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Out of space? Lame

Hey all. I have had my desire for about a week now and I'm already out of space. And using too much RAM. Is there anyway to get all my apps to run off the SD card. There must be a reason HTC provided me with a 8gb card. I'm tired of having to un install a app to install a new one.
Please help me out, or direct me to a thread where this is explained. Thanks in advance.
-- Ozz
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To run apps from sd at the moment you'd need to root. Froyo will bring a2sd but who knows when your operator will release it...
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So what does that mean? I need to root my desire? With what Rom? I'm sure I can easily do that with the proper guide.
I can't believe I'm out of space already. This sucks. Omg
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My suggestion to you is, Only have apps your need.
Rubbish I know but well...
The 8Gb card, in my opinion is more fore music and other general stuff like that.

You could try searching:
"Moving ANY app to SD on FroYo (or how to Enable all grayed out 'Move to SD' buttons)"
chuk

Uninstall the games you don't play.
I had Shoot U! And played that only a few times and that is moveable to SD.
More and more devs will move their games to SD but I like to keep a lean machine so Uninstall often.
I use no more than 3 separate apps per day and barely any games so my usage is different to yours but I have up to 30 installed apps and that is it. My mind boggles when people have more than 50 but I'm still running stock. Figure out what is important because that fart app you downloaded pales in comparison to the gas beasts I can generate sometimes.
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Jabbafat23 said:
Uninstall the games you don't play.
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This is good advice.
If you a little proactive with your application management, you can get by with an unrooted device.
For example, I like Google Earth for Android, but I seldom use it and it is a very large app. So, I keep the APK on my SD and when I want to use it, I install it, use it, and then remove it again. I do this even though I'm using Froyo Apps2SD, because if the app is installed it is still consuming space in the Dalvik cache.
The next generation of HTC Android phones won't be such an issue since they are equipping them with more internal memory, and I'd imagine these will largely render any form of Apps2SD obsolete.
Regards,
Dave

It's easy to root. Search for Unrevoked 3. I have 250 mb of apps installed and still have 70mbs of free memory. Many custom roms set it up for you - you don't need to do anything.
I recommend the NextSense rom found in the dev section here.

crazy_horse_uk said:
You could try searching:
"Moving ANY app to SD on FroYo (or how to Enable all grayed out 'Move to SD' buttons)"
chuk
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Did u already do this? Its the SOLUTION to your problem. No root required, very easy to do, etc.

crazy_horse_uk said:
You could try searching:
"Moving ANY app to SD on FroYo (or how to Enable all grayed out 'Move to SD' buttons)"
chuk
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I tried this. It didn't work. I also partitioned the sd card, did whatever I found anywhere on the internet. There was some effect as I had more space for some reason but all of the apps stayed on the main memory. I also couldn't access the ext3 partition from linux, ooops android itself.
If it worked for you, could you please share your ROM, radio, recovery, root method and if you did anything else - partition sd or other?

Any benefits of SD partitioning?

I Google's and became more confused on this. Is there any benefit to this other than if you somehow reach Max storage on the phone? So if I partition the SD do I have to us apps2sd? Can I just use titanium backup and put on SD card or does that not us the partition I created? Alot of apps don't work with move2sd app. Apps2sd isn't I'm the market. Also doesn't show much apps and I know the developer has to sign or do something so it will work.. bit don't want people to share for free. But titanium does it was any app.
From what I read this phone doesn't work like a computer with the memory. What I mean is if I use the system app and shows a list of apps running "if you can say running I'm not sure" its not really slowing my phone down. From what I understand is if I force close them I will use more power and CPU when my phone starts them back up...
So is there any benefit? Do I really need to force close any programs or apps that are running and I'm not using. Etc Gmail. I don't use Gmail. Just a example as I already deleted the apk.
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No.generally you don't need to force anything to close. It is possible to come along a ****ty app that never sleeps, but that's rare.
Regarding partitioning for apps2sd, it is very highly unlikely that you need this on the evo or future phones. The benefit is being able to put apps on the card that disallow froyos ability to put apps on the card. You really don't have that many apps that don't allow it.
Check out "sdmove" in the market as the native way to move apps is annoying as ****.
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Yeah that app shows only 3 apps I can move while titanium I moved 16.. hit the 1700 mark with cm6 with stock kernel.
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Should I un-partition my SD card
I have Apps2SD but I don't see the benefit of it. I just end up waiting longer for devs(like Virus) to work it into their latest releases.
Is there any substantial benefit of having my SD card partitioned and using Apps2SD?
(FYI i have a 16gb class6 card)
Thanks in advance.

MattySauce said:
I have Apps2SD but I don't see the benefit of it. I just end up waiting longer for devs(like Virus) to work it into their latest releases.
Is there any substantial benefit of having my SD card partitioned and using Apps2SD?
(FYI i have a 16gb class6 card)
Thanks in advance.
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* Native move to SD can't move everything (as already stated). Darktremor moves everything, automatically.
* Native move to SD puts everything on the main SD partition, and whenever you plug your Evo in in disk drive mode, the apps on the SD become unavailable. With Darktremor, they all still work, even when the Evo is in disk drive mode.

App 2 SD that actually moves to the ext-SD?

Title. Is there an app that actually moves/installs apps to the ext-SD rather than the int-SD?

Honestly you probably won't ever see that on our phones because there is so much internal storage in our phones.
Got boost?

Why? And no, not until someone makes an a2ext script for our phones. You can try searching for 'DarkTremor' and run his script, it may work but I doubt it. There's also a GUI 'app' for controlling it's settings. But doing something like a2ext isn't an 'app' - this isn't Apple. Some stuff you do with these phones requires brain power to accomplish, the learning curve is pretty steep for Android.
Same as the above post though, you won't need it.
EDIT - EXTERNAL SD, not ext-sd. I thought you were referring to and ext partition. Anyway, sure. There are plenty in the market and Titanium backup will do it too. Until we have Cyanogen (or another Dev does it) only certain apps will go to the sdcard, that's determined by the app developer. You do understand this will cause some apps to not work while you have the sdcard mounted, right? Also they take forever to load up on boot - and no widgets can go on the sd.

SD card as external vs sd-ext

Advantages and disadvamtages? What are they?
Thanks
Niall
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From my days on Desire, I found D2EXT much better cos ALL of the app was moved and the system was tricked into thinking the EXT part of the memory card was actually the internal memory (NAND). For some strange reason there was only few roms that had it (hence why i was on MIUI on my desire).
Don't understand the Xperia Play forum, very disorganised, gonna use http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1374061 to move my apps to SD card. Defo want more apps, hate this running out of space!!!!

Nhialor said:
Advantages and disadvamtages? What are they?
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Niall
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Basically the use of having an ext partition in your sdcard in the 1st place is our device's very poor internal storage(400mb) and the system is already taking up about half of it.
If you notice other devices with high internal storage as default (8gb, 16, 32gb like Galaxy S, SII, Note, Etc.,) doesnt even bother having it, even though its still possible.
If youre installing some user apps and its frustrating because you cant move it to SD card via settings menu, its because the app wants you to install it to the internal memory,
as they “believe” the app wouldn’t work in your SD card. If youre using a higher internal storage smartphone this isn’t much an issue to you, but if youre struggling for space,
this is quite annoying.
So the use of an ext-partition in your sd card is needed for those apps unmovable via the “normal way”.
Some 3rd party apps such as Link2sd(my personal favourite), Simple2Ext(CM7 rom), Apps2Sd, and many more out there will make use of this partition
These tools will “fool” your system in linking those user apps to your internal memory where in reality they’re moving it into your ext-partition, which is basically to your sd card also.
Take note that some apps though(well, not much) are not functional if they’re in the ext partition. In my experience only 2 apps failed to work, Beautiful Widgets and Minecraft pocket edition. I don’t know about others since
almost all apps seem to function well in the ext partition.
Not only that, some apps also(such as titanium backup) can convert a system app to a user app, so you can move it to your sd card using Link2Sd! But I wouldn’t recommend it though, I’m reading a lot of threads here
which system apps are safe to transfer/freeze/delete, so I have some system apps converted to user and now on my ext partition. Sweet.
Hope Ive helped.

Can I second noojster on Link2SD. Both minecraft and beautiful widgets work fine for me. Jelly Defense doesn't seem to like it though. Only one I have found so far.

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Has anyone tried moving all user apps to the Sdcard to have them run out of the sdcard? I would like to run the apps out of my extsdcard.

I did on another device once... some apps worked others I found need to be on internal.... trial and error I guess.I ended up whipping and starting over. It was about a 5 minute adventure that devastated this noob at the time.... I am still a noob... any how IMHO just leave things be and let them default. Unless you have a storage issue..??... I am not really sure what the reason is for having A2sd. I could see it on older devices that has a lack of internal or maybe if using a class 10 micro SD could speed up some applications.... I guess what is your reason for doing it? It if you do do this any ways make back ups and I would only do one at a time and then test. I remember having issues with widgets. Hope this help or some one with more knowledge than me can chime in.

There used to be a hack for it. It's no longer needed.
Moving apps to the EXT-SD card that aren't meant to be there, is just going to cause you problems and with all the storage this phone has is....well, silly.
Definitely don't move apps that you want to start/run at boot, or apps that have widgets (especially widgets you have on your homescreens)
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