could it be possible to install a file explorer from wince7 ?
I did a search for a file explorer but I didn't find it .
maybe it is possible to mail the app to your phone and then install it .
there's no sideloading of apps, unless it's in marketplace, which is impossible cos ms won't approve of it in the first place
unless u have a developer phone................
LOL , ok that was stupid of me , Microsoft isn't that stupid
I wouldn't even know if you would find a coherent file system. It could be that the file allocation table is completely new and unique to WP7
AceofSpades25 said:
I wouldn't even know if you would find a coherent file system. It could be that the file allocation table is completely new and unique to WP7
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Looks to me like it will be using exFAT
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=8526857#post8526857
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ExFAT
AceofSpades25 said:
Looks to me like it will be using exFAT
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If that's true, all we need is some kind of jailbreak.
rexian said:
If that's true, all we need is some kind of jailbreak.
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My only concern as a developer is: If I jailbreak it, will Microsoft take away my developer priveleges (e.g. side loading)
don't tell them
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don't tell them
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I wasn't planning on it
It's not like they're going to lock developers out forever because they're "hailbreaking" it. In worst case you can probably undo the jailbreak and go on as usual.
Can someone tell me the difference between a developers phone (side-loading) and a normal one ?
side-loading , is that only a .reg key that is different from a normal phone ?
I think jailbreaking it will be the way to go as I don't see M$ allowing people to access the file system either on the phone or via the computer.
ceesheim said:
Can someone tell me the difference between a developers phone (side-loading) and a normal one ?
side-loading , is that only a .reg key that is different from a normal phone ?
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Side loading will allow developers to install apps that don't come from the app store (for testing purposes)
Not sure how it will work yet, but it will probably require you to have the source which means it probably wont be suitable for pirating
If MS does allow file system access it would probably be similar to the way Apple allowed on the iPod. I'm not sure if you can stilll do this, but before my 30GB classic broke down on me I was able to use it like a thumb drive by selecting a option in iTunes. You could access the file system thru Windows folders, but you couldn't see system files. Then developers could create an app, SNES emulator for example, and create a folder where to add roms.
krjcook said:
If MS does allow file system access it would probably be similar to the way Apple allowed on the iPod. I'm not sure if you can stilll do this, but before my 30GB classic broke down on me I was able to use it like a thumb drive by selecting a option in iTunes. You could access the file system thru Windows folders, but you couldn't see system files. Then developers could create an app, SNES emulator for example, and create a folder where to add roms.
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As long as 3rd party apps will have access to this space as well, then I'd consider that most of the problems I have with the platform resolved.
Related
Windows Phone 7 update will feature full backup, restore points
http://wmpoweruser.com/windows-phone-7-update-will-feature-full-backup-restore-points/
http://www.liveside.net/2011/01/05/...m=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+liveside+(LiveSide)
janemanno1 said:
Windows Phone 7 update will feature full backup, restore points
http://wmpoweruser.com/windows-phone-7-update-will-feature-full-backup-restore-points/
http://www.liveside.net/2011/01/05/...m=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+liveside+(LiveSide)
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sounds good to me...
Old and old
Apologies. It was new to me!
janemanno1 said:
Apologies. It was new to me!
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Some people can't help themselves, I haven't seen this particular picture, so thank you. I'm happy with the progress if this holds true.
As far as I understand, this isn't a new feature and has nothing to do with the update itself. This is how Zune works, and that's what Zune software on your PC does with all devices.
How to change default Backup folder for WP7
Hi,
I updated my HTC HD7 with the latest update yesteday.
The major challanges I faced were,
1) By default Zune was searching for free space on "C:" drive. Typically I dont have much space on C drive.... I had to temporarilly remove some folders to keep going.
2) After the update was over, I realized the space is blocked permanentaly as update has stored the restore point in "Windows Phone Update" folder on the C drive.
can any one help in doing the following...
1) How to move the "Windows Phone Update" to another drive??
2) How to change the default drive to another drive like "D" or "F" so that next time I run the update programme, it takes the space from there.
Thanks.
Ram.
Did anybody try to backup / restore his phone like the zune updater does?
This functionnality is very good but limited to software update for now.
I would love to be able to backup my phone like Zune does.
