I unrooted but i still have S-OFF - G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

i unrooted but i still have s off i first rooted using gfree and i used the unlockr method but i still have s off is the another way

Help anyone
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so i have rooted and unrooted about 5 times and i have gotten no where im not sure what i should do any advice

cudahy_boy said:
i unrooted but i still have s off i first rooted using gfree and i used the unlockr method but i still have s off is the another way
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...sion#Rooting_the_Vision_.28G2.2FDZ.29_and_DHD
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ive been there plenty of times that does help

cudahy_boy said:
ive been there plenty of times that does help
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gfree does it all ... if you follow the guide you'll be rooted, with s-off, eng-hboot, etc. As free as your phone can get.
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sorry i meant to say doesnt help i want to unroot and get s on but when i use the hex edit method i guess i get unroot and s off still how would i do it through gfree

why do you want to unroot if I may ask?

i just got the phone on friday and i have a loose hinge

If you have S-OFF via gfree, then on the phone you need to run "./gfree -s on" (from the directory where gfree is stored) to get S-ON again.
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thanks i temp rooted via rage then i s on rebooted and no super user and s was on perfect so now im going to re root and and my gfree backup to revert easily i hope

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Success rate of rooting?

Anyone got an idea about the success rate of the perm root? Is it fairly safe to do? How many people have bricked their phones so far?
100% success. Any chance of failure is due to error on the user's part. Feel confident in yourself.
only way to mess up is if you mess up
Man when I did the perm root it was strange. I didn't get the root but I did get s off. Good enough to be able to flash clockwork recovery though
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Yes 100% safe if you do it right. Take your time read for hours untill you understand what is going on. If you can get adb running you can root your phone. Just make sure you double check everything.
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It's like 4 lines to run in terminal emulator.
Don't F it up and it's 100%
nivlac978 said:
Anyone got an idea about the success rate of the perm root? Is it fairly safe to do? How many people have bricked their phones so far?
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Almost failed because of a little typo...
thenotoriouspie said:
Man when I did the perm root it was strange. I didn't get the root but I did get s off. Good enough to be able to flash clockwork recovery though
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S-Off is root.
S-off is just so it doesn't flash stock software upon startup...
I ran visionary on mine when I didn't have root access but did have s-off
been fine ever since...
I am not the greatest at android but I rooted my G1 and now my G2 and this was WAY easier and I think with all the detailed information in the forums that it's 100%.
r3s-rt said:
S-Off is root.
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If s off is root why couldn't I get su without running visionary?
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thenotoriouspie said:
If s off is root why couldn't I get su without running visionary?
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I'm sorry, I should have clarified. S-Off is *technically* root. When people think of being rooted they think of root for what it is, not root until you reboot and then have to root again. S-Off allows a more "true root" is probably a better way to put it. I didn't mean as soon as you get s-off you have su automatically, but s-off lets it stay there.

To gain temp root....before ota or after???

Is it better to gain temp root before the ota or after or does it even matter either way? Cause right now I'm have not updated my phone eventhough its asking me too.
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You realize we have perm root now, right?
Yeah but I thought you had to gain temp root first in order to gain perm root.
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You can get perm root without updating. If you plan on flashing a rom it doesnt matter. If your going to stay stock then i would update first.
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Actually u can perm root with or without the ota update. It's win,win either way.
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Thank you all for the replies, its been much appreciated! Now moving forward on with rooting, as soon as my buddy gets his G2.
Now one more question haha...... rage or visionaryr14 method?
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I used visionary 11& it worked flawlessly. As for rage,I couldn't tell u. I haven't tried that method yet.
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mjybarr said:
Now one more question haha...... rage or visionaryr14 method?
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If you're comfortable with adb then I highly recommend rage, since you're in control over exactly what steps you're doing. If adb freaks you out then probably best to stick with Visionary.
I say this a lot but use the rage method! I honestly feel if you cant get that method to work you shouldnt be rooting your phone. Rage method is only a total of about 6 lines to enter
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shortlived said:
I say this a lot but use the rage method! I honestly feel if you cant get that method to work you shouldnt be rooting your phone. Rage method is only a total of about 6 lines to enter
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Yeah I feel comfortable using adb, I just wanted to see what method you all using and how successful each method is. I have been looking at rage and it seems to be pretty easy, along with gfree.
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I now would recomend gfree as it gives the real deal. Its actually easier then the rage method and about as 1 click as it gets. I have always been a fan of doing it myself but after reading the wiki and seeing exactly what gfree does... its a very safe option imho.
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shortlived said:
I now would recomend gfree as it gives the real deal. Its actually easier then the rage method and about as 1 click as it gets. I have always been a fan of doing it myself but after reading the wiki and seeing exactly what gfree does... its a very safe option imho.
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gfree isn't anything to do with rooting though, that's doing the S-OFF, SIM unlock etc.
You still need to get temp root before you run gfree. So you can either use Visonary or rage.
I stand corrected. I already had root so i skipped that part. Oh well.
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steviewevie said:
gfree isn't anything to do with rooting though, that's doing the S-OFF, SIM unlock etc.
You still need to get temp root before you run gfree. So you can either use Visonary or rage.
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Not so. Gfree is about radio s-off, which is a better, "deeper" permaroot then the earlier method. It makes the hacked up engineering hboot unnecessary (unless you want fastboot). And is safer imo. Even if you were going to use the engineering hboot i'd use gfree first as its "true" permaroot and won't lock you out of your phone if you overwrite hboot with the stock version.
Use gfree, THEN clockwork recovery and backup your phone. Then do hboot if you want.
Just my opinion.
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VValdo said:
Not so. Gfree is about radio s-off, which is a better, "deeper" permaroot then the earlier method. It makes the hacked up engineering hboot unnecessary (unless you want fastboot). And is safer imo. Even if you were going to use the engineering hboot i'd use gfree first as its "true" permaroot and won't lock you out of your phone if you overwrite hboot with the stock version.
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gfree doesn't have anything to do with rooting. Yes, it gives you radio S-OFF, but if you have temp root and run gfree, then you still have temp root. You need to either run Visionary again or run the "root" script from the rage stuff to give you permaroot. Or start with permaroot and then run gfree.
gfree is not "true" permaroot, it's "true" S-OFF.
steviewevie said:
gfree doesn't have anything to do with rooting. Yes, it gives you radio S-OFF, but if you have temp root and run gfree, then you still have temp root. You need to either run Visionary again or run the "root" script from the rage stuff to give you permaroot. Or start with permaroot and then run gfree.
gfree is not "true" permaroot, it's "true" S-OFF.
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You're right. I meant to say that it facilities permanent root better than the hboot alternative does. You still need to copy the su and Superuser.apk using either method, but if your plan is to shut off the r-o emmc, do it with gfree.
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Possible to perm root without pc?

