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Microsoft Windows Mobile Games far behind IPhone ?

Why cant we get any nice games für our Windows Mobile based phone like you get for the apple iphone?
Is Microsoft sleeping?

So far Ive got Need For Speed.
I want Spore but can't find it anywhere. Just an american site "Handango" but it dosn't wanna work when I try to pay via paypal

The basic market for this for iPhone users is way higher. The iPhone has a lot more kids (I'm not bashing, just don't know how to say it otherwise) and people who are generally more interested in games. The low costs for developers and low prices of the appstore attract people aswell cause it's so easy to download and play a game. It's a scene which is ideal to most gaming-companies. Graphic capabilities do not differ so much though, but there just isn't a market for it at our windows mobile camp.

deem --- If only we could have iphone os on our Touch HD!!!! -- then we could play most of the games which iphone users can!!!!
BTW-- HTC make devices for work, but the devices are even more than cappable for play and multimedia!!! Im 15years old and I have Touch HD just cuz it is a very powerfull device with great multimedia capabilities!!!!

Kristaps-K9-Lv said:
deem --- If only we could have iphone os on our Touch HD!!!! -- then we could play most of the games which iphone users can!!!!
BTW-- HTC make devices for work, but the devices are even more than cappable for play and multimedia!!! Im 15years old and I have Touch HD just cuz it is a very powerfull device with great multimedia capabilities!!!!
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Not gonna happen though.
HTC is starting to focus on the multimedia side and user friendlyness as you can see, starting in a proper fashion since the diamond. In my opinion the HD has far greater multimedia capabilities then the iPhone (which it has, from codecs to viewing/sound pleasure) but it just isn't a plug and play device and you will often need 3rd party apps, which a lot of users don't understand/have any willingness to do so. But with the help of sites like XDA and software developers you can have an extremely suitable multimedia device.

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with the help of sites like XDA and software developers you can have an extremely suitable multimedia device.
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agree with that-- from xda I have found-- correct video codecs and converters, nice picts, great games (like xtrakt ), mods, finger friendly stuff!!!!!!
So bassicaly --> No xda = Iphone sells go up 200% ----- with xda = Iphone sells keep droping and people keep loving Windows Mobile!!!!!

iPhone users care more about pointless things like games, or at least the majority of them do.
I wouldn't mind having some really top notch games and some of those fun but ultimately useless apps for WM, but I can definitely live without them.

Question about Android games & apps

Am I the only one that thinks the games & apps for the HTC desire sucks - compared to iPhone stuff? Or am I missing out on something?

buy an iphone then. android is not for average joe

you're posting in the wrong forum.
but in answer to your question, yes, you probably are.

Games could be better but Galaxy S has a better gpu then Desire so once more phones are released like that we will see better games,
Apps are good on Android, we have 54% of all apps which are free compared to Apple who have not as many free ones. Plus more dont mean better.

Could anyone name 3 good games for android

Fifa 10, Asphalt 5, Doodle Jump

Homerun battle 3d, gangstar, raging thunder 2.

soon Angry Birds!!

Khargush said:
Am I the only one that thinks the games & apps for the HTC desire sucks - compared to iPhone stuff? Or am I missing out on something?
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No your not. I'm not gonna deny m8.
I prefer my desire overall.
But Android Market compared to Appstore is Complete Rubbish.
But before anybody starts calling me an apple fanboy.
I think this time next year android market will be far ahead of appstore.

If you compare android market now to what it was a year ago, theres a huge difference in quality of apps and games.
Apple has been on the market longer hence it is more developed. so as mentioned above, give it another year

Tower Raiders is quite worthwhile too.

It's a DEVELOPMENT CHANNEL for **** sake !!! Go moan somewhere else (if only in the "General" chan)

phentex said:
It's a DEVELOPMENT CHANNEL for **** sake !!! Go moan somewhere else (if only in the "General" chan)
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good point. just realised that.

