Texting over wifi - T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989

I have international texting plan and I'm going to be traveling overseas. I know if I use wifi calling feature and call back to US it's not going to overcharge me. I called T-Mobile and asked them if same applies to texting but no one seems to know the answer for sure. Would it charge me extra if I have wifi calling enable and I'm texting an international number from overseas, since I've international texting plan?

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was about to say google voice

Yes but google voice only works in U.S. As soon as you cross the border to canada or a different county google voice, hulu and bunch of other stuff doesn't work. Even some of my amazon apps won't work if I am in a different county.

This is just a shot in the dark. I need to update my sim card to use wifi calling, and i cant remember if your phone will allow a call in airplane mode (to turn your radio off) with wifi on. if it does maybe you can test the same for texts.
Upon further review it seems data must be on even for wifi calling....maybe theres an app out there that can help you out

media_11 said:
Yes but google voice only works in U.S. As soon as you cross the border to canada or a different county google voice, hulu and bunch of other stuff doesn't work. Even some of my amazon apps won't work if I am in a different county.
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I've used my GV to text to the US while in Russia and Germany with no issues last year.
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Google voice doesn't work in Canada. I guess my question is if we have wifi calling feature on, the phone is not using its own data but the text msgs is routed thru wifi, so I shouldn't be charged for those text since I have unlimited international texting. Am I correct?

media_11 said:
Google voice doesn't work in Canada. I guess my question is if we have wifi calling feature on, the phone is not using its own data but the text msgs is routed thru wifi, so I shouldn't be charged for those text since I have unlimited international texting. Am I correct?
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I just came back from canada 2 weeks ago and was using google voice perfectly fine. I was using it for calls though, not texts.

I am currently in the Dominican Republic, and google voice works just fine here. I am not able to setup a new account here but as long as the account was made in the U.S. first, then it can be used when going over sees.

there are plenty of alternatives, but to answer the original question, yes, it will charge you extra. Wifi calling does not support sms.

Actually Im in Canada right now and wifi calling works awesome. I have been calling and texting from the airports, coffee shops and hotels using their wifi. As of right now, I checked my account on TMobile.com and there is no additional charges.
If I am correct, after registering on tmobile network, wifi calling routes ur calling thru wifi instead of using a cell tower. During the wifi calling feature enables, ur cell tower is disabled so ur texting should be routed thru wifi also.
Please correct me if I m wrong.

media_11 said:
Actually Im in Canada right now and wifi calling works awesome. I have been calling and texting from the airports, coffee shops and hotels using their wifi. As of right now, I checked my account on TMobile.com and there is no additional charges.
If I am correct, after registering on tmobile network, wifi calling routes ur calling thru wifi instead of using a cell tower. During the wifi calling feature enables, ur cell tower is disabled so ur texting should be routed thru wifi also.
Please correct me if I m wrong.
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That is how it works and sms messages are routed through wifi too but it wouldnt be the first time a carrier found a way to charge for services not rendered, remember att and charging people for using data over wifi. I think you should be able to swing a credit if they do try to charge you. In the future you could use a vpn to your home in the us and use gv or whatever free.
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To be honest tmobile has been very good to me so far. I switched to tmobile from AT&T cuz of their really bad customer service. Google voice works good too but I hate to explain to people why I'm calling/texting from a different number. Aspecially when I travel without informing my boss lol.

media_11 said:
To be honest tmobile has been very good to me so far. I switched to tmobile from AT&T cuz of their really bad customer service. Google voice works good too but I hate to explain to people why I'm calling/texting from a different number. Aspecially when I travel without informing my boss lol.
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Lol @ the secret vacation
Tmo has been good to me too but I dont want to forget what carriers are capable of, dont want to get blindsided.
Yeah explaining to friends about the second number feels weird. Like I have a secret life and a burner phone or something.
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I have tmo and another simple mobile phone that I use for international calling. Some girls I work with already think that I'm a drug dealer cuz I carry 2 phones...I can't imagine how would I explain google voice number to them. They are not very tech savvy and I don't think they would understand how a virtual google voice number would work. Do you guys ever struggle sometimes explaining tech stuff to friends or coworkers?

media_11 said:
I have tmo and another simple mobile phone that I use for international calling. Some girls I work with already think that I'm a drug dealer cuz I carry 2 phones...I can't imagine how would I explain google voice number to them. They are not very tech savvy and I don't think they would understand how a virtual google voice number would work. Do you guys ever struggle sometimes explaining tech stuff to friends or coworkers?
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I just told them dont bother sending mms email the pic to me or google+ messneger which should be the native google voice app. Still wondering why google just doesnt fuse talk ,messenger and voice or at least have google+ voice integration
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can a verizon galaxy nexus be sim unlocked?

