones were still thick as brick I never used anything other than vibrate mode, but nowadays these slim phones can't be felt vibrating inside pockets, so you must have the ringtone enabled. Anyway, that's not the point. A low sounded ringtone is still a ringtone, which you can hear, however faint but enough to reach your ears and at the same time not disturbing others, and for you to not miss a call, but vibration can missed if you are a bit distanced from your desk.
If ringtones were meant to stay at a static level, then there would not have been different volume levels at all! And how funny could something be when you can't control your mobile phone's ringtone with your volume rocker. I don't know which sort of users requested this, and I don't know to depth of daftness got into Google to approve a dreadful request like that. I am still more than confident that this will be reverted though. Stupidity lasts not longer.
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Oh dear lord, I hate any type of ringing at all, back in the days when mobile phones were still thick as brick I never used anything other than vibrate mode, but nowadays these slim phones can't be felt vibrating inside pockets, so you must have the ringtone enabled. Anyway, that's not the point. A low sounded ringtone is still a ringtone, which you can hear, however faint but enough to reach your ears and at the same time not disturbing others, and for you to not miss a call, but vibration can missed if you are a bit distanced from your desk.
If ringtones were meant to stay at a static level, then there would not have been different volume levels at all! And how funny could something be when you can't control your mobile phone's ringtone with your volume rocker. I don't know which sort of users requested this, and I don't know to depth of daftness got into Google to approve a dreadful request like that. I am still more than confident that this will be reverted though. Stupidity lasts not longer.
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you might look at getting push bullet if you can't hear the phone vibrating like a jackhammer on your desk. Just a thought.
ithehappy said:
Yeah ROFL, ISSUES, I mean yeah, with you lots. Someone who found issues with me preferring death than a Google shill definitely is the one with the issue.
Something should be be tried to fixed if it's not broken, old saying, but **** that yeah, those who don't understand who need to change their ringtone volume often obviously never went to office or meetings, otherwise this would not have been even needed to think as to the reasoning, FFS, damned 16 year old kids, what would they know about phone calls at first place, sorry my fault.
I sincerely hope Google will revert to old method, because it's simply changing how mobile phones should work, the very fundamental thing, and even for a beta they shouldn't have done that and apologise for the same.
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Google needs to revert back because of 1 person.
gonna happen.
when you say you'd rather die than be a shill (who uses "shill" this millenia?!) - then you need to put the tech down. walk away, look at some tranquil scenery
I don't know exactly what I did that made this start happening, but right now every time a toast message pops up it stays on the screen for over 10 seconds. If there are other messages queued up then it will display all of them one after another each for over 10 seconds. I did a Google search and could not find a solution. Has this happened to anyone else?
I've tried everything short of a factory reset. I rebooted and safe mode and it still happens. I reset all of the application preferences, as far as permissions and that sort of thing goes, that fixed a few issues I've been experiencing but the toast problem persists.
Is this a bug? is there a solution? Can you adjust the timeout for toast messages? Are there any third party apps that change this setting on an unrooted phone that I unwittingly may have used?
Will I be forced to do a full factory reset to fix this problem? It's really annoying, haha!
thanks in advance for any help
I did everything including a factory reset and those toast messages still did the same thing, so I am thinking it definitely is an OS system upgrade problem!!! It is so annoying !!
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I did everything including a factory reset and those toast messages still did the same thing, so I am thinking it definitely is an OS system upgrade problem!!! It is so annoying !!
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I still don't understand if this happens on everybody's Pixel 3 or if it's just ours. if it's just a few people then there has to be a common thing that caused it to start doing this. I haven't thought about it too much but my first suspicion was SystemUITuner. did you by chance install that and change anything using it?
I can't think of anything else that I have had to enable permissions with ADB for on here that would have messed with the display settings.
I've been rooting every phone I owned since cupcake. usually owning more than one at a time because well that just makes your power level go up exponentially ... through carelessness and not reading what I needed to before purchasing my Verizon Pixel 3 XL, This is the first phone I've had in my life for more than a month or so that was a daily driver without root.
my point is, I really can't think of a reason why the timeout for all toast messages system wide would suddenly change to be 30 seconds long instead of three. I would have bet on it that that is something that you need root to alter. ??*
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looking at Google's past release schedule and also starting to hear rumors about Android 11 (they did put a system image up on Google's page but you cannot install it without an unlocked bootloader), we should start hearing official announcements about it soon, with beta1 probably end of April beginning of May.
