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could it be possible to install a file explorer from wince7 ?
I did a search for a file explorer but I didn't find it .
maybe it is possible to mail the app to your phone and then install it .
there's no sideloading of apps, unless it's in marketplace, which is impossible cos ms won't approve of it in the first place
unless u have a developer phone................
LOL , ok that was stupid of me , Microsoft isn't that stupid
I wouldn't even know if you would find a coherent file system. It could be that the file allocation table is completely new and unique to WP7
AceofSpades25 said:
I wouldn't even know if you would find a coherent file system. It could be that the file allocation table is completely new and unique to WP7
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Looks to me like it will be using exFAT
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=8526857#post8526857
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ExFAT
AceofSpades25 said:
Looks to me like it will be using exFAT
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If that's true, all we need is some kind of jailbreak.
rexian said:
If that's true, all we need is some kind of jailbreak.
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My only concern as a developer is: If I jailbreak it, will Microsoft take away my developer priveleges (e.g. side loading)
don't tell them
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don't tell them
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I wasn't planning on it
It's not like they're going to lock developers out forever because they're "hailbreaking" it. In worst case you can probably undo the jailbreak and go on as usual.
Can someone tell me the difference between a developers phone (side-loading) and a normal one ?
side-loading , is that only a .reg key that is different from a normal phone ?
I think jailbreaking it will be the way to go as I don't see M$ allowing people to access the file system either on the phone or via the computer.
ceesheim said:
Can someone tell me the difference between a developers phone (side-loading) and a normal one ?
side-loading , is that only a .reg key that is different from a normal phone ?
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Side loading will allow developers to install apps that don't come from the app store (for testing purposes)
Not sure how it will work yet, but it will probably require you to have the source which means it probably wont be suitable for pirating
If MS does allow file system access it would probably be similar to the way Apple allowed on the iPod. I'm not sure if you can stilll do this, but before my 30GB classic broke down on me I was able to use it like a thumb drive by selecting a option in iTunes. You could access the file system thru Windows folders, but you couldn't see system files. Then developers could create an app, SNES emulator for example, and create a folder where to add roms.
krjcook said:
If MS does allow file system access it would probably be similar to the way Apple allowed on the iPod. I'm not sure if you can stilll do this, but before my 30GB classic broke down on me I was able to use it like a thumb drive by selecting a option in iTunes. You could access the file system thru Windows folders, but you couldn't see system files. Then developers could create an app, SNES emulator for example, and create a folder where to add roms.
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As long as 3rd party apps will have access to this space as well, then I'd consider that most of the problems I have with the platform resolved.
Windows Phone 7 update will feature full backup, restore points
http://wmpoweruser.com/windows-phone-7-update-will-feature-full-backup-restore-points/
http://www.liveside.net/2011/01/05/...m=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+liveside+(LiveSide)
janemanno1 said:
Windows Phone 7 update will feature full backup, restore points
http://wmpoweruser.com/windows-phone-7-update-will-feature-full-backup-restore-points/
http://www.liveside.net/2011/01/05/...m=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+liveside+(LiveSide)
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sounds good to me...
Old and old
Apologies. It was new to me!
janemanno1 said:
Apologies. It was new to me!
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Some people can't help themselves, I haven't seen this particular picture, so thank you. I'm happy with the progress if this holds true.
As far as I understand, this isn't a new feature and has nothing to do with the update itself. This is how Zune works, and that's what Zune software on your PC does with all devices.
How to change default Backup folder for WP7
Hi,
I updated my HTC HD7 with the latest update yesteday.
The major challanges I faced were,
1) By default Zune was searching for free space on "C:" drive. Typically I dont have much space on C drive.... I had to temporarilly remove some folders to keep going.
2) After the update was over, I realized the space is blocked permanentaly as update has stored the restore point in "Windows Phone Update" folder on the C drive.
can any one help in doing the following...
1) How to move the "Windows Phone Update" to another drive??
2) How to change the default drive to another drive like "D" or "F" so that next time I run the update programme, it takes the space from there.
Thanks.
Ram.
I played with the OEMName reg settings as posted here to tinker with the other oem apps, and it stopped all my applications from working, I had to hard reset to get any apps to function again. Luckily, I had saved my 7008 backup files and I used the method posted [url="http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1060103&highlight=backup+file+locations+zune]here[/url] to revert my locked 7392 Focus to the 7008 backup. I had saved the backup. These are some observations:
- When I updated to 7390 and created the backup, my phone was already unlocked and prevent unlock was done, when I restored my backup, the unlock was preserved
- the unlock retained through my subsequent update to 7392 (expected, but nice to know)
- The sideloaded apps on the phone at the time of the 7008 backup also installed with the backup
Even with my phone on the pin lock, as soon as I connected it to the PC, Zune opened and synced and prompted for the update. Is this new bahavior?
