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[Q] Unrooted: Why still S-OFF?

I just unrooted my phone by running the RUU update for 3.29.xxx and at bootloader screen, it is still showing S-OFF. Shouldn't it be S-ON? I'd appreciate some feedback as I am heading back to the sprint store and want to be sure the phone is completely unrooted. I recall the other time I ran this same procedure, it went back to S-ON.
TIA

You need to flash the Unrevoked s-on tool. It can be found in several unrooting threads.
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TheMagicalSock said:
You need to flash the Unrevoked s-on tool. It can be found in several unrooting threads.
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Thanks. I suspect it was the tool I used to root that had the Unrevoked component (never had this problem first time around); should've read the fine print...
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so you need to re-root (maybe with unrevoked even) and then flash the s-on tool through recovery. it can be found in the unrevoked wiki. after that, then run the ruu.

dkdude36 said:
so you need to re-root (maybe with unrevoked even) and then flash the s-on tool through recovery. it can be found in the unrevoked wiki. after that, then run the ruu.
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Yup.... exactly. Thanks.....highly appreciated. I guess this explains why most prefer not to use the Unrevoked method.
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glad i could help. another reason people dont like unrevoked is it is now outdated. if you run it with the new protected hboot 2.02, you will get screwed pretty bad.
it used to save people hours of struggle, now it kills ruthlessly (haha)

Just flash this as PC36IMG.zip:
http://goo-inside.me/evo/stock/RUU_...0.09.01_NV_1.77_003_release_154209_signed.zip

drmacinyasha said:
Just flash this as PC36IMG.zip:
http://goo-inside.me/evo/stock/RUU_...0.09.01_NV_1.77_003_release_154209_signed.zip
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Does this downgrade HBOOT to .76.2000? If not, please list the exact steps + files to use. I have copies of Hboot_0.76.2000.zip and Hboot_2.02.0001-Patch but not sure of the other in which to flash them.
Thanks.
EDIT: I was able to get back S-ON, although I observed that bootloader doesn't show the updated value after flashing the unrevoked-s-on zip; not until you attempt to flash the stock PC36IMG file. The above RUU allowed me complete the unrooting process (now with hboot 2.02).
I guess the other pressing question is why do I need hboot 2.02 and not .93 or .76.2000?

[Q] NewB needs Help installing Rom =(

Ok.. so I'm absolutely new to this rooting and flashing roms and stuff. I want to install the SkyRaider 4.0 ROM. I believe the first step I need to do before I can install this ROM is to root my phone? Do I do this through Unrevoked or through ADB??? Like in this link? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=709220 . I checked the WIKI for DInc and it doesn't mention anything about ADB.. So do I need to do that??
So lost. Thanks so much for your help guys

Use the unrevoked program, its so simple, literally one click. Once you have root you'll want to make a backup in recovery before you flash skyraider.
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k_nivesout said:
Use the unrevoked program, its so simple, literally one click. Once you have root you'll want to make a backup in recovery before you flash skyraider.
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Thanks. So what's up with ADB? Will I need it at all? Do I need to follow the guide as in the link I posted above?

First root using the unrevoked program as mentioned above. Then post back for more help on the ROM flashing.

I wouldn't worry about adb right now. Don't need to use it for rom, kernel, radio flashing.
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Honestly, I've never even had to use ADB. Definitely not required. It's nice to have sometimes. But usually something like root explorer will suffice.
*should have refreshed first.
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Gotcha. So what's the diff between Unrevoked 3 and unrevoked forever? http://unrevoked.com/#inc

Unrevoked forever gives you permanent root. That is definitely the way to go, and the best way to get your ROM successfully flashed. ( And stay that way ).