Khargush said:
Am I the only one that thinks the games & apps for the HTC desire sucks - compared to iPhone stuff? Or am I missing out on something?
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Yes it sucks, and doesn't have the friendliest community either looking at some of the comments above.
To put into perspective - I love Android. I support it, I use it, I have used it for over 8 months and don't see myself switching to anything else.
However, in terms of apps - well look at the quality of the iPhone apps, they look so slick and intuitive it's unbelievable. In comparison the apps made for Android using the default Views look awful. I know there's a few good looking apps, but a "few" isn't most unfortunately.
Games as well, Android does have a fair few good titles such as Asphalt, RoboDefense and so on - but that's only the tip of the iceberg. There is a very long way to go if Android wants to compete in the general consumer market directly against iPhone (whose customers buy the phone mainly for the apps anyway). I read in an article yesterday saying that most of iOS's top apps are actually games. Most of Android's are utility apps and not a single game in it's top 10.
No use saying that Android is just for intelligent people anymore. It was at the time of the G1, and was even upto the start of this year. But now the gameplan has changed, they do want to make it an OS for everyone, not just geeks. Look at the marketing for the Desire, the DroidX, the X10 and so on.
However, the future isn't that dark - there should be LOADS more games coming with as new avenues for developers to actually make decent games open up:
- Flash
- AIR
- Unity Engine
- OpenFeint
- Google own aquisitions of small game-making companies such as LabPixies
- probably other stuff I've not come across
All this stuff, along with stats showing a lot of devs switching over to Android means that that we could see a massive increase in quality games in the upcoming months.

Android market suffers becuase of lack of a2sd support for most of the phones/users...
Developers are probably trying to use as little of phone's internal memory as possible, and that's why the same apps look cheaper on android comparing to iphone.
Google really f*cked up with apps installation

djoni1980 said:
Android market suffers becuase of lack of a2sd support for most of the phones/users...
Developers are probably trying to use as little of phone's internal memory as possible, and that's why the same apps look cheaper on android comparing to iphone.
Google really f*cked up with apps installation
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Totally agree that this is one of the main problems !

elburna said:
Totally agree that this is one of the main problems !
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totally agree, the desire is pretty much twice as powerful as the 3gs it just doesnt have anywhere to put the data for big games etc, thats what froyo should fix.
i think the android market has come on in leaps and bounds, it reminds me of my palm days when you could pretty much find an app to do anything you wanted for free. the only downside of that is that to a certain extent, the volume of free apps acts as a disincentive to professional developers as it may give them the impression that it will be harder to monetise their products, of course some devs may be attracted to the vibrant community that is android rather than the staid walled garden that iphone apps seems to be.
in conclusion, froyo for everyone, either that or root for all and apps2sd. maybe its time that devs developed larger programs specifically for the root market. hmmmmm

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Could anyone name 3 good games for android
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Robo Defense, AndTangle, Andoku, Air Control, Cestos, Othello, Gameboid (generally with Pokemon for me but others available), Word Search.
Those are all the ones I play regularly

[Advice]Buy wave or not?

My older thread didn't help me much and this might help me more because now, i'm going to buy a phone within this week but i'm thinking of buying Wave, because of it's 1 ghz cortex a8 processor and GPu PowerVR sgx 540 which is proven to be the fastest among single core processors (not including tegra). To be hoenst, PowerVR sgx 540 performs just like tegra 2 GPU and is more or less the same GPU used in iphone 4.
Question is, which one to buy? keeping in mind that android is comming to wave sooner or later, what do you guys say? do you think android would work on wave (dual boot) so that the bada OS is also secured. Now my options are:
-LG optimus one (around 170$)(wifi is b/g only)
-Samsung wave (Around 299$)
-Samsung galaxy ace (349$)
-Samsung galaxy mini (around 179$)
These are the only phones i want to choose from because others are either expensive or useless (not android). I don't think that galaxy ace would be a very good choice despite the fact that it has no flash support (decreases 50% surfing on internet). About wave is that, bada sucks for now as there aren't cool widgets, apps available. About Optimus One, it is cheap, which is a good thing but the pixels are way too low and it runs a 600mhz processor which cannot run at least 50% of the good games without lag.
Now i can only trust you guys to help me as this will allow me to choose my phone and i really want some good suggestions. Thanks a lot in advance

> Bada Software and Hacking General (No noobs here)
> Asking advice about buy a Samsung Wave
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Otacon_ahs said:
> Bada Software and Hacking General (No noobs here)
> Asking advice about buy a Samsung Wave
nope.avi
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Sorry i didn't understand what you mean by "nope.avi" and tbh you seem like a noob to me and yet you're making a useless post
It's too bad that there's no Q & A section for bada or i could've made a thread there :/

keeping in mind that android is comming to wave sooner or later
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shad0wboss
If you wish Android on Wave (II) you need to wait... long, loooonger, very loooooooooooooooong.
So the answer is later. Much later.
If you can't wait. Then your first choice should be an Android handset.
And yes, sorry. Its very hard to answer as normally we are in Software&Hacking section of XDA...
And this is your second try and buy Thread.
Best Regards

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shad0wboss
If you wish Android on Wave (II) you need to wait... long, loooonger, very loooooooooooooooong.
So the answer is later. Much later.
If you can't wait. Then your first choice should be an Android handset.
And yes, sorry. Its very hard to answer as normally we are in Software&Hacking section of XDA...
And this is your second try and buy Thread.
Best Regards
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Thanks for your reply, also the project you're working on, does it apply to wave II as well or only for Wave?

