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Any updates on hdmi out?

Sorry if this has been addressed but I searched and have not seen any updates in days, and those were just interested people no developers. Have all the developers given on this? Very disappointed here.
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What are you asking about it?
I have fresh rom and hdmi out works great, just wish there was a way to see the whole thing instead of just pics/movies.
last year I had the htc omnia with windowsmobile and could connect it to tv with av cables and see whole system on tv, it was only cool feature about it....lol

Sorry for not specifying, I meant full external monitor support. I bought a bluetooth keyboard and mouse specifically for this purpose and feel completely ripped off. Thought one of the devs would have a solution a week after the phone came out but no one seems to care at all
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I'm pretty excited about this too. Hopefully it will happen eventually.
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Not to sound disheartening or anything, but I just don't think there is that much of a demand for this.
I am sure that one of the devs will get it going sometime though, just might be a while.

I think if the demand's not there, it's only because people haven't thought much about the possibilities. I'm thinking of a future where you don't own a desktop computer. Instead, you come home from work, drop your phone into a cradle that charges the phone and makes a video connection to a monitor. The phone then pairs with a bluetooth keyboard and mouse literally becoming a computer and when you leave for work the next morning you take your computer with you as a phone.
Granted, the Evo is a little short on specs to be a main computer for most (it's probably about equal to a '02 Compaq Presario 5400) but I expect the performance will improve dramatically in future models considering some of the tech that's rumored to be on the horizon. I'd really like to see it happen with the Evo just to show the possibilities if nothing else. Besides, with the bluetooth changes in CM6 allowing the use of input devices, we're halfway there. Just need to get that pesky video out problem solved.

tonyz2897 said:
I think if the demand's not there, it's only because people haven't thought much about the possibilities. I'm thinking of a future where you don't own a desktop computer. Instead, you come home from work, drop your phone into a cradle that charges the phone and makes a video connection to a monitor. The phone then pairs with a bluetooth keyboard and mouse literally becoming a computer and when you leave for work the next morning you take your computer with you as a phone.
Granted, the Evo is a little short on specs to be a main computer for most (it's probably about equal to a '02 Compaq Presario 5400) but I expect the performance will improve dramatically in future models considering some of the tech that's rumored to be on the horizon. I'd really like to see it happen with the Evo just to show the possibilities if nothing else. Besides, with the bluetooth changes in CM6 allowing the use of input devices, we're halfway there. Just need to get that pesky video out problem solved.
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You & I buddy, we see things the same way.
Maybe we should take a poll of the community to gague interest on who might actually use this feature if the dev's got it working.
Personally I would love to see this technology paired with a USB HOST driver so that we can dock our EVO's into something and actually energize not only the monitor but also be connected to anything tethered to the dock via USB. (keyb/mouse mainly, but also storage!)
I hope you don't feel 'ripped off' by the development community who seems to give 110% almost all the time, and instead feel 'ripped off' by HTC not providing this type of functionality out of the gate, which in my mind would TOTALLY be a game changer.
Anyhow, you're not alone, it just seems we've got no developer to champion our cause just yet, or if we do, i'm not aware.
--- Now, I know it's not gonna help us with the EVO/HDMI interaction we're thinking about here but i'm personally hoping that by the time Intel's LightPeak lands in cell phones that manufacturers start to grasp this "cellphone centric" world view that we have.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/194226/intel_says_its_light_peak_optical_cables_may_succeed_usb.html

bobsbobbers said:
You & I buddy, we see things the same way.
Maybe we should take a poll of the community to gague interest on who might actually use this feature if the dev's got it working.
Personally I would love to see this technology paired with a USB HOST driver so that we can dock our EVO's into something and actually energize not only the monitor but also be connected to anything tethered to the dock via USB. (keyb/mouse mainly, but also storage!)
I hope you don't feel 'ripped off' by the development community who seems to give 110% almost all the time, and instead feel 'ripped off' by HTC not providing this type of functionality out of the gate, which in my mind would TOTALLY be a game changer.
Anyhow, you're not alone, it just seems we've got no developer to champion our cause just yet, or if we do, i'm not aware.
--- Now, I know it's not gonna help us with the EVO/HDMI interaction we're thinking about here but i'm personally hoping that by the time Intel's LightPeak lands in cell phones that manufacturers start to grasp this "cellphone centric" world view that we have.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/194226/intel_says_its_light_peak_optical_cables_may_succeed_usb.html
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USB host is a great idea. Not only for input devices and storage but also optical drives, scanners, and printers. Imagine ripping a DVD to mp4 for your phone using your phone (while docked). Of course the apps would have to be there to support those devices, but surely they would follow. Right now I'd be extremely happy just to see the basic groundwork in place (which it is excepting full UI out over hdmi). As to feeling ripped off, a few months ago I wouldn't have even thought it possible that a phone could do this. I don't feel ripped off a bit, definitely not by the development community, not even by HTC really. If anything I'm just really excited by the possibilities and willing to lend my voice to express support/interest so that hopefully the devs won't overlook this as something nobody's interested in.

