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[Q] Im looking for a specific type of rom....

Hi!
Im looking for a Desire HD or Desire Z rom that installs fully to nand and doesnt require the use of the SD card for swap. Im not looking for max performance and i only use a few apps. I just want the new sense.
Any suggestions?
Thanks

Have a look at the Sense HD roms

Thanks! I dont know how i missed that thread.
But it looks like there are no roms that dont use some kind of swap.

there are... I use cool HD ROM (v4)

thehrushi said:
there are... I use cool HD ROM (v4)
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Really? I was reading through that specific thread and it said partitioning the sd card was needed. Did i misunderstand it?

you mean this one?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=899943
Features:
* Major Internal Remake n Tweaks... This rom installed 100% on 250mb System partition No need for S-OFF and custom MTD n EVEN SDCARD.
if this rom is all on the NAND then does it mean there's less internal storage space for apps?

I think thats the one hes talking about.
After going through that thread a bit more, i see that there is no swap, but there is still need to partition the sd card to use with A2SD... because there is less internal storage for apps.

A2SD vs D2Whatever vs D2Ext

Hi all.
Can anyone explain the advantages of the 3 modes listed? I currently use A2SD+.
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omfg this has been explained so many times, and each have a separate thread on here somewhere, so it should not be that hard to do some searching yourself.
But the latter too moves the data partition to the ext-partition or if you use some other filesystem, a2whatever can let you use that partition on the sd-card. This gives you the possibility to have almost unlimited space for data and apps, but the sd-card is quite a lot slower than the flash memory, so it is easy to see the slowdowns in everyday use if you ask me.
a2sd is when you only move /data/app and possibly /data/app-private to the ext-partition. This doesn't slow the system down as much as a2sd+ or d2sd, because all the important files are kept internally, whereas on a2sd+ dalvik cache is moved as well.

Ok, so maybe I should have been a bit more clear. I have read the threads and I understand the general principles. I was more interested in knowing the practical aspects. With A2SD + for instance of you don't format the extended partition you have all your applications there after installing the ROM. But you loose configuration. Do any of the others preserve all data and apps? As in, after an installation of a new ROM, all is ready to work?
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You would most likely get bootloops. When you flash a new rom, it is advisable to wipe everything. Each rom that has a2sd or what ever has different scripts.
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Meaple said:
You would most likely get bootloops. When you flash a new rom, it is advisable to wipe everything. Each rom that has a2sd or what ever has different scripts.
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Thanks. Based on this I think I'll be moving over to an a2sd rom soon.

Don't use a2sd+ , at least from my experience (at using and flashing all possible roms..Sense roms that is) D2SD (aka D2ext) is by far the best and most stable/fastest depending on your SD card It actually (kinda) adds the ext partition to your internal mem,so you don't have to have an app to check the status and info of your ext/a2sd parition

aca85 said:
Don't use a2sd+ , at least from my experience (at using and flashing all possible roms..Sense roms that is) D2SD (aka D2ext) is by far the best and most stable/fastest depending on your SD card It actually (kinda) adds the ext partition to your internal mem,so you don't have to have an app to check the status and info of your ext/a2sd parition
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Hummmm... sounds interesting.
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Currently running iNsertCoinHD Data++ and that's quite fantastic
Really smooth experience...

cgmorris89 said:
Currently running iNsertCoinHD Data++ and that's quite fantastic
Really smooth experience...
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But would you say it's faster than A2SD?
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Yeah I'd say so...can't be certain though, its all quite relative isn't it?
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rom with more space

hi everyone, a friend of mine has a desire (stock rom) and always the problem that the internal capacity is full. now we are looming for a stable rom which basicly has sd card limit for apps and is not restricted to the intetnal one.
ive read quite a lot here and lokked at some roms and have some favorites, but i would like to get some input from actual desire users what rom they use and how the situation is with the app storage space.
so what rom do you use?
and hows the app storage situation with the rom?
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grognaz said:
so what rom do you use?
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you're going to get confusing answers from this question in my opinion, though you could try here. if you want stability at the moment stick with GB roms.
best bet would be to browse through a few in the development section, see what your friend wants, rather than what other people tell you is the BEST ROM EVER
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and hows the app storage situation with the rom?
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virtually all of them will have raised the limit on app storage using various scripts, which is one of the main reasons of custom roms on desire in the first place
each rom will have their own requirements, but generally need an sd-ext partition (use 4ext recovery or gparted) and/or a hboot partition table.
i've always found this guide useful in understanding root/memory stuff.