Android project is at very very early stadium.
Pre pre Alpha... and oleg_k is the only person who have seen Android on his Wave. NO ONE else.
I have no idea when second person can confirm running Android on Wave.
oleg_k uses additional Hardware called JTAG.
Costs around 200 Euro... see here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=898996
We all have to wait. Maybe weeks, maybe months...
Best Regards

Currently all android ports being worked on are for wave I. So if you are buying waveII, you will have to wait much longer.
Now on your opinion to buy a handset,
1)Do not buy wave in the hope of getting android in it later or sooner. We don't know all the problems we might face after loading android onto our phones. So if you want Android, go for galaxy ace.
2)Bada has a scope of improvement and you can see its progres by taking a look at the app store. Every week some new good games are coming, either ports or original stuff. Now Bada has apps like Fruit Ninja, Plants vs. Zombies, Doodle Jump and many other games which people were longing to see on the samsung app store. Eventually, more apps will arrive. But don't buy Wave if your only interest is apps and widgets. If you can give bada some time, then you can go on to buy the wave.
3)And if you are looking for a rock solid hardware, go for Wave! Wave's hardware can't be matched by any other single core phones for now. The wave in fact has a better gpu than Iphone 4. So Wave is the best bet for your budget. Also the screen quality and Multimedia experience is really amazing. Also its out of the box ability to play almost all of the video formats including Divx HD and Xvid along with subtitles will make you want to buy the Wave. Remember that currently Bada has few problems in properly utilizing the RAM. So you might get memory errors sometimes even though it has more than 512 MB of ram on it. I don't know if the memory issues have been solved on Wave II or not but atleast Wave currently faces this problem.
So now you are left to your choice. My personal recommendation is the Wave! I am saying this after using an Iphone 4(Which got stolen ), an HTC Desire and now my beloved Wave!

My opinion is go with wave because it has wonderful design and no other samsung phones has better design like wave. also bada 2.0 looks more promising..
Maybe we can get android on wave within weeks but it will be pre alpha version and you cant expect all functionalities work and maybe few functionalities will never work.
Multimedia side wave rocks. but if you interested in apps then go for android device..Now your choice

scout for a dual processor

Got Wave II for some days. The biggest problem is lack of apps for bada, which is semi rapidly fixed, samsung is spending alot of cash into its development, so it is getting better month by month (comparing bada 1.0 to 1.2 for eg.).
It has got very powerful CPU and GPU, but haven't seen yet a game that uses more than like 30% of its power, but if you don't mind about games and weird apps like remote sattelite controllers which for sure can be found for Android. If you only want to have smoothly running device with some gadgets - I do recommend it.
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Currently all android ports being worked on are for wave I. So if you are buying waveII, you will have to wait much longer.
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As far as I know Wave II is the same hardware as Wave I, except the LCD display. So port for Wave I = port for Wave II with abit different LCD driver.

Rebellos said:
Got Wave II for some days. The biggest problem is lack of apps for bada, which is semi rapidly fixed, samsung is spending alot of cash into its development, so it is getting better month by month (comparing bada 1.0 to 1.2 for eg.).
It has got very powerful CPU and GPU, but haven't seen yet a game that uses more than like 30% of its power, but if you don't mind about games and weird apps like remote sattelite controllers which for sure can be found for Android. If you only want to have smoothly running device with some gadgets - I do recommend it.
As far as I know Wave II is the same hardware as Wave I, except the LCD display. So port for Wave I = port for Wave II with abit different LCD driver.
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The hardware might seem equal from outside but there are many internal differences. The main feature still remain the same. If wave II = wave I, then 1.2 update would be available to wave I users as soon as wave II was released. But that is not the case. Wave II use different boot loaders and firmware files. So please read through the forum before to get more info.

[Q] any good?

is this phone any good? how does it fare up against the iphone 4?