metalmenance said:
What are you asking about it?
I have fresh rom and hdmi out works great, just wish there was a way to see the whole thing instead of just pics/movies.
last year I had the htc omnia with windowsmobile and could connect it to tv with av cables and see whole system on tv, it was only cool feature about it....lol
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What do you mean see the whole thing? Please elaborate for those of us who have yet to buy an hdmi cable.
I thought it would simply go into "mirror" mode, so whatever you see on your evo is mirrored on the TV, like how desktops work. Is that not the case?

Not the case.

Neo3D said:
What do you mean see the whole thing? Please elaborate for those of us who have yet to buy an hdmi cable.
I thought it would simply go into "mirror" mode, so whatever you see on your evo is mirrored on the TV, like how desktops work. Is that not the case?
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Nope, it just shows pictures, videos, youtube, etc...
http://www.monoprice.com/products/subdepartment.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10253&cs_id=1025301
Cables are cheap though, buy one anyway. I keep one plugged into my TV and coiled up behind it. I just pull it out and plug my phone in if I want to show certain pictures/videos from my phone.

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Not the case.
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So, when you're using apps/games, they DO NOT display on the TV?
Geeze, what's the point then?

timmymacnj said:
Sorry for not specifying, I meant full external monitor support. I bought a bluetooth keyboard and mouse specifically for this purpose and feel completely ripped off. Thought one of the devs would have a solution a week after the phone came out but no one seems to care at all
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Its not that no one cares, its that it is going to RIDICULOUSLY HARD to get full HDMI out on the EVO. I've looked into it a fair amount with the intent of coming out with an app similar to Real HDMI for the EVO. The trick for getting full HDMI out for the Droid X won't work at all for EVO due to the way HTC (and possibly Sprint) have the software stack configured for HDMI output. Long story short, it will take a dev with massive experience/knowledge to get this working since it will require a hack at the kernel/ROM level as it looks impossible to get it working at the app layer.

Sb22 said:
Nope, it just shows pictures, videos, youtube, etc...
http://www.monoprice.com/products/subdepartment.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10253&cs_id=1025301
Cables are cheap though, buy one anyway. I keep one plugged into my TV and coiled up behind it. I just pull it out and plug my phone in if I want to show certain pictures/videos from my phone.
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Thanks for the link, I put it on my "To Buy" queue for Monoprice

snowpunter said:
Its not that no one cares, its that it is going to RIDICULOUSLY HARD to get full HDMI out on the EVO. I've looked into it a fair amount with the intent of coming out with an app similar to Real HDMI for the EVO. The trick for getting full HDMI out for the Droid X won't work at all for EVO due to the way HTC (and possibly Sprint) have the software stack configured for HDMI output. Long story short, it will take a dev with massive experience/knowledge to get this working since it will require a hack at the kernel/ROM level as it looks impossible to get it working at the app layer.
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Yeah I guess it is just my ignorance showing through, or maybe I just had my hopes too high. The attitude around here seems to be that our friends here will find a solution to any problem they throw at us, and I may have taken a little too much stock in that. Its not so much that I am saddened by the lack of success, it is just that with lots of searching, I can't seem to find one prominent developer working on this (barely mentioning it). I suppose I am just being a cry baby, but it is just a bummer when I look at the changelogs on roms/kernels, and I see some of the issues they spend their time working on vice things like this. I suppose if CyanogenMod didnt have to be elbow deep in WIMAX (the only other remaining feature I am dying for) this might be a different story. /Cry over

@timmymacnj: You could also post on HTC's facebook page and write to them as well. After all, if the Droid X can do it, then that's a feature that makes the Droid X better than the Evo.