Just FYI, I've did some tests and it backup all apps (including homebrews), and all registry modifications.
how did you backup it ?
did you use zune for it ?
and do you know how to rebuild the 4mb files to 1 big one and did you manage to extract it ?
ceesheim said:
how did you backup it ?
did you use zune for it ?
and do you know how to rebuild the 4mb files to 1 big one and did you manage to extract it ?
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Looks like he means update's backup.
Useless guy said:
Looks like he means update's backup.
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Yeah, I've done the update backup through Zune.
You may want to start with opening "C:\Program Files\Zune\ZuneDBApi.dll" in .NET Reflector and then open the class MicrosoftZuneLibrary.ZuneLibrary. But prepare for a lot of unsafe C# code.
Good luck!
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You may want to start with opening "C:\Program Files\Zune\ZuneDBApi.dll" in .NET Reflector and then open the class MicrosoftZuneLibrary.ZuneLibrary. But prepare for a lot of unsafe C# code.
Good luck!
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Also with regards to actually using the DLL: it can be done but for just about 100% of calls your exe has to be in the *same Zune directory* as the Zune dlls. This is a huge huge problem for an anal developer like myself that doesn't want to muck up their structure with a random file. It's likely and largely due to the almost 10mb native DLL they use (ZuneNativeLib.dll, the Holy Grail of all Zune work).
This may all just be related to the specific work I was doing which was just to access the music library but a *lot* of the Zune software uses these gates. It makes me wonder how TouchXperience does their backups. You don't need your entire code base to live with the Zune, just a 'proxy' exe/dll of sorts but it is a particular pain point I'll never like but I suppose I understand why MS locked it down.
This app will allow you to backup some of your xbox live game data to your pc. Currently it only saves 3 xbox games, it can backup and recover. It uses ISETOOL.exe which comes with the microsoft windows phone sdk. I need more Product GUIDS and names of games if you want more added. This only backups up your high scores and saved progress in games.
Current Games Supported:
Angry Birds
Plants Vs. Zombies
Need for Speed: Undercover
Zune must be running and phone cant be pin locked.
THis is running on a HTC HD7 running a custom rom, intrinsic 5.02. Im not sure if this will work on a stock phone or not.
Running backup over an existing saved game will overwrite it wit and update. Enjoy and let me know if you guys want more games, or how it workS!
The basic idea is valid, but stock ROMs can't use it. The Mango version of TouchXperience (which is what WPDM uses to browse your phone) is low-privilege and can only see a limited part of the filesystem.
It does work. but yes, it'll only work on custom roms and with wpdm, because you need it to save the files to your PC and then restore them after the rom flash.
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Hi,
you should add "only for custom roms" to the title
it did not work with me ..
My phone is chevron unlocked
Even possible for not custom roms...
Hi Community,
I yesterday mentioned to open a thread today, desribing
how to backup your savegames, but you where a bit earlyier .
But I found out, how it works with every interop-unlocked
device (samsung and htc) and even with non custom-roms. You have
to download Windows phone Power Tools
http://wptools.codeplex.com/
which allows you to read and write apps isolated storage
(but only from sideloaded homebrew apps) and
wp root tools 0.8 by [email protected] Also you have to download or
sideload and homebrew app, for exapmple MPA Tool, (which is also an useful app ).
I you dont want this, you can choose any other homebrew application
on your phone and find out its installation path.
Now, if you have wp power tools and wp root tools "by heathcliff"
there are two steps to go:
1. (wp root tools)
you have to navigate to the path of the game (f.e. angry birds)
Applications/Data/E4571A02-0B87.../Data/Isolated Storage
and copy the two files (for other games it can be more than two)
in the isolated storage of your choosen homebrew app (e.g. MPA TOOL).
Applications/Data/7AC990A5-7092....../angry birds
(I created folders in this path to hold it clear...)
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/191/screencapture11a.jpg/
2. windows phone power tools
When this is done connect your phone with zune and run wp power
tools. Under "file browser" you can open the isolated storage of MPA
Tool (or any other homebrew app) and copy the files from the
games to your computer.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/819/powertools.png/
After flasing a new ROM just revert the hole progress...
Malte1234511
PS: I attached a list with the installation paths of many applications,
so its easier for you to find the path...
@Malte1234511: That's only going to work for Samsung gen1 phones. Non-Samsung or even Samsung gen2 phones can't use WP7 Root Tools.
