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How to check specs on a Windows Phone 7 .. phone

So I'm sitting here with a Samsung Cetus running Windows Phone 7 and beside the about menu in system settings, is there anyway to check for more specs.
I'm looking for CPU, RAM and so on.

There's a "more info" button on that page that shows the memory, etc. Don't think CPU or other chipset info is exposed anywhere.
And pics?

Woha, that's the only phone I think will have something else than Qualcrap, Cetus is the one I will buy.
Disassemble it now!! I want to know the specs

Sadly the more info button only shows model, Windows Phone 7 and storage. Total Storage: 7.39gb -- Ava. Storage: 6.88gb
And then revision of firmware, hardware, radio, bootloader and chip SOC.
Not sure I can share pics of it. It's not Cetus btw, my bad, had them mistaken. (CORRECTION: IT IS CETUS) It's the Samsung GT-i8700, not sure it has a name, unless they decide to call Samsung GT-i8700 Cetus.
Giz has pictures of it: http://gizmodo.com/5634058/leaked-shots-of-windows-phone-7+running-samsung-gt+i8700 The version I have is identical in looks, though a newer build in software.

Would probably require you to sketch up a quick application. Not sure if there's any APIs that allow you to read out any significant information.

Yeah you are properly right, but I'm not even sure if I can install an app, if it's not on the market

Erroneus said:
Yeah you are properly right, but I'm not even sure if I can install an app, if it's not on the market
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Should be able to hook it up to a pc and deploy one (might require you to be a dev in the marketplace though). That doesn't change the fact that we don't have an app to do the checking hah.

Hmm, using the GraphicsAdapter stuff from XNA you might be able to glean some information to close in on the stuff. For instance, would it say something like "Adreno 205" (assuming there's such detailed information there and that the WP7 XNA API supports it), you'll know that it's the second generation chipset.

Good idea, installing XNA 4.0 now.

Ideally the whole Visual Studio Express for WP7 shebang, or whatever it is called.

http://www.storageserver.be/images/xnagraphics.jpg
The Vendor ID in there is the one from NVidia and the Device ID the one of the 8800GT. Coincidentally, there's a NVidia 8800GT in my system.
I figure that the ARM SoC's or the internal graphics devices have similar IDs registered.
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http://www.storageserver.be/gatest.zip
That silly project. It's possible that you need to register the device as developer device on the WM marketplace to deploy stuff. No idea.
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http://www.pcidatabase.com/
Vendor ID's here.

Tom Servo said:
http://www.storageserver.be/images/xnagraphics.jpg
The Vendor ID in there is the one from NVidia and the Device ID the one of the 8800GT. Coincidentally, there's a NVidia 8800GT in my system.
I figure that the ARM SoC's or the internal graphics devices have similar IDs registered.
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http://www.storageserver.be/gatest.zip
That silly project. It's possible that you need to register the device as developer device on the WM marketplace to deploy stuff. No idea.
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http://www.pcidatabase.com/
Vendor ID's here.
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Does it have a 4 inch screen?

Doesn't look like this is going to be easy. Windows can't see the phone, because of missing drivers
It's a 4 inch screen.

Erroneus said:
Doesn't look like this is going to be easy. Windows can't see the phone, because of missing drivers
It's a 4 inch screen.
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Yea, you need the Zune 4.7 that's posted on the private Microsoft Connect site.

Is that a late developer phone, or did you get your hands early on a different way?

Tom Servo said:
Is that a late developer phone, or did you get your hands early on a different way?
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Hands early on a different way for a couple of days, giving back some feedback to one who lend me it.
I also had Desire HD for some days, I'm more impressed with this one though, but that's properly because everything is so new and fresh

OMG you lucky b*stard lol! Other than the 4in screen, and 8gb storage which you've mentioned. Things I (we) need to know:
CPU, GPU (if possible), RAM, overall device dimensions, and last but not least, Battery size. Hope you get back to us soon, I really like this device, cus its probably the only one that might not have a Qualcomm/Adreno200 chip.

The battery is at 1500 mAH, but I have no way to check for CPU, GPU and RAM sadly. But it's really fast, even in this beta version of Windows Phone 7.
Dimensions:
Length: 122 mm (4.8 inches)
Width: 64 mm (2.52 inches)
Height: 11 mm (0.43 inches)

Thanks Erroneus.
Wow, battery and dimensions looks to be the same as the Galaxy S (tho about 1mm thicker). The 4in (super?) amoled screen and 1500mah battery has put this to the top of my wish list.
The LG phone supposedly has a speech-to-text feature. Would you know if this sammy device has that feature also?
Also does it have a front facing camera?