I was able move the saved backup files into the Windows Phone Update folder after the phone was connected and synced.
Once I was back to 7008, I hard reset the phone and updated again without setting up my Live Account info to create a "pure" 7008 backup for the purpose of posting here for others to tinker with.
If there is interest, i will post the files when I get home.
That backup could be very handy to have around! Please post it!
Backup is for one phone only, not all around. I know, you can change the DeviceId, but it will fail when you try to restore to another phone. I guess a backup is useless for others.
The best backup is the firmware itself.
I do believe this will work. There are two .xml files in the restore point. Each of these has a deviceID field. I believe that if you change these fields to your own unique device id number and wait until after the phone is connected to zune to replace the files, you may be able to use someone else's backup files on your phone.
Also, I reverted my phone to 7008, but once there, I was unable to get the chevron unlock to work. I'm not sure why this is or what I did wrong.
Later tonight, I will try to restore my wife's phone using my restore point as a proof of concept
Proof of Concept failed...
this is what I did...
1. First, I located the existing backup files on my computer.
C:\Users\#USER#\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Phone Update
In this location, there is a folder with a long name that looks like this:
B12da62f - d8d2d122 – 81d60512 - 6aaa3f12
This folder holds your restore files. This number is your unique device ID number.
2. I copied this folder and its contents to a safe place in case I needed it later. I have made it a practice to make a backup copy of all my backups so I can restore to any point. Restoring your own backups definitely works. I’ve done this several times with many old and new backups. See this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1060103&highlight=backup+file+locations+zune for details on how
3. Next, I got a backup file that didn’t belong to my phone and I edited the .xml files
- in the properties folder, you’ll find properties.xml
- I opened this file using notepad and change the #’s in the DeviceUrlId field to my unique device ID number
<DeviceUrlId>zune-tuner://windowsphone/XXXXXXXX%20-%20XXXXXXXX%20-%20XXXXXXXX%20-%20XXXXXXXX</DeviceUrlId>
- in RestorePoint\5372F2DE-F333-4717-9CB8-1846BE19900E\Data there is Manifest.xml
- I alsoopened this file using notepad and change the X’s in the DeviceId field to my unique device ID number
<DeviceId>XXXXXXXX - XXXXXXXX - XXXXXXXX - XXXXXXXX</DeviceId>
4. I connected my Focus to the computer and opened and waited for Zune to open
- waited for it to finish syncing
- left my Focus connected and Zune open.
5. Then I replaced the authentic backup files with the edited files from the other phone.
- Opened the backup file location on your computer from step 1
- Delete the existing Properties and RestorePoint folders
- Copied the Properties and RestorePoint folders from step 3 into this folder
6. I returned to Zune, went into Settings, then go to Update
- Wait for Zune to finish looking for an update
- It indicated that I had a restore point
- I selected to restore and followed the prompts
- All appears to be going well
7. On Step 3: Restoring Backup, the phone restarts, the and the Backup fails
- It spits out error code 801812E0
- I can't find anything on this code anywhere
At the beginning of step 3 it must be checking something in one of the other files?
IDK...
I do think this could work if we knew what Zune was checking that gives it the fail.
A quick look at the data files suggests to me that they may be encrypted. This would make sense, since otherwise you could overwrite the OS at a very low level by modifying your backup and then "restoring" it.
I bet the encryption key is stored in the device somehow, though.
GoodDayToDie said:
A quick look at the data files suggests to me that they may be encrypted. This would make sense, since otherwise you could overwrite the OS at a very low level by modifying your backup and then "restoring" it.
I bet the encryption key is stored in the device somehow, though.
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they are encrypted and sighed against your imei and CID from the sd card.
and it could be that it is sighed online when you are downloading the update (but I don't know that for sure)
but the main problem is that you can't use another his backup because the activation email adress is stored in the backup.
and it is way to complicated to get that out because it is stored on to many parts of the backup.
so if there was a way to hack the encryption you could only use it on your own phone.
ceesheim said:
they are encrypted and sighed against your imei and CID from the sd card.
and it could be that it is sighed online when you are downloading the update (but I don't know that for sure)
but the main problem is that you can't use another his backup because the activation email adress is stored in the backup.
and it is way to to get that out because it is stored on to many parts of the backup.
so if there was a way to hack the encryption you could only use it on your own phone.