Kornsaq said:
Not to sound disheartening or anything, but I just don't think there is that much of a demand for this.
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The industry as a whole is very short sighted. I use a Clarion Mind running XP SP3 as my carpc (800Mhz Atom, 512MB Ram) with no issues. Smart phones now are not to far off in specs. I've been waiting for some time for a "workstation in my pocket" type solution.
The EVO hardware supports "USB Host", HDMI (or DVI w/ an adapter), Bluetooth, WiFi, and others. All we need is USB Host (w/ HID ,mass storage, USB hub and LAN dongle support), full UI out via HDMI and bluetooth HID support. I have drawings for a dock on my workbench that has 2 usb ports, 10/100 port, 2.5" HD and DVI out. Throw in an office suite and a couple other apps and you end up with that "workstation in your pocket". Have the phone manufacturers charge $150 for it and buyers would still save money over an EVO plus netbook combo. There are a lot of companies that would benefit by giving their employees laptops but can't afford, this is an answer to that problem.
Real innovation is generally left to devs and hardware geeks. Then a couple years later the manufacturers say "Look at our cool new thingy aren't we the smart ones!"
My $0.02

Lokifish said:
The industry as a whole is very short sighted. I use a Clarion Mind running XP SP3 as my carpc (800Mhz Atom, 512MB Ram) with no issues. Smart phones now are not to far off in specs. I've been waiting for some time for a "workstation in my pocket" type solution.
The EVO hardware supports "USB Host", HDMI (or DVI w/ an adapter), Bluetooth, WiFi, and others. All we need is USB Host (w/ HID ,mass storage, USB hub and LAN dongle support), full UI out via HDMI and bluetooth HID support. I have drawings for a dock on my workbench that has 2 usb ports, 10/100 port, 2.5" HD and DVI out. Throw in an office suite and a couple other apps and you end up with that "workstation in your pocket". Have the phone manufacturers charge $150 for it and buyers would still save money over an EVO plus netbook combo. There are a lot of companies that would benefit by giving their employees laptops but can't afford, this is an answer to that problem.
Real innovation is generally left to devs and hardware geeks. Then a couple years later the manufacturers say "Look at our cool new dock aren't we the smart!"
My $0.02
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When you say that smartphones today aren't too far off in spec from your Car PC, the EVO actually bests it (unless I'm missing something)!
Seriously. Talk about Eating Microsoft's lunch!
I'm glad to hear that i'm not living on a planet all by my lonesome wanting this to come true. I know it's a mountain and a half of work but at this point, it makes me sad to think.
"It really is just software"
I feel like I missed my calling when I could have learned how to code that software but chose another path instead.
Does anyone have any connections to dev's who have thought about tackling this? Specifically might the mountain be made into a little more like a large hill if we could apply some of the HDMI code base from something like the DROID X and apply it to the EVO? Is this just too much wishful thinking?

So, the FM radio is now working in CM nightly 116. I expect that means 4G will be coming at some point in the not too distant future and hopefully with those out of the way we'll see HDMI out getting some attention. I remember reading some articles back in July saying that full HDMI out was going to be a feature in CM6. Obviously that didn't happen, but hopefully it was just postponed and not abandoned. If full HDMI does make an appearance on the Evo, I expect that a later CM rom is where we'll see it first.

I believe a lot more people would be running CM ROMs if that happens...

Aftermarket headphones with mics don't work for making calls on the GSIII?

Hey Guys, I am VERY frustrated with this phone.
I have 2 pairs of awesome aftermarket phones that I have used for years on various phones to make and receive calls: Klipsch s4is and Bose E2s, which have worked on: iphone 4, iphone 4s, nexus one, LG G2x.
I just sold my 4s to get a GS3, and now, the headphones are not recognized by the phone app. WHen I dial out, I cant hear anything, and the mic doesn't register my sounds. There is no option for wired headset in the phone sources section of the phone app (which has a bluetooth option, and a speaker option, but not a wired headset option).
Is there any solution to this? If not, I'm immediately selling. I can't imagine that this is the most popular android device. I'm already dealing with the stock mail app not showing or syncing Exchange sub-folders, which is very, very annoying. Combine that with the headphone issue, and I'm already ready to bail. Please help!

Your gonna sell your phone because of a headset ? Buy a bluetooth headset on ebay and thats it.
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shahkam said:
Your gonna sell your phone because of a headset ? Buy a bluetooth headset on ebay and thats it.
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not everybody wants to carry two things that need to be charged or the need to spend more money. i gotta say it really bothers me that i cant listen to music and cant switch to calls because it just doesnt work.