Also let's you flash unsigned files in hboot, like radios and splash screens.
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Just thought I'd add that you can also go back to stock S-ON later on if needed (warranty replacement, etc).
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k_nivesout said:
Just thought I'd add that you can also go back to stock S-ON later on if needed (warranty replacement, etc).
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And in case he doesn't know what S-ON and S-OFF means, it refers to the state of the security "flag" on your device. With S-OFF, your warranty is void, however you can turn the security back on as well if you need to take it into verizon or something.. Using unrevoked forever, it will turn S-ON to S-OFF.

Can SkyRaider work with S-ON? aka without dealing with Unrevoked Forever at the moment?

No, I don't believe it will. Is there a reason not to do unrevoked forever? It take less than 5 minutes to complete

wurzzz said:
Can SkyRaider work with S-ON? aka without dealing with Unrevoked Forever at the moment?
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You should be able to. S-OFF is the way to go through, you can still revert S-ON later.
The whole "security" title it has is meaningless against actually security of your phone, with S-OFF you're more free to tweak your phone.

wurzzz said:
Gotcha. So what's the diff between Unrevoked 3 and unrevoked forever? http://unrevoked.com/#inc
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Unrevoked for the Inc comes with Forever already, hence S-off
Hope this helps

xirftwx said:
No, I don't believe it will. Is there a reason not to do unrevoked forever? It take less than 5 minutes to complete
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S-OFF is not required to flash ROMs. Its required for radio flashing and splash screen changing though.
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Blah12543 said:
S-OFF is not required to flash ROMs. Its required for radio flashing and splash screen changing though.
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I see, but I hadn't done unrevoked forever (yet I still had root) and flashed over my first ROM... didn't have much luck. It ended up reverting to stock everything automatically, which was really strange. Haven't had any problems since S-OFF though.

Well, I did both unrevoked3 and forever in the end. Got it up and running with skyraider now =) thanks for all your help guys!

xirftwx said:
I see, but I hadn't done unrevoked forever (yet I still had root) and flashed over my first ROM... didn't have much luck. It ended up reverting to stock everything automatically, which was really strange. Haven't had any problems since S-OFF though.
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Huh, thats odd. I was rooted and S-ON when I first did my starter ROM: SkyRaider 2.something lol. Didn't encounter any problems except for wonky audio with flash, but that was an easy fix. That was back when stock Incs were rockin' Eclair lol... Sorry bout my off topic reminiscing :S
I'm glad you got everything running good OP! Enjoy the wonderful world of the rooted Incredible!
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Yeah, S-OFF isn't required for ROM's. I flashed many ROM's before S-OFF was even out for the incredible. Back in the 2.1 days

[Q] Help!!!! phone is on v2.3.3 with S-OFF NEED to turn S-ON

I tried to root my husbands htc evo phone but it was interrupted and was not able to try again. He was able to update the software when sprint sent it out but somehow when I went into his bootloader it has S-OFF. I need to return the phone to sprint. Is there any way I can turn S-ON again?

How were u trying to root? Which process?
Taking my experience into account:
Ive been rooted with unrEVOked...and unrooted using the Stock RUU zip. BUT....prior to that...S-on needs to be recovered. The process in which Ive used was following the enclosed link.
Hope it helps...good luck.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=780141

tgeigel said:
I tried to root my husbands htc evo phone but it was interrupted and was not able to try again. He was able to update the software when sprint sent it out but somehow when I went into his bootloader it has S-OFF. I need to return the phone to sprint. Is there any way I can turn S-ON again?
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If it is S-OFF, just run a stock RUU EXE file... 3.70 seems to work just fine. it will return the device to complete stock, including the bootloader for 3.70 release/ship.

The only way to get s-off to s-on is to flash the unrevoked s-on tool. You can run the RUU all you want and return the partitions to stock, s will still remain off. Well it should anyhow, strange things happen sometimes...
That link in the second post gives you both. Flash s-on then flash the RUU, dont go the other way around...