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I don't think the email has anything to do with it.
I have tried all variables of restore files to phones with live activation set up and not set up.
With the false restore files, it fails the same regardless.
With restore files from the phone, it works the same, regardless of what live account is activated on the phone or in the restore.
Sent from my Focus using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
As I mentioned, it is not the way we can walk. One phone, one backup, another phone, another and so on. Sad but true.
well, FWIW, here are the 7008 backup files...
7008_Backup.zip
the file is 515 MB.
There is no Live account associated with the backup and I've already replaced the device ID info in the two xml files with X's
munkeyphyst said:
well, FWIW, here are the 7008 backup files...
7008_Backup.zip
the file is 515 MB.
There is no Live account associated with the backup and I've already replaced the device ID info in the two xml files with X's
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It would've spared you some time, I did it before you and it's not working. As ceesheim said, they are tied to hardware.
I'm looking now to patch Zune to bypass that.
Thanks, I didn't see that. I hope the "clean" 7008 restore files are of use.
Is there the possibility to extract specific files ie those related to SMS and use them in another backup?
efjay said:
Is there the possibility to extract specific files ie those related to SMS and use them in another backup?
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Not at the moment, as the backup files are encrypted. Different people (myself too) are working on various approaches, to try to access or unpack the rom files (from backups).
EnderPsp said:
Not at the moment, as the backup files are encrypted. Different people (myself too) are working on various approaches, to try to access or unpack the rom files (from backups).
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Thanks for the reply.
I wrote something about this topic overhere.
EnderPsp said:
It would've spared you some time, I did it before you and it's not working. As ceesheim said, they are tied to hardware.
I'm looking now to patch Zune to bypass that.
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it isn't zune that check it but the ULDR that validates it , so it doesn't bring you anywhere to patch ZUNE I think.
7008_Backup.zip
7008_Backup.zip multiuplood link please
ranya said:
7008_Backup.zip multiuplood link please
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There is no way (yet) to use another phone's backup so a link would not help you.
Sorry to resurrect this thread, but maybe all we would need to do is change the activeid and the folder, that goes 8-4-4-4-12 with random numbers. Is there another 7008 backup to compare that number with? maybe all you need is the activeid for your phone, if phones have seperate active ids.
decided to make a tut on how to update to mango for the first timers out there that have no clue on how to do it! YOURE WELCOME!
this is a straight forward step by step tut
i take no responsibilities if u brick and take no credit for it
all credit do to all that make this happened
also do research before you do anything, i always do it before any upgrade or mod to any device being cellphone or any kind of electronics THE SEARCH BUTTON IS JUST LIKE GOOGLE IT WILL BE YOURE BEST FRIEND, and after a lot of searching then post youre questions so the comunity can help!
the back up is created at
C:\Users\YOURE USER NAME\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Phone Update
and it will be a folder with a large sequence of alfa numeric name
i advice to copy this to other location because when you upgrade or downgrade the zune software it delets this file
also in this tread is more indeepth on wp7 backup
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103011
if you cant see appdata folder try this:
1) Open Windows Explorer (Start\All Programs\ Accessories)
2) In Windows Explorer go to Computer\"driveletter"\users\"username"
3) With "username" highlighted, click "Organize" (top left of Windows Explorer window) and then select "Folder and Search Options"
4) Check the "Show All Folders" box in the General tab
5) Go to the "View" tab
6) Click the "Show hidden files, folders, and drives" radio button
if you already updated or downgraded zune software sorry but you will have to reflash youre wp7 with a stock or unbranded rom and start over, i did cause i wanted to have mango unlocked to load sideapps
to restore last state you have to download windows 7 backup tool 1.6 or 1.5,
1.5 was the only one that worked for me
to do the backup just open app click restore and make sure youre backup file is in
C:\Users\YOURE USER NAME\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Phone Update directory
you must have zune software prior version 4.8 for this to work with provision.exe so it will do a full backup, if you use zune 4.8 it wont do a full backup. YOU BEEN WARNED
1.download and unpack the files www.mediafire.com/?5zclb0ou8zdll
2.install file WPSupportTool-x86.msi for 32 bit or WPSupportTool-amd64.msi for 64 bit
3.run Provision.exe, it will make backup of youre phone and it will run all files to prepare youre phone for mango update
4.when it finishes close provision app and run StartZuneLocal.exe to install zune 4.8, after it finishes connect phone and follow instructions and all done welcome to MANGO!
if theres an error please post it so i can edit the post for future members
saludos a todos desde puerto rico!
