Is my Incredible any good abroad (without roaming service)? Can I make/receive calls via Wifi+Google Voice? I believe I can use all the apps that don't depend on verizon network. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Thanks!
If you don't have service from your carrier, you don't have access to data.
After all, the data connection from your phone is to the 777 (data) number.
chuckcho said:
Is my Incredible any good abroad (without roaming service)? Can I make/receive calls via 3G+Google Voice? I believe I can use all the apps that don't depend on verizon network. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Thanks!
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If you do not have carrier service, you will not have data service. You can use the phone thru a WiFi connection.
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Is your Incredible any good abroad? Short answer: yes. Longer answer, how useful will depend on the apps you expect to use and where.
Most apps that require access to data work just fine with a Wi-Fi connection, so will you have access to Wi-Fi? GPS works anywhere (outdoors), but I have no idea if you will have appropriate maps for where you will visit. And of course any apps that don't require a data access will always work.
I travel. I deliberately selected translation apps that store the data locally. Ditto for my PIM - no cloud for me. I have a compass & GPS app that doesn't depend on maps. SMS (texting) service isn't free abroad, but is pretty much carrier independent, and lets me do emergency messaging. From there I carry an international calling card and find a landline phone.
If you are the type that's deep into social networking and yakking - leave the Incredible at home when you leave the U.S.
The easiest way to test this is to turn on airplane mode and then turn on wifi and gps. If what you want works, then it is useful.
If you are going to europe, I don't think they have a CDMA network, I think they are all GSM. So you will probably get NO cell service, even for emergencies.
Of coarse Wi-Fi will work. You can use modded Skype app to make calls over Wi-fi. Google voice you should be able to text over wifi.
3G is part of cell service, and unless the country has CDMA towers, you won't be able to get roaming service at all.
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If you are going to europe, I don't think they have a CDMA network, I think they are all GSM. So you will probably get NO cell service, even for emergencies.
Of coarse Wi-Fi will work. You can use modded Skype app to make calls over Wi-fi. Google voice you should be able to text over wifi.
3G is part of cell service, and unless the country has CDMA towers, you won't be able to get roaming service at all.
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This is correct I was just in italy last week and my phone was just a PDA at that point. Europe is GSM only and no network service. If your going to asia you will have service in some area best way to find areas is go to verizon web site our call CS.
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I have an MDA C3. When web & walk is transferring internet Data and a call comes in, the phone does not ring. It goes directly to the voicemail.
T-Mobile customer service tell me that this is correct as you can either transfer internet data or make a call.
Is that right? I thought that was with WAP which is analagous to dial-up. Surely GPRS is analagous to Broadband.
Anyone else want to try this:
Go to Web & walk home page. Attempt loading up the guardian page (This will take a while). Whilst this is loading, call your phone number and see if it rings or goes direct to VM.
I spend lots of time browsing so I must be losing lots of calls!
Feedback greatly appreciated.
From what I have heard only UMTS devices can support simultaneous voice/data.
Yes - but not GRPS that uses GSM band instead of UMTS.
However, some devices have troubles keeping the data link active when a call comes in.
I am having the same issue (also on T-Mobile UK).
Then IE is running or AS is downloading my mail (I use direct push) all my calls go straight to voicemail.
This is worrying as I just moved over to T-Mobile for the web n walk package to allow me to have instant e-mails. This is a pain if it means I miss calls whilst my mail is downloading.
You'd think that the chances of the 2 coinciding are slim (I don't get a lot of mail, maybe 10 per day) but the wife has already complained 3 times since Friday that she went straight to voicemail, and each time it was exactly as i got a new mail.
Is this a limit of GPRS, the Orbit or just T-Mobile?
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Dae
I was surprised too... Thats why I posted the query. I thought my phone and/or SIm were faulty. But T-Mobile tell me thats how its supposed to work.