Well I just got my g2 today and I want too root this sucker. Unfortunatly when I turned on my pc my computer crashed. So I is there a way to root it without a pc? I have wifi calling and tethering so I guess I have the ota.
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Alex530 said:
Well I just got my g2 today and I want too root this sucker. Unfortunatly when I turned on my pc my computer crashed. So I is there a way to root it without a pc? I have wifi calling and tethering so I guess I have the ota.
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I'm not so sure you can, mainly because as part of the rooting process you need to push some system files. If it's not rooted, a solution like root explorer or some su-enabled file browser obviously won't work...
I've only had mine for a couple days so I'm no expert though
Not possible I think. Whatever you do don't even try visionary perm root. Temp root is okay though.
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Ok. Got my pc up n running. Do I use the rage method to root my ota g2?
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Alex530 said:
Well I just got my g2 today and I want too root this sucker. Unfortunatly when I turned on my pc my computer crashed. So I is there a way to root it without a pc? I have wifi calling and tethering so I guess I have the ota.
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I did perm root w/o using computer(just watched the youtube video) visionary r12 then watched the video using terminal emulator and that's it I forgot the youtube link I'm gonna search it so u can root
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Alex530 said:
Ok. Got my pc up n running. Do I use the rage method to root my ota g2?
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I recommend you use the method in the Wiki (which does use rage, along with gfree). It's the most up-to-date and safest (i.e. least chance of brick/semi-brick) method.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...cess_.28Permanent_Root_.2F_.22Permaroot.22.29
steviewevie said:
I recommend you use the method in the Wiki (which does use rage, along with gfree). It's the most up-to-date and safest (i.e. least chance of brick/semi-brick) method.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...cess_.28Permanent_Root_.2F_.22Permaroot.22.29
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I have a question. For the GFree method, do I need to temproot via Visionary first? Or can I just use gFree directly from stock?
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GoCkillaz said:
I have a question. For the GFree method, do I need to temproot via Visionary first? Or can I just use gFree directly from stock?
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You needto run gfree as root, so temp root is required as a minimum. Whether you get that from Visionary or rage is up to you.
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Well I'm trying to root using gfree and its not working. I either get adb permission denied or no such file or directory. Any ideas?
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i did perm root via visionary r12.. im a bit of a noob so does this mean i have s-off or not?
rumitg2 said:
i did perm root via visionary r12.. im a bit of a noob so does this mean i have s-off or not?
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Power the phone off and press the power button and down on the voulme button at the same time. Wait till it gets you to the recovery? And you'll see at the top if it S-on your not permarooted. If it says S-off you are.
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search "blackprince how to root your G2" on youtube. Follow everything the dude does in the video and you should be good to go. That's what I followed, and I got s-off, but not gfree. I did it the first try withing half an hour. Good luck, sir.
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That blackprince video is using an old method though. The most up-to-date method, and far safer, is the gfree method described in the Wiki - http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...cess_.28Permanent_Root_.2F_.22Permaroot.22.29
If you already have used that video to root the phone, you should still use gfree to get full radio S-OFF, because it has more options from getting out of bad situations - see http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...Phone.2C_Set_SuperCID.2C_and_Turn_Radio_S-OFF

[Q]What root method did I use?

I can't for the life of me remember what root method I used. I'm not to clued up on the really technical stuff, but I have been able to flash custom boot images and what ever the latest radio is.
Is there away to find out?
There are 2 reasons why I ask. One is that after have a read through the stickies recently I was reading about gfree, none of what I read sounded even vaugely familiar. But from reading around these forums the gfree method of rooting it is the best way of routing and the safest. Is this correct? And if I'm not rooted from using gfree should I consider unrooting and rerooting using the gfree method? And this bring me on to my second question, if I did want to unroot my phone to go back to stock would I need to know my rooting method?
Thanks in advance
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Edit, I'm a idiot, quoted my op instead of editing it
Hmm... am not sure if u can even find out. Well if u use the 1st method of rooting and getting the s-off using terminal and visionary with unforgivens way or you used rage which am not familiar with and the last one I know is the gfree way
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Unrooting help please!

I used the rage/gfree method to unroot.
I just placed the PC10IMG.zip on the root of my sd and restored it.
It seems like I'm back to 100% stock, But I still have s-off and sim unlock....
How do I use gfree to return back to stock????
It keeps saying gfree not found....
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