the verizon version of the galaxy nexus has a sim slot could the be unlock? i see them selling the same verizon phone on ebay and it says unlock
The Verizon gnex will only work on Verizon. No exceptions.
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^^^what he said, it doesn't have the correct radios for it to work on anything GSM besides Verizon LTE
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If anyone else is still on this thread
I think i need it sim unlocked so i can use it over wifi, because i moved to alaska and i use my google voice number. I need it sim unlocked because when i try to make a call it wont let me because it cant reach the verizon network at the same time as it trys to reach the wifi network.
Slie said:
I think i need it sim unlocked so i can use it over wifi, because i moved to alaska and i use my google voice number. I need it sim unlocked because when i try to make a call it wont let me because it cant reach the verizon network at the same time as it trys to reach the wifi network.
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Turn on airplane mode then enable WiFi perhaps?
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Slie said:
I think i need it sim unlocked so i can use it over wifi, because i moved to alaska and i use my google voice number. I need it sim unlocked because when i try to make a call it wont let me because it cant reach the verizon network at the same time as it trys to reach the wifi network.
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Does Verizon not have service in your area of Alaska? Either way, a SIM unlock won't help, because as noted earlier here, the Verizon GNex won't work on another network.
You need a cell network to make calls on Google Voice though, unless you want to use a 3rd party app to bridge the cap and make VOIP calls over WiFi. By default, GV will not make calls over WiFi.
I was in Alaska last month and used my Verizon Nexus several times while on Wi-Fi using Groove IP. Verizon coverage in Alaska is pretty bad though.
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If you moved and they can't provide you service, they have to let you out of your contract.
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z06mike said:
If you moved and they can't provide you service, they have to let you out of your contract.
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They don't do that anymore
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El Daddy said:
The Verizon gnex will only work on Verizon. No exceptions.
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It will work for cricket wireless
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Thank you all for this us full, ifno!!!
I can text with google voice, but not make calls i was hoping that if i could go around the verizon antans i could use it as is only on wifi.
Thanks for bringing up the 3rd party app makes soo much sense(as i did that on the iphone).
Well I'll just text with it until i come up with something to do with it.
"Airplane mode + Wireless"? hope you were messing with me,
Slie said:
"Airplane mode + Wireless"? hope you were messing with me,
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Switch to airplane mode, then turn on WiFi.
Cool Full internet on airplane mode
But when i place a call through wifi google voice it asks me to turn airplane mode off.
Slie said:
But when i place a call through wifi google voice it asks me to turn airplane mode off.
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Just like I said before... Google Voice is not a VOIP service!!! By default, Google Voice is simply a call forwarding service. It just places calls via the normal cell network and routes them to make it look like they're coming from your GV #. It uses minutes and can't be used directly over data on the phone.
If you want to make calls on your GV # on just data, you need to use a computer (via Google Talk) or use a VOIP application that uses the Google Talk protocol to make calls on your phone. Simple popular apps for this are GrooVe IP and Talkatone. Chances are if you need to make lots of calls these won't work well enough for you to rely on them.
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Slie said:
I can text with google voice, but not make calls i was hoping that if i could go around the verizon antans i could use it as is only on wifi.
Thanks for bringing up the 3rd party app makes soo much sense(as i did that on the iphone).
Well I'll just text with it until i come up with something to do with it.
"Airplane mode + Wireless"? hope you were messing with me,
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No, do it all the time on my NS and vibrant. Don't see how its that odd?
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martonikaj said:
Just like I said before... Google Voice is not a VOIP service!!! By default, Google Voice is simply a call forwarding service. It just places calls via the normal cell network and routes them to make it look like they're coming from your GV #. It uses minutes and can't be used directly over data on the phone.
If you want to make calls on your GV # on just data, you need to use a computer (via Google Talk) or use a VOIP application that uses the Google Talk protocol to make calls on your phone. Simple popular apps for this are GrooVe IP and Talkatone. Chances are if you need to make lots of calls these won't work well enough for you to rely on them.
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This^
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Like i said I agree with all,
I am however glad i can use the wifi with airplane mode I thank you for the ViOp it made a bunch of sense seeing as how i've had to set that up before. I might do it i might not I can text i never talk so it's really cool!
too good to be true at least!! would be awesome ha ha
maybe viop if anyone needed to know about it it's all here Bomb!!
Thank's all for sure!!
z06mike said:
If you moved and they can't provide you service, they have to let you out of your contract.
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I love internet lore! No, they do not have to let you out of your contact. They may still do it as a courtesy in some exceptional cases, but it is not the norm and they are under absolutely no obligation to do so.
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wifi calling