Android can do everything the iPhone 4 can't do, and the Xperia play has a larger screen, Gamepad, and what not?

thanks but i would prefer a more in-depth answer as to why and also if its a good phone or not (and why). thanks

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i would prefer a more in-depth answer as to why and also if its a good phone or not (and why). thanks
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Well I have a video review,
...a "How is it after 2 months?" session to see if it's quality stays consistent,
...as well as a COMPLETE written review.
http://verytechnical.wordpress.com/2011/11/19/sony-ericsson-xperia-play-4g-review/
That in-depth enough for ya?
EDIT: Long story short, you can find a handheld gaming system that handles tactile, portable gaming nicely, but they always fall short for... pretty much all of those non-game functions users over 14 need. You can find a lot of smartphones that handle all those necessities, but the touch controls are horrid, and every other physical controller option violates the "fearsome foursome" of external controller flaws; including that none of them aside from the Xperia PLAY have a lot of compatible games - SixAxis, ZeeMote, iControlPad, Gametel, BGP100...
...all of them fall flat on their ass when you start looking for something more than old emulated stuff. Xperia PLAY kicks ass as an emulator, but it's the only truly versatile smartphone with physical controls with the matching support of over 200 non-emulated games. There's no other device on the market that can hold the claim that well.
This is all from someone who came from 4th Gen idevices BTW. In comparison, its beat iOS at everything from media to games

Okay hardware wise they're almost the same.
1ghz CPU
512mb ram
5mp camera.
Adreno205 gpu to the sgx535
Apps will run similarly.
Okay better with iPhone :
The gorgeous hi res retina screen.
The app store
Smooth ui
Availability of apps.
Music, even though people might say otherwise.
Internal space.
Gyroscope
Better with xplay:
4 inch screen.
The ps controls
The exclusive apps
The Dlna
The PRICE
Audio feedback (xloud)
Image quality (with bravia engine )
The modding possibilities
WiFi hotspot (tethering)
A good forum
Price of apps.
Upgradeable memory (up to god knows how much with sdxc) lets say 64
Common peripherals ,ie Micro USB. So they're cheap if you misplace your charger etc.
Upcoming ics upgrade .
Upcoming PlayStation suite .
Current ps1 games .
Emulator possibilities.
Both are very good devices but unless if you were like me, a gamer, go for the iPhone .
The bads:
IPhone :
Heavily overpriced.
Not very revolutionary .
Overhyped apple product.(internals are the same as 3gs )
Relatively heavy.
Overshadowed by 4s .(last year's product)
Xplay:
Depreciation (not if you bought for like a £100)
Android ui (sorry guys spoilt by windows phone xD)
Weight 169 grams (if you're not a gamer you don't need this weight)
Lacklustre( maybe a bit overhyped too - so far but the upcoming months look really good imho)
But I still love my xplay, as I loved my omnia 7. May I recommend the ray if youre not into gaming and would like a good device .
My gf has a 4s and honestly, if you're gonna buy a new iPhone 4 save a bit more and buy the 4s instead .
Hope that helped.
Cheers
from tapatalk on xperia play.

Since buying an Xperia PLAY a couple of months ago, my old iPhone 4 hasn't seen the light of day and has been hiding in my draw since.
When I hold and use my PLAY, I know I'm holding a phone that was made especially for me. It's got:
- A nicely sized screen.
- Probably the best pair of speakers I've ever seen on a phone.
- Good battery life if treated well.
- That "WOW!" factor.
- 720p recording now.
- Great emulation performance.
- Can play pretty much all PS1 games using the likes of psxperia, FPSE and psx4droid.
- A large number of exclusive games.
- Is moddable and is a dream to run after rooting device.
I won't be buying another phone from here on unless it's a Sony gaming device running on Android.
I just love it when family come over in the holidays rocking up with their iPhone 4 and 4S thinking they have the best phone on the market. While they're talking to Siri asking for the weather, I'm having good fun playing Crash Bash with psxperia with a real game pad and at full speed.

KindaUndisputed said:
is this phone any good? how does it fare up against the iphone 4?
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The iPhone whether 4 or 3 or 6 is garbage , CNET and other hi-tech media mention it , IOS is the less customizable less user friendly .... I could go on. Best to actually compare it to a droid razr or galaxy s2 than any iPhone lol.
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amansth said:
Android ui (sorry guys spoilt by windows phone xD)
But I still love my xplay, as I loved my omnia 7.
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Have you tried out Launcher7 on the XPlay... Gives you that WP7 look and feel (at least for the launcher)... Ubermusic gives you a zune-style music player...
The biggest draw of any Android device over any of the other major platforms is customization. If you put the time and energy into it you can make Android do anything you want it to.

