Anyone got an idea about the success rate of the perm root? Is it fairly safe to do? How many people have bricked their phones so far?
100% success. Any chance of failure is due to error on the user's part. Feel confident in yourself.
only way to mess up is if you mess up
Man when I did the perm root it was strange. I didn't get the root but I did get s off. Good enough to be able to flash clockwork recovery though
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Yes 100% safe if you do it right. Take your time read for hours untill you understand what is going on. If you can get adb running you can root your phone. Just make sure you double check everything.
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It's like 4 lines to run in terminal emulator.
Don't F it up and it's 100%
nivlac978 said:
Anyone got an idea about the success rate of the perm root? Is it fairly safe to do? How many people have bricked their phones so far?
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Almost failed because of a little typo...
thenotoriouspie said:
Man when I did the perm root it was strange. I didn't get the root but I did get s off. Good enough to be able to flash clockwork recovery though
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S-Off is root.
S-off is just so it doesn't flash stock software upon startup...
I ran visionary on mine when I didn't have root access but did have s-off
been fine ever since...
I am not the greatest at android but I rooted my G1 and now my G2 and this was WAY easier and I think with all the detailed information in the forums that it's 100%.
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S-Off is root.
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If s off is root why couldn't I get su without running visionary?
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If s off is root why couldn't I get su without running visionary?
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I'm sorry, I should have clarified. S-Off is *technically* root. When people think of being rooted they think of root for what it is, not root until you reboot and then have to root again. S-Off allows a more "true root" is probably a better way to put it. I didn't mean as soon as you get s-off you have su automatically, but s-off lets it stay there.
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Is it better to gain temp root before the ota or after or does it even matter either way? Cause right now I'm have not updated my phone eventhough its asking me too.
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You realize we have perm root now, right?
Yeah but I thought you had to gain temp root first in order to gain perm root.
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You can get perm root without updating. If you plan on flashing a rom it doesnt matter. If your going to stay stock then i would update first.
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Actually u can perm root with or without the ota update. It's win,win either way.
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Thank you all for the replies, its been much appreciated! Now moving forward on with rooting, as soon as my buddy gets his G2.
Now one more question haha...... rage or visionaryr14 method?
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I used visionary 11& it worked flawlessly. As for rage,I couldn't tell u. I haven't tried that method yet.
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mjybarr said:
Now one more question haha...... rage or visionaryr14 method?
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If you're comfortable with adb then I highly recommend rage, since you're in control over exactly what steps you're doing. If adb freaks you out then probably best to stick with Visionary.
I say this a lot but use the rage method! I honestly feel if you cant get that method to work you shouldnt be rooting your phone. Rage method is only a total of about 6 lines to enter
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I say this a lot but use the rage method! I honestly feel if you cant get that method to work you shouldnt be rooting your phone. Rage method is only a total of about 6 lines to enter
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Yeah I feel comfortable using adb, I just wanted to see what method you all using and how successful each method is. I have been looking at rage and it seems to be pretty easy, along with gfree.
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I now would recomend gfree as it gives the real deal. Its actually easier then the rage method and about as 1 click as it gets. I have always been a fan of doing it myself but after reading the wiki and seeing exactly what gfree does... its a very safe option imho.
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I now would recomend gfree as it gives the real deal. Its actually easier then the rage method and about as 1 click as it gets. I have always been a fan of doing it myself but after reading the wiki and seeing exactly what gfree does... its a very safe option imho.
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gfree isn't anything to do with rooting though, that's doing the S-OFF, SIM unlock etc.
You still need to get temp root before you run gfree. So you can either use Visonary or rage.
I stand corrected. I already had root so i skipped that part. Oh well.
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gfree isn't anything to do with rooting though, that's doing the S-OFF, SIM unlock etc.
You still need to get temp root before you run gfree. So you can either use Visonary or rage.
