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[Q] Im looking for a specific type of rom....

Hi!
Im looking for a Desire HD or Desire Z rom that installs fully to nand and doesnt require the use of the SD card for swap. Im not looking for max performance and i only use a few apps. I just want the new sense.
Any suggestions?
Thanks

Have a look at the Sense HD roms

Thanks! I dont know how i missed that thread.
But it looks like there are no roms that dont use some kind of swap.

there are... I use cool HD ROM (v4)

thehrushi said:
there are... I use cool HD ROM (v4)
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Really? I was reading through that specific thread and it said partitioning the sd card was needed. Did i misunderstand it?

you mean this one?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=899943
Features:
* Major Internal Remake n Tweaks... This rom installed 100% on 250mb System partition No need for S-OFF and custom MTD n EVEN SDCARD.
if this rom is all on the NAND then does it mean there's less internal storage space for apps?

I think thats the one hes talking about.
After going through that thread a bit more, i see that there is no swap, but there is still need to partition the sd card to use with A2SD... because there is less internal storage for apps.

A2SD vs D2Whatever vs D2Ext

Hi all.
Can anyone explain the advantages of the 3 modes listed? I currently use A2SD+.
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omfg this has been explained so many times, and each have a separate thread on here somewhere, so it should not be that hard to do some searching yourself.
But the latter too moves the data partition to the ext-partition or if you use some other filesystem, a2whatever can let you use that partition on the sd-card. This gives you the possibility to have almost unlimited space for data and apps, but the sd-card is quite a lot slower than the flash memory, so it is easy to see the slowdowns in everyday use if you ask me.
a2sd is when you only move /data/app and possibly /data/app-private to the ext-partition. This doesn't slow the system down as much as a2sd+ or d2sd, because all the important files are kept internally, whereas on a2sd+ dalvik cache is moved as well.

Ok, so maybe I should have been a bit more clear. I have read the threads and I understand the general principles. I was more interested in knowing the practical aspects. With A2SD + for instance of you don't format the extended partition you have all your applications there after installing the ROM. But you loose configuration. Do any of the others preserve all data and apps? As in, after an installation of a new ROM, all is ready to work?
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You would most likely get bootloops. When you flash a new rom, it is advisable to wipe everything. Each rom that has a2sd or what ever has different scripts.
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Meaple said:
You would most likely get bootloops. When you flash a new rom, it is advisable to wipe everything. Each rom that has a2sd or what ever has different scripts.
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Thanks. Based on this I think I'll be moving over to an a2sd rom soon.

Don't use a2sd+ , at least from my experience (at using and flashing all possible roms..Sense roms that is) D2SD (aka D2ext) is by far the best and most stable/fastest depending on your SD card It actually (kinda) adds the ext partition to your internal mem,so you don't have to have an app to check the status and info of your ext/a2sd parition

aca85 said:
Don't use a2sd+ , at least from my experience (at using and flashing all possible roms..Sense roms that is) D2SD (aka D2ext) is by far the best and most stable/fastest depending on your SD card It actually (kinda) adds the ext partition to your internal mem,so you don't have to have an app to check the status and info of your ext/a2sd parition
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Hummmm... sounds interesting.
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Currently running iNsertCoinHD Data++ and that's quite fantastic
Really smooth experience...

cgmorris89 said:
Currently running iNsertCoinHD Data++ and that's quite fantastic
Really smooth experience...
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But would you say it's faster than A2SD?
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Yeah I'd say so...can't be certain though, its all quite relative isn't it?
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Non ext partition roms

Is there any desire roms out there that doesnt require a ext partition these days?
I just want a custom rom without the need to always use that one sd card to boot and im not really much of an app user anyway.

a lot of the apps2sd roms will go on without an ext partition - but you'll just have limited space, usually about 73-130mb of the internal storage...

Looking in the android development thread it seems that most of them listed ext partiton as a requirement due to parts of system files are also in the ext partition required to boot.

Check with the dev of the roms for apps2sd ones that you might like... I am sure I saw an 'apps2sd killer' script too once so you might be able to apply that

the 2.1 ROMS usually goes well whitout the app2sd but its highly recommended

try CM7
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Just delete the ext partition and the rom such as miui for example will detect that there is no extra partion an so will disable the a2sd scrript
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murasame2006 said:
Is there any desire roms out there that doesnt require a ext partition these days?
I just want a custom rom without the need to always use that one sd card to boot and im not really much of an app user anyway.
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AceS
VisionS
SagaS
AceSMod007 Lite
All this roms dont have ext partition)

All those roms dont have a nona2sd version.. but nice try ..
I may make the leap soon to partitioned rom , but for now I have go launcher which looks good..

dgattenb said:
All those roms dont have a nona2sd version.. but nice try ..
I may make the leap soon to partitioned rom , but for now I have go launcher which looks good..
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If you do go down the road of partitioning as you put it
Save yourself some future hassle and purchase a class 10 memory card and read about changing your recovery program to 4Ext Recovery 2.1.0.
I'm a complete noob but managed to do it with a little forum trolling
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[Q] Bliss Port Memory

I need to find a fix for this, as this Evo is my dad's now (I'm on an Epic as my actual phone and Nexus S as my play toy now)
I can't install much apps without it telling me it's out of internal memory.
I already did the A2SD thing but even after it still gives me that crap.
Is there any way I could go about fixing it?
Right now I'm just settling for using Root Uninstaller and uninstalling a whole **** load of HTC Widgets he doesn't use.

