There r some 2.2 roms which are not downgradable. I flashed a 2.2 pay's rom and then tried to restore a nand backup of 2.1 rom but the phone kept restarting from boot screen. The 2.2 rom being non downgradable was causing this? How and where can i find downgradable roms?
No one knows this? please reply i'm in a great trouble
its impossible
There is no way for you to downgrade to Eclair once you're on FroYo...
shad0wboss said:
There r some 2.2 roms which are not downgradable. I flashed a 2.2 pay's rom and then tried to restore a nand backup of 2.1 rom but the phone kept restarting from boot screen. The 2.2 rom being non downgradable was causing this? How and where can i find downgradable roms?
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im pretty sure you can if you used the chinese rom in such a way as jboogie.
Jt612 said:
im pretty sure you can if you used the chinese rom in such a way as jboogie.
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I had jboogie, can you tell me how i could do it?
I managed to return to 2.1.
I had the Finland ROM, wiped it, restored a 2.34.1 nandroid backup then flashed the 2.21 bootloader.
The only problem is that vibration is entirely gone now [probably because the nandroid backup wasn't really that cool]. Does anyone know how to enable it again?
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its impossible
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Nothing is impossible, I believe what you have to do is flash to a higher rom which has downgradibility and then go to original from there hence bypassing the problem I might be wrong hopefully someone can give backing.
Goodluck
-jabba
koltzu said:
I managed to return to 2.1.
I had the Finland ROM, wiped it, restored a 2.34.1 nandroid backup then flashed the 2.21 bootloader.
The only problem is that vibration is entirely gone now [probably because the nandroid backup wasn't really that cool]. Does anyone know how to enable it again?
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Can you explain in more detail, please?
Latest roms all allow direct downgrade from 2.2 to 2.1, or from later 2.1 to early 2.1. Yet it is still possible to downgrade. You have to restore from backup of the old rom, and then flash a boot-only sbf to fool the bootloader.
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Latest roms all allow direct downgrade from 2.2 to 2.1, or from later 2.1 to early 2.1. Yet it is still possible to downgrade. You have to restore from backup of the old rom, and then flash a boot-only sbf to fool the bootloader.
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Basically when i restore the 2.1 backup on 2.2 sbf, the phone keeps restarting...after this do i have to flash a bootloader so that it loads? would that work? because flashing the bootloader is the only thing i haven't done.
It is possible do downgrade. I made it like user in this topic http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=985312 and I also have not got haptic feedback :/
Now flashing 2.51 and see what will happen.
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Phone is not booting after flashing. It seems like it was redirecting one bootloader to another and then boot system. Also some features like haptic feedback are inside bootloader.
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Can you explain in more detail, please?
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I installed Clockwork recovery to my Defy, booted into it and then restored a 2.34.1 Nandroid backup that a friend of mine gave me. Then I flashed the 2.21 bootonly sbf.
It booted but there's no vibration whatsoever, no vibe during calls, using the capacitive keys or moving a widget/app around on the homescreen. Also entering the camera just makes the OS freeze.
I've also tried it with 2 other Nandroid backups and it's the same thing.
It's the bootloader I guess so there's nothing to do
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Hey guys,
I've got the latest update OTA ready to install, but since my device is rooted I'm wondering what do I do?
I've read threads stating to just update and re root it and others say it won't go through and I'd have to disable signatures in clockwork recovery !
hence I'm confused, please help
Cheers
Jackie
Its not safe to perform official ota updates on rooted devices.
Most of the time nothing happens, you just lose root. But anything could happen from losing your custom recovery to a non booting device, which is known to happen.
If you want updated software on your phone install a custom rom.
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same situation, my question is can i apply this RUU from PC, and what will happen exactly? Lose root, data?
i found this RUU RUU_Bravo_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.29.405.5_Radio_32.49.00.32U_5.11.05.27_release_159811_signed
you can apply that RUU but you will lose root and all of your data so back everything up beforehand.
you may also need a Goldcard depending on whether your phone was unbranded from new or not.
mikep99 said:
you can apply that RUU but you will lose root and all of your data so back everything up beforehand.
you may also need a Goldcard depending on whether your phone was unbranded from new or not.
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I know about the Goldcard. Any idea on how to do a backup, i have read about using Titanium but i found it confusing. Little help would be useful
yeah, just use Titanium and back up all user apps as a batch process.
Backuo/Restore at the top of the initial screen.
Menu button and choose Batch
Then Backup all user apps.
you can then restore them after you've flashed the RUU.
also, make sure your contacts are backed up (probably by Google / Gmail).
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yeah, just use Titanium and back up all user apps as a batch process.
Backuo/Restore at the top of the initial screen.
Menu button and choose Batch
Then Backup all user apps.
you can then restore them after you've flashed the RUU.
also, make sure your contacts are backed up (probably by Google / Gmail).