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Not so. Gfree is about radio s-off, which is a better, "deeper" permaroot then the earlier method. It makes the hacked up engineering hboot unnecessary (unless you want fastboot). And is safer imo. Even if you were going to use the engineering hboot i'd use gfree first as its "true" permaroot and won't lock you out of your phone if you overwrite hboot with the stock version.
Use gfree, THEN clockwork recovery and backup your phone. Then do hboot if you want.
Just my opinion.
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Not so. Gfree is about radio s-off, which is a better, "deeper" permaroot then the earlier method. It makes the hacked up engineering hboot unnecessary (unless you want fastboot). And is safer imo. Even if you were going to use the engineering hboot i'd use gfree first as its "true" permaroot and won't lock you out of your phone if you overwrite hboot with the stock version.
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gfree doesn't have anything to do with rooting. Yes, it gives you radio S-OFF, but if you have temp root and run gfree, then you still have temp root. You need to either run Visionary again or run the "root" script from the rage stuff to give you permaroot. Or start with permaroot and then run gfree.
gfree is not "true" permaroot, it's "true" S-OFF.
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gfree doesn't have anything to do with rooting. Yes, it gives you radio S-OFF, but if you have temp root and run gfree, then you still have temp root. You need to either run Visionary again or run the "root" script from the rage stuff to give you permaroot. Or start with permaroot and then run gfree.
gfree is not "true" permaroot, it's "true" S-OFF.
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You're right. I meant to say that it facilities permanent root better than the hboot alternative does. You still need to copy the su and Superuser.apk using either method, but if your plan is to shut off the r-o emmc, do it with gfree.
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Well I just got my g2 today and I want too root this sucker. Unfortunatly when I turned on my pc my computer crashed. So I is there a way to root it without a pc? I have wifi calling and tethering so I guess I have the ota.
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Alex530 said:
Well I just got my g2 today and I want too root this sucker. Unfortunatly when I turned on my pc my computer crashed. So I is there a way to root it without a pc? I have wifi calling and tethering so I guess I have the ota.
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I'm not so sure you can, mainly because as part of the rooting process you need to push some system files. If it's not rooted, a solution like root explorer or some su-enabled file browser obviously won't work...
I've only had mine for a couple days so I'm no expert though
Not possible I think. Whatever you do don't even try visionary perm root. Temp root is okay though.
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Ok. Got my pc up n running. Do I use the rage method to root my ota g2?
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Alex530 said:
Well I just got my g2 today and I want too root this sucker. Unfortunatly when I turned on my pc my computer crashed. So I is there a way to root it without a pc? I have wifi calling and tethering so I guess I have the ota.
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I did perm root w/o using computer(just watched the youtube video) visionary r12 then watched the video using terminal emulator and that's it I forgot the youtube link I'm gonna search it so u can root
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Alex530 said:
Ok. Got my pc up n running. Do I use the rage method to root my ota g2?
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I recommend you use the method in the Wiki (which does use rage, along with gfree). It's the most up-to-date and safest (i.e. least chance of brick/semi-brick) method.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...cess_.28Permanent_Root_.2F_.22Permaroot.22.29
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I recommend you use the method in the Wiki (which does use rage, along with gfree). It's the most up-to-date and safest (i.e. least chance of brick/semi-brick) method.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...cess_.28Permanent_Root_.2F_.22Permaroot.22.29
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I have a question. For the GFree method, do I need to temproot via Visionary first? Or can I just use gFree directly from stock?
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I have a question. For the GFree method, do I need to temproot via Visionary first? Or can I just use gFree directly from stock?
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You needto run gfree as root, so temp root is required as a minimum. Whether you get that from Visionary or rage is up to you.
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Well I'm trying to root using gfree and its not working. I either get adb permission denied or no such file or directory. Any ideas?
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i did perm root via visionary r12.. im a bit of a noob so does this mean i have s-off or not?
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i did perm root via visionary r12.. im a bit of a noob so does this mean i have s-off or not?
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Power the phone off and press the power button and down on the voulme button at the same time. Wait till it gets you to the recovery? And you'll see at the top if it S-on your not permarooted. If it says S-off you are.