Even if there are a few not annoying bugs I think it would be worth the upgrade to get rid of these toast messages covering all kinds of stuff that I need to be reading NOW! not in (in the case of three or four toasted pop-up great after each other) 2 minutes later when I've already Ben distracted and can't remember what I was wanting to be able to tap on that was under the eternal-1 toast message timeout.
it's very interesting to me that if you Google this problem there's maybe one or two results. I'm very curious what we are doing to cause this issue. if you or anyone from the future is reading this and knows This information please leave a little response or just post a link it, so maybe I can die happy having finally solved this riddle
thank you in advance
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I stumbled upon this after googling the same issue.
I'm not sure if we had the same issue, but I just noticed that it was the "Time to take action (Accessibility timeout)" option, under Settings > Accessibility that made my toasts be long than 3 seconds.
Although it should be on "Default" by default (duh), so if you didn't change this, it must be something else.
Just thought I'd mention it.
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... it was the "Time to take action (Accessibility timeout)" option, under Settings > Accessibility that made my toasts be long than 3 seconds.
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Oh my, thank you so much, I had the same problem and this solved it!!!
I wish there was a way to make it shorter than 3 seconds but from my research it can not be changed can it?
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looking at Google's past release schedule and also starting to hear rumors about Android 11 (they did put a system image up on Google's page but you cannot install it without an unlocked bootloader), we should start hearing official announcements about it soon, with beta1 probably end of April beginning of May.
Even if there are a few not annoying bugs I think it would be worth the upgrade to get rid of these toast messages covering all kinds of stuff that I need to be reading NOW! not in (in the case of three or four toasted pop-up great after each other) 2 minutes later when I've already Ben distracted and can't remember what I was wanting to be able to tap on that was under the eternal-1 toast message timeout.
it's very interesting to me that if you Google this problem there's maybe one or two results. I'm very curious what we are doing to cause this issue. if you or anyone from the future is reading this and knows This information please leave a little response or just post a link it, so maybe I can die happy having finally solved this riddle
thank you in advance
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Just an FYI, coming from AT&T prepaid 6 years during the covid party the depth AT&T is it has taken me 9 months to move to postpay. It is a corporation a complete morons above customer support. All my problems are met with an upsell attempt and I have bit once or twice in return I was kindly bitten all this to say that they put a Motorola one 5G Ace 64 4G ram in my hand and I have the same issue except might hang for 20 to 45 seconds it seems like 90 seconds! May well be. Obviously they're not translucent but the desktop or any operation underneath it will take a finger command if you know where the hell to push. I did not get it from Amazon but I was looking to upgrade to the 128 prior and post this phone and one of the main salesman there with Motorola America which of course is not a Motorola product it's just a Motorola name. The ruination of a long-standing pioneer groundbreaking company! and he wanted to know more information from me and wants me to become a free paid intern or some crap and help them figure out what's going on so there you go? I am sure I am not the only one and just as sure as I am of that, I am sure that the people that make them and sell them and talk about them all day to potential customers or two customers have no freaking idea what their products do.!!
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Oh my, thank you so much, I had the same problem and this solved it!!!
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testbug said:
I stumbled upon this after googling the same issue.
I'm not sure if we had the same issue, but I just noticed that it was the "Time to take action (Accessibility timeout)" option, under Settings > Accessibility that made my toasts be long than 3 seconds.
Although it should be on "Default" by default (duh), so if you didn't change this, it must be something else.
Just thought I'd mention it.
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dude... thank you.
i dunno how leaving a toast message on top of the buttons you need TO take action helps but that is what caused, likely, or at least what corrected the issue for me.
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testbug said:
I stumbled upon this after googling the same issue.
I'm not sure if we had the same issue, but I just noticed that it was the "Time to take action (Accessibility timeout)" option, under Settings > Accessibility that made my toasts be long than 3 seconds.
Although it should be on "Default" by default (duh), so if you didn't change this, it must be something else.