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OK, but there is an option all apps and data. what is data? is it app data?
Just back up user apps.
You don't want to restore any system data as you are changing roms.
Also, make sure you do a nand backup to go back to if needed.
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mikep99 said:
Just back up user apps.
You don't want to restore any system data as you are changing roms.
Also, make sure you do a nand backup to go back to if needed.
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Did it just now, went fine. Thanks for the help
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So there is still no way to just update by update.zip?
I dont want to reflash my whole phone, I got everything backed up propper
but I find it crap because its just a very small update.
Just ignore the update then, if your phone is working fine
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hmm an official update from htc, great. but if you are rooted and have tried a custom rom or even many such as me, then you dont want to loose that ability to flash great custom roms, just because htc released an update.
i am not sure, but i think that some users just unrevoked (rooted) their devices, but havent installed any custom roms and dont have the joy of it. i never want go to back to original rom. my future updates would be out of a custom rom. great forum here, love it
I just use the stock rom because i'm happy with it.
I rooted my phone because some apps wont work without it. I would try a custom rom but I still remember my HD2 and all the reconfigging I had to do.
Can you flash custom roms without reconfiguring everything?
Like.. when I flashed the last update.zip (405.2) I just installed it and I could start using my phone right away after the update. thats how I like it, but im not sure (more unsure) that this will work the same when I use a custom rom right?
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I just use the stock rom because i'm happy with it.
I rooted my phone because some apps wont work without it. I would try a custom rom but I still remember my HD2 and all the reconfigging I had to do.
Can you flash custom roms without reconfiguring everything?
Like.. when I flashed the last update.zip (405.2) I just installed it and I could start using my phone right away after the update. thats how I like it, but im not sure (more unsure) that this will work the same when I use a custom rom right?
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so you installed the latest update.zip on a rooted device? and did not loose your root functionality?
I'm willing to reroot my phone, I just wanna know if a rooted device when update could mess up !?
I wanna try custom ROMs sadly I can't due to the rebooting issue, will be sending in for repair soon this week !
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so you installed the latest update.zip on a rooted device? and did not loose your root functionality?
I'm willing to reroot my phone, I just wanna know if a rooted device when update could mess up !?
I wanna try custom ROMs sadly I can't due to the rebooting issue, will be sending in for repair soon this week !
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Rooting your device voids your warranty just as much as flashing a custom rom would. Either way would have to use the stock ruu before you send if back so it makes no difference if your stock rooted or have a custom rom.
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(firstly sorry for my bad english)
Hey,
I have downloaded http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1037076 this rom. I flashed it to my Motorolda Defy (before I had Eclair update1 .CEE). I used RSDlite. Now I have this 2.2.2-177.
Any backups, anything, I 'updated' my official Eclair and later clicked in settings 'Restore to Factory Settings' and 'Format SD-card'.
1. Is there any possibilty to downgrade back to Eclair?
2. Now I have not warranty, right? What to do to have it back?
3. When Motorola will make an official Froyo, I will have possibilty to flash it to my device (instead 2.2.2-177 nordic)?
4. Is there any good FAQ/guide for novices? About backups (what is nandroid, titanium backup, etc.), roms (how to flash, what is it, etc.), revovery, restore, wipe, bootloader and more things like it?
5. What I should do after installing this rom which I have now?
6. 2ndinit is to use instead a clockmod recovery?
Thanks, Pararocker
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(firstly sorry for my bad english)
Hey,
I have downloaded http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1037076 this rom. I flashed it to my Motorolda Defy (before I had Eclair update1 .CEE). I used RSDlite. Now I have this 2.2.2-177.
Any backups, anything, I 'updated' my official Eclair and later clicked in settings 'Restore to Factory Settings' and 'Format SD-card'.
1. Is there any possibilty to downgrade back to Eclair?
2. Now I have not warranty, right? What to do to have it back?
3. When Motorola will make an official Froyo, I will have possibilty to flash it to my device (instead 2.2.2-177 nordic)?
4. Is there any good FAQ/guide for novices? About backups (what is nandroid, titanium backup, etc.), roms (how to flash, what is it, etc.), revovery, restore, wipe, bootloader and more things like it?
5. What I should do after installing this rom which I have now?
6. 2ndinit is to use instead a clockmod recovery?
Thanks, Pararocker
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1 yes
2 yes, they can see you flasher a leaked rom. No chance of getting warranty back. Ones u flashed an undowngradable sbf without fix, you have to use tricks to install new sbf's.
3 normally you could.
4 nand backup is backup of system and data you can store on your sd-card.
To flash downgr rom onto a nondowngr, first root and install custom recovery, restore a nand backup of the rom you can find on the treat of that rom and install fixed sbf.
In the first post in Android dev is described how to make a fixed sbf.