The screen is very good, it looks like super amoled, because the colors are very vibrant comparing to iPhone 4 and Desire.
It has voice to command features, like "open internet explorer", I don't see any "speech-to-text feature", but the software is still beta and without special customizations from Samsung.
There seems to be a front facing camera, I just can't find anywhere to enable it.

[Q]Need Suggestions on buying Wave II

I'm going to buy wave II today, why? that's because it has the same hardware as galaxy s and it's 200 CHF (stronger then USD) cheaper than galaxy s and now that the android 2.2 alpha is here, i have no reason not to buy this. I would like some quick suggestions about this device...i mean...i would want to have a moderate gaming on this device + video calling on yahoo/skype...so tell me if there are good games for bada and what's the future of this phone (android stable with dual boot?)

Dito. Got mine today and don't know whether to keep it or sell it. But where did you find an Android alpha?

433Mhz said:
Dito. Got mine today and don't know whether to keep it or sell it. But where did you find an Android alpha?
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It's an incomplete version and i don't think it's available to everyone:
The project to port Android
Froyo 2.2 on Wave
Looking forward to more suggestions

Forget about Androbada. Nothing has been released, they only ***** about everything and I think they stopped working. Looks like a fake to me.

shad0wboss said:
I'm going to buy wave II today, why? that's because it has the same hardware as galaxy s and it's 200 CHF (stronger then USD) cheaper than galaxy s and now that the android 2.2 alpha is here, i have no reason not to buy this. I would like some quick suggestions about this device...i mean...i would want to have a moderate gaming on this device + video calling on yahoo/skype...so tell me if there are good games for bada and what's the future of this phone (android stable with dual boot?)
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Dont buy a bada device! you will be disapppinted. there is no skype or anyother voip app. if you say you want to buy it because of hardware , then i will say a hardware is useless unless it has a good software. in the same range you could buy other android device like galaxy ace. Bada app store is filled with bul**** applications. there are 13000 apps and games in market but only 10 or 20 usefull applications.13000 figure is achived because a lots of theme are in app store. due to this huge no of theme searching for a particular app is troublesome.The no. of free app available in market is not good and none of them are of any use. Web browsing experience is very poor. web browser is crap. address bar hides the top portion of page and you cant click a single link situated on top of the web page. No flash 10.1 support. And many more more disadvantages. if i try to write them all the whole page will be filled.

badelemental said:
Dont buy a bada device! you will be disapppinted. there is no skype or anyother voip app. if you say you want to buy it because of hardware , then i will say a hardware is useless because it has a good software. in the same range you could buy other android device like galaxy ace. Bada app store is filled with bul**** applications. there are 13000 apps and games in market but only 10 or 20 usefull applications.13000 figure is achived because a lots of theme are in app store. due to this huge no of theme searching for a particular app is troublesome.The no. of free app available in market is not good and none of them are of any use. Web browsing experience is very poor. web browser is crap. address bar hides the top portion of page and you cant click a single link situated on top of the web page. No flash 10.1 support. And many more more disadvantages. if i try to write them all the whole page will be filled.
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Thanks for the comment, it really helped me changing my mind lol.

badelemental said:
... there are 13000 apps and games in market but only 10 or 20 usefull applications.13000 figure is achived because a lots of theme are in app store....
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just a clarification ...there aren't 13'000 apps for Bada on the market, there are 13'000 apps on Samsung Apps for any platform (Bada, Android, JavaME, Windows Mobile..), the number of bada apps is nearly less than 3'000 + more than approximately 1'500 themes
(I think this discussion was opened in the wrong section...)

so buying wave II wouldn't be a good idea? problem is the store where i returned my phone are not paying back the money and they want me to buy a phone off their shop and they have no decent android phones (no galaxy ace..) so my only choices are:
-Wave II
-Xperia X10 mini
-sony ericsson vivaz u5i
-LG optimus one
and the phone with the best hardware is wave II...so idk what to buy

@guari: thanx for correcting me! i realised my mistake but could not correct it due to some problems in my net connection.