TouchXplorer used to work, but now it onlyworks for very old firmware or custom ROM (after an HTC update disabled it).
aclegg2011...
winphoneviet made WPV App Data Backup (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1223619)
don't want to be offensive but your thread is so useless in front of his work...
please, next time before opening a new one, be aware that perhaps some dudes here already done something usefull about what you "discovered"...
Have a nice time looking for usefull threads
GoodDayToDie said:
@Malte1234511: That's only going to work for Samsung gen1 phones. Non-Samsung or even Samsung gen2 phones can't use WP7 Root Tools.
TouchXplorer used to work, but now it onlyworks for very old firmware or custom ROM (after an HTC update disabled it).
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I just have a 1.Gen Samsung Device and didnt know that wp root tools doesnt work with htc anymore. But here is a solution to backup savegames for Samsung 1.Gen device owner and owners of htc phones with custom roms or old firmware. It may help some users...
NebZoNe said:
aclegg2011...
winphoneviet made WPV App Data Backup (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1223619)
don't want to be offensive but your thread is so useless in front of his work...
please, next time before opening a new one, be aware that perhaps some dudes here already done something usefull about what you "discovered"...
Have a nice time looking for usefull threads
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Maybe I can answer this with another qoute from your thread:
winphoneviet said:
Sadly, some apps & games downloaded directly from Marketplace cannot be backup such as Amazon Kindle. But if u use 3Mktplace to download, patch it and deploy to device, everything work perfectly!
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We want to backup the data from our original Xbox live games. The tool is useful (thanks to winphoneviet) for for some applications, but not for games from the marketplace.
Malte1234511
GoodDayToDie said:
The basic idea is valid, but stock ROMs can't use it. The Mango version of TouchXperience (which is what WPDM uses to browse your phone) is low-privilege and can only see a limited part of the filesystem.
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wpdm and touchexpierence work fine on my HTC hd7 with the custom rom. With touchexpierences file browser I can search through all the apps and games dir just fine. And wpdm can copy the game files from my PC and back to my phone just fine too.
NebZoNe said:
aclegg2011...
winphoneviet made WPV App Data Backup (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1223619)
don't want to be offensive but your thread is so useless in front of his work...
please, next time before opening a new one, be aware that perhaps some dudes here already done something usefull about what you "discovered"...
Have a nice time looking for usefull threads
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wpv backup does your whole phone. This way only backs up the game data, but you need to be on a custom rom.
Blind people won't see anything...never...
NebZoNe said:
Blind people won't see anything...never...
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his tool does backup apps and games data, but not all games and all apps are backed up ie. xboxlive games and downloaded apps from the marketplace. refer to post #1 on how to back up angry birds.
sorry but i didn't wait for that useless thread to backup my xboxlive games...in fact i do that everytime i flash a new rom and i do it since winphoneviet has shared his awesome app...so...have a nice three games backup lol
I'm not sure if this is possible as ICS has no built in file manager, but is there anywhere I can put an apk file that it would be accessible without one? Specifically I want to be able to open an apk to install a file manager as the first thing I do after flashing a rom, to avoid needing to go through the market.
I thought maybe I could leave it in sdcard/download but it seems like the downloads program is blind to anything in that folder that wasn't officially "downloaded". (I suppose I could upload one to my dropbox and download it via the browser, if there are no viable options). Also made a few stabs at getting the gallery program to show one but it seems to filter out anything that's not a picture or video.
Any ideas for places to stick an apk and get one of the stock programs to let me open it?
maybe email it to yourself?
but you would have to log into the email app to do that
but there isnt really anyway to access the file without a file explorer
Open your favourite rom zip, add your apk to /system/app, save the zip, push that zip to the phone, flash.
Peesashiz said:
maybe email it to yourself?
but you would have to log into the email app to do that
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Yeah in general I'm trying to cut out the step of signing into anything and just restoring my apps from a backup before I need to cancel automatic restore functions (which I do want on and running once I do my own initial run of things).
bk201doesntexist said:
Open your favourite rom zip, add your apk to /system/app, save the zip, push that zip to the phone, flash.
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I'm guessing this comes with the consequence of raising any apk added in this manner to system app level? Not that I distrust the apps I'd have in mind for this to do anything malicious themselves, but is there any danger of opening security holes by elevating apps not designed to be system apps?
What I've done many times is just enabling Air Plane as soon as I can after flashing a ROM. That's way I can install any apk I want.