i want to know can wifi calling make free international calling... can someone explain to me how it work
cloudi602 said:
i want to know can wifi calling make free international calling... can someone explain to me how it work
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WiFi calling uses a tech called IMS which was helped through development by T-Mobile. It DOES use your anytime minutes and DOES NOT give you free international calling or unlimited minutes, you must already have international and unlimited minutes on your T-Mobile plan. The WiFi calling is just taking your phone off the cellular networks and putting everything possible, internet, calls, and texts through your internet connection, nothing more. If you're looking for international calling via WiFi, you're going to have to find a VoIP service provider that provides unlimited international calling (good luck) and use a softphone (VoIP phone application) in order to get what you're after.
I won't go into detail how to set that up or possible VoIP carriers you can get, that's what Google is for.
Cynagen said:
WiFi calling uses a tech called IMS which was helped through development by T-Mobile. It DOES use your anytime minutes and DOES NOT give you free international calling or unlimited minutes, you must already have international and unlimited minutes on your T-Mobile plan. The WiFi calling is just taking your phone off the cellular networks and putting everything possible, internet, calls, and texts through your internet connection, nothing more. If you're looking for international calling via WiFi, you're going to have to find a VoIP service provider that provides unlimited international calling (good luck) and use a softphone (VoIP phone application) in order to get what you're after.
I won't go into detail how to set that up or possible VoIP carriers you can get, that's what Google is for.
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thank you for the quick reply and your right google does the job
Actually, once you sign up on your tmobile account for free wifi calling, the minutes do NOT count toward your monthly minute total.
It's a special option for certain phones, the S4 included. Look under plan add-ons or something like that. It is free to add.
That being said, no, you cannot call from the US internationally for free.
However, you can call internationally, on wifi, to the US, for free.

4g LTE phone calls experience need opinion

Hello can anyone please share your experience specifically on the calling and the texting features ?
Maybe even make a video? No one seem to talk about this at all?
kingrichards said:
Hello can anyone please share your experience specifically on the calling and the texting features ?
Maybe even make a video? No one seem to talk about this at all?
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Wow no one here have courage? To try this? Lol
C'mon guys pop that SIM card in there and share the experience!!!!!!!!!!
I would like no know this too as I just got the 4G LTE and text messaging works flawlessly, except phone calls as it gives me busy signal on all calls that are made. Don't know what's wrong. The sim card is activated and everything works as it should. Except phone calls..
Adam.S said:
I would like no know this too as I just got the 4G LTE and text messaging works flawlessly, except phone calls as it gives me busy signal on all calls that are made. Don't know what's wrong. The sim card is activated and everything works as it should. Except phone calls..
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There's really not a lot to talk about. The SM-P601/5 are just giant phones. Anything a N3 can do, they can do. Dialers and MMS/SMS are pretty much the same on every phone and the SM-P601/5 are no exception.
Here's a screen shot...
P.S. - In order to use the voice and messaging features the SM-P601/5 have to be provisioned by your carrier as "phones." Tablet-specific data plans don't support calls or MMS even though the device is capable.
I was waiting for a response and didn't get anyone to chime in so I finally got my note 10.1 p605 so here goes yes you need to get a sim with voice and data plan it will work. I'm currently using it as my phone at the moment and it rocks!
I have the SM-P605 4G LTE and I couldn't figure out how to make phone calls on this device. Can you help?
kingrichards said:
I was waiting for a response and didn't get anyone to chime in so I finally got my note 10.1 p605 so here goes yes you need to get a sim with voice and data plan it will work. I'm currently using it as my phone at the moment and it rocks!
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natosports said:
I have the SM-P605 4G LTE and I couldn't figure out how to make phone calls on this device. Can you help?
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Is your SM-P605 from a carrier or Samsung? The U.S. carriers and possibly some others disable voice and MMS and always have in the tablets they offer. If you don't see the Dialer and Messaging apps when you look in the app drawer I'm guessing they've been disabled in whatever version of SM-P605 you have. If you see them and can't use them that means the SIM you're using probably doesn't support voice and MMS. They're either there out-of-the-box or they aren't. If they aren't there's not a lot you can do about it.
BarryH,
I got mine from the Verizon store. I downloaded a Dialer app from Google Play and tried to make a call, but still no go. The app brought up a Dialer, but when I punch in a telephone number, and press Send, it just beeps and does nothing. The Sim card was from my 4G LTE phone. I swapped it over.
I was, however, able to make calls using Google Voice & Groove IP. But man, I would just love to be able to make calls just like a phone.
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Is your SM-P605 from a carrier or Samsung? The U.S. carriers and possibly some others disable voice and MMS and always have in the tablets they offer. If you don't see the Dialer and Messaging apps when you look in the app drawer I'm guessing they've been disabled in whatever version of SM-P605 you have. If you see them and can't use them that means the SIM you're using probably doesn't support voice and MMS. They're either there out-of-the-box or they aren't. If they aren't there's not a lot you can do about it.
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Add T-Mobile Wifi-Preferred calling VOIP to non tmobile ROM