shad0wboss said:
so buying wave II wouldn't be a good idea? problem is the store where i returned my phone are not paying back the money and they want me to buy a phone off their shop and they have no decent android phones (no galaxy ace..) so my only choices are:
-Wave II
-Xperia X10 mini
-sony ericsson vivaz u5i
-LG optimus one
and the phone with the best hardware is wave II...so idk what to buy
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better search on www.gsmarena.com to know specs of every phone on your list. compare every ones spec before buying.

shad0wboss said:
so buying wave II wouldn't be a good idea? problem is the store where i returned my phone are not paying back the money and they want me to buy a phone off their shop and they have no decent android phones (no galaxy ace..) so my only choices are:
-Wave II
-Xperia X10 mini
-sony ericsson vivaz u5i
-LG optimus one
and the phone with the best hardware is wave II...so idk what to buy
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ehh is difficult to choose between those four, but all have the same price? in this case probably the waveII would be the best choice...2th the optimus one, is a good device with froyo, but it has a lower-end hardware, regardless of the operating system, you'll feel the difference with the wave (small, low quality and low resolution display, worst camera, especially for video, really poor gpu, no front camera for videocall...)
You said you'll use it for gaming and skype, if you don't want it now (especially skype will be availabe in future), waveII it's good for you

Bada is new so it has disadvantages but to say that it sucks...No.
For what can you use your phone? To make a call? that works...
To write a message on a forum? that works also...
To use as gps? that works... (bought a life time license for route66)
To play a game while I'm on the toilet? that works also...
regards
btw bada 2.0 is coming

Well to be honest, if the person refuses to refund. The only choice i have is to buy Wave II. Tobe honest, i love playing games on smartphones so these are the things why i would like to buy a smartphone.
-Gaming high end...
-Youtube (good quality video)
Skype is just an addition since wave II got front facing camera but i guess there'll be one in the future. I also got interested in buying Wave II when i heard that android was being ported to the phone and of course there are heck loads of things to do on android rather then Bada in terms of gaming...but i don't want to buy an android phone with low end hardware only because it's android...

shad0wboss said:
Well to be honest, if the person refuses to refund. The only choice i have is to buy Wave II. Tobe honest, i love playing games on smartphones so these are the things why i would like to buy a smartphone.
-Gaming high end...
-Youtube (good quality video)
Skype is just an addition since wave II got front facing camera but i guess there'll be one in the future. I also got interested in buying Wave II when i heard that android was being ported to the phone and of course there are heck loads of things to do on android rather then Bada in terms of gaming...but i don't want to buy an android phone with low end hardware only because it's android...
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Keep in mind that there are still not so much good games for Bada.
Also not all youtube clips play on bada.
And still I like my phone.

z|-|ero said:
Keep in mind that there are still not so much good games for Bada.
Also not all youtube clips play on bada.
And still I like my phone.
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You wouldn't have said that if you would've owned a Samsung galaxy S but surprisingly it's way too expensive compared to Wave II.
What do you mean by "Also not all youtube clips play on bada."

There is no true application for youtube in bada like for android.
It's a link on browser.
Not the same application for Facebook too.
But there is a very good application for Dailymotion.
I have both galaxy and samsung s8500, I use daily the galaxy S because of size screen and facebook application.
But I love my bada phone, very simple to use, good battery life, excellent photo and camera recorder.
You will only be disappointed if you love installing a ton of applications on your phone... If you have a normal utilization (phone, internet, sms, photo, video) wave II is a very good phone very stable. And Bada 2.0 is coming

how knows when bada 2.0 would be comming...and the bad news about bada is that it's not like android where everyone can develop their own apps/games and upload it on the market...i have no idea which set to buy now...

shad0wboss said:
...and the bad news about bada is that it's not like android where everyone can develop their own apps/games and upload it on the market...
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and why not? sure that anyone can develop apps and upload them to the market ...I did it
yet for few month, certification is also free...

guari said:
and why not? sure that anyone can develop apps and upload them to the market ...I did it
yet for few month, certification is also free...
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let me rephrase, what i meant is, not MANY people as android has, develop apps for bada. OR to make it simple, bada devs are retarded

shad0wboss said:
You wouldn't have said that if you would've owned a Samsung galaxy S but surprisingly it's way too expensive compared to Wave II.
What do you mean by "Also not all youtube clips play on bada."
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He means that youtube videos on desktop version which use flash version more than Flash 9, will not play. But you can get most of the videos on mobile youtube and the quality is awesome on wifi. On 3g, it automatically changes to low quality.

