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Is it better to gain temp root before the ota or after or does it even matter either way? Cause right now I'm have not updated my phone eventhough its asking me too.
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You realize we have perm root now, right?
Yeah but I thought you had to gain temp root first in order to gain perm root.
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You can get perm root without updating. If you plan on flashing a rom it doesnt matter. If your going to stay stock then i would update first.
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Actually u can perm root with or without the ota update. It's win,win either way.
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Thank you all for the replies, its been much appreciated! Now moving forward on with rooting, as soon as my buddy gets his G2.
Now one more question haha...... rage or visionaryr14 method?
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I used visionary 11& it worked flawlessly. As for rage,I couldn't tell u. I haven't tried that method yet.
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mjybarr said:
Now one more question haha...... rage or visionaryr14 method?
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If you're comfortable with adb then I highly recommend rage, since you're in control over exactly what steps you're doing. If adb freaks you out then probably best to stick with Visionary.
I say this a lot but use the rage method! I honestly feel if you cant get that method to work you shouldnt be rooting your phone. Rage method is only a total of about 6 lines to enter
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shortlived said:
I say this a lot but use the rage method! I honestly feel if you cant get that method to work you shouldnt be rooting your phone. Rage method is only a total of about 6 lines to enter
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Yeah I feel comfortable using adb, I just wanted to see what method you all using and how successful each method is. I have been looking at rage and it seems to be pretty easy, along with gfree.
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I now would recomend gfree as it gives the real deal. Its actually easier then the rage method and about as 1 click as it gets. I have always been a fan of doing it myself but after reading the wiki and seeing exactly what gfree does... its a very safe option imho.
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shortlived said:
I now would recomend gfree as it gives the real deal. Its actually easier then the rage method and about as 1 click as it gets. I have always been a fan of doing it myself but after reading the wiki and seeing exactly what gfree does... its a very safe option imho.
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gfree isn't anything to do with rooting though, that's doing the S-OFF, SIM unlock etc.
You still need to get temp root before you run gfree. So you can either use Visonary or rage.
I stand corrected. I already had root so i skipped that part. Oh well.
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steviewevie said:
gfree isn't anything to do with rooting though, that's doing the S-OFF, SIM unlock etc.
You still need to get temp root before you run gfree. So you can either use Visonary or rage.
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Not so. Gfree is about radio s-off, which is a better, "deeper" permaroot then the earlier method. It makes the hacked up engineering hboot unnecessary (unless you want fastboot). And is safer imo. Even if you were going to use the engineering hboot i'd use gfree first as its "true" permaroot and won't lock you out of your phone if you overwrite hboot with the stock version.
Use gfree, THEN clockwork recovery and backup your phone. Then do hboot if you want.
Just my opinion.
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VValdo said:
Not so. Gfree is about radio s-off, which is a better, "deeper" permaroot then the earlier method. It makes the hacked up engineering hboot unnecessary (unless you want fastboot). And is safer imo. Even if you were going to use the engineering hboot i'd use gfree first as its "true" permaroot and won't lock you out of your phone if you overwrite hboot with the stock version.
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gfree doesn't have anything to do with rooting. Yes, it gives you radio S-OFF, but if you have temp root and run gfree, then you still have temp root. You need to either run Visionary again or run the "root" script from the rage stuff to give you permaroot. Or start with permaroot and then run gfree.
gfree is not "true" permaroot, it's "true" S-OFF.
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gfree doesn't have anything to do with rooting. Yes, it gives you radio S-OFF, but if you have temp root and run gfree, then you still have temp root. You need to either run Visionary again or run the "root" script from the rage stuff to give you permaroot. Or start with permaroot and then run gfree.
gfree is not "true" permaroot, it's "true" S-OFF.
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You're right. I meant to say that it facilities permanent root better than the hboot alternative does. You still need to copy the su and Superuser.apk using either method, but if your plan is to shut off the r-o emmc, do it with gfree.
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Ok so all I want to do is remove my unrevoked rooting from my phone. I did the one click, not the forever. Can anyone help me remove it? I have all stock roms. Just did unrevoked to add the wireless teetering. THANK YOU
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si_sedan07 said:
Ok so all I want to do is remove my unrevoked rooting from my phone. I did the one click, not the forever. Can anyone help me remove it? I have all stock roms. Just did unrevoked to add the wireless teetering. THANK YOU
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its real easy flash the unrevoked s-on tool untill the bootloader says s-on it may take more than one time it may not after that flash the ruu with the build that came with your phone
So I download the file to my card then what? I'm lost here sorry
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Unrevoked 3.21/3.22 automatically runs Unrevoked Forever after the rooting is done (this is the very last step of the process before your phone boots up). That's why you end up getting NAND unlocked (S-OFF).
So you are looking to go back to stock and do not want to run Wireless Tethering anymore yes?
Download the S-ON tool and place it on the root of your SDcard (not in any folders). Go into recovery and flash the S-ON file and it hopefully should make your phone S-ON again.
Thank you. I'll try that! I'll let you know.
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So it flashed the s-on and no luck. Done it twice ashtray and no luck. Should I keep trying?
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http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/forever
From the unrevoked forever wiki page, it says to download the s-on.zip and flash it. If its not working, try re-downloading another unrevoked-forever-son.zip file and try again, otherwise I'm not sure what else to tell you, sorry.
[GUIDE] How to Unroot the EVO in 2 STEPS
This unroot guide written by djR3Z says to keep trying until it works.
Do you have radio version 2.15.00.11.19? I know you cannot S-OFF while on this radio version, so maybe you cannot S-ON either.