grognaz said:
hi everyone, a friend of mine has a desire (stock rom) and always the problem that the internal capacity is full. now we are looming for a stable rom which basicly has sd card limit for apps and is not restricted to the intetnal one.
ive read quite a lot here and lokked at some roms and have some favorites, but i would like to get some input from actual desire users what rom they use and how the situation is with the app storage space.
so what rom do you use?
and hows the app storage situation with the rom?
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Supernova,by Droidzone, just do a 2gig ext4 partition and you will have 2gig of internal memory.
This Rom is base on stock 2.3 and is tweak for the better. Super smooth and your low memory days are over. Don' t take my word try it yourself

my HTC Desire runs actually BCM cyanogenmod9 with a data++ hboot
Anyway, you could get free space without changing rom and avoid using sd card ext (which might introduce some lags), by flashing the bravo Sense hboot (saving 70MB and keeping HTC Desire's stock rom).
That's my point, but it depends on your friend's rom preferences

thanks all for the feedback, actually i looked yesterday at some roms and supernova was one of the roms i considered since its aosp based, the other would be mildwild which is cm7 based, i guess i will just add my friend what suits her better and then go with that.
any bugs or other issues i should be aware with theae roms?
oh and i think the device has 5.11....radio i think. will that cause problems?
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I just converted to mildwild 4.1.9 and can vouch for it being very impressive. I have setcpu app on it and now have 75% battery at the end of the day. I have a 16GB SD card and loads of storage so far, but I must say I am more disciplined with what I install now, as I used to gum it up with anything and everything! Mine is a desire GSM btw.
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supernova was one of the roms i considered since its aosp based
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It's not AOSP. But Stock HTC Sense with scripts and some mods.

i noticed and im not to impressed by it but mildwild 5 got bootloops. gona try 4.9 or a pure cm rom in the coming days
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grognaz said:
i noticed and im not to impressed by it but mildwild 5 got bootloops. gona try 4.9 or a pure cm rom in the coming days
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Oxygen rom is worth a look. AOSP rom that is closest to stock Gingerbread that you'll gonna get for desire. Just use the custom hboot for it found in http://alpharev.nl. (s-off required) and EXT partition on the sd card and it should give you one of the most stable rom with decent space for your apps.
check http://oxygen.im to get the rom.

iv been using mildwild oxygen the past week and got no complaints, i used runnymede aio as my "stock" rom and always went back to it lol but i honestly cant see myself going back this time
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thnaks a lot for the feedback,
we tried mildwild oxygene but after one day and 5 self reboots its clear this is not stable at all.
now i have an other question, i flashed cm 7.2 with full wipe but the device always booted/rebooted into recovery... what can be the cause of that? mithg we have some partitioning problem here?
or something else thats wrong?
i partitioned the sd card with the cwm (1gb ext, 32mb swap) that gets installed with rom manager (5.0.2 or so i think).
if this is the problem, would be awesome to get a link to what we need to make cm 7.2 work. thanks.

lol mildwild oxygen not stable? probably 1 of the top 3 most stable roms iv used. using it now, not 1 single problem.
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jmcclue said:
lol mildwild oxygen not stable? probably 1 of the top 3 most stable roms iv used. using it now, not 1 single problem.
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well thats nice for you, but my friend got lots of reboots so i dont consider this stable at all and we need to try somethig else.
i guess its like oc/uc nor everything works for every device.

that is nice for me. also could have something to do with that rom manager and partitioning ur sdcard with that crap cwm
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jmcclue said:
that is nice for me. also could have something to do with that rom manager and partitioning ur sdcard with that crap cwm
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maybe you could mention something better instead of just calling cwm crap?

well maybe if u wasnt so cheeky i would of. cwm is known to make bad partitions so maybe try 4ext recovery or gparted to partition. i use 1gb ext4 and rest fat32 (no swap) with mildwild oxygen and iv had no problems so maybe try 4ext recovery
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thanks for the information, i will check the partitions today with gparted and probably reformat. i created a 32m swap partition and i dont know if cwm created a ext3 or ext4 partition so that might be the problem...
i did not intend to be "cheeky" (and not sure if i understand it correctly, sometimes im getting a bit upset when people post something like: " it works for me." and do not think about adding some info what could be different:O

if ur gona use mildwild oxygen i dont think u will need a swap size when u partition sdcard, just do a 1gb ext4 or 1.5gb max and the rest fat32
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Hi
new ICS 4.0.4 by sandvold is very smooth and you can have alot of internal memory.

eddiehk6 said:
you're going to get confusing answers from this question in my opinion, though you could try here. if you want stability at the moment stick with GB roms.
best bet would be to browse through a few in the development section, see what your friend wants, rather than what other people tell you is the BEST ROM EVER
virtually all of them will have raised the limit on app storage using various scripts, which is one of the main reasons of custom roms on desire in the first place
each rom will have their own requirements, but generally need an sd-ext partition (use 4ext recovery or gparted) and/or a hboot partition table.
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I am using MW based on Oxygen v4 with a SD-EXT partition of 1GB and set-up with APPS+DATA to SD-EXT. Don't think I am close to running out of space. I have 104 apps installed including the big ones like Google+/Skype/etc.
Check out this thread with practically links to every ROM available for desire. I usually scour this link to check for updates.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809328
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Apps on sd card for good

