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Sorry if this has been addressed but I searched and have not seen any updates in days, and those were just interested people no developers. Have all the developers given on this? Very disappointed here.
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What are you asking about it?
I have fresh rom and hdmi out works great, just wish there was a way to see the whole thing instead of just pics/movies.
last year I had the htc omnia with windowsmobile and could connect it to tv with av cables and see whole system on tv, it was only cool feature about it....lol
Sorry for not specifying, I meant full external monitor support. I bought a bluetooth keyboard and mouse specifically for this purpose and feel completely ripped off. Thought one of the devs would have a solution a week after the phone came out but no one seems to care at all
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I'm pretty excited about this too. Hopefully it will happen eventually.
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Not to sound disheartening or anything, but I just don't think there is that much of a demand for this.
I am sure that one of the devs will get it going sometime though, just might be a while.
I think if the demand's not there, it's only because people haven't thought much about the possibilities. I'm thinking of a future where you don't own a desktop computer. Instead, you come home from work, drop your phone into a cradle that charges the phone and makes a video connection to a monitor. The phone then pairs with a bluetooth keyboard and mouse literally becoming a computer and when you leave for work the next morning you take your computer with you as a phone.
Granted, the Evo is a little short on specs to be a main computer for most (it's probably about equal to a '02 Compaq Presario 5400) but I expect the performance will improve dramatically in future models considering some of the tech that's rumored to be on the horizon. I'd really like to see it happen with the Evo just to show the possibilities if nothing else. Besides, with the bluetooth changes in CM6 allowing the use of input devices, we're halfway there. Just need to get that pesky video out problem solved.
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I think if the demand's not there, it's only because people haven't thought much about the possibilities. I'm thinking of a future where you don't own a desktop computer. Instead, you come home from work, drop your phone into a cradle that charges the phone and makes a video connection to a monitor. The phone then pairs with a bluetooth keyboard and mouse literally becoming a computer and when you leave for work the next morning you take your computer with you as a phone.
Granted, the Evo is a little short on specs to be a main computer for most (it's probably about equal to a '02 Compaq Presario 5400) but I expect the performance will improve dramatically in future models considering some of the tech that's rumored to be on the horizon. I'd really like to see it happen with the Evo just to show the possibilities if nothing else. Besides, with the bluetooth changes in CM6 allowing the use of input devices, we're halfway there. Just need to get that pesky video out problem solved.
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You & I buddy, we see things the same way.
Maybe we should take a poll of the community to gague interest on who might actually use this feature if the dev's got it working.
Personally I would love to see this technology paired with a USB HOST driver so that we can dock our EVO's into something and actually energize not only the monitor but also be connected to anything tethered to the dock via USB. (keyb/mouse mainly, but also storage!)
I hope you don't feel 'ripped off' by the development community who seems to give 110% almost all the time, and instead feel 'ripped off' by HTC not providing this type of functionality out of the gate, which in my mind would TOTALLY be a game changer.
Anyhow, you're not alone, it just seems we've got no developer to champion our cause just yet, or if we do, i'm not aware.
--- Now, I know it's not gonna help us with the EVO/HDMI interaction we're thinking about here but i'm personally hoping that by the time Intel's LightPeak lands in cell phones that manufacturers start to grasp this "cellphone centric" world view that we have.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/194226/intel_says_its_light_peak_optical_cables_may_succeed_usb.html
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You & I buddy, we see things the same way.
Maybe we should take a poll of the community to gague interest on who might actually use this feature if the dev's got it working.
Personally I would love to see this technology paired with a USB HOST driver so that we can dock our EVO's into something and actually energize not only the monitor but also be connected to anything tethered to the dock via USB. (keyb/mouse mainly, but also storage!)
I hope you don't feel 'ripped off' by the development community who seems to give 110% almost all the time, and instead feel 'ripped off' by HTC not providing this type of functionality out of the gate, which in my mind would TOTALLY be a game changer.
Anyhow, you're not alone, it just seems we've got no developer to champion our cause just yet, or if we do, i'm not aware.