[Advice]Buy wave or not?

My older thread didn't help me much and this might help me more because now, i'm going to buy a phone within this week but i'm thinking of buying Wave, because of it's 1 ghz cortex a8 processor and GPu PowerVR sgx 540 which is proven to be the fastest among single core processors (not including tegra). To be hoenst, PowerVR sgx 540 performs just like tegra 2 GPU and is more or less the same GPU used in iphone 4.
Question is, which one to buy? keeping in mind that android is comming to wave sooner or later, what do you guys say? do you think android would work on wave (dual boot) so that the bada OS is also secured. Now my options are:
-LG optimus one (around 170$)(wifi is b/g only)
-Samsung wave (Around 299$)
-Samsung galaxy ace (349$)
-Samsung galaxy mini (around 179$)
These are the only phones i want to choose from because others are either expensive or useless (not android). I don't think that galaxy ace would be a very good choice despite the fact that it has no flash support (decreases 50% surfing on internet). About wave is that, bada sucks for now as there aren't cool widgets, apps available. About Optimus One, it is cheap, which is a good thing but the pixels are way too low and it runs a 600mhz processor which cannot run at least 50% of the good games without lag.
Now i can only trust you guys to help me as this will allow me to choose my phone and i really want some good suggestions. Thanks a lot in advance

> Bada Software and Hacking General (No noobs here)
> Asking advice about buy a Samsung Wave
nope.avi

Otacon_ahs said:
> Bada Software and Hacking General (No noobs here)
> Asking advice about buy a Samsung Wave
nope.avi
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Sorry i didn't understand what you mean by "nope.avi" and tbh you seem like a noob to me and yet you're making a useless post
It's too bad that there's no Q & A section for bada or i could've made a thread there :/

keeping in mind that android is comming to wave sooner or later
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shad0wboss
If you wish Android on Wave (II) you need to wait... long, loooonger, very loooooooooooooooong.
So the answer is later. Much later.
If you can't wait. Then your first choice should be an Android handset.
And yes, sorry. Its very hard to answer as normally we are in Software&Hacking section of XDA...
And this is your second try and buy Thread.
Best Regards

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shad0wboss
If you wish Android on Wave (II) you need to wait... long, loooonger, very loooooooooooooooong.
So the answer is later. Much later.
If you can't wait. Then your first choice should be an Android handset.
And yes, sorry. Its very hard to answer as normally we are in Software&Hacking section of XDA...
And this is your second try and buy Thread.
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Thanks for your reply, also the project you're working on, does it apply to wave II as well or only for Wave?

Android project is at very very early stadium.
Pre pre Alpha... and oleg_k is the only person who have seen Android on his Wave. NO ONE else.
I have no idea when second person can confirm running Android on Wave.
oleg_k uses additional Hardware called JTAG.
Costs around 200 Euro... see here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=898996
We all have to wait. Maybe weeks, maybe months...
Best Regards

Currently all android ports being worked on are for wave I. So if you are buying waveII, you will have to wait much longer.
Now on your opinion to buy a handset,
1)Do not buy wave in the hope of getting android in it later or sooner. We don't know all the problems we might face after loading android onto our phones. So if you want Android, go for galaxy ace.
2)Bada has a scope of improvement and you can see its progres by taking a look at the app store. Every week some new good games are coming, either ports or original stuff. Now Bada has apps like Fruit Ninja, Plants vs. Zombies, Doodle Jump and many other games which people were longing to see on the samsung app store. Eventually, more apps will arrive. But don't buy Wave if your only interest is apps and widgets. If you can give bada some time, then you can go on to buy the wave.
3)And if you are looking for a rock solid hardware, go for Wave! Wave's hardware can't be matched by any other single core phones for now. The wave in fact has a better gpu than Iphone 4. So Wave is the best bet for your budget. Also the screen quality and Multimedia experience is really amazing. Also its out of the box ability to play almost all of the video formats including Divx HD and Xvid along with subtitles will make you want to buy the Wave. Remember that currently Bada has few problems in properly utilizing the RAM. So you might get memory errors sometimes even though it has more than 512 MB of ram on it. I don't know if the memory issues have been solved on Wave II or not but atleast Wave currently faces this problem.
So now you are left to your choice. My personal recommendation is the Wave! I am saying this after using an Iphone 4(Which got stolen ), an HTC Desire and now my beloved Wave!