Just thought I'd mention it.II
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I can't find this accesability option on my note 10 + g975fd bubi know it was some kind of setting somewhere because I remember turning it on trying to see some message it waS throwing while I was setting up some Tasker task. Which makes me think it might have been turned on by option for a tasker action but I'll be damned if I can find it again. It's actually nice most of the time but lately it's been really annoying to me because it shows over the keyboard and most of the time an OK or cancel prompt. And like previously mentioned if there are ten of them its quite a long time to wait. And I also turned something on that does a toast every time an intent is launched so you can see how this has multiplied the issue. I think it's one of those situations like (in Tasker you can say launch so n so app, one of the potions is to make the app launch a new instance and another is to have the app not appear in recents. That's all fine gravy for that instance but nobody anywhere ever says that from now on any time you launch that app that it will launch a new instance and it won't appear in recents) whether it's in Tasker or from the Launcher or if you just switch to another app and back. It quickly becomes an issue when you are trying to enter passwords or watch Netflix and do something else real quick. And if you don't put 2 together with 2 because you didn't notice right a way it can be a brain bender trying to figure the little problem out. I'm thinking that's what I have done is set some obscure option for God knows what experimental task and now its stuck that way. But it's really not something I want to bother joã (Tasker de"sorry for spelling") with and he may not know anyway. But thanks for the thread and any other suggestions would be appreciated.
For the past...3 days...my new Google Pixel 6 Pro has decided that 7 am is a good wake up time for me (the cats don't mind, they get fed earlier). It's not an alarm though, there's nothing to disable on the screen, and talking to the assistant to "disable alarm" does nothing. It starts at 7 sharp and crescendos until it ends at 7:02 exactly.
I looked through threads, and couldn't find anything similar, so am wondering if anyone else has experienced anything like this?
I know I had something similar, and there have definitely been similar reports previously in this section, although it's not Pixel 6-specific, and might not even be Pixel-specific at all. Check the "Bedtime" tab at the bottom right of the Clock app. Although in that case, it did show up as a separate alarm as well when I had it enabled.
Thanks for the thougth - that wasn't even enabled yet on my phone. Go figure, yesterday (my birthday as it were), I woke up on my own at 3 am and it never went off. This morning though? Back to the shenanagins. At this point I'm about ready to throw my hands in the air and just SET my normal alarm to 7!
As much of a pain it can be, I think if I were in your shoes for much longer, I would consider a factory reset. Either that or we could trade phones - my wake up time is 7 AM most mornings. j/k
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For the past...3 days...my new Google Pixel 6 Pro has decided that 7 am is a good wake up time for me (the cats don't mind, they get fed earlier). It's not an alarm though, there's nothing to disable on the screen, and talking to the assistant to "disable alarm" does nothing. It starts at 7 sharp and crescendos until it ends at 7:02 exactly.
I looked through threads, and couldn't find anything similar, so am wondering if anyone else has experienced anything like this?
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Do you use Tasker? If so, I think the "Use Reliable Alarms" setting needs to be disabled, although this may relate to another clock/alarm issue and not the one you're having. Can try it anyway.
Lughnasadh said:
Do you use Tasker? If so, I think the "Use Reliable Alarms" setting needs to be disabled, although this may relate to another clock/alarm issue and not the one you're having. Can try it anyway.
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Sadly, not any more. I had previously removed Join (by I think the same author) because it meant going through adb and even then it didn't always work properly.
So, set my "normal" alarm to 7 am tomorrow. We'll see if that overrides the annoying alarm with my normal alarm. If so, I guess I just...deal with getting up at 7 am? Yay? My writing partner will appreciate that if it means I get more writing done...
When I flashed a13 beta 4.1 , I rebooted the device after root and this clicking sound came out of my p6pro, with no way to stop it. It got louder as it went too, scared me a bit
It was the alarm that must've been backed up to my Gmail or something. All I could do was flash the firmware again.
Rask40 said:
So, set my "normal" alarm to 7 am tomorrow. We'll see if that overrides the annoying alarm with my normal alarm. If so, I guess I just...deal with getting up at 7 am? Yay? My writing partner will appreciate that if it means I get more writing done...
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Does the one that you don't intentionally have use a different alarm sound, or anything else different about it (what the icon and/or alarm screen when it's going off)?
Yeah, finish Game of Thrones, will ya?
roirraW edor ehT said:
Does the one that you don't intentionally have use a different alarm sound, or anything else different about it (what the icon and/or alarm screen when it's going off)?
Yeah, finish Game of Thrones, will ya?
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Yeah, it's got a beep that steadily increases in volume and frequency. BOTH went off at 7 am this morning, with me disabling MY alarm in relatively short order (have to solve a math problem) but the rogue one going until 7:02.