--- Now, I know it's not gonna help us with the EVO/HDMI interaction we're thinking about here but i'm personally hoping that by the time Intel's LightPeak lands in cell phones that manufacturers start to grasp this "cellphone centric" world view that we have.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/194226/intel_says_its_light_peak_optical_cables_may_succeed_usb.html
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USB host is a great idea. Not only for input devices and storage but also optical drives, scanners, and printers. Imagine ripping a DVD to mp4 for your phone using your phone (while docked). Of course the apps would have to be there to support those devices, but surely they would follow. Right now I'd be extremely happy just to see the basic groundwork in place (which it is excepting full UI out over hdmi). As to feeling ripped off, a few months ago I wouldn't have even thought it possible that a phone could do this. I don't feel ripped off a bit, definitely not by the development community, not even by HTC really. If anything I'm just really excited by the possibilities and willing to lend my voice to express support/interest so that hopefully the devs won't overlook this as something nobody's interested in.
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What are you asking about it?
I have fresh rom and hdmi out works great, just wish there was a way to see the whole thing instead of just pics/movies.
last year I had the htc omnia with windowsmobile and could connect it to tv with av cables and see whole system on tv, it was only cool feature about it....lol
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What do you mean see the whole thing? Please elaborate for those of us who have yet to buy an hdmi cable.
I thought it would simply go into "mirror" mode, so whatever you see on your evo is mirrored on the TV, like how desktops work. Is that not the case?
Not the case.
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What do you mean see the whole thing? Please elaborate for those of us who have yet to buy an hdmi cable.
I thought it would simply go into "mirror" mode, so whatever you see on your evo is mirrored on the TV, like how desktops work. Is that not the case?
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Nope, it just shows pictures, videos, youtube, etc...
http://www.monoprice.com/products/subdepartment.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10253&cs_id=1025301
Cables are cheap though, buy one anyway. I keep one plugged into my TV and coiled up behind it. I just pull it out and plug my phone in if I want to show certain pictures/videos from my phone.
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Not the case.
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So, when you're using apps/games, they DO NOT display on the TV?
Geeze, what's the point then?
timmymacnj said:
Sorry for not specifying, I meant full external monitor support. I bought a bluetooth keyboard and mouse specifically for this purpose and feel completely ripped off. Thought one of the devs would have a solution a week after the phone came out but no one seems to care at all
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Its not that no one cares, its that it is going to RIDICULOUSLY HARD to get full HDMI out on the EVO. I've looked into it a fair amount with the intent of coming out with an app similar to Real HDMI for the EVO. The trick for getting full HDMI out for the Droid X won't work at all for EVO due to the way HTC (and possibly Sprint) have the software stack configured for HDMI output. Long story short, it will take a dev with massive experience/knowledge to get this working since it will require a hack at the kernel/ROM level as it looks impossible to get it working at the app layer.
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Nope, it just shows pictures, videos, youtube, etc...
http://www.monoprice.com/products/subdepartment.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10253&cs_id=1025301
Cables are cheap though, buy one anyway. I keep one plugged into my TV and coiled up behind it. I just pull it out and plug my phone in if I want to show certain pictures/videos from my phone.
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Thanks for the link, I put it on my "To Buy" queue for Monoprice
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Its not that no one cares, its that it is going to RIDICULOUSLY HARD to get full HDMI out on the EVO. I've looked into it a fair amount with the intent of coming out with an app similar to Real HDMI for the EVO. The trick for getting full HDMI out for the Droid X won't work at all for EVO due to the way HTC (and possibly Sprint) have the software stack configured for HDMI output. Long story short, it will take a dev with massive experience/knowledge to get this working since it will require a hack at the kernel/ROM level as it looks impossible to get it working at the app layer.
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Yeah I guess it is just my ignorance showing through, or maybe I just had my hopes too high. The attitude around here seems to be that our friends here will find a solution to any problem they throw at us, and I may have taken a little too much stock in that. Its not so much that I am saddened by the lack of success, it is just that with lots of searching, I can't seem to find one prominent developer working on this (barely mentioning it). I suppose I am just being a cry baby, but it is just a bummer when I look at the changelogs on roms/kernels, and I see some of the issues they spend their time working on vice things like this. I suppose if CyanogenMod didnt have to be elbow deep in WIMAX (the only other remaining feature I am dying for) this might be a different story. /Cry over
@timmymacnj: You could also post on HTC's facebook page and write to them as well. After all, if the Droid X can do it, then that's a feature that makes the Droid X better than the Evo.