My opinion is go with wave because it has wonderful design and no other samsung phones has better design like wave. also bada 2.0 looks more promising..
Maybe we can get android on wave within weeks but it will be pre alpha version and you cant expect all functionalities work and maybe few functionalities will never work.
Multimedia side wave rocks. but if you interested in apps then go for android device..Now your choice

scout for a dual processor

Got Wave II for some days. The biggest problem is lack of apps for bada, which is semi rapidly fixed, samsung is spending alot of cash into its development, so it is getting better month by month (comparing bada 1.0 to 1.2 for eg.).
It has got very powerful CPU and GPU, but haven't seen yet a game that uses more than like 30% of its power, but if you don't mind about games and weird apps like remote sattelite controllers which for sure can be found for Android. If you only want to have smoothly running device with some gadgets - I do recommend it.
astrotom said:
Currently all android ports being worked on are for wave I. So if you are buying waveII, you will have to wait much longer.
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As far as I know Wave II is the same hardware as Wave I, except the LCD display. So port for Wave I = port for Wave II with abit different LCD driver.

Rebellos said:
Got Wave II for some days. The biggest problem is lack of apps for bada, which is semi rapidly fixed, samsung is spending alot of cash into its development, so it is getting better month by month (comparing bada 1.0 to 1.2 for eg.).
It has got very powerful CPU and GPU, but haven't seen yet a game that uses more than like 30% of its power, but if you don't mind about games and weird apps like remote sattelite controllers which for sure can be found for Android. If you only want to have smoothly running device with some gadgets - I do recommend it.
As far as I know Wave II is the same hardware as Wave I, except the LCD display. So port for Wave I = port for Wave II with abit different LCD driver.
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The hardware might seem equal from outside but there are many internal differences. The main feature still remain the same. If wave II = wave I, then 1.2 update would be available to wave I users as soon as wave II was released. But that is not the case. Wave II use different boot loaders and firmware files. So please read through the forum before to get more info.

port WP7 on wave is it possible?

why we want to port WP7 on wave?
1. at this moment all wp7 phones use same CPU (QSD 8250) and it's GPU was "Adreno 200" --- (SGX543MP2(iPad2) > SGX 543 = Adreno 220 > SGX540 (@300MHz) > Geforce ULP [Tegra2] > SGX 540 (@200MHz) = Mali -400 >> Adreno 205 > SGX 535 >> Adreno 200 = SGX 530.)
2. Our wave have the SGX540 GPU,if wp7 port on wave i think it'll more fast than Adreno 200
3. i hear some news ,microsoft will Release a tool it can port almost all android APP to WP7 so in the Future WP7 will be the NO1
4. wp7 more fast than android
I known it's very hard to do ,it just my opinion if it's wrong please forgive me
sorry for my bad english

3 or 4 users work on Android port, without full function... so NOT successfully finished. Since months.
If you have free time, please start with your project to port WP7...
We all count on you.
Good Luck

Its very hard to port the WP7 to wave because WP7 used only qualcomm processer so far but wave using hummingbird processer..porting android is somewhat easier than WP7 because galaxy s and wave almost share the same hardware..also i dont think you can achieve solid performance in wave with other os..

yes winphone 7 has 18 points at the html5 test, even bada 1.2 has 187 very inteligent. a system that can nothing even playing divx to port it on a device that has a system that can more. you should by a phone7 device, than we all are happy.

Of course, bada is a good system

I think that we don't obtain a significative advance in porting Windows Phone 7 to our waves, because Win7 doesn't have much more apps and it is not as extended as Android. You can try with MeeGo or Maemo but the result will be the same: not a really benefit.
The only OSs which are really interesting are iOS (extremely difficult to port) and Android (which oleg_k and the other devs are working at).

yes android is the best os to port, and maybe ios, would also be possible the wave and iphone are nearly the same in things of hardware.