You will need to downgrade the radio first to 2.15.00.09.01. My real suggestion is to flash the mtd-eng.img hack, RUU back to 3.30, S-ON, RUU to 3.70.
I just finished! Had to flash a recovered rom. Stock rom that is. It was quite the process but I did it! Thanks for the help everyone!
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Well I just got my g2 today and I want too root this sucker. Unfortunatly when I turned on my pc my computer crashed. So I is there a way to root it without a pc? I have wifi calling and tethering so I guess I have the ota.
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Alex530 said:
Well I just got my g2 today and I want too root this sucker. Unfortunatly when I turned on my pc my computer crashed. So I is there a way to root it without a pc? I have wifi calling and tethering so I guess I have the ota.
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I'm not so sure you can, mainly because as part of the rooting process you need to push some system files. If it's not rooted, a solution like root explorer or some su-enabled file browser obviously won't work...
I've only had mine for a couple days so I'm no expert though
Not possible I think. Whatever you do don't even try visionary perm root. Temp root is okay though.
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Ok. Got my pc up n running. Do I use the rage method to root my ota g2?
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Alex530 said:
Well I just got my g2 today and I want too root this sucker. Unfortunatly when I turned on my pc my computer crashed. So I is there a way to root it without a pc? I have wifi calling and tethering so I guess I have the ota.
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I did perm root w/o using computer(just watched the youtube video) visionary r12 then watched the video using terminal emulator and that's it I forgot the youtube link I'm gonna search it so u can root
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Alex530 said:
Ok. Got my pc up n running. Do I use the rage method to root my ota g2?
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I recommend you use the method in the Wiki (which does use rage, along with gfree). It's the most up-to-date and safest (i.e. least chance of brick/semi-brick) method.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...cess_.28Permanent_Root_.2F_.22Permaroot.22.29
steviewevie said:
I recommend you use the method in the Wiki (which does use rage, along with gfree). It's the most up-to-date and safest (i.e. least chance of brick/semi-brick) method.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...cess_.28Permanent_Root_.2F_.22Permaroot.22.29
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I have a question. For the GFree method, do I need to temproot via Visionary first? Or can I just use gFree directly from stock?
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GoCkillaz said:
I have a question. For the GFree method, do I need to temproot via Visionary first? Or can I just use gFree directly from stock?
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You needto run gfree as root, so temp root is required as a minimum. Whether you get that from Visionary or rage is up to you.
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Well I'm trying to root using gfree and its not working. I either get adb permission denied or no such file or directory. Any ideas?
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i did perm root via visionary r12.. im a bit of a noob so does this mean i have s-off or not?
rumitg2 said:
i did perm root via visionary r12.. im a bit of a noob so does this mean i have s-off or not?
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Power the phone off and press the power button and down on the voulme button at the same time. Wait till it gets you to the recovery? And you'll see at the top if it S-on your not permarooted. If it says S-off you are.
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search "blackprince how to root your G2" on youtube. Follow everything the dude does in the video and you should be good to go. That's what I followed, and I got s-off, but not gfree. I did it the first try withing half an hour. Good luck, sir.
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That blackprince video is using an old method though. The most up-to-date method, and far safer, is the gfree method described in the Wiki - http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...cess_.28Permanent_Root_.2F_.22Permaroot.22.29
If you already have used that video to root the phone, you should still use gfree to get full radio S-OFF, because it has more options from getting out of bad situations - see http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...Phone.2C_Set_SuperCID.2C_and_Turn_Radio_S-OFF
i unrooted but i still have s off i first rooted using gfree and i used the unlockr method but i still have s off is the another way
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so i have rooted and unrooted about 5 times and i have gotten no where im not sure what i should do any advice
cudahy_boy said:
i unrooted but i still have s off i first rooted using gfree and i used the unlockr method but i still have s off is the another way
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...sion#Rooting_the_Vision_.28G2.2FDZ.29_and_DHD
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ive been there plenty of times that does help
cudahy_boy said:
ive been there plenty of times that does help
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gfree does it all ... if you follow the guide you'll be rooted, with s-off, eng-hboot, etc. As free as your phone can get.
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sorry i meant to say doesnt help i want to unroot and get s on but when i use the hex edit method i guess i get unroot and s off still how would i do it through gfree
why do you want to unroot if I may ask?
i just got the phone on friday and i have a loose hinge
If you have S-OFF via gfree, then on the phone you need to run "./gfree -s on" (from the directory where gfree is stored) to get S-ON again.
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thanks i temp rooted via rage then i s on rebooted and no super user and s was on perfect so now im going to re root and and my gfree backup to revert easily i hope
I used g free method to root my g2 and was wondering what steps I need to follow to unroot my phone and put -on back on.
I'm selling my g2 today so I need to put everything back to stock. And there was a thread using pc10img but when I used that before it put stock rom and s was still off.
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In gfree there is a way to put s-on back using gfree I forgot where but check one of the gfree threads
Search on google wiki.cyanogen there's a lot of updated method posted up in there
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I might be totally missing something here... but wouldn't an "easy" method to unroot just be to flash the new stock ROM in it's "pure" form? I saw the sticky topic warning users against flashing the leaked OTA as it would turn S-ON and roll everything back to stock, thus making it a real pain in the $%@! to root again. (If I'm off-base, then please feel free to educate my cracker ass)
bump on this as well, @eunkipark92, have you had any luck on putting s-on again?? i`m having the same problem...have you tried doing the OTA thing ? if you did, did it make it s-on???
check this out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=835971 thank him . hope this helps