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Not to sound disheartening or anything, but I just don't think there is that much of a demand for this.
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The industry as a whole is very short sighted. I use a Clarion Mind running XP SP3 as my carpc (800Mhz Atom, 512MB Ram) with no issues. Smart phones now are not to far off in specs. I've been waiting for some time for a "workstation in my pocket" type solution.
The EVO hardware supports "USB Host", HDMI (or DVI w/ an adapter), Bluetooth, WiFi, and others. All we need is USB Host (w/ HID ,mass storage, USB hub and LAN dongle support), full UI out via HDMI and bluetooth HID support. I have drawings for a dock on my workbench that has 2 usb ports, 10/100 port, 2.5" HD and DVI out. Throw in an office suite and a couple other apps and you end up with that "workstation in your pocket". Have the phone manufacturers charge $150 for it and buyers would still save money over an EVO plus netbook combo. There are a lot of companies that would benefit by giving their employees laptops but can't afford, this is an answer to that problem.
Real innovation is generally left to devs and hardware geeks. Then a couple years later the manufacturers say "Look at our cool new thingy aren't we the smart ones!"
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The industry as a whole is very short sighted. I use a Clarion Mind running XP SP3 as my carpc (800Mhz Atom, 512MB Ram) with no issues. Smart phones now are not to far off in specs. I've been waiting for some time for a "workstation in my pocket" type solution.
The EVO hardware supports "USB Host", HDMI (or DVI w/ an adapter), Bluetooth, WiFi, and others. All we need is USB Host (w/ HID ,mass storage, USB hub and LAN dongle support), full UI out via HDMI and bluetooth HID support. I have drawings for a dock on my workbench that has 2 usb ports, 10/100 port, 2.5" HD and DVI out. Throw in an office suite and a couple other apps and you end up with that "workstation in your pocket". Have the phone manufacturers charge $150 for it and buyers would still save money over an EVO plus netbook combo. There are a lot of companies that would benefit by giving their employees laptops but can't afford, this is an answer to that problem.
Real innovation is generally left to devs and hardware geeks. Then a couple years later the manufacturers say "Look at our cool new dock aren't we the smart!"
My $0.02
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When you say that smartphones today aren't too far off in spec from your Car PC, the EVO actually bests it (unless I'm missing something)!
Seriously. Talk about Eating Microsoft's lunch!
I'm glad to hear that i'm not living on a planet all by my lonesome wanting this to come true. I know it's a mountain and a half of work but at this point, it makes me sad to think.
"It really is just software"
I feel like I missed my calling when I could have learned how to code that software but chose another path instead.
Does anyone have any connections to dev's who have thought about tackling this? Specifically might the mountain be made into a little more like a large hill if we could apply some of the HDMI code base from something like the DROID X and apply it to the EVO? Is this just too much wishful thinking?
So, the FM radio is now working in CM nightly 116. I expect that means 4G will be coming at some point in the not too distant future and hopefully with those out of the way we'll see HDMI out getting some attention. I remember reading some articles back in July saying that full HDMI out was going to be a feature in CM6. Obviously that didn't happen, but hopefully it was just postponed and not abandoned. If full HDMI does make an appearance on the Evo, I expect that a later CM rom is where we'll see it first.
I believe a lot more people would be running CM ROMs if that happens...
Well guys we all know how amazing these phones are with our devs apps, tweaks, roms, kernels, etc. People who dont have an evo simply cant understand how amazing these things are! Now with that said a little more work and i think that we can start the way in the next step of technology. As im sure most of us know there is a way to have bluetooth input options (keyboard and mouse) and we have the nifty HDMI out plug built into our phone. HOWEVER we have yet to find a way to have the entire screen able to be shown on a tv. If we can get our screen in its entirety to be transferred to your favorite xx inch HDTV, bluetooth mouse and keyboard, and the hdmi cord do we not have a computer? (maybe a computer for 2000-2002 but a computer none the less)
Is there anyone behind this idea? Any devs that can or want to assist? Im shocked at the lack of development on this compared to all the other areas we have improved our phones!