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search "blackprince how to root your G2" on youtube. Follow everything the dude does in the video and you should be good to go. That's what I followed, and I got s-off, but not gfree. I did it the first try withing half an hour. Good luck, sir.
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That blackprince video is using an old method though. The most up-to-date method, and far safer, is the gfree method described in the Wiki - http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...cess_.28Permanent_Root_.2F_.22Permaroot.22.29
If you already have used that video to root the phone, you should still use gfree to get full radio S-OFF, because it has more options from getting out of bad situations - see http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...Phone.2C_Set_SuperCID.2C_and_Turn_Radio_S-OFF
Before I updated my Desire to official Gingerbread 2.3.3, I had used Visionary+ to temp root my phone. It doesn't work with Gingerbread and also looks like the app has come to end of life.
I tried searching the forum and Google, found many solutions but only to perm root.
I don't want to downgrade or change any ROM or do perm root. I'm looking for temp root only, like with Visionary+. I install it in my phone click temp root and done.
If anyone knows about this app, please let me know. I'd appreciate it very much.
Gingerbread closes the exploit visionary+ used for temp root. As far as I am aware, there is no temp root app yet. Can I ask why you don't want perm root?
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Gingerbread closes the exploit visionary+ used for temp root. As far as I am aware, there is no temp root app yet. Can I ask why you don't want perm root?
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I only want root, nothing else. No different ROM or loader or other fancy stuff.
I don't think I can say give me perm root like visionary+ temp root but don't change any stuff in my phone. I sincerely hope I'm wrong here.
You can go perm root and still use your stock rom.. You don't have to change that if you don't want to.
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Oh! I can. I tried unrevoked but it only talks about custom ROM. Am I misinterpreting something? Please advise.
Unrevoked doesn't work on GB. You have to use revolutionary.
Yes it opens the door for custom Roms, but you don't have to.
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Unrevoked doesn't work on GB. You have to use revolutionary.
Yes it opens the door for custom Roms, but you don't have to.
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The FAQ in unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/revolutionary says:
Does Revolutionary give me root?
No. You will need to flash this zipfile from recovery.
So this means I don't need revolutionary for rooting?
How to flash that file from recovery?
You need first revolutionary, then recovery then you can flash zip. You need s-off first provided by revolutionary to get root. You can't get it without it
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rootSU said:
You need first revolutionary, then recovery then you can flash zip. You need s-off first provided by revolutionary to get root. You can't get it without it
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OK. I'll read more and try. Thank you all for the help so far.
I found this guide, http://techspalace.blogspot.com/2011/10/perm-root-htc-desire-gingerbread-233.html and followed it. My phone is rooted now. Thanks guys.
Good job!
Hello All,
I'm looking for a way to temporary root my Android Desire Z ... What should I need to know at first, and what is the tools that I should use. Also, how can I unroot the phone after that ... Thanks.
Assuming you are on gingerbread, run the 'Gaining Temp-root' and 'Temp-rooting to backup' from this guide
To undo it, just reboot the phone.
-Nipqer
sikas said:
Hello All,
I'm looking for a way to temporary root my Android Desire Z ... What should I need to know at first, and what is the tools that I should use. Also, how can I unroot the phone after that ... Thanks.
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use visionary, then be unhappy when you are holding a brick
im just kidding, dont temp root - full root. there few good reasons not too, amd you can always unroot your phone.
anyway why do you need temp root? something specific i gather?
demkantor said:
use visionary, then be unhappy when you are holding a brick
im just kidding, dont temp root - full root. there few good reasons not too, amd you can always unroot your phone.
anyway why do you need temp root? something specific i gather?
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Hello,
I need to test some apps that requires root access .. so I wanted to temporary root the device and then unroot it once finished using the apps.