Haha, I wish I was that successful. I'd be happy to just break even on a book at this point!
Rask40 said:
Yeah, it's got a beep that steadily increases in volume and frequency. BOTH went off at 7 am this morning, with me disabling MY alarm in relatively short order (have to solve a math problem) but the rogue one going until 7:02.
Haha, I wish I was that successful. I'd be happy to just break even on a book at this point!
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When you got your phone did you install your apps from a backup, maybe from another phone? Also, do you have an old calendar event that may be triggering this?
Yes, I installed from my old phone, a Motorola One 5G Ace. It didn't really do it as a backup, which I thought was odd, but paired the two phones somehow.
I have no events on my calendar at 7 am. Any of my calendars, actually. I just went through them all and checked. I don't think I have any truly oddball apps - though I did have to switch to one new app with the transition to this phone. Pure Calendar Widget was no longer available, so I went to the paid version of Business Calendar. That doesn't appear to have any alarms associated with it.
I'm really at a loss. And as much as it would annoy me, I'm debating the factory reset. But if I restore from a backup, wouldn't I just be restoring the same problem back into place?
Rask40 said:
Yes, I installed from my old phone, a Motorola One 5G Ace. It didn't really do it as a backup, which I thought was odd, but paired the two phones somehow.
I have no events on my calendar at 7 am. Any of my calendars, actually. I just went through them all and checked. I don't think I have any truly oddball apps - though I did have to switch to one new app with the transition to this phone. Pure Calendar Widget was no longer available, so I went to the paid version of Business Calendar. That doesn't appear to have any alarms associated with it.
I'm really at a loss. And as much as it would annoy me, I'm debating the factory reset. But if I restore from a backup, wouldn't I just be restoring the same problem back into place?
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If you installed/transferred from an old phone, I'm wondering if you have an app or setting or something that got transferred over that is causing this. Maybe a system app that doesn't show up in the user app list or something.
Yeah, I wouldn't restore from an old phone or backup. Seen people have problems when doing this. A clean flash, imo, is always best when setting up a new phone, including clean installing all your apps. At least it will eliminate any problems that may have been caused by restoring old app data, etc...
See, part of my issue is I don't want to lose voicemails etc. My Mom died 2 months ago, so I want to make sure I keep those messages as long as I can...
I guess I go back to removing apps that I don't use consistently until I find the one causing issues.
I'll find out in several hours for sure, but I think I have been completely missing the mark blaming my phone (and it goes to show my hearing perception is fading) ... I got a new atomic alarm clock at the end of last month. After the beeping alarm went off this morning and my head happened to be turned in a different direction, I went over to that alarm clock and the alarm was turned on. Sigh. I've turned it off, but I bet you that solves my issues.
Boy do I feel like a moron now...
Not much help but when it goes off go to settings and look on notifications and should show rouge app that way maybe also you could try do not disturb mode but alarms could over ride it
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I'll find out in several hours for sure, but I think I have been completely missing the mark blaming my phone (and it goes to show my hearing perception is fading) ... I got a new atomic alarm clock at the end of last month. After the beeping alarm went off this morning and my head happened to be turned in a different direction, I went over to that alarm clock and the alarm was turned on. Sigh. I've turned it off, but I bet you that solves my issues.
Boy do I feel like a moron now...
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Wow, glad you found the cause. That's all that matters.
A couple of years ago, for weeks I kept getting woken up by a noise which I was assuming was related to our cat (even though it was a new and regular noise). I finally found it was our spare refrigerator's icemaker accidentally got turned on, and I don't have that fridge hooked up to the water, so it kept trying to make ice out of air, and that fridge is on exactly the opposite side of the wall I sleep on. Not the same thing as your situation, but man, now the one or two times after that I heard that noise, I went straight to the spare fridge, and it was always that the icemaker accidentally got turned on, but it doesn't happen anymore, as we both now know to double-check that "arm" that turns it on after we're done in that fridge's freezer.
That alarm didn't go off this morning (shocker, right?) ... but I must have had a night terror that woke me up earlier, because I SWEAR I experienced my "normal alarm" (having to solve a math problem to turn off the alarm) and when I looked at the clock it was 6:43. I had adjusted my normal alarm back to 8:15. Needless to say I was up far before that point!
Great, so this stuff is driving me so nuts it's freaking me out in my sleep!