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you're really not gonna want an 800x480 desktop blown up to 40+ inches....
No, but it would seriously kick ass to be able to connect to the 800x600 7" touchscreen monitor in my truck and use it for a car pc (beside the win7 box I built for it). Google Navigation is way cooler than any windows app unless you need trip agenda's or other fancy stuff.
There's a guy who did a mymobiler type app but it requires the android sdk to be installed etc. Supposedly mymobiler is making an android version but again that would require windows to be preseting (along with the requisite computer). It would be cool to be able to connect directly to a monitor.
I really want this too!! I would be more than willing to pay for this or donate to who ever can make this happen. I used this feature a lot on my TP2 and assumed my Evo would also be able to do it. The fact that I wanted to do this, and the Evo has an HDMI output was a HUGE selling point for me. I was very dissapointed to find out that it did not do this out of the box. I assumed that a developer would have this solved in no time though, so it wasnt as big of a deal. Now, here we are months later and still unable to do this it is a big let-down.
I dont want it for using my phone as a computer, I can connect my 17" laptop to my 52" Sony LED if I want to do that. I just want to be able to hook up my phone for watching movies and for gaming and showing other things to a group of people who can not all gather around the Evo's screen to see it. I know we can watch movies through the gallery, but I dont like being limited....and not being limited is what I love about Android. Also, watching movies through Gallery has always been a but buggy for me, not sure why.
Anyway, I know this is a long post. BUT, this is on the top of my list as for things that I want to do on my Evo next. I am happy with my current ROM, Kernal, current apps, games, etc.. I just want to be able to have full access on my tv of everything that is on my Evo's screen and I would be fully satisfied with my Evo right now. Please, some one make this happen!! I would be forever grateful!!
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I really want this too!! I would be more than willing to pay for this or donate to who ever can make this happen. I used this feature a lot on my TP2 and assumed my Evo would also be able to do it. The fact that I wanted to do this, and the Evo has an HDMI output was a HUGE selling point for me. I was very dissapointed to find out that it did not do this out of the box. I assumed that a developer would have this solved in no time though, so it wasnt as big of a deal. Now, here we are months later and still unable to do this it is a big let-down.
I dont want it for using my phone as a computer, I can connect my 17" laptop to my 52" Sony LED if I want to do that. I just want to be able to hook up my phone for watching movies and for gaming and showing other things to a group of people who can not all gather around the Evo's screen to see it. I know we can watch movies through the gallery, but I dont like being limited....and not being limited is what I love about Android. Also, watching movies through Gallery has always been a but buggy for me, not sure why.
Anyway, I know this is a long post. BUT, this is on the top of my list as for things that I want to do on my Evo next. I am happy with my current ROM, Kernal, current apps, games, etc.. I just want to be able to have full access on my tv of everything that is on my Evo's screen and I would be fully satisfied with my Evo right now. Please, some one make this happen!! I would be forever grateful!!
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Exactly. im just looking for a step in the right direction.
The MHL port on the HTC One X is a real MHL port.
Now, you probably didn't think you had to worry about such a thing, but owners of the Galaxy SIII have discovered that it has a fake MHL port.
There's more about this here, but the main take away is that you should avoid Samsung branded MHL accessories as some of them won't work with the real MHL.
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The MHL port on the HTC One X is a real MHL port.
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Now, now. The SGS3's MHL port is fine and works as advertised. People are pissed that in order to use it they need to buy a new MHL adapter that's required on the SGS3 and all newer Samsung devices because they changed the design. People that have the HTC D100 MediaLink that no longer works on the One series feel the same way.
And speaking of "ports," until we get USB To Go working, people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
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Now, now. The SGS3's MHL port is fine and works as advertised. People are pissed that in order to use it they need to buy a new MHL adapter that's required on the SGS3 and all newer Samsung devices because they changed the design. People that have the HTC D100 MediaLink that no longer works on the One series feel the same way.