Are you using the built in apps to SD or an SD ext partition?
If you haven't partitioned the card then I would do that.
Does he really need such a huge rom? Why not flash something smaller?
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plainjane said:
Are you using the built in apps to SD or an SD ext partition?
If you haven't partitioned the card then I would do that.
Does he really need such a huge rom? Why not flash something smaller?
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Well at first I flashed it just to play with it and I was gonna restore back to Stock GB OTA, but he ended up liking Sense 3.5.
And yeah I Partitioned, and I used the built in A2SD and did the "a2sd reinstall" command already, and at first it worked but I guess now it doesn't?

[Q] Partitioning SD, is there a clear easy guide?

after a few hours of searching and reading on xda and google, i understand the reasoning for aligning partitions on the SD card, but i just cant find a clear set of instructions on how to do so. I´ve read Sibre´s thread on partitioning, which mostly made sense but the calculations seems a little confusing. I have a 16gb class 6 SD card.
Currently my SD card is partitioned as Fat32 + EXT4 (1gb), which was done with gparted, aligned to MiB.
1: does anyone know of an easy to follow guide?
2: Is there an app (or command line string) that can show the details of an SD cards current partition configuration, and/or confirm if its correctly aligned?

i just use ext4 recovery... not the touch one, its still too large, i dont want to brick my phone... but the normal one it great!
this recovery will do all you asked for and all you need.

There is no reason to re-partition your SD card, unless you wanna use a ROM with DATA2SD (which needs an EXT-partition with 1,5 GB - 2 GB). For the rest of the ROM's your setup should be totally fine.
If you really need to partition your SD card, the easiest is to do it with recovery (my recommendations are 4EXT or RMD). The alternative should only be GParted, nothing else! Please do not use something like Rom Manager or Partition Wizard if you want to have the rewards of your SD card!

MatDrOiD said:
There is no reason to re-partition your SD card, unless you wanna use a ROM with DATA2SD (which needs an EXT-partition with 1,5 GB - 2 GB). For the rest of the ROM's your setup should be totally fine.
If you really need to partition your SD card, the easiest is to do it with recovery (my recommendations are 4EXT or RMD). The alternative should only be GParted, nothing else! Please do not use something like Rom Manager or Partition Wizard if you want to have the rewards of your SD card!
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Thanks for info. Im currently using MIUI-XJ D2EXT rom, but have been trying CM7.1 which seems quite laggy in comparison. Manu´s Kernel seems to give best performance, have also tried tiamat´s.
I wasn´t quite sure if the lag in CM7.1 was due to SD alignment, as i was using D2SD.

dsbnz said:
Thanks for info. Im currently using MIUI-XJ D2EXT rom, but have been trying CM7.1 which seems quite laggy in comparison. Manu´s Kernel seems to give best performance, have also tried tiamat´s.
I wasn´t quite sure if the lag in CM7.1 was due to SD alignment, as i was using D2SD.
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CM7 does not lag. Period.

bortak said:
CM7 does not lag. Period.
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bortak said:
CM7 does not lag. Period.
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Absolutely correct. Never lags.
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timmaaa said:
Absolutely correct. Never lags.
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I can appreciate that others have a better experience on theirs with cm7, but not so in the case on mine. As much as i´d like to be using cm7 (as i really like the options), it doesn´t perform near as well as miui-xj d2ext on my desire. Possibly the D2SD is causing the lag.

CM7 in itself is a fast rom and doesn't really support any "xxx-2SD" that's why we say that the ROM doesn't lag.
Since the hardware limitations of our device, we are 'forced' to apply 'hacks' to get the most out of it. I haven't flashed/used any scripts but I do use S2E app on the market and haven't experienced any lag with CM7. Yes there is a possibility that the D2SD you are using is causing the lag.

Check out this excellent tutorial:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/SD_card_partitioning

on cm7 i suggest a2sd ONLY, NOT dalvik/caches 2 sd, NOT data to sd, NOT a2sdx
simple a2sd using, oddly simple2ext, or one of the unofficial scripts given out in the CM7 nightly thread... (gingervillian uses darktremors a2sd, but even that causes lag with dalvik2sd)
https://market.android.com/developer?pub=OlegKrikun
if you use anything else you are likely to cause lag.

I've used ClockWorkMod Recovery for partitioning my sd-card. I'm running Runnymede AIO V4.0 SE now. No problems at all.

stankyou said:
CM7 in itself is a fast rom and doesn't really support any "xxx-2SD" that's why we say that the ROM doesn't lag.
Since the hardware limitations of our device, we are 'forced' to apply 'hacks' to get the most out of it. I haven't flashed/used any scripts but I do use S2E app on the market and haven't experienced any lag with CM7. Yes there is a possibility that the D2SD you are using is causing the lag.
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i tried S2E but i couldn´t get it to work, even after trying various options the data space didnt go beyond 140mb

S2e doesn't change change the data partition, its not meant to.
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