There is a treat in and dev al about how to downgrade. Use search bar.
5 if you like this rom, there is nothing you have to do.
6 you can use it to speed the process of recovering for dev.
It can also more imp. run custom roms instead of those of motorola.
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Thanks,
what is fixed SBF? I have read about it in nordic-177-treat, but nowhere I found information what it is.
I flashed my rom with RSDlite, using SBF file. I had to fix it (how?) before installing? Or what?
So if Motorola makes an official rom and I flash it into my device, I won't have warranty back?
No chance to have it back? (wiping all data etc and flashing an another rom, futere official rom?)
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How to know which rom I can now install instead this which I have now?
Now I have:
-System version: Moto_Version.34.177.5.Retail.en.ND
-Firmware: 2.2.2
-Baseband: EPU93_U00.59.1
-Kernel: [email protected] #1
-Swype 2.25.67.18418
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Where I should look which room I can install now? They have to have lower number to 177 or what?
eg. I know that I can't install Eclair ROM, but do I can install nordic-155? Or chineese official rom? And how to check it myself?
Pararocker said:
Thanks,
what is fixed SBF? I have read about it in nordic-177-treat, but nowhere I found information what it is.
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I have this doubt either....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=966537
It's a link with all the sbf (firmware's).
An sbf is a combination of different partitions. Just read the link.
The leaked beta rom's are compiled with different checksum for 2 partitions.
At the button of the page there's a title downgrade. Follow that and there's no chance to not be able to downgrade or install possible official upgrades without loosing warranty.
If you would have flashed a undowngradeable rom, you can do flash updates the same as you would flash an undowndradeable.
Pararocker said:
So if Motorola makes an official rom and I flash it into my device, I won't have warranty back?
No chance to have it back? (wiping all data etc and flashing an another rom, futere official rom?)
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How to know which rom I can now install instead this which I have now?
Now I have:
Where I should look which room I can install now? They have to have lower number to 177 or what?
eg. I know that I can't install Eclair ROM, but do I can install nordic-155? Or chineese official rom? And how to check it myself?
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Now your on an undowngradable rom. This means IF something would happen that could fall under warranty, try to restore a nandbackup and flash a fixed official rom. It could be that they discover it, i don't know what they do with returned phone's. Someone already posted that he got his phone back with a new motherboard because he ****ed something up.
You can flash all leaked and beta sbf's now without having to worry about warranty.
i think our forum is so much jumbled and crowded with soo much great stuffs
please i would like to request something to pick up for flashing and other questions . i am finding difficulty in initializing my research on my defy
Requesting your co operation to link up some threads in proper order to work with and start from some sort of START / FIRST READ ME GUIDE
sorry for the request its just i dont like my defy to get bricked (soft or hard).
Thank you
Just a question: which version of Android is your Defy running? I know most Defys run Eclair, but some are already being sold with Froyo installed. This affects directly on the flashing process: if you have Eclair, you have to make a special kind of backup. You know, custom firmwares void your warranty.
If your Defy has Froyo and you flash another Froyo ROM (or CM7, which is Gingerbread), you can easily switch back to your stock firmware if you need to send your device to repair. If your stock ROM is Eclair, and you flash Froyo or Gingerbread, without the special backup, you won't be able to downgrade.
IMO this is a good place to start. Waiting for your reply in order to send further instructions.
Iam also having the same problem. I bought mine two days ago.. And I don't know where to start from..
My defy has eclair.. And I bought it in india.. So I should backup first?
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A good place to start is the wiki, it has all the starter info you need http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=File:Motorola_Defy.jpg
K3n H1mur4 said:
Just a question: which version of Android is your Defy running? I know most Defys run Eclair, but some are already being sold with Froyo installed. This affects directly on the flashing process: if you have Eclair, you have to make a special kind of backup. You know, custom firmwares void your warranty.
If your Defy has Froyo and you flash another Froyo ROM (or CM7, which is Gingerbread), you can easily switch back to your stock firmware if you need to send your device to repair. If your stock ROM is Eclair, and you flash Froyo or Gingerbread, without the special backup, you won't be able to downgrade.
IMO this is a good place to start. Waiting for your reply in order to send further instructions.
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thanks for your prompt reply, i am running eclair as my stock rom 2.59 deblur edition (india) so please guide me for what you been talking as "special backup"
We both have same defy.. Waiting for a good answer..
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I also got really lost in the first days, but you just have to have the discipline and patience to read a lot, after a few days of reading the defy boards here at xda I felt ready to start modding it.
hi, i need help too.
im a bit confused.
defy is my first android phone
just rooted it yesterday w/ superoneclick.
my phone is still on eclair 2.1
build no.
jdnem u3 2.51.0 which i believe is from india
can i update it to any froyo? how? i wanna try cm7 and other custom roms and able to downgrade.pls help and give step by step nooby instructions.
thanks defy community
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This page lists the important threads in an organized way:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Motorola_Defy
The threads linked however, can have over a hundred pages So it may not be what you are looking for
K3n H1mur4 said:
If your Defy has Froyo and you flash another Froyo ROM (or CM7, which is Gingerbread), you can easily switch back to your stock firmware if you need to send your device to repair.