And speaking of "ports," until we get USB To Go working, people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
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It was advertised as having an MHL port. There have been 100 different MHL products, shipping 50 million units in 2011 alone, and every one of them is compatible with the HTC One X.
Like all of them, the SGSIII is advertised as supporting MHL, but is compatible with none of them. You consider that to be working as advertised?
And what makes you think that Sammie will use the same connector on future products. They have never said that, and given that they don't feel confined by any requirement for compatibility, they are now free to use a new connector on every successive generation.
As for HTC's proprietary MediaLink, that's bad too, but HTC communicated very clearly with their users so there was no misunderstanding or false advertising.
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It was advertised as having an MHL port. There have been 100 different MHL products, shipping 50 million units in 2011 alone.
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And probably used by less than 5-10% of smartphone owners. I want my team to win as badly as you do but this really isn't that big a deal. And within a couple of weeks you'll be able to find new Chinese MHL adapters that work with the new pin out for $5. You also skipped over our lack of USB To Go which impacts just as big an audience. No phone's perfect and will please everyone equally. Samsung will sell just as many gazillion SGS3's with or without this "expose."
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...I want my team to win as badly as you do but this really isn't that big a deal...
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This has nothing to do with 'team'. I'm not even clear what you think my team is (I don't have an HTC One X).
I guess if I had a team it would be consumers and standards.
A vendor releasing a product that still has bugs (if that is the problem with your USB on-the-go) is pretty ordinary. A vendor under-cutting a standard and intentionally tricking their users the way that Samsung has is rather new.
If you think this is no big deal then you must roll over at anything. And if that is people's reaction when a vendor pulls a move like this then I guess they can get away with pretty much anything.
I also don't think it is the XDA way to say that others should just roll over and stop whining. That's the Apple (iSheep) way, not the XDA way.
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I don't have an HTC One X... ...I guess if I had a team it would be consumers and standards.
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Since this is a One X forum and your crusade is consumerism in general, you really don't belong here. There are plenty of real and far more significant issues we're having with HTC regarding warranties and quality and timing of repairs than to take on a crusade we have no investment in. This thread will be closed soon anyway.
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Since this is a One X forum and your crusade is consumerism in general, you really don't belong here. There are plenty of real and far more significant issues we're having with HTC regarding warranties and quality and timing of repairs than to take on a crusade we have no investment in. This thread will be closed soon anyway.
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But what's wrong with my promoting a consumer issue? I have no personal financial or professional interest in this - I'm putting an effort into this because I believe in standards. Is that really the sort of thing that deserves to be shut down?
As for why I put a message in the general forum for the One X it is because a One X owner could well purchase a Samsung MHL adapter thinking that it would work with their phone and it might not (depending on which one they get).
I know that you have more important issues, but every post doesn't have to pass a 'most important issue' test, particularly in the general forum.
I don’t see this as such a big issue. Because in most cases you need to buy a MHL adaptor anyway, so why not get the Samsung official accessory for $30 and be done with it? After all, $30 is not a huge amount when talking about a $700 phone; and its not something most people would want anyway. MHL is a wired connection, so even for those extremely few people who actually have a MHL capable device, adding a small dongle and connecting over HDMI is not going to add any bulk anyway. The only instance I would see this as a problem is if companies start to come up with small portable tablet extensions like the Padfone utilizing the MHL standard. But so far there are no such devices, and if it really becomes a hit, I’m pretty sure Samsung will release another simpler cable adaptor to support the standard MHL interface.
All in all, like BarryH_GEG said , there are far more pressing issues with One X compared to S3 than a small non conformity of a relativity new/unpopular standard (for which there is a working solution = buy the samsung adapter). When I was considering which to buy even though I knew about the MHL issue, I couldn't care less ; not because I don't use it (in fact I do have a generic MHL adapter for my One X), its because it was really not an issue worth considering.
So the feature works as intended? Great, then we don't need a thread for it...
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I know the GS3 is not quite as big but I still would love to have this feature. Its better than pop up play imo. You think it will come to our phone too? Or can it be ported?
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I know the GS3 is not quite as big but I still would love to have this feature. Its better than pop up play imo. You think it will come to our phone too? Or can it be ported?