With W&W and Email, Its really hard for someone to get through with a voice call. It was worrying for me as I tend to browse the net whenever I am waiting around. This means that when I am on the bus surfing, no one can get through to me!!
Surely if there is a limitation, then the phone should give precendence to the Voice call. After all, you can pick up your emails or surfing where you left off.
I would really be interested to see if this is a T-Mobile only problem.
No itschase is spot on.
It's not a t-Mobile problem, it's the same for any GSM based network.
Only 3g (UMTS) phones can do data and voice at the same time. No matter what network you are on.
I have just run an experiment in the office as follows:-
Me (artemis with v3 black and blue) - Voicemail when data active
person 1 (MDA compact III - v3 black and blue) - Voicemail when active
person 2 (hermes) - no Voicemail when active.
We are all on t-mobile UK, and therefore it doesn't look like a network issue, but maybe a ROM problem?
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therefore it doesn't look like a network issue, but maybe a ROM problem?
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What problem? Everything is working as it supposed to. If it's so important to you. Go buy a 3g phone!
I now fully appreciate that 3g phones are the only ones to support this type of behaviour.
I was trying to be helpful and post the results of my test as at that point I didn't realise that only 3g phones worked as such. I was lead to believe this by wikipedia:-
"Class B
Can be connected to GPRS service and GSM service (voice, SMS), but using only one or the other at a given time. During GSM service (voice call or SMS), GPRS service is suspended, and then resumed automatically after the GSM service (voice call or SMS) has concluded. Most GPRS mobile devices are Class B. "
Obviously this is not the case.
Bring on the HTC Kaiser!!!
Gajet said:
What problem? Everything is working as it supposed to. If it's so important to you. Go buy a 3g phone!
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I incorrectly assumed that whilst browsing, if a voice call comes in, the phone would give priority to the call.
If I had known what I know now at the time I signed my 18M contract I would have bought a 3g Phone! Its just annoying that i'm stuck with it for another 12M. T-Mobile push the fact that they have set the internet free... but what they fail to get across to everyday users is that its "AT THE EXPENSE OF THE VOICE CALLS"
Because T-Mobile forced you to buy one of their 2.5g phones rather than one of their 3g phones?
I have no problem receiving phone calls while browsing the internet on the P3300.
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I have no problem receiving phone calls while browsing the internet on the P3300.
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Neither have I to be honest, the issue only arises while you are actively downloading data. However once the website has loaded, you are free to accept calls again whilst still looking at the site in the browser.
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Neither have I to be honest, the issue only arises while you are actively downloading data. However once the website has loaded, you are free to accept calls again whilst still looking at the site in the browser.
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As a test I started downloading a dummy 32MB testfile on my P3300 (from speedtest.bbned.nl) and I called my mobile with another phone.
There was no problem; I received the call while downloading the file.
Maybe it depends on the operator? I am in Holland on T-Mobile
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I now fully appreciate that 3g phones are the only ones to support this type of behaviour.
I was trying to be helpful and post the results of my test as at that point I didn't realise that only 3g phones worked as such. I was lead to believe this by wikipedia:-
"Class B
Can be connected to GPRS service and GSM service (voice, SMS), but using only one or the other at a given time. During GSM service (voice call or SMS), GPRS service is suspended, and then resumed automatically after the GSM service (voice call or SMS) has concluded. Most GPRS mobile devices are Class B. "
Obviously this is not the case.
Bring on the HTC Kaiser!!!
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Hi,
It's not enough to have a class A (2G) device, but also DTM (Dual Transfer Mode/Simple Class A) support has to be active in the specific network, otherwise only 3G device on 3G network will provide Class A (simultaneous voice & data).
In fact, there are quite many models from Nokia during last year that support DTM, but as already mentioned, it's not enough.
FYI,
Zohar
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As a test I started downloading a dummy 32MB testfile on my P3300 (from speedtest.bbned.nl) and I called my mobile with another phone.
There was no problem; I received the call while downloading the file.