The guide nipqer linked you to will suffice, after your test is complete I suggest you consider permentley rooting your phone as I'm sure you will be most happy this way
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demkantor said:
The guide nipqer linked you to will suffice, after your test is complete I suggest you consider permentley rooting your phone as I'm sure you will be most happy this way
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Well, if I'm satisfied, I'll definitly perminant root it
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I have another thing, how can I be sure that the device is rooted? I mean, how can I test it??
download an app that requires root and then see if it works, i think there is even an app that just checks for root
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I have another thing, how can I be sure that the device is rooted? I mean, how can I test it??
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download terminal emulator from the market and type in the command "su"
In case you didn't see it, towelroot v3 was just released. It still does not support our device, but it does add the ability to temp root a device. Go to towelroot.com and click on the "fix your phone yourself" link.
Follow the instructions and use the string for temp root. Worked great for me. That being said, firewater s-off is now patched, and sunshine says it is incompatible with our rom/kernel. Hopefully jcase can update sunshine for us so we can obtain s-off.
It's a start!
Nvm got it.
Kernel contains HTC anti-firewater patch
Is anyone else getting "Kernel contains HTC anti-firewater patch!"?
Did they say firewater won't be updated?
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Did they say firewater won't be updated?
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Correct, no more updates to firewater. We will have to pay for sunshine once m7 is supported
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So using temproot, is it possible to install su and SuperUser to obtain permanent root?
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russjr08 said:
So using temproot, is it possible to install su and SuperUser to obtain permanent root?
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No, system is still write protected regardless of root or not
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Worked like a charm. Thanks for the heads-up.
Jcase just announced temp towelroot support for sunshine. M7 still doesn't work, but it seems most of the pieces are falling in place.
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nsmal24 said:
Jcase just announced temp towelroot support for sunshine. M7 still doesn't work, but it seems most of the pieces are falling in place.
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I'll drop 25 bucks to gladly drop a rom on this phone. This is probably the longest I've gone without root in forever.
asacado said:
I'll drop 25 bucks to gladly drop a rom on this phone. This is probably the longest I've gone without root in forever.
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Me too. Always been able to root and rom immediately with every other device.
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I must be missing something because I can't get it to work. You just click the banner 3 times change the last 0 to a 1 and hit the button? It either says I have root and I use root checker and it says I don't, or it reboots which means towelroot failed
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I must be missing something because I can't get it to work. You just click the banner 3 times change the last 0 to a 1 and hit the button? It either says I have root and I use root checker and it says I don't, or it reboots which means towelroot failed
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That was happening for me as well. I tried running weaksause after towelroot said it worked and it did the trick, maybe try that.
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That was happening for me as well. I tried running weaksause after towelroot said it worked and it did the trick, maybe try that.
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hmm i wonder why this is working for some people but not others
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That was happening for me as well. I tried running weaksause after towelroot said it worked and it did the trick, maybe try that.
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So what version of Sense are you using? 5.5 or 6.0?
so, for those people that are trying towelroot on M7 with sense 6 did you make sure the modstring has:
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Temp root, HTC, Motorola: "1337 0 1 0 4 1"
what is the point of temp root vs root?
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what is the point of temp root vs root?
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Basically full root will survive a reboot, where as temp root is lost on reboot and the device must be temp rooted again. You can at least still have some sort of root access with temp root rather than have to stay 100% stock.
Somebody correct me if I'm wrong or want to go into more detail.
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Basically full root will survive a reboot, where as temp root is lost on reboot and the device must be temp rooted again. You can at least still have some sort of root access with temp root rather than have to stay 100% stock.
Somebody correct me if I'm wrong or want to go into more detail.
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With a locked bootloader and s-on, the system and boot positions are write protected also. This means you can read system files, but not edit them. Good for titanium backups
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so, for those people that are trying towelroot on M7 with sense 6 did you make sure the modstring has:
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Temp root, HTC, Motorola: "1337 0 1 0 4 1"
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I just tried that and it does not work for sense 6. Sucks that I had to send my phone in for repair and I took the latest update. Now I can't root. Really miss the Rom section.