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My completely unresearched and basically almost baseless guess would be that it can't be ported. Seems like something that would have to have some fairly deep-level hooks to work. I'm with you though, it's a feature I'd love to have on my GS3 too... might have limited uses, but if nothing else I can think of all the times I've copied a URL from an eMail (because it wasn't hyperlinked) and jumped to my browser... I'd imagine that's a bit nicer with this mechanism.
I also tend to doubt it'll come as an upgrade, at least not for a long time if ever... Samsung needs to have something other than size to differentiate the two devices... the stylus too of course... that's a totally unique feature in current Android devices, not sure they'd want to "back-port" it to an "older" device, certainly not for a while I'd think. I WOULD however be surprised if it didn't make its way into the inevitable GS4. That seems like a safe bet.
I just switched from iPhone to Note II and I'm pretty pissed I can't just plug into my cars USB port and have it play through the speakers anymore...
I have a 2012 Honda FIt that has a built in USB port and it worked fine with iPhone. When I plug in the Note II, I get a "Unsupported" message on the car stereo. Anyone have a workaround for getting apps to play through the microUSB properly?
Maybe this plus the cable you already have? http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B007SXINGK
Not sure never owned an apple product in my life. I prefer bluetooth because I hate wires.
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Maybe this plus the cable you already have?
Not sure never owned an apple product in my life. I prefer bluetooth because I hate wires.
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Not sure you really read my question...
To clarify: when I plug the micro USB cord from my Note II to the USB port built in to my car's stereo, it doesn't work like it should.
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Not sure you really read my question...
To clarify: when I plug the micro USB cord from my Note II to the USB port built in to my car's stereo, it doesn't work like it should.
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Zing!.... But seriously though, I wouldn't mind and answer to this as well. Building a custom dash in my car and it would be hella convenient to just build in a little cradle to set my n2 in for my music. My head unit has the usb, but just pluging things together doesn't do it... Maybe a "dock mode" or something that is missing?
Edit... Why would anyone EVER suggest a product that has basically 1.5 stars? It's obviously crap.
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No I read it. I just didn't take the time to post the whole thing from my phone. There doesn't appear to anything that will help you immediately to achieve what you want at this time other than using the cable I showed you or if you have Bluetooth use that or you can get a Bluetooth to FM transmitter. All things that will get the music to your radio.
after taking 5 minutes with a quick google search I turned up that until 4.+ android there was no way to do this. However, I don't think Samsung implemented it with the note 2 since I couldn't find anything about it. I did however turn up the items I mentioned.
It looks like if that is what you want and you aren't willing to invest in the way Android works Android isn't for you and you should probably return the device and get an iPhone again. The USB drive you mentioned probably uses the Apple protocol and USB mass storage protocol neither of which the note can perform. If you have a 3.5mm connector that would allow you to connect it as well. My wife's vehicle had this as an input option that I quickly changed to a Bluetooth connection with a simple like item from Amazon.
Android's Bluetooth protocol is amazing after ice cream sandwich, auto connecting to my vehicle's stereo everytime I start my truck and with Tasker/Automateit one can even have it auto launch your music apps. with the awesome battery life of this device, which the iPhone can't touch, I don't even bother to plug it in and just leave it in my pocket jump in and bam Pandora starts playing. When I turn off my truck it stops on it's own and I go about my day.
now that is not to say I am not incorrect and there is another solution that would get you going the way you want. However there are a lot of people on XDA way smarter at these phones than I am and none of them have Chimed in yet so that isn't a good sign because generally the really knowledgeable people waste no time Answering questions.
The 30 pin connector from your previous iOS devices have way more abilities than the 4 to 5 pin micro USB port does. Which is great but limits people to the Apple Ecosystem, which is great for Apple's pocket book. Not so great for a person wishing to move to another device. This is why I always tell people if you are invested in Apple just stick with them and if android then stick with android. Nothing funnier than an idiot *****ing because their Apps don't work anymore after changing from one to the other.