Maybe it depends on the operator? I am in Holland on T-Mobile
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Is that an EDGE network ?
I got the Artemis with PV Black&Blue v3 ROM.
I can receive calls while pages are loading in IE.
I think this is a provider problem.
The phone provider has to intercept your GPRS connection and establish the GSM connection. Maybe T-Mobile just rejects calls while a GPRS connection/transfer is active.
A1 intercepts the page download and my call comes in.
When I pick up, the GPRS connection is closed completely. (not just pending)
So receiving calls while surfing is no problem for me with Austrian A1 provider.
Any other experiences?
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no, just gprs; no edge.
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no, just gprs; no edge.
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...then it's no way you'll get simultaneous voice and data (class a).
In Norway I live close to the border to Sweden. I have to roam in my area to a Norwegian Network, because my phone company only have their own network in the big cities here. Before I had an operator the had their own networks in my city.
So when I now roam with the other Norwegian network, I have to disable that "Disable network data when roaming". And sometimes I now get connected to the Swedish network and have to pay 20x times more pr MB.
Is there a way to disable 3G/2G on different networks of my choice?
Hope someone know of something that will help.
Sorry for my English.
Setting-wireless and network-mobile network-dataroming unchecked
Something like this cause mine is in dutch.
Like I said, I have to have it unched cous of my network today is not the default of my operator, so I'm romaing all the time when I use my phone. I want something that can read the operators name and then enable the 2G/3G data connection is it is one of the networks I've accepted. If it's not, then disable the connection.
Cant help you with your roamaing problem, Sorry. But maybe you should consider going back to your old network. If you have no signal at your home you may have the right to cancel your contract.
The clue is that I pay 20£(with use in Norway) until 1.1.2011 to use the phone(sms/mms, calls, MB) as much as I want for only 20£. After 1.1.2011 I'll pay 20£ for 500sms, 500 minutes and 500MB.
But that only works with the operator network and the one they rent(like I use). The one I rent belongs to Telenor, the biggest phone company, as they have the best signal too, I want to stick. But they suck at priceing, so I want to be with my new operator.
But why is it so hard to read the operator name with an app? Than then can enable/disable data connection?
My phone is Desire and it is rooted, running OpenDesire.
Sorry for misunderstanding the first time.
One option you could try is Tasker. I think it has the option to turn data off/on when connected to a certain cell tower. It's not the exact thing you asked for but i don't know any other options.
You have to program it yourself, but just download the app from there site (gives you a 7 day trial) and try it if you can make it work.
Cell Tower, is that the operators ID or the tower itselfe(a operator has many towers)?
Do people in Canada have that option? I mean, whenever I goto my CM 6.1 wifi calling app, its a t-mobile one and it wont work. I really dont know much about it except that Fido charges an add-on for using it. Isn't wifi calling supposed to be free? Can someone explain what It really means and how I can take advantage of it?
I don't know too much about it, except I presume there must be some sort of support from your carrier on it - e.g. when your phone is trying to make a call via wifi, then somehow the call needs to go from the Internet into your carrier's phone systems.
I know Fido doesn't have wifi calling (at least for free).
Why not get skype. I pay 2.99 a month for UNLIMITED wifi (and 3G) calling to landlines and mobiles in North America. I reduced my phone voice plan but bumped my data to take advantage of this. The only crappy thing is we can't get an incoming number because the CRTC blocked this in Canada for obvious reasons.
But you can use it for all your outgoing calls and you can also set the outgoing caller ID as your cell number so people will know it is you when you call.
does anybody know package name of wifi calling? I'd like to uninstall it, but can't find package name.
I've only found apk name (ms-htcvision-knt20-02.apk)
Download free aps Root System Free, run as root, run Terminal and write:
cd System
cd App
rm ms-htcvision-knt20-02.apk
Reboot system and wifi calling is gone.