I was rooting using unrevoked but somehow it got interrupted and didn't finish the process. This was before he update his phone
Even though the phone has the updated software?
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tgeigel said:
I was rooting using unrevoked but somehow it got interrupted and didn't finish the process. This was before he update his phone
Even though the phone has the updated software?
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Is the phone stock currently? If so just flash the s-on tool, it should work (though I havent heard anyone attempting this yet). If you need to return partitions to stock or an older version of android then run the RUU.

also PM a Mod and ask them to move this to Q please, only post developed work in the DEVELOPMENT section...

tgeigel said:
I was rooting using unrevoked but somehow it got interrupted and didn't finish the process. This was before he update his phone
Even though the phone has the updated software?
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Did the update change the Hboot version from 2.10 to 2.16?
Power off the phone, hold Vol Down and Power and wait for Bootloader to run to see which version is on the device.

evomattnc said:
The only way to get s-off to s-on is to flash the unrevoked s-on tool. You can run the RUU all you want and return the partitions to stock, s will still remain off. Well it should anyhow, strange things happen sometimes...
That link in the second post gives you both. Flash s-on then flash the RUU, dont go the other way around...
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This is wrong. I was S-OFF since June of 2010 when I bought it and rooted, I just recently had to return my device and get it swapped. I simply ran the RUU Exe, I then made sure to check because I didn't want to return it with S-OFF, and it was S-ON. I didn't run any S-ON Tool or anything else other than the RUU Exe.

Unknownforce said:
This is wrong. I was S-OFF since June of 2010 when I bought it and rooted, I just recently had to return my device and get it swapped. I simply ran the RUU Exe, I then made sure to check because I didn't want to return it with S-OFF, and it was S-ON. I didn't run any S-ON Tool or anything else other than the RUU Exe.
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Thanks. Plz move this thread to QA sorry I posted in the wrong thread.
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I tried to run the s-on tool but it says unsupported radio and it aborts
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Had the same problem so i just downgraded the radio but i need help because i turned s-on before installing stock rom and now i dont have a rom at all installed and i need to get it back to stock by today :0

BLiizz said:
Had the same problem so i just downgraded the radio but i need help because i turned s-on before installing stock rom and now i dont have a rom at all installed and i need to get it back to stock by today :0
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You tried just resetting the phone? Like a data factory reset.
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Run the ruu now...
BLiizz said:
Had the same problem so i just downgraded the radio but i need help because i turned s-on before installing stock rom and now i dont have a rom at all installed and i need to get it back to stock by today :0
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You get yours fixed t geigel?
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You tried just resetting the phone? Like a data factory reset.
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Youre wrong...unless you upgraded your hboot with the ruu. We usually use the ruu for your hboot...I need you to talk less now...
Unknownforce said:
This is wrong. I was S-OFF since June of 2010 when I bought it and rooted, I just recently had to return my device and get it swapped. I simply ran the RUU Exe, I then made sure to check because I didn't want to return it with S-OFF, and it was S-ON. I didn't run any S-ON Tool or anything else other than the RUU Exe.
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evomattnc said:
You get yours fixed t geigel?
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No my computer was not reading my phone properly and it wasn't downloading the driver either. So I just decided to send the phone back to sprint with the s-off. I ran the ruu and it didn't connect to my phone
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ok so i have my s-on and i ran the pc36img and my phone is still rooted am i doing something wrong i need to take it back to the store so i can get my 3d today

I have run the stock ruu on my phone and it unrooted and was back to S-on with no problem.
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Youre wrong...unless you upgraded your hboot with the ruu. We usually use the ruu for your hboot...I need you to talk less now...
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"Hell I don't know anymore"