Plus this phone can take a bit of a drop and still be good the i phone will just shatter
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Weudel said:
Have you tried out Launcher7 on the XPlay... Gives you that WP7 look and feel (at least for the launcher)... Ubermusic gives you a zune-style music player...
The biggest draw of any Android device over any of the other major platforms is customization. If you put the time and energy into it you can make Android do anything you want it to.
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Yeah but launcher 7 isn't as smooth. Nothing is as smooth as windows phone. 7 no offense
from tapatalk on xperia play.

Hmm. Stock launcher on r800i I.e mine is as smooth if not smoother , I used to be a WM5 , 6, 6.5 addict. Including 7 , but ... No WM7's launcher or WP7 ISN'T the king.
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thanks for all the help guys! i would like a good phone but also be able to play games as well (maybe not extensively but i imagine i would use the pad a lot) would you say this is the phone for me or should i get another phone but stick to touchscreen controls? reviews are quite varied, some say its great and others say thats its great only for gaming? could anyone clarify briefly please?
*at the time of posting i have not watched nor read the reviews posted by "TLRtheory" so please excuse me if this was mentioned in one of them*

I recently got an iphone to try since i hear these things organize peoples lives,then got sick of it after i jailbroke it, being on android all these years i felt it was inconvenient just to make ringtones,text tones and with its limited format, then i found out im stuck with that square front page so i gave it to my brother.
then i brought a play, i played it for a few days then placed a listing online to sell it, then pulled out a few days after because i would waste more money getting something better like a Samsung s2
this phone is great it gets used alot more than any cellphone i had, while im waiting around or in public i can just burn some time and play.
At first it wasn't a great phone but then got root uninstaller to disable alot of the services i dont need.
the controls really make this phone worth it, i had sold my psp and missed all those old games, touchscreen controls never went far for me, i couldn't imagine clocking castlevania or many nes roms with it.

There is only one thing this phone can do better than any other: playing games. If you don't see yourself doing that often, you're better off with other options. Buying a Xperia Play is like crossing the Rubicon, as it makes a statement about yourself.

It depends, men are from android and women are from ios.

Well I will be playing games often but I just want to know if it is a good overall PHONE regardless of gaming. I currently have the ZTE blade so maybe that will tell you something..
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As an overall phone, it's just as good as a Samsung Galaxy S, HTC Desire S or any mid high end Android device: very fluid movement of the UI, so-so camera... It will be a fairly substantial improvement from the Blade, though that's a fantastic device btw. As a phone, it's bulky, but it has a remarkably good external speaker for music, packs a decent battery and the screen has a nice resolution (higher dpi than the blade).

I came from the Blade and find the Play super. Only cost me €7 more then the Blade too. Its a great phone if you can get it cheap.
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As an overall phone, it's just as good as a Samsung Galaxy S, HTC Desire S or any mid high end Android device: very fluid movement of the UI, so-so camera... It will be a fairly substantial improvement from the Blade, though that's a fantastic device btw. As a phone, it's bulky, but it has a remarkably good external speaker for music, packs a decent battery and the screen has a nice resolution (higher dpi than the blade).
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Agree with all that, but the DPI is actually lower. Not noticable mind

So is it significantly better than the blade?
I appreciate the answers by the way
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And what is better about it ?
and what sets it apart from basically being a psp, basically how would you convince someone that it's more than just a psp?
Thanks in advance
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[Q] Xperia play vs iPhone 4s help

Hi guys I have a iPhone 4s and the girlfriend has just bought a Xperia play but she not keen and she wants to swap I just don't know what to do I mean is the iPhone a far superia powerful phone over the play I love gameing is the play better graphic wise over the iPhone am I just best keeping iPhone and getting a psp vita she has put me in a predicament ha ha just things like full hd playback the play carnt do that and help guys

Just....stick with your Play kid. The 4S isn't that great anyway.