Awesome! Giving this a try (fingers crossed).
Is there a difference between part 1 and part 2? I'm going with 1 first to see if there is any difference.
Success! Worked just as you said...good work!
good to know that all went good
Worked perfectly, everything so far seems to be working. Only thing I've found not to work is to do with my marketplace Orange selects. Have to search for my free apps this month. Also the HTC apps in marketplace throws up the same error. But good work made the process so much easier.
does this work for any windows phone?
I have a Dell Venue Pro
maxima00se said:
Awesome! Giving this a try (fingers crossed).
Is there a difference between part 1 and part 2? I'm going with 1 first to see if there is any difference.
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Im pretty sure you have to download both and then unzip one of them because the files are split into two zip folders
Worked perfectly on my HTC Mozart, and you do need to unzip both files, which should be done automatically if using WinZip.
Worked for me on a Samsung Focus.
I reistalled zune 4.7, I was at 4.8. Now it is not seeing my phone. any ideas
i've read that zune 4.7 doesn't work with mango, it has to be 4.8.
On-topic:
i've updated to mango with these files and its working like a charm, it feels my trophy is somehow more complete, it works faster, smoother, and it's all the little things that are so cool.
For example the people tile, with nodo it just displayed 9 pictures at the most in the tile, so they were all small pictures, now with mango it sometimes chooses random pics and makes them bigger so the pictures has the size of 4 small pictures.
the way the letters slide away in the people app and in the apps menu.
the icons in text messages, the somewhat different color of send and received messages.
these are the cosmetic changes i've noticed so far, but they are all pretty neat
Neat indeed!
Ie9 let's you see recent history (don't think it was there before Mango)
My phone now let me see Facebook events while on the locked screen (don't think it was there before either)
Is there still no way to upgrade to mango with windows xp?
I had to drop back down to 4.7 for the provision to backup and install the files it needed. I followed the directions from there and it work like a charm. Do they all say not for resale when you boot up?? I also wanted to know if its to buggy can I drop back to the nodo. Now I have to play with the custom ringtones.Thanks for making it so easy.
hey guys, I run the provision file and it worked fine but after it backed up my files it gave me the error code 80181103 and it says "The update folder can't be renamed"
I'm using samsung focus 7.0.7390.0
the only problem im having on my HD7 is that is dropping calls like flies and the problem is the proximity sensor just like the iphone 4 when it came out, have to research and see if anyone esle is having this problem, but everiting else is great!
after eating this sweet mango i dont want nodo anymore
also loving the virtual voicemail
Hey thank you for your guide!
I Want to update my unlocked optimus 7. Dies this method prevent my phone from relocking? And if i Want to get back to Bodo i only habe to restore with my Bodo Backup right?
Best regards
Desmo
So i can try this for on my Omnia 7?
Is there a way to unlock it now after I did the mango update. I would like to put ringtones but I can't seem to install touchexplorer.I really like the mango so far.Is there a way I can get it unlocked with tmobile??
Going to give this a bash over the weekend
stephboyle127 said:
Worked perfectly, everything so far seems to be working. Only thing I've found not to work is to do with my marketplace Orange selects. Have to search for my free apps this month. Also the HTC apps in marketplace throws up the same error. But good work made the process so much easier.
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Quick question, did you get your marketplace problems sorted?
Cheers
This app will allow you to backup some of your xbox live game data to your pc. Currently it only saves 3 xbox games, it can backup and recover. It uses ISETOOL.exe which comes with the microsoft windows phone sdk. I need more Product GUIDS and names of games if you want more added. This only backups up your high scores and saved progress in games.
Current Games Supported:
Angry Birds
Plants Vs. Zombies
Need for Speed: Undercover
Zune must be running and phone cant be pin locked.
THis is running on a HTC HD7 running a custom rom, intrinsic 5.02. Im not sure if this will work on a stock phone or not.
Running backup over an existing saved game will overwrite it wit and update. Enjoy and let me know if you guys want more games, or how it workS!
The basic idea is valid, but stock ROMs can't use it. The Mango version of TouchXperience (which is what WPDM uses to browse your phone) is low-privilege and can only see a limited part of the filesystem.
It does work. but yes, it'll only work on custom roms and with wpdm, because you need it to save the files to your PC and then restore them after the rom flash.
Sent from my HD7 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
Hi,
you should add "only for custom roms" to the title
it did not work with me ..
My phone is chevron unlocked
Even possible for not custom roms...