Unknownforce said:
This is wrong. I was S-OFF since June of 2010 when I bought it and rooted, I just recently had to return my device and get it swapped. I simply ran the RUU Exe, I then made sure to check because I didn't want to return it with S-OFF, and it was S-ON. I didn't run any S-ON Tool or anything else other than the RUU Exe.
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The reason yours switched to s-on is because the root method you used included the ENG bootloader. If the root method included unrevoked forever then the only way to achieve s-on is with the s-on tool. So no, he wasn't wrong he could have been more thorough in his explination that's all.
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[Q] UNROOTING_Evo 4g for service

ok guys I have tried just about all threads and searches,I been at this since 9 am and still no results.I need to take my phone in so I need the S-on,I was on Synergy Rom tried to use unrevoked forever which didnt work I was on amon ra recovery but switched to clockwork where I had backups and tried unrevoked forever and still no S-on, My software info is as follows : baseband:2.15.00.05.02
software #3.29.651.5 and pri version is 2.15_003 : My hboot is 0.97.0000, I unrooted actuallly a couple of times and never had this problem followed the directions before and they worked to perfection.I believe the problems exist with my radio # as this is the error that my recovery is giving me : stating unsupported radio version .Any help please thank you

Downgrade your radio to an unrevoked compatible version. Then flash unrevoked forever. Should be that simple.
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Try downgrading your radio first to the version that came with 3.29 so it matches the software. Don't worry about the S-ON. Leave it off that way when u take it in even if anyone applies some sort of update you will still be good. Also, did you use unrevoked originally to obtain s-off?

Do Flash only the radio ? Meaning I found the correct radio do I have to worry about my wimax keys or does in come with the radio I'll be flashing ?

1) You're trying to get it s-on, but you're flashing unrevoked forever. Unrevoked forever gives you s-off, you'd need the s-on tool instead.
2) Sprint will service your phone if it is s-off, so leave it off to keep the possibility of rooting open. If the store tells you otherwise, tell them to double check Sprint's policy.
3) You will however need to flash it back to stock unrooted. Run an RUU from your computer or as a PC36IMG through your bootloader to achieve this.
Bonus - Even if your phone has to be replaced, hopefully Sprint/HTC/whoever won't flash it back to s-on and someone on xda will get lucky and get your s-off refurb. Either way I wouldn't bother with the s-on tool, just run the RUU and you'll be set.
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jayo1978 said:
Do Flash only the radio ? Meaning I found the correct radio do I have to worry about my wimax keys or does in come with the radio I'll be flashing ?
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Just flash the stand alone radio. Not a combo with the wimax pri and NV. Then unrevoked forever will work.
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plainjane said:
1) You're trying to get it s-on, but you're flashing unrevoked forever. Unrevoked forever gives you s-off, you'd need the s-on tool instead.
2) Sprint will service your phone if it is s-off, so leave it off to keep the possibility of rooting open. If the store tells you otherwise, tell them to double check Sprint's policy.
3) You will however need to flash it back to stock unrooted. Run an RUU from your computer or as a PC36IMG through your bootloader to achieve this.
Bonus - Even if your phone has to be replaced, hopefully Sprint/HTC/whoever won't flash it back to s-on and someone on xda will get lucky and get your s-off refurb. Either way I wouldn't bother with the s-on tool, just run the RUU and you'll be set.
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Why did you take the time to write out a long reply when you clearly didn't read his entire post. He has the gingerbread radio. He can't use the s-on tool until he downgrades to a compatible radio.
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Rem3Dy said:
Why did you take the time to write out a long reply when you clearly didn't read his entire post. He has the gingerbread radio. He can't use the s-on tool until he downgrades to a compatible radio.
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He is saying to leave S-Off, just RUU so it will be stock unrooted. Leaving it S-Off so that if some poor chap receives the phone refurbished, he won't have to worry if it is Gingerbread unrootable, as it is S-Off.

How to restore Nandroid backup?

The kicker is, i lost root on my phone... no Recovery.. i can get into HBoot...
My phone is always stuck on reboot loop.. theres a few odd times where it makes it into OS but then reboots again.
So I was going to my old files and noticed that I still have my Nandroid backup, so if i put this back onto my phone, will it be saved?
I cant even get it too root without the phone rebooting..