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Do people in Canada have that option? I mean, whenever I goto my CM 6.1 wifi calling app, its a t-mobile one and it wont work. I really dont know much about it except that Fido charges an add-on for using it. Isn't wifi calling supposed to be free? Can someone explain what It really means and how I can take advantage of it?
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You'd have to be in the US and using a T-mobile SIM/Number in order to take advantage of it. Its a T-mobile app to run on the T-mo network.
I have international texting plan and I'm going to be traveling overseas. I know if I use wifi calling feature and call back to US it's not going to overcharge me. I called T-Mobile and asked them if same applies to texting but no one seems to know the answer for sure. Would it charge me extra if I have wifi calling enable and I'm texting an international number from overseas, since I've international texting plan?
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Google voice
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was about to say google voice
Yes but google voice only works in U.S. As soon as you cross the border to canada or a different county google voice, hulu and bunch of other stuff doesn't work. Even some of my amazon apps won't work if I am in a different county.
This is just a shot in the dark. I need to update my sim card to use wifi calling, and i cant remember if your phone will allow a call in airplane mode (to turn your radio off) with wifi on. if it does maybe you can test the same for texts.
Upon further review it seems data must be on even for wifi calling....maybe theres an app out there that can help you out
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Yes but google voice only works in U.S. As soon as you cross the border to canada or a different county google voice, hulu and bunch of other stuff doesn't work. Even some of my amazon apps won't work if I am in a different county.
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I've used my GV to text to the US while in Russia and Germany with no issues last year.
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Google voice doesn't work in Canada. I guess my question is if we have wifi calling feature on, the phone is not using its own data but the text msgs is routed thru wifi, so I shouldn't be charged for those text since I have unlimited international texting. Am I correct?
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Google voice doesn't work in Canada. I guess my question is if we have wifi calling feature on, the phone is not using its own data but the text msgs is routed thru wifi, so I shouldn't be charged for those text since I have unlimited international texting. Am I correct?
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I just came back from canada 2 weeks ago and was using google voice perfectly fine. I was using it for calls though, not texts.
I am currently in the Dominican Republic, and google voice works just fine here. I am not able to setup a new account here but as long as the account was made in the U.S. first, then it can be used when going over sees.
there are plenty of alternatives, but to answer the original question, yes, it will charge you extra. Wifi calling does not support sms.
Actually Im in Canada right now and wifi calling works awesome. I have been calling and texting from the airports, coffee shops and hotels using their wifi. As of right now, I checked my account on TMobile.com and there is no additional charges.
If I am correct, after registering on tmobile network, wifi calling routes ur calling thru wifi instead of using a cell tower. During the wifi calling feature enables, ur cell tower is disabled so ur texting should be routed thru wifi also.
Please correct me if I m wrong.
media_11 said:
Actually Im in Canada right now and wifi calling works awesome. I have been calling and texting from the airports, coffee shops and hotels using their wifi. As of right now, I checked my account on TMobile.com and there is no additional charges.
If I am correct, after registering on tmobile network, wifi calling routes ur calling thru wifi instead of using a cell tower. During the wifi calling feature enables, ur cell tower is disabled so ur texting should be routed thru wifi also.
Please correct me if I m wrong.
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That is how it works and sms messages are routed through wifi too but it wouldnt be the first time a carrier found a way to charge for services not rendered, remember att and charging people for using data over wifi. I think you should be able to swing a credit if they do try to charge you. In the future you could use a vpn to your home in the us and use gv or whatever free.
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To be honest tmobile has been very good to me so far. I switched to tmobile from AT&T cuz of their really bad customer service. Google voice works good too but I hate to explain to people why I'm calling/texting from a different number. Aspecially when I travel without informing my boss lol.
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To be honest tmobile has been very good to me so far. I switched to tmobile from AT&T cuz of their really bad customer service. Google voice works good too but I hate to explain to people why I'm calling/texting from a different number. Aspecially when I travel without informing my boss lol.