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No I read it. I just didn't take the time to post the whole thing from my phone. There doesn't appear to anything that will help you immediately to achieve what you want at this time other than using the cable I showed you or if you have Bluetooth use that or you can get a Bluetooth to FM transmitter. All things that will get the music to your radio.
after taking 5 minutes with a quick google search I turned up that until 4.+ android there was no way to do this. However, I don't think Samsung implemented it with the note 2 since I couldn't find anything about it. I did however turn up the items I mentioned.
It looks like if that is what you want and you aren't willing to invest in the way Android works Android isn't for you and you should probably return the device and get an iPhone again. The USB drive you mentioned probably uses the Apple protocol and USB mass storage protocol neither of which the note can perform. If you have a 3.5mm connector that would allow you to connect it as well. My wife's vehicle had this as an input option that I quickly changed to a Bluetooth connection with a simple like item from Amazon.
Android's Bluetooth protocol is amazing after ice cream sandwich, auto connecting to my vehicle's stereo everytime I start my truck and with Tasker/Automateit one can even have it auto launch your music apps. with the awesome battery life of this device, which the iPhone can't touch, I don't even bother to plug it in and just leave it in my pocket jump in and bam Pandora starts playing. When I turn off my truck it stops on it's own and I go about my day.
now that is not to say I am not incorrect and there is another solution that would get you going the way you want. However there are a lot of people on XDA way smarter at these phones than I am and none of them have Chimed in yet so that isn't a good sign because generally the really knowledgeable people waste no time Answering questions.
The 30 pin connector from your previous iOS devices have way more abilities than the 4 to 5 pin micro USB port does. Which is great but limits people to the Apple Ecosystem, which is great for Apple's pocket book. Not so great for a person wishing to move to another device. This is why I always tell people if you are invested in Apple just stick with them and if android then stick with android. Nothing funnier than an idiot *****ing because their Apps don't work anymore after changing from one to the other.
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Ok, so you read it but you didn't understand it and don't know what you're talking about... You also went off on a ridiculous tangent about the differences between iPhone and Android, which was completely useless... Thanks anyways.
I am sorry I couldn't help you. perhaps being appreciative of my attempt would get someone else to help you rather than being rude about it. I was attempting to educate you that you didn't buy an iOS device and shouldn't expect it to act like one. Good luck now I will be surprise if anyone else even bothers with you with that attitude. You're the one that bought a phone before bothering to research it and assumed it would work like an iOS device. The phone works exactly like it SHOULD it doesn't however work exactly like you THINK it should. That is not a failure of the device.
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I was being nice and it was the only thing that I found that would possibly do what he was asking. Seriously what is with all the hate for someone just trying to help out. Why wouldn't you put Bluetooth into something that you are building that is that path that Android has taken not the path of cables.
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I am sorry I couldn't help you. perhaps being appreciative of my attempt would get someone else to help you rather than being rude about it. I was attempting to educate you that you didn't buy an iOS device and shouldn't expect it to act like one. Good luck now I will be surprise if anyone else even bothers with you with that attitude. You're the one that bought a phone before bothering to research it and assumed it would work like an iOS device. The phone works exactly like it SHOULD it doesn't however work exactly like you THINK it should. That is not a failure of the device.
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Dude, seriously, read what you just said. You were attempting to educate me that I didn't buy an iOS device; thank you Captain Obvious. I know what phone I have and that is why I posted in the Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II forum.
I don't want it to "work like an iPhone". It's ridiculous for you to say that I'm crazy for thinking that my $700 (if purchased unlocked) smartphone SHOULD be able to output audio via the USB port like other smartphones (other Android and iPhones work fine in my car), thus using the DAC directly instead of having to use the lower quality 3.5mm headphone jack or Bluetooth A2DP.
Anyways, to anyone who wants to be helpful, I've found that the issue has something to do with the fact that Samsung seems to have changed the way that the Note II and S3 operate the USB port. Anyone have any ideas for restoring the previous functionality of the port? Thanks!
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Ok, so you read it but you didn't understand it and don't know what you're talking about... You also went off on a ridiculous tangent about the differences between iPhone and Android, which was completely useless... Thanks anyways.
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he was exactly correct....the protocol has not been implemented.
there is no way to know it will be.
give it time or go back to the iphone seems to be the only applicable responses...so pick one.