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Thanks!
A question about that:
I have a new defy with OTA froyo update from T-Mobile USA. If I want another froyo rom, do I need to flash the sbf/firmware, or can I just do a nandroid recovery of the new rom with clockworkmod?
Zach21 said:
Thanks!
A question about that:
I have a new defy with OTA froyo update from T-Mobile USA. If I want another froyo rom, do I need to flash the sbf/firmware, or can I just do a nandroid recovery of the new rom with clockworkmod?
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If you flash a new sbf without a wipe, you will keep all your apps etc, whereas you'll have to back everything up and reinstall if u do a nandroid. i recommend backing up either way.
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If you flash a new sbf without a wipe, you will keep all your apps etc, whereas you'll have to back everything up and reinstall if u do a nandroid. i recommend backing up either way.
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Thanks!
I don't really have anything on this phone to keep since its new, data and apps can be wiped out completely.
I do want to get rid of the motoblur apps.
So this is what I plan on:
Root (already done)
Install CWM
Backup my existing rom on sdcard
Copy new rom to sdcard
Flash new rom with CWM
Say goodbye to Motoblur
I imagine I will need to do a couple of data wipes in the process. I assume before backup and before flashing.
Will this work? Motoblur gone for good?
Update:
WORKS
I highly recommend JBoogie3 roms. Quick and easy.
Since I am a noob to all of this and still taking baby steps I need help.
I would like to update froyo 2.1 to 2.2 to my already rooted Evo 4g, rooted with Unrevoked.
What OTA trustworthy file/link should I use?
How do I proceed step wise?
And will I lose Root and does it really matter, since I can just Re-root?
Also will I lose my current flashed phone information if I update Froyo?
Thanks in advanced
Edit: Flashed to Gingerbread 2.3.3 Awesome!
If you re rooted then it's a simple matter of picking what you like from the below link and flashing it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=653
If I flash will I lose any data?
Meaning will I have to reprogram the phone to work for data and phone services?
Starburst13 said:
If I flash will I lose any data?
Meaning will I have to reprogram the phone to work for data and phone services?
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Just backup your apps in titanium backup and you'll be good to go.
Cool thanks, the apps were the least of my concerns, but I did do the titanium backup.
I actually love the cloud server/sync they offer now. It's almost transparent power wise too.
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If I flash will I lose any data?
Meaning will I have to reprogram the phone to work for data and phone services?
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You should always wipe data, cache and dalvik cache when flashing a new rom. Yes you will lose your app's and data, but you will not have to reprogram the phone with sprint.
Any suggestions on a worthy Rom?
Is there any RUU rom for Froyo 2.2? the RUU radios work really well so far.
Oh and thanks for the valuable info so far.
Starburst13 said:
Any suggestions on a worthy Rom?
Is there any RUU rom for Froyo 2.2? the RUU radios work really well so far.
Oh and thanks for the valuable info so far.
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Is there a reason you want froyo? There are plenty of gingerbread roms out there including stock gingerbread ones.
No your right I don't actually need Froyo, but I would like to keep a stable environment for Sprint Navagator, which is the only Bloatware I have left and I have a few applications for work I need that need 2.2 Android for, but other than those reasons I don't need Froyo.
Just a stable rom that I can flash easily with Clockwork, in recovery mode.
Thanks.
Issue Resolved....Went with Gingerbread 2.3.3 Awesome! Hands down. Then used titanium backup to restore my apps. Donating money to Gingerbread developers now.
Sorry for noob question but is it possible to do this? If not how would I restore my Desire HD to the official Rom after installing a custom one?
Thanks in advance.
T90
armadacd55 said:
Sorry for noob question but is it possible to do this? If not how would I restore my Desire HD to the official Rom after installing a custom one?
Thanks in advance.
T90
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You can back it up in the clockworldmod recovery in the ''backup & restore'' option.
actually depends of the version i think... because the newer versions are rootable only via downgrade. so to be able to install custom recovery aka clockworkmod/4ext, you need to downgrade first. in which case, you cant.
it may be possible to downgrade, root, flash cwm/4ext, flash newer stock, all without wipe, and then backup, but this is just a guess, i havent tied it, since 1st thing i have done when i got my phone i rooted it
edit: this was a guess since i understood you want to keep data
if you dont care about data, of course it is possible. but unrooting is something a bit different, still very doable
yes, with clockworldmod and ext4 and remember after you backed up your rom copy the clockworldmod/ext4 folder to your pc