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Lol @ the secret vacation
Tmo has been good to me too but I dont want to forget what carriers are capable of, dont want to get blindsided.
Yeah explaining to friends about the second number feels weird. Like I have a secret life and a burner phone or something.
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I have tmo and another simple mobile phone that I use for international calling. Some girls I work with already think that I'm a drug dealer cuz I carry 2 phones...I can't imagine how would I explain google voice number to them. They are not very tech savvy and I don't think they would understand how a virtual google voice number would work. Do you guys ever struggle sometimes explaining tech stuff to friends or coworkers?
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I have tmo and another simple mobile phone that I use for international calling. Some girls I work with already think that I'm a drug dealer cuz I carry 2 phones...I can't imagine how would I explain google voice number to them. They are not very tech savvy and I don't think they would understand how a virtual google voice number would work. Do you guys ever struggle sometimes explaining tech stuff to friends or coworkers?
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I just told them dont bother sending mms email the pic to me or google+ messneger which should be the native google voice app. Still wondering why google just doesnt fuse talk ,messenger and voice or at least have google+ voice integration
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Hello, first of all I want to say that my native language is Spanish and I am using the Google translator to write this, so there may be writing errors and apologize.
Buy a motorola edge x30 and the imported import from China. The phone is unlocked to be used with GSM networks from anywhere in the world. When I bought it, I was with Metro PCS but in Metro I was told that the phone was not compatible with the 3G networks of them. After that I started to investigate and find a web page called kimovil and there I saw that the edge x30 was compatible in the USA with all the networks of 3 suppliers: Cricket, AT & T and T-Mobile: I choose to use change to metro by T-Mobile.
Immediately I left the T-Mobile store after making the change I have tried and could receive and send SMS, receive and make calls, and get access to the Internet without any problem. After a couple of hours of having activated services with T-Mobile, the phone could not or receive more calls (the Internet and SMS continue to work normally, the problem is only with calls). When I try to call someone, the call is not done and says "Hanging Up". I tried everything: Factory Reset, Networks Reset, modify network configuration, everything ... and I can not solve the problem. I went to T-Mobile to tell you about my problem and they tell me that the problem is not them but my phone.
If anyone knows how to solve this problem, I would greatly appreciate the help because I feel frustrated. Thanks
I have MOTO EDGE x30 with T-Mobile. Work perfectly. Check the SIM setting.
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I have MOTO EDGE x30 with T-Mobile. Work perfectly. Check the SIM setting.
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Good afternoon. I already managed to use the Edge X30 with the T-Mobile network. You just had to put the network selector on automatic so that you can use 5G, LTE, 3G and 2G as you see fit. The problem is that I realized that the phone only calls and receives calls in 3G and 2G, which limits not only the quality of the calls but also limits your coverage to be able to make calls since you can only make them in 3G and 2G . You who also use T-Mobile, does the same thing happen to you?
I'm not sure, but it supports 5G in N1/N3/N5/N7/N8/N20/N28/N38/N41/N78 and 4G in B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B7/B8/B12/B17/B34/B38/B39/B40/B41. or check volte settings.
you may try to install "carrier services" app by google from the play store. it solves some of my problem with data connection.
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Good afternoon. I already managed to use the Edge X30 with the T-Mobile network. You just had to put the network selector on automatic so that you can use 5G, LTE, 3G and 2G as you see fit. The problem is that I realized that the phone only calls and receives calls in 3G and 2G, which limits not only the quality of the calls but also limits your coverage to be able to make calls since you can only make them in 3G and 2G . You who also use T-Mobile, does the same thing happen to you?
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Yes I have the same issue. Whenever I make or receive voice calls, the phone falls back from LTE to 2G. I looked everywhere on the phone for 'VOLTE' settings but could not find it. Does VOLTE work for this phone on Tmobile? Very frustrating.
Has anyone been able to find the solution for the calls switching back to 2g? I love the phone but this is extremely annoying. I'm on T-mobile. Thank you