Hey guys, I've been trying to figure out how to Add T-Mobile Wifi-Preferred calling VOIP to non tmobile ROM as I just copied/pasted the title lol. My ROM is DN3 by electro-team.com & they already told me they didn't have it. I've found a wifi-preferred.apk on this xda but it was from a pretty old post & it crashes on launch.
Somewhere I read where it calls on code in the tmobile stock ROM's system partition or something like that. I live in a valley at the bottom & I get zero or 1 bar by my window but no service in most of my house. I didn't realize that T-Mobile was the only phone provider that offered true VOIP wifi-preferred calling....I have been with them for 8 years lol. I'd get calls through my internet router's connection even when I was out of cell tower 4G LTE range! Man if I would have known that I would never have flashed a non-Tmobile ROM. Plus to top it off I had a defective microSD card so even though my NANDROID backup said it saved, it was gone on reboot...ugh bad luck.
I just got this ROM set up the way I want it....I'd hate to hafta flash another. Let me know PLEASE if anyone of you smart ladies & gents knows how I can get Tmobiles "wifi-preferred" calling back on my phone.
Thanks guys!
Unless I'm mistaken (but I don't think I am), you can't have native WIFI Calling on non-Tmobile Roms. For that, you will have to flash a stock Rom.
I use this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2564430
You can also use 3rd party apps to make VOIP calls. Google Voice is also a good alternative.
Sorry for the bad news and good luck.
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wifi-preferred not wifi calling
I have a $60.00 a year skype plan & number that works well. But I want to use my "carrier" number. I have google voice & google hangouts but with hangouts dialer it still only calls phone numbers on LTE networks...doesn't work over wifi internet connection, unless ur calling someone by hangouts username. All phone number calls go out through LTE only on google hangouts/voice dialer thing.
I'm talking about "WIFI-Preferred calling" not wifi-calling....they have the terminology all confusing when you google it. There's got to be a way. I know non-stock ROMs that say they have it. I've found 2. I'll look up what they are called.

How is WiFi Calling different than simply using Hangouts Dialer on WiFi?

Apart from using your carrier number vs your Google Voice number?
I think there are people just use to using SIP XXX for whatever back in the day. It's what was used from the beginning. So you have people stuck, just because they've always used XXX to make wifi calls. (minus T-mo people)
Then hangouts dialer wanted to install on its own on tablets. As a group, all things got better, and now hangouts dialer seems pretty decent to me. It's easy to do, and easy to dial using it, on accident even. Quality is all network dependent and is subjective in it's entirety.
So we've fast forwarded 5 years and it's just plain easy and the quality is decent. Dial from hangouts and save the hassle.
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Apart from using your carrier number vs your Google Voice number?
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http://gizmodo.com/what-is-wi-fi-calling-1635271129
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http://gizmodo.com/what-is-wi-fi-calling-1635271129
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So it's basically like I said, the only difference is it uses your carrier number instead of your GV number.
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So it's basically like I said, the only difference is it uses your carrier number instead of your GV number.
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Wifi calling doesn't need mobile data.
For example, in a car on the way back home. Your mobile data is off. But still you can call/talk to your friend on voice. When you get home, the system handover the conversation from cellular to wifi seamlessly.
Does anyone know if doing this will count towards your minutes for the month? I don't have unlimited minutes. So, just curious.
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Does anyone know if doing this will count towards your minutes for the month? I don't have unlimited minutes.
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With most carriers, Wi-Fi calling will count against your minutes—Hangouts and other non-carrier-based voice apps will not.

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