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Just....stick with your Play kid. The 4S isn't that great anyway.
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Lol no I have the iPhone 4s the girlfriend wants to swap for her play

brockyneo said:
Lol no I have the iPhone 4s the girlfriend wants to swap for her play
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My brother-in-law owns an iPhone4S, and I wouldent trade phones to save my life
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My brother-in-law owns an iPhone4S, and I wouldent trade phones to save my life
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Lol I'm tempted but the screen on the iPhone Is by far nicer but love gameing is the gpu in the play just as good as the iPhone 4s

Keep the iPhone. Best phone out there to date.
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Keep the iPhone. Best phone out there to date.
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I whole-heartedly disagree. Hardware-wise, the iPhone 4s may have some better specs, but Android, itself, is a much better operating system. It's much more free and tweak-able, not to mention the fact that Google doesn't hide hardware features in order to make a special breaking news update, like Apple does.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not an enemy of Apple. I just think Android is better. Oh, and the gamepad on the Xperia Play makes all the difference in the world, for me. No need to bother with on-screen controls with all of my emulators and XP optimized games, and no need to use bluetooth to hook up a separate controller.

lol - the mindclashing question in the room again
love to read those over and over...
Really funny u even try to compare - since u not just took an ordinary phone but the play as comparison - wich not just is a different OS, differnet hardware (minor), different apps, BUT ALSO HAS THIS LITETLE HARDWARE EXTENSION
To make it short:
Hardware: iPhone better - you will always find something better - the play is 1 year old now...
OS: iOS still more fluid - but idc
Apps: just check the Android Market if u find your favourite ones
Price: 650€ vs 250€ (ok the apple cr*p is always overpriced)
If u love to read numbers for making a choice the above clearly tells you to go the the iPhone
Out of the box experience & paying for each litte peace of software = iPhone
Tweaking, Gaming wiht Hardwarekeys, Emulators, customize your phone,... = Play
But none ever can give you the answer to the better of those - its just a matter of PREFERENCE
And YOU CAN'T compare those. Its like the apple and pear thing- One is round the other missformed - and they taste DIFFERENT.
If you still try - join the enduring war between Pro-Apple and Con-Apple freaks - started ages back with MS and Apple....
Oh and I nearly fogot: u really speak of graphics at phones? (funny joke imho)
But if u really care for that -> get the vita
Nor the iPhone neither the PLay will ever have GREAT QUALITLY graphics.... (if u take the same game for both the graphics are even nearly equal)
You really should reconsider the reasons wasting your money - ehm of buying a phone
EDIT: did it ever came to your mind to take your girlies phone and just play around with it? It would really shown you the difference in seconds
Wow why do I waste my time to answer to those threads... MUHAHAHAHAHAHA
sry for the sarcasm

Xperia Play is only great if you want a gamepad on your phone.
Games tend to get released on iOS first and there is more hardware accessories for the iPhone market.
However, with the Play you also get Android.
It'll also depend how far you are in Apple's ecosystem.

Lol thanks for all your answers and yes I've had a play round with it and yes very nice phone but prob will stick with the iPhone I use to have a Samsung galaxy note which is bricked and in for repair so I'm use to android and a big screen so liked the look of play for both the bigger screen and android but the iPhone is differnent so suppose I was asking what is best graphic wise for gameing and what is the best around phone to have in the long run
Also I've ordered a psp vita so is it worth me swapping my iPhone for play now lol thanks again guys

brockyneo said:
Lol thanks for all your answers and yes I've had a play round with it and yes very nice phone but prob will stick with the iPhone I use to have a Samsung galaxy note which is bricked and in for repair so I'm use to android and a big screen so liked the look of play for both the bigger screen and android but the iPhone is differnent so suppose I was asking what is best graphic wise for gameing and what is the best around phone to have in the long run
Also I've ordered a psp vita so is it worth me swapping my iPhone for play now lol thanks again guys
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Best of both worlds, PSVita and an iPhone!

In one year Apple will release a new. Iphone and 4s is going to be old, and forget the resolution, compare the size of the screens and other hardware, I'm very happy with my play, I love apple devices (have imac Iphone 3gs, touch 4g) its your decision.
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i think the play has alot of drawbacks unless ur prepared to root it and change some stuff. out of the box the iphone is faster, has better hardware, can install far more apps...etc etc the list goes on..
in saying that, my play is running at 1.5ghz with the ics beta, it has a 64gb microsd with apps2ext and it has plenty of room for game roms. it has a 3600mah mugen battery which gets it around 3 days battery life average use for a bit of added thickness, the rom is debloated and a joy to use, if an iphone 4s user asked me to swap i'd tell them to jump off a bridge, i freaking love this phone and i hope sony doesnt stuff up the play 2 because i will have alot of trouble moving to another phone down the track.