Porting ANY closed-source operating system is next to impossible. The effort required for such a task is way out of scale and would require dozens of high class experts doing disassembly and binary patching, custom drivers, etc.
Phones hardware platforms are based on dedicated PCB layouts and even having same components in different phones gives no guarantee they are connected same way, to same processor PINs, not mentioning that same processor types come in different packaging. When the phone is not based on the very SAME board as 'donor' device, you can simply forget about putting closed-source OS there.

what about mango, tango, apollo?

what about mango, tango, apollo?
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Yes, very easy task. Also Zumba, Pumba and Dumba possible.
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adfree said:
Yes, very easy task. Also Zumba, Pumba and Dumba possible.
Best Regards
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I think the only possible OS besides Android is maybe HP's WebOS. Even if it's half losed source, it's built on top of linux just as Android and the root image is accessible (I already downloaded it ). But even this would be a risky project, as the kernel is not the same version (WebOS 2.2.1 is built on 2.6.29 if I remember well) and the video driver and phone part is totally different...

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Yes, very easy task. Also Zumba, Pumba and Dumba possible.
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LOL!!! i didnt ask if its possible or not. but they said porting wp7 is not interesting .
maybe pumba possible? )

adfree said:
Yes, very easy task. Also Zumba, Pumba and Dumba possible.
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what about Mumba, Sumba and Kumba ??

ispanecaaaa said:
what about Mumba, Sumba and Kumba ??
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And there we go... Now microsoft have to choose new names for windows 7.2, 7.3 and 7.4 :-/ ;-p

duxxyuk said:
And there we go... Now microsoft have to choose new names for windows 7.2, 7.3 and 7.4 :-/ ;-p
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Pumba would be great

LOL... DUMBa is a great name for the next microsoft release
i can´t see any advantage is porting wp7 to wave
in fact the only advantages i see in porting android is because of the zillion apps available and the fact its an open OS
if i could have all those apps (or even half..) for bada, i would keep bada
i tried some android phones and some wm7 phones and i feel them slower than my wave 8500
the only 1 that feels as speedy as the wave is the iphone 4

ispanecaaaa said:
what about Mumba, Sumba and Kumba ??
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lol

yes i found some opensource apps, maybe some of them can be ported easy, the games should be easier cause they all using opengl, thank god that the opensource community exists.

my brother has a wp7 phone and i love it. i search through the market and it has lot of interesting games and apps(wp7 was released after bada). imo its much better than bada.

73nokian said:
my brother has a wp7 phone and i love it. i search through the market and it has lot of interesting games and apps(wp7 was released after bada). imo its much better than bada.
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So sell bada phone and buy something with WP. Nobody keep you here

Bada 2.0 for low-end devices

Look what i have found after starting the store, i have made a master reset to look at it, yesterday i have seen it but was not sure if it is true, it seems realy that they are developing bada 2.0 demo apps on the wave 525 read the text bellow, i cannot say yet it will come but it seems so.
sometimes i dont believe myself, thats why i had tried it again.

Well, possibly there is just a possibility to run middle-class apps at Wave/Wave II

What do you mean?
Spider Man with 500 MB is a middle range game?
All bada 1.2 will be supported as stock. No magic behind.

larioteo said:
Spider Man with 500 MB is a middle range game?
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But it's tested on low-end device as you see in messagebox

hmm
developed on xxx binary and didn't passed qa-test,
have you developed an app? GPS Status wifi discover need maybe 1 mb of memory, why they should be developed on high end devices?
there are only 15 apps or so for testing demo apps, no real one, it is a demo store, also wac 2.0 apps that are only on bada 2.0 available, this topic here should show that bada comes on low end devices.
and an image that is autoscalled from such a small resulution doesnt look good, rather the devs will use the other way scalling down from an higher this looks also good as the other way, but bada 2.0 offers the same api for every device, i dont see disadvantages in supporting every device.

it will be for low end devices becouse its compatible with emulator

oh lariateo if i have 525 with bada 2.0 will it support middle range games? i mean fruit ninjja or angry birds becouse the low end devices android (galaxy mini) supports...

all games without opengl usage, i dont know what games uses it and what not sorry. and i am also not sure about, it is standing so in store, but there dont stands anything about bada 2.0, only the wac applications 2.0 could be an indicate that there are version for lowend devices. cause wac exists since 2.0 on bada.

larioteo said:
What do you mean?
Spider Man with 500 MB is a middle range game?
All bada 1.2 will be supported as stock. No magic behind.
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Well, I mean that apps developed for the middle class badaphones could be run on high-end class phones with bada 2.0.

but what is wac 2.0?

gamemaster98
http://www.wacapps.net/web/portal

we will have 3x2 images per page? or 4?