I too went wireless back in 2008 so can't be of much more help than that.
Everything I listen to works over my head unit via bt.
isnt bt standard on the fit?
ok now wait...are you looking for dac ...hell thats been a samsung issue across multiple devices for a while...though i thought I read it was fixed now. it was an issue on the orig note..the skyrocket.. variants of the s2 seems like one or two more as well.
guess it was not fixed.
you might edit your original post ...wording it as two apps won't stream over usb like on my iphone is harder for some to understand you are talking about dac
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Here this will do exactly what you want it to do.
http://www.sprint.com/landings/iphone/
It's from sprint I assume you use sprint since you are in the Sprint galaxy note 2 forums.
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Man everyone tells I phone users to switch then when they do you tell them to go back. I'm not positive but I think an otg cable will allow you to do what you need. Seems to be what this guy is using. I could be completely wrong.
http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f...-note-2-while-using-usb-dac-how-please-14029/
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Here this will do exactly what you want it to do.
http://www.sprint.com/landings/iphone/
It's from sprint I assume you use sprint since you are in the Sprint galaxy note 2 forums.
Zing to you too.
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You're kind of pathetic... Get a life.
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Man everyone tells I phone users to switch then when they do you tell them to go back. I'm not positive but I think an otg cable will allow you to do what you need. Seems to be what this guy is using. I could be completely wrong.
http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f...-note-2-while-using-usb-dac-how-please-14029/
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oooooo i have that cable. will see if i can try it. usb is tucked behind dash though
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Otg let's your phone host usb devices. It's not what you're looking for.
There's a mod that lets you mount your sd card in msc mode...but it won't let you listen to streaming services.
I believe there's a kernel in the dev forum that enables usb audio. This would not likely interface with your car's usb port. What you need is a usb to 3.5mm splitter
It's just like plugging in via the audio port get this way you only need to plug one cable to you phone.
And you are kinda rude.
swyped all these spelling errors from my galaxy note 2
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...other Android and iPhones work fine in my car...
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So you have had android devices that could play pandora, spotify and the like via USB? Ive never had a device personally capable of dping that. My wifes head unit can play Pandora but i think that might be Bluetooth only, it its definitely only Pandora though. I was able to mount as mass storage in the Android 2.3 days, but even with the USB audio in 4+ i doubt if any current market product has the capabilities to control the music like it does the iPhone. I'm sure iPhone uses proprietary software in your stereo to deccoe the audio stream and unfortunately Android is lacking in any manufacturers supporting it.
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I get that but did you read the link?
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Otg let's your phone host usb devices. It's not what you're looking for.
swyped all these spelling errors from my galaxy note 2
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There are some aftermarket stereos that interface with android.
There is no magic cable that will make your stock stereo work with your Note's Pandora.
I'd like to know exactly what differences you notice between a 3.5mm cord and bypassing the DAC while using your stock audio system.
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There are some aftermarket stereos that interface with android.
There is no magic cable that will make your stock stereo work with your Note's Pandora.
I'd like to know exactly what differences you notice between a 3.5mm cord and bypassing the DAC while using your stock audio system.
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Thanks.
I would prefer to use the usb plug because I don't have to adjust my headphone output every time I plug it in and because I only need one cable to charge and listen to music. I have read that a lot of car stereos use the "iPod Out" feature of the iPhone and this is why it won't interface properly with Android devices. It's too bad someone hasn't been able to make an app/hack that would emulate this function and intercept the audio out from an Android phone. I can't believe that I'm the only one who is interested in using the usb plug built into their cars for the purpose of charging and listening to music from their smartphones... I guess it's time to spend the money on replacing my factory stereo with an aftermarket head unit with bluetooth.
I just fm transmit my music. I'm not sure of the bitrate difference between bt and a fm signal but it's useable. Then I can use my car charger.
Honestly I just got an iPod for music. Had the same problem and couldn't find a solution. I use spotify so I just download my tracks offline and play them through the iPod. Its also good to have something relatively cheap (its a 2nd gen) to use while working out, who wants to have this huge phone on them while working out. Its great for a lot of things but that iPod out is great considering I can change tracks using the steering wheel. For everything else I have my note 2.
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