What root method did you use? What hboot do you have? Are you still s-off? What were you running prior to this happening like rom ect ? Have you tried a RUU yet? This type of information can help people try to figure out how to fix it
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sorry..
I unrooted and put back the stock RUU from sprint..
S-ON
Hboot 2.16.0001
Radio 2.15.00.0808
Date: Mar 8 2011 17:02:15
When I first rooted, I used revolutionary-0.4pre4. then i used unrevoked forever s-on.
I wanted to unroot and start everything over.. but i guess i messed something up...

gd6noob said:
sorry..
I unrooted and put back the stock RUU from sprint..
S-ON
Hboot 2.16.0001
Radio 2.15.00.0808
Date: Mar 8 2011 17:02:15
When I first rooted, I used revolutionary-0.4pre4. then i used unrevoked forever s-on.
I wanted to unroot and start everything over.. but i guess i messed something up...
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You are unrooted.
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gd6noob said:
sorry..
I unrooted and put back the stock RUU from sprint..
S-ON
Hboot 2.16.0001
Radio 2.15.00.0808
Date: Mar 8 2011 17:02:15
When I first rooted, I used revolutionary-0.4pre4. then i used unrevoked forever s-on.
I wanted to unroot and start everything over.. but i guess i messed something up...
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Since revolutionary only requires the phone to be in fastboot to s-off it. Plug your phone into your computer install the required drivers and run revolutionary program it should read your device and precede from there by typing your beta key from the website and installing a recovery from the revolutionary program. Then wipe and flash a custom rom
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the thing is that my phone is stuck on a boot loop...

gd6noob said:
the thing is that my phone is stuck on a boot loop...
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If you can get into fastboot in the bootloader you might be able to s-off with revolutionary. Just have to hope the program can find the device in fastboot first. Have you tried running the RUU again?
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since the phone was stuck in the boot loop, i kinda left it alone for few months.. i dugged it back out and remember about this issue...
So does the phone need to boot all the way into the OS for s-off to work or it might work in hboot?
i can get into hboot no problem...

evo4gnoob said:
If you can get into fastboot in the bootloader you might be able to s-off with revolutionary. Just have to hope the program can find the device in fastboot first. Have you tried running the RUU again?
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which RUU you recommed?
do you have a list of the programs i need to try and get s-off again?

I installed the HTC drivers, have the phone in hboot (fastboot USB).. open the revolutionary program and its just "Waiting for device" and its been 20mins
Do I need to install the Android SDK

I think you do, I believe most root methods use a combination of adb and fastboot. After you install it, make sure you're running the root method from the same directory as adb.exe and fastboot.exe are in (should be platform-tools).

i have places the adb.exe and fastboot.exe in the same directory as revolutionary but it still waiting for device...

gd6noob said:
i have places the adb.exe and fastboot.exe in the same directory as revolutionary but it still waiting for device...
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unplugg your phone go to menu settings applications make sure unknown sources is checked then go to developement and make sure us debugging is checked. then plug phone back in run revolutionary u should be good.u dont need to be in bootloader screen
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If my phone is stuck in the boot loop, how would I get into the settings? Guess u missed that part in my first post..
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anyone else know how to get S-Off if i cant get into the OS and turn on USB debugging???

Can you access your sdcard? Because if you can download a recovery and rename it PC36100.ZIP and put it on the root of your sdcard. When you go to your bootloader just go into the menu with the recovery option (Cant remeber atm) and it should come up asking you if you want to update the file. Press whatever button it asks you to press then you should get recovery
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Do I need to have S-Off to install the recovery?

gd6noob said:
Do I need to have S-Off to install the recovery?
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No
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sevenoid said:
Can you access your sdcard? Because if you can download a recovery and rename it PC36100.ZIP and put it on the root of your sdcard. When you go to your bootloader just go into the menu with the recovery option (Cant remeber atm) and it should come up asking you if you want to update the file. Press whatever button it asks you to press then you should get recovery
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He can't do that since he's s-on . You have to be s-on unlocked or s-off to flash a recovery
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