qben88 said:
not everybody wants to carry two things that need to be charged or the need to spend more money. i gotta say it really bothers me that i cant listen to music and cant switch to calls because it just doesnt work.
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Well i use the stock headset and they work just fine im not an audiophile but in my opinion it is okay ..
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Sounds like you are still loyal to I phones, and probably not ready for the s3. Probably best for you to stay where your loyalty lies.
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mike102871 said:
Sounds like you are still loyal to I phones, and probably not ready for the s3. Probably best for you to stay where your loyalty lies.
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Loyalty? What are you talking about. I'm about quality and features, not loyalty. In fact, to be loyal to a phone sounds completely wacko to me.
I'll repeat for everyone: I just called Samsung tech support. They have confirmed that aftermarket headsets DO NOT WORK ON THIS PHONE.
The also confirmed that: exchange sub-folders DO NOT WORK ON THIS PHONE.
You're telling me that is acceptable on their premier device? That is a joke. I will most definitely be selling this phone for one that supports the most basic, basic functionality.
BTW, I tested the phones on 5 different phones at the ATT and TMO stores and the Samsung kiosk at the mall. The headphones work on none of them. The 2nd tier customer support at Samsung has zero helpful information, and no date to fix. This is pathetic. I'll be getting rid of this phone now. If anyone wants a brand new white 32gb GS3 for TMO with an elago case and screen protector, let me know.

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Your gonna sell your phone because of a headset ? Buy a bluetooth headset on ebay and thats it.
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Not responsive to my post.
Secondly, bluetooth? i don't use bluetooth. i use high grade wired earphones with mic: Klipsch and Bose. THE DEVICE DOESN'T SUPPORT THEM.

silverghozt said:
Loyalty? What are you talking about. I'm about quality and features, not loyalty. In fact, to be loyal to a phone sounds completely wacko to me.
I'll repeat for everyone: I just called Samsung tech support. They have confirmed that aftermarket headsets DO NOT WORK ON THIS PHONE.
The also confirmed that: exchange sub-folders DO NOT WORK ON THIS PHONE.
You're telling me that is acceptable on their premier device? That is a joke. I will most definitely be selling this phone for one that supports the most basic, basic functionality.
BTW, I tested the phones on 5 different phones at the ATT and TMO stores and the Samsung kiosk at the mall. The headphones work on none of them. The 2nd tier customer support at Samsung has zero helpful information, and no date to fix. This is pathetic. I'll be getting rid of this phone now. If anyone wants a brand new white 32gb GS3 for TMO with an elago case and screen protector, let me know.
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Exchange sub folders work fine, I use them for work every day. (FYI, I have about 20 sub folders to my inbox.)

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Exchange sub folders work fine, I use them for work every day. (FYI, I have about 20 sub folders to my inbox.)
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Interestingly, tier 2 Samsung support contradicted you this afternoon. They don't work on mine, and the support person confirmed the feature is not supported.

silverghozt said:
Interestingly, tier 2 Samsung support contradicted you this afternoon. They don't work on mine, and the support person confirmed the feature is not supported.
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Her advice was also to buy a third party exchange app.

Have you tried them using a non touchwiz rom? That might be a solution

I have the same problem, but it only happens on "3 buttons" headset. If you use "one button" headset, it works fine with S3.
Example: I have Bose MIE2 (universal) and MIE2i (dedicated volume buttons for iPhone).
MIE2 (one button) does not disconnect when making calls, but MIE2i gets disconnected everytime when making call and I have to re-plug to make it work again.

My brother has piece of sh it headphones from Walmart with a built in answer button and mic. It works just fine...
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silverghozt said:
Hey Guys, I am VERY frustrated with this phone.
I have 2 pairs of awesome aftermarket phones that I have used for years on various phones to make and receive calls: Klipsch s4is and Bose E2s, which have worked on: iphone 4, iphone 4s, nexus one, LG G2x.
I just sold my 4s to get a GS3, and now, the headphones are not recognized by the phone app. WHen I dial out, I cant hear anything, and the mic doesn't register my sounds. There is no option for wired headset in the phone sources section of the phone app (which has a bluetooth option, and a speaker option, but not a wired headset option).
Is there any solution to this? If not, I'm immediately selling. I can't imagine that this is the most popular android device. I'm already dealing with the stock mail app not showing or syncing Exchange sub-folders, which is very, very annoying. Combine that with the headphone issue, and I'm already ready to bail. Please help!
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I feel your pain. The first time I realized that my headsets didn't work with the S3 I was baffled. And it sucks that every time I'm listening to music with my earphones and I get a call, I have to pull the phone out and answer the call using the earpiece and mic on the phone. Totally stupid and frustrating. I hope it gets fixed soon. It's also really funny how the buttons work (one, not 3 on 3-button headsets like mine) to pause and skip tracks but the mic doesn't. Stupid.
On the Exchange Folders front, all folders do show up. The way I access them (I have multiple exchange accounts set up) is to hit the account drop down and then tap on show all folders. So the Samsung support person you talked to was wrong on that front.
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silverghozt said:
Not responsive to my post.
Secondly, bluetooth? i don't use bluetooth. i use high grade wired earphones with mic: Klipsch and Bose. THE DEVICE DOESN'T SUPPORT THEM.
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My original Android wired headphones (that came with the Nexus One) work perfectly with the T-Mobile SGSIII to play music and make/receive calls. The call comes in, the music pauses and I answer the call, talk to the caller, hear them perfectly and end the call using the headset button. There something wrong with either your headset (I'm leaning in this direction) or your phone.
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Maybe the headphones you are using are only for iphone?

Bose high quality lol
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Have you tried them using a non touchwiz rom? That might be a solution
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This
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I have used wired and BT headphones from 3 different companies and I can listen to music and make calls with all of them.
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I have klipsch 4S Androids and they work fantastic on my SGS3. Personally, I love the headset and the Mic on it works great. I know klipsch say the iPhone ones don't work on android. But I agree, you should buy a different phone. You must like what you buy when you spend on a top of the line phone.
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Galaxy Player as bluetooth headset. Personal experience?

Have any of you tried using a Galaxy player as a bluetooth headset for the tablet to make phone calls? If so, how did you fare?
I'm thinking of picking up a used Galaxy player 3.6 to use as a headset paired to the 3g GN 10.1 I just ordered. I've never been a fan of bluetooth earpiece which have to remain in-ear constantly, I like the idea of answering a pocketable, phonelike alternative that I could also use to spot check emails while I leave the note in my backpack while commuting. I dont care about the performance of the player for gaming and the display size, obviously if I have the time to care about what im looking at I'd be whipping out the tablet. Just looking to see if anyone has done this and enjoyed it, or if I should just bite the bullet and buy a traditional BT headset.
Any suggestions on viable, handset-like alternative from other companies is welcome, too.

While looking into whether the GN 10.1 can be used for voice cell phone calls in the US, I stumbled across this handy - if weird - little bluetooth device.
I'll let the article on this "stylus-phone" speak for itself.

k1darkknight said:
While looking into whether the GN 10.1 can be used for voice cell phone calls in the US, I stumbled across this handy - if weird - little bluetooth device.
I'll let the article on this "stylus-phone" speak for itself.
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Holy crap thats cool. I might get one of those just for the sake of having all the available accessories. I'd propbably use something like that sparingly, because I'd need to A) Really keep track of that thing, and B) need to have the Tablet open in front of my to see who's calling. I'm proabably still leaning towards the Galaxy Player to to get the caller function. The 3.6 im watching on ebay is actually cheaper than the Bluetooth S Pen
I guess I go really go old school and get one of the OLD samsung Yepp mp3 players.. they had this functionality to, but with them I need a proprietary charger and I'd lose email checking. Dammit this is complicated. lol.

This would be really great to see come to fruition. I wonder if an app would need to be developed to properly pair the phone to the tablet.
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From my understanding, Its lees about an app than it is about the Bluetooth Profile. The Galaxy Players give you the proper Profile (plus earpiece and built in Mic) to do this affectively. You get caller ID, and headset functionality. You can pair phones to other phones but never have the option to set what type of profile youd like the pairing to utilize. Would/Could an app do this type of thing, or would it have to be a tweak/add to the bluetooth profile?
Lol, I never get too deep in this. When in doubt - throw money at the problem

[Q] New nexus 7 and an always on mic

I am just curious if any one think there is any chance it will have the feature that the moto x does with the always on mic.
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I dont think this feature would be nearly as useful as on a mobile phone.

I think the mic is always on because of Google Now and the ability to do voice commands at will.
Honestly I can see the benefits but if you are too lazy to pretty a button then its pretty sad. I'd rather see a dedicated voice button then always on mic. Not only for security but also because if it is always on, then it is always processing. Seems like a waste of resources 99% of the time.
Just grab a Bluetooth headset and press the button on the unit, and it will ask for a command. At least mine does.
Plus what's next? Always on video? A Google employee moving into my house? Cats and dogs, living together?
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Requills said:
I dont think this feature would be nearly as useful as on a mobile phone.
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It wouldn't be but....... Still nice to have.
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JustusIV said:
I am just curious if any one think there is any chance it will have the feature that the moto x does with the always on mic.
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I dont think so, it might be a moto x only feature.

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Honestly I can see the