Hope it helps.
heo_con184 said:
What I've done many times is just enabling Air Plane as soon as I can after flashing a ROM. That's way I can install any apk I want.
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Hmm but then what is your method for getting to that apk? If you do it over wifi that seems to defeat the point, no?
Personally I've found that it works just fine to uncheck the boxes for recovery syncing during the setup process, and then just re-enabling them later in settings. (Alternately, not signing into my google account at all until I've performed a backup). That way even if I end up signing into the market to download a recovery app, it doesn't automatically try to re-download everything else on its own.
I'm starting to think that my dropbox solution will be the cleanest, as it'll be a simple step of opening the browser and downloading a single apk every time at the same link.
I bet that the inclusion of a basic file explorer will be one of those headline items in a future android release. A nice basic functionality that the bloggers can rehash to death before anything actually hits.
Download the file manager apk over wifi and install the APK via download manager.
I do it all the time with Chinese android tablets with no market access.
Or Bluetooth it from another device.
Or just use the market
LTE EX Galaxy Nexus - 4.0.3 AOSP
Asus Transformer - Revolver OC/UV
JoeSyr said:
Hmm but then what is your method for getting to that apk? If you do it over wifi that seems to defeat the point, no?
Personally I've found that it works just fine to uncheck the boxes for recovery syncing during the setup process, and then just re-enabling them later in settings. (Alternately, not signing into my google account at all until I've performed a backup). That way even if I end up signing into the market to download a recovery app, it doesn't automatically try to re-download everything else on its own.
I'm starting to think that my dropbox solution will be the cleanest, as it'll be a simple step of opening the browser and downloading a single apk every time at the same link.
I bet that the inclusion of a basic file explorer will be one of those headline items in a future android release. A nice basic functionality that the bloggers can rehash to death before anything actually hits.
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Transfer by USB from my laptop.
Is there a way to do that in which the device will launch the apk you move over? When I copy files over usb, it only ever puts them into whatever directory, and I need a file explorer to interact with them on the phone. And then I'm back to square one, as far as this particular task is concerned (once things are up and running I just use the LAN option in ES file explorer and it's as convenient as could be).
you have the apk in your computer right?
connect the phone to pc, and use adb to install
'adb install <apk_file_name.apk>'
Ah. I haven't used adb since I first unlocked/rooted a few months ago. Guess it probably pays to be a little familiar with those tools; they don't even occur to me when problem solving these days.
JoeSyr said:
Ah. I haven't used adb since I first unlocked/rooted a few months ago. Guess it probably pays to be a little familiar with those tools; they don't even occur to me when problem solving these days.
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mark thread as solved then, if that solved it
Well a completely in-phone solution would still be nice, but I guess if there were any of those they'd have come up by now.
I'll probably use abd if I'm actively working at my computer and a dropbox download otherwise.
I am unable to update to any new build ATM because my memory is full of failed updates. My Temporary files for build updates is over 2gb and nothing I have tried can clear them out. I don't want to go through the trouble if rolling back or hard resetting, I just want the garbage gone!
I can't recall offhand which directory it was, but after enabling Full FileSystem Access and connecting to PC, I was able to locate were all of the temporary updates are stored. There were hundreds of folders in there with number and letter strings for names, so nothing is easily identifiable. And of course it wouldn't let me delete anything either.
Does anyone have any idea how to identify and delete these failed updates?
Hardreset.
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Hardreset.
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I specifically stated i don't want to do that.. But I know, because this OS is full of holes that's probably the only solution.
Still though, there has to be away to delete the files. If we can replace in-use files like the notification icons on lock screen, we should be able to remove dead update files.
"I was able to locate were all of the temporary updates are stored."
Where?
titi66200 said:
"I was able to locate were all of the temporary updates are stored."
Where?
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I'll look again and let you know. I'm pretty sure I saved a print screen of it on my laptop.
You need to enable Mass Storage with WP Internals.
I would love to know where they are stored, keep us updated
Sorry for the delay.. here is the screenshot of the directory i mentioned.
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Sorry for the delay.. here is the screenshot of the directory i mentioned.
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Delete all in this directory? This is needless files?
In the Downloads folder i believe, yes. However they can't simply be deleted, it does not allow it. I'm taking an educated guess that this is where the update files are stored, as it's a similar directly to where the PC stores Windows Updates.
ive managed to delete the temporary files and clear up every bit of space they took up. im going to post a guide for this, so check it out if you need help.