Hi guys i have rom manager pro i want to partition my sdcard to allow me install apps on it but i have a limit of 512MB.
the thing is i want to know all about creating the partition, the benefits and all the technical stuff like swap size and all that and how safe my apps are if i flash diffrent roms cos am quite tired of having to re-install apps every time i test a rom. also is there any way of increasing the partition size, and again is it all apps that can go there
!I REALLY NEED HELP!:crying:
OH BY THE WAY AM ON GEN Y VISIONX B5 AND I DONT THINK I WILL BE CHANGING MY MIND ON THE ROM ANY TIME !PROBLY UNTILL VIRTUOUS INFINITY GETS BETTER................. COS THE NEW ONE IS VEEERRRYY SLOW ON THE G2
IF MY QUESTION GIVES YOU AN ANSWER HIT THANKS BROOOOO. I NEED IT

ANY ONE PLLLSSSSSSSS NEED HELP NOOOOOWWWWW oh plsssss HEEEEEEEELPPPPPP

No help yet that's strange
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.....rom manager and clockwork recovery aren't very good for the g2, I suggest switching to 4ext recovery and don't use rom manager if you don't know how to use the recovery
in which every recovery you use there is an option to partition sd card. 512mb is rather small unless you have a g1. usually want a ext4 partition larger than internal memory, but use what works for you
linux swap is often a bad idea unless you do a lot of multitasking with sense roms, even then I feel it isn't a performance boost in most occasions but rather it slows the phone
having your apps on your ext partition won't mean the apps reappear @ a new rom flash, it doesn't work this way. and what you said was a bit contridicing as you won't be changing roms but you want apps on sd to keep them when you do? well either way that isn't the point of a2ext
and as a side note you would have found all this info plus more with a little searching
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I do have an 8gb sdcard so now will 4ext. Help with that space or my SD space is too small for bigger partitions any way I will google some stuff and see how it works
Thanks man
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Will try 4ext recovery
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Ext of SD card

Do you have to ext your SD card in order to put apps on to it? I don't really want to partition my SD card tho!!
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most custom roms require an ext partition to work, read the first post requirements for each rom, I'm assuming you're already rooted?
i don't know why you don't want to partition your sd card though...it's not very difficult. use gparted or 4ext recovery only (NOT minitool partition wizard, rom manager or clockworkmod recovery). search for guides.
you may need to flash a different script to move apps to sd-ext, but again this depends on the rom as many have it built in.

No I would if I had a bigger SD card coz I only have a 2gb one and my parents refuse to buy me a 32gb one so yea......
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boo97 said:
No I would if I had a bigger SD card coz I only have a 2gb one and my parents refuse to buy me a 32gb one so yea......
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oh didn't realise the situation. how about 4, 8 or 16gb as compromise? i'm holding off a 32gb myself until they become much cheaper.
or try dgb rom as i think it's designed on purpose without an ext partition. you would need to be s-off with custom hboot to make the most of it.

Yes maybe and I am already running a ROM which is alright for the moment but I really want runny ROM but obviously that needs an ext. I am running hiapk sensefun ROM by djroobs which I am happy with at the moment. I will probably wait until they become cheaper as well
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Yh ul need a bigger sdcard for runny rom, it needs 1gb ext 4 partition on ur sdcard and the rom itself from what i remember is 500mb (its huge)
Like eddie says, Even if u try get ur parents to buy ya a 4gb sdcard, they cheap enough and 4gb is plenty if u ask me
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Thanks guys I will give it a crack or just try and buy it myself. Thing is tho atleast 500 mb of my SD is music and that's not all of the music I want LOL
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I posted in your other thread, but Oxygen is a tiny GB rom with lots of room left for your apps.
http://download.oxygen.im/roms/

arkpark said:
I posted in your other thread, but Oxygen is a tiny GB rom with lots of room left for your apps.
Yep, I ran Oxygen for a long time with a small 2 gb card and it worked just fine. To be fair 4, 8 are now dead cheap and it will allow you to run the heavier roms that need 1gb ext.
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eddiehk6 said:
(NOT minitool partition wizard, rom manager or clockworkmod recovery). search for guides.
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sorry, But why not used that,
i read many threads but i dont undestand why.

htc-desire5 said:
sorry, But why not used that,
i read many threads but i dont undestand why.
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Because they don't make working partitions. Compatibility issues, i think.