Hi Community,
I yesterday mentioned to open a thread today, desribing
how to backup your savegames, but you where a bit earlyier .
But I found out, how it works with every interop-unlocked
device (samsung and htc) and even with non custom-roms. You have
to download Windows phone Power Tools
http://wptools.codeplex.com/
which allows you to read and write apps isolated storage
(but only from sideloaded homebrew apps) and
wp root tools 0.8 by [email protected] Also you have to download or
sideload and homebrew app, for exapmple MPA Tool, (which is also an useful app ).
I you dont want this, you can choose any other homebrew application
on your phone and find out its installation path.
Now, if you have wp power tools and wp root tools "by heathcliff"
there are two steps to go:
1. (wp root tools)
you have to navigate to the path of the game (f.e. angry birds)
Applications/Data/E4571A02-0B87.../Data/Isolated Storage
and copy the two files (for other games it can be more than two)
in the isolated storage of your choosen homebrew app (e.g. MPA TOOL).
Applications/Data/7AC990A5-7092....../angry birds
(I created folders in this path to hold it clear...)
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/191/screencapture11a.jpg/
2. windows phone power tools
When this is done connect your phone with zune and run wp power
tools. Under "file browser" you can open the isolated storage of MPA
Tool (or any other homebrew app) and copy the files from the
games to your computer.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/819/powertools.png/
After flasing a new ROM just revert the hole progress...
Malte1234511
PS: I attached a list with the installation paths of many applications,
so its easier for you to find the path...
@Malte1234511: That's only going to work for Samsung gen1 phones. Non-Samsung or even Samsung gen2 phones can't use WP7 Root Tools.
TouchXplorer used to work, but now it onlyworks for very old firmware or custom ROM (after an HTC update disabled it).
aclegg2011...
winphoneviet made WPV App Data Backup (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1223619)
don't want to be offensive but your thread is so useless in front of his work...
please, next time before opening a new one, be aware that perhaps some dudes here already done something usefull about what you "discovered"...
Have a nice time looking for usefull threads
GoodDayToDie said:
@Malte1234511: That's only going to work for Samsung gen1 phones. Non-Samsung or even Samsung gen2 phones can't use WP7 Root Tools.
TouchXplorer used to work, but now it onlyworks for very old firmware or custom ROM (after an HTC update disabled it).
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I just have a 1.Gen Samsung Device and didnt know that wp root tools doesnt work with htc anymore. But here is a solution to backup savegames for Samsung 1.Gen device owner and owners of htc phones with custom roms or old firmware. It may help some users...
NebZoNe said:
aclegg2011...
winphoneviet made WPV App Data Backup (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1223619)
don't want to be offensive but your thread is so useless in front of his work...
please, next time before opening a new one, be aware that perhaps some dudes here already done something usefull about what you "discovered"...
Have a nice time looking for usefull threads
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Maybe I can answer this with another qoute from your thread:
winphoneviet said:
Sadly, some apps & games downloaded directly from Marketplace cannot be backup such as Amazon Kindle. But if u use 3Mktplace to download, patch it and deploy to device, everything work perfectly!
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We want to backup the data from our original Xbox live games. The tool is useful (thanks to winphoneviet) for for some applications, but not for games from the marketplace.
Malte1234511
GoodDayToDie said:
The basic idea is valid, but stock ROMs can't use it. The Mango version of TouchXperience (which is what WPDM uses to browse your phone) is low-privilege and can only see a limited part of the filesystem.
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wpdm and touchexpierence work fine on my HTC hd7 with the custom rom. With touchexpierences file browser I can search through all the apps and games dir just fine. And wpdm can copy the game files from my PC and back to my phone just fine too.
NebZoNe said:
aclegg2011...
winphoneviet made WPV App Data Backup (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1223619)
don't want to be offensive but your thread is so useless in front of his work...
please, next time before opening a new one, be aware that perhaps some dudes here already done something usefull about what you "discovered"...
Have a nice time looking for usefull threads
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wpv backup does your whole phone. This way only backs up the game data, but you need to be on a custom rom.
Blind people won't see anything...never...
NebZoNe said:
Blind people won't see anything...never...
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his tool does backup apps and games data, but not all games and all apps are backed up ie. xboxlive games and downloaded apps from the marketplace. refer to post #1 on how to back up angry birds.
sorry but i didn't wait for that useless thread to backup my xboxlive games...in fact i do that everytime i flash a new rom and i do it since winphoneviet has shared his awesome app...so...have a nice three games backup lol