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I have an MDA C3. When web & walk is transferring internet Data and a call comes in, the phone does not ring. It goes directly to the voicemail.
T-Mobile customer service tell me that this is correct as you can either transfer internet data or make a call.
Is that right? I thought that was with WAP which is analagous to dial-up. Surely GPRS is analagous to Broadband.
Anyone else want to try this:
Go to Web & walk home page. Attempt loading up the guardian page (This will take a while). Whilst this is loading, call your phone number and see if it rings or goes direct to VM.
I spend lots of time browsing so I must be losing lots of calls!
Feedback greatly appreciated.
From what I have heard only UMTS devices can support simultaneous voice/data.
Yes - but not GRPS that uses GSM band instead of UMTS.
However, some devices have troubles keeping the data link active when a call comes in.
I am having the same issue (also on T-Mobile UK).
Then IE is running or AS is downloading my mail (I use direct push) all my calls go straight to voicemail.
This is worrying as I just moved over to T-Mobile for the web n walk package to allow me to have instant e-mails. This is a pain if it means I miss calls whilst my mail is downloading.
You'd think that the chances of the 2 coinciding are slim (I don't get a lot of mail, maybe 10 per day) but the wife has already complained 3 times since Friday that she went straight to voicemail, and each time it was exactly as i got a new mail.
Is this a limit of GPRS, the Orbit or just T-Mobile?
Thanks
Dae
I was surprised too... Thats why I posted the query. I thought my phone and/or SIm were faulty. But T-Mobile tell me thats how its supposed to work.
With W&W and Email, Its really hard for someone to get through with a voice call. It was worrying for me as I tend to browse the net whenever I am waiting around. This means that when I am on the bus surfing, no one can get through to me!!
Surely if there is a limitation, then the phone should give precendence to the Voice call. After all, you can pick up your emails or surfing where you left off.
I would really be interested to see if this is a T-Mobile only problem.
No itschase is spot on.
It's not a t-Mobile problem, it's the same for any GSM based network.
Only 3g (UMTS) phones can do data and voice at the same time. No matter what network you are on.
I have just run an experiment in the office as follows:-
Me (artemis with v3 black and blue) - Voicemail when data active
person 1 (MDA compact III - v3 black and blue) - Voicemail when active
person 2 (hermes) - no Voicemail when active.
We are all on t-mobile UK, and therefore it doesn't look like a network issue, but maybe a ROM problem?
daesimps said:
therefore it doesn't look like a network issue, but maybe a ROM problem?
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What problem? Everything is working as it supposed to. If it's so important to you. Go buy a 3g phone!
I now fully appreciate that 3g phones are the only ones to support this type of behaviour.
I was trying to be helpful and post the results of my test as at that point I didn't realise that only 3g phones worked as such. I was lead to believe this by wikipedia:-
"Class B
Can be connected to GPRS service and GSM service (voice, SMS), but using only one or the other at a given time. During GSM service (voice call or SMS), GPRS service is suspended, and then resumed automatically after the GSM service (voice call or SMS) has concluded. Most GPRS mobile devices are Class B. "
Obviously this is not the case.
Bring on the HTC Kaiser!!!
Gajet said:
What problem? Everything is working as it supposed to. If it's so important to you. Go buy a 3g phone!
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I incorrectly assumed that whilst browsing, if a voice call comes in, the phone would give priority to the call.
If I had known what I know now at the time I signed my 18M contract I would have bought a 3g Phone! Its just annoying that i'm stuck with it for another 12M. T-Mobile push the fact that they have set the internet free... but what they fail to get across to everyday users is that its "AT THE EXPENSE OF THE VOICE CALLS"
Because T-Mobile forced you to buy one of their 2.5g phones rather than one of their 3g phones?
I have no problem receiving phone calls while browsing the internet on the P3300.
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I have no problem receiving phone calls while browsing the internet on the P3300.
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Neither have I to be honest, the issue only arises while you are actively downloading data. However once the website has loaded, you are free to accept calls again whilst still looking at the site in the browser.
Gajet said:
Neither have I to be honest, the issue only arises while you are actively downloading data. However once the website has loaded, you are free to accept calls again whilst still looking at the site in the browser.
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As a test I started downloading a dummy 32MB testfile on my P3300 (from speedtest.bbned.nl) and I called my mobile with another phone.
There was no problem; I received the call while downloading the file.
Maybe it depends on the operator? I am in Holland on T-Mobile
daesimps said:
I now fully appreciate that 3g phones are the only ones to support this type of behaviour.
I was trying to be helpful and post the results of my test as at that point I didn't realise that only 3g phones worked as such. I was lead to believe this by wikipedia:-
"Class B
Can be connected to GPRS service and GSM service (voice, SMS), but using only one or the other at a given time. During GSM service (voice call or SMS), GPRS service is suspended, and then resumed automatically after the GSM service (voice call or SMS) has concluded. Most GPRS mobile devices are Class B. "
Obviously this is not the case.
Bring on the HTC Kaiser!!!
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Hi,
It's not enough to have a class A (2G) device, but also DTM (Dual Transfer Mode/Simple Class A) support has to be active in the specific network, otherwise only 3G device on 3G network will provide Class A (simultaneous voice & data).
In fact, there are quite many models from Nokia during last year that support DTM, but as already mentioned, it's not enough.
FYI,
Zohar
cduijker said:
As a test I started downloading a dummy 32MB testfile on my P3300 (from speedtest.bbned.nl) and I called my mobile with another phone.
There was no problem; I received the call while downloading the file.
Maybe it depends on the operator? I am in Holland on T-Mobile
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Is that an EDGE network ?
I got the Artemis with PV Black&Blue v3 ROM.
I can receive calls while pages are loading in IE.
I think this is a provider problem.
The phone provider has to intercept your GPRS connection and establish the GSM connection. Maybe T-Mobile just rejects calls while a GPRS connection/transfer is active.
A1 intercepts the page download and my call comes in.
When I pick up, the GPRS connection is closed completely. (not just pending)
So receiving calls while surfing is no problem for me with Austrian A1 provider.
Any other experiences?
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Is that an EDGE network ?
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no, just gprs; no edge.
cduijker said:
no, just gprs; no edge.
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...then it's no way you'll get simultaneous voice and data (class a).
Is my Incredible any good abroad (without roaming service)? Can I make/receive calls via Wifi+Google Voice? I believe I can use all the apps that don't depend on verizon network. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Thanks!
If you don't have service from your carrier, you don't have access to data.
After all, the data connection from your phone is to the 777 (data) number.
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Is my Incredible any good abroad (without roaming service)? Can I make/receive calls via 3G+Google Voice? I believe I can use all the apps that don't depend on verizon network. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Thanks!
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If you do not have carrier service, you will not have data service. You can use the phone thru a WiFi connection.
so many half or confusing replies...
Is your Incredible any good abroad? Short answer: yes. Longer answer, how useful will depend on the apps you expect to use and where.
Most apps that require access to data work just fine with a Wi-Fi connection, so will you have access to Wi-Fi? GPS works anywhere (outdoors), but I have no idea if you will have appropriate maps for where you will visit. And of course any apps that don't require a data access will always work.
I travel. I deliberately selected translation apps that store the data locally. Ditto for my PIM - no cloud for me. I have a compass & GPS app that doesn't depend on maps. SMS (texting) service isn't free abroad, but is pretty much carrier independent, and lets me do emergency messaging. From there I carry an international calling card and find a landline phone.
If you are the type that's deep into social networking and yakking - leave the Incredible at home when you leave the U.S.
The easiest way to test this is to turn on airplane mode and then turn on wifi and gps. If what you want works, then it is useful.
If you are going to europe, I don't think they have a CDMA network, I think they are all GSM. So you will probably get NO cell service, even for emergencies.
Of coarse Wi-Fi will work. You can use modded Skype app to make calls over Wi-fi. Google voice you should be able to text over wifi.
3G is part of cell service, and unless the country has CDMA towers, you won't be able to get roaming service at all.
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If you are going to europe, I don't think they have a CDMA network, I think they are all GSM. So you will probably get NO cell service, even for emergencies.
Of coarse Wi-Fi will work. You can use modded Skype app to make calls over Wi-fi. Google voice you should be able to text over wifi.
3G is part of cell service, and unless the country has CDMA towers, you won't be able to get roaming service at all.
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This is correct I was just in italy last week and my phone was just a PDA at that point. Europe is GSM only and no network service. If your going to asia you will have service in some area best way to find areas is go to verizon web site our call CS.
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I have been having alot of network problems on T-Mobile network and after looking all over T-Mobile website I found alot of over people having the same problems with not receiving notifications and email alerts and apparently T-Mobile block the port that notifications come through. Which I can't believe they do this :-( when I spoke to a Tec T-Mobile person they told me that they don't let notifications on pay as u go 3g wth! So if your on pay as u go t mobile and having notification problems this is probably why :-( I have left T-Mobile and gone vodafone its ashame because T-Mobile do unlimited data for internet and emails on pay as u go aswell :-(
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I have international texting plan and I'm going to be traveling overseas. I know if I use wifi calling feature and call back to US it's not going to overcharge me. I called T-Mobile and asked them if same applies to texting but no one seems to know the answer for sure. Would it charge me extra if I have wifi calling enable and I'm texting an international number from overseas, since I've international texting plan?
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Google voice
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was about to say google voice
Yes but google voice only works in U.S. As soon as you cross the border to canada or a different county google voice, hulu and bunch of other stuff doesn't work. Even some of my amazon apps won't work if I am in a different county.
This is just a shot in the dark. I need to update my sim card to use wifi calling, and i cant remember if your phone will allow a call in airplane mode (to turn your radio off) with wifi on. if it does maybe you can test the same for texts.
Upon further review it seems data must be on even for wifi calling....maybe theres an app out there that can help you out
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Yes but google voice only works in U.S. As soon as you cross the border to canada or a different county google voice, hulu and bunch of other stuff doesn't work. Even some of my amazon apps won't work if I am in a different county.
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I've used my GV to text to the US while in Russia and Germany with no issues last year.
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Google voice doesn't work in Canada. I guess my question is if we have wifi calling feature on, the phone is not using its own data but the text msgs is routed thru wifi, so I shouldn't be charged for those text since I have unlimited international texting. Am I correct?
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Google voice doesn't work in Canada. I guess my question is if we have wifi calling feature on, the phone is not using its own data but the text msgs is routed thru wifi, so I shouldn't be charged for those text since I have unlimited international texting. Am I correct?
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I just came back from canada 2 weeks ago and was using google voice perfectly fine. I was using it for calls though, not texts.
I am currently in the Dominican Republic, and google voice works just fine here. I am not able to setup a new account here but as long as the account was made in the U.S. first, then it can be used when going over sees.
there are plenty of alternatives, but to answer the original question, yes, it will charge you extra. Wifi calling does not support sms.
Actually Im in Canada right now and wifi calling works awesome. I have been calling and texting from the airports, coffee shops and hotels using their wifi. As of right now, I checked my account on TMobile.com and there is no additional charges.
If I am correct, after registering on tmobile network, wifi calling routes ur calling thru wifi instead of using a cell tower. During the wifi calling feature enables, ur cell tower is disabled so ur texting should be routed thru wifi also.
Please correct me if I m wrong.
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Actually Im in Canada right now and wifi calling works awesome. I have been calling and texting from the airports, coffee shops and hotels using their wifi. As of right now, I checked my account on TMobile.com and there is no additional charges.
If I am correct, after registering on tmobile network, wifi calling routes ur calling thru wifi instead of using a cell tower. During the wifi calling feature enables, ur cell tower is disabled so ur texting should be routed thru wifi also.
Please correct me if I m wrong.
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That is how it works and sms messages are routed through wifi too but it wouldnt be the first time a carrier found a way to charge for services not rendered, remember att and charging people for using data over wifi. I think you should be able to swing a credit if they do try to charge you. In the future you could use a vpn to your home in the us and use gv or whatever free.
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To be honest tmobile has been very good to me so far. I switched to tmobile from AT&T cuz of their really bad customer service. Google voice works good too but I hate to explain to people why I'm calling/texting from a different number. Aspecially when I travel without informing my boss lol.
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To be honest tmobile has been very good to me so far. I switched to tmobile from AT&T cuz of their really bad customer service. Google voice works good too but I hate to explain to people why I'm calling/texting from a different number. Aspecially when I travel without informing my boss lol.
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Lol @ the secret vacation
Tmo has been good to me too but I dont want to forget what carriers are capable of, dont want to get blindsided.
Yeah explaining to friends about the second number feels weird. Like I have a secret life and a burner phone or something.
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I have tmo and another simple mobile phone that I use for international calling. Some girls I work with already think that I'm a drug dealer cuz I carry 2 phones...I can't imagine how would I explain google voice number to them. They are not very tech savvy and I don't think they would understand how a virtual google voice number would work. Do you guys ever struggle sometimes explaining tech stuff to friends or coworkers?
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I have tmo and another simple mobile phone that I use for international calling. Some girls I work with already think that I'm a drug dealer cuz I carry 2 phones...I can't imagine how would I explain google voice number to them. They are not very tech savvy and I don't think they would understand how a virtual google voice number would work. Do you guys ever struggle sometimes explaining tech stuff to friends or coworkers?
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I just told them dont bother sending mms email the pic to me or google+ messneger which should be the native google voice app. Still wondering why google just doesnt fuse talk ,messenger and voice or at least have google+ voice integration
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Hey guys, I've been trying to figure out how to Add T-Mobile Wifi-Preferred calling VOIP to non tmobile ROM as I just copied/pasted the title lol. My ROM is DN3 by electro-team.com & they already told me they didn't have it. I've found a wifi-preferred.apk on this xda but it was from a pretty old post & it crashes on launch.
Somewhere I read where it calls on code in the tmobile stock ROM's system partition or something like that. I live in a valley at the bottom & I get zero or 1 bar by my window but no service in most of my house. I didn't realize that T-Mobile was the only phone provider that offered true VOIP wifi-preferred calling....I have been with them for 8 years lol. I'd get calls through my internet router's connection even when I was out of cell tower 4G LTE range! Man if I would have known that I would never have flashed a non-Tmobile ROM. Plus to top it off I had a defective microSD card so even though my NANDROID backup said it saved, it was gone on reboot...ugh bad luck.
I just got this ROM set up the way I want it....I'd hate to hafta flash another. Let me know PLEASE if anyone of you smart ladies & gents knows how I can get Tmobiles "wifi-preferred" calling back on my phone.
Thanks guys!
Unless I'm mistaken (but I don't think I am), you can't have native WIFI Calling on non-Tmobile Roms. For that, you will have to flash a stock Rom.
I use this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2564430
You can also use 3rd party apps to make VOIP calls. Google Voice is also a good alternative.
Sorry for the bad news and good luck.
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wifi-preferred not wifi calling
I have a $60.00 a year skype plan & number that works well. But I want to use my "carrier" number. I have google voice & google hangouts but with hangouts dialer it still only calls phone numbers on LTE networks...doesn't work over wifi internet connection, unless ur calling someone by hangouts username. All phone number calls go out through LTE only on google hangouts/voice dialer thing.
I'm talking about "WIFI-Preferred calling" not wifi-calling....they have the terminology all confusing when you google it. There's got to be a way. I know non-stock ROMs that say they have it. I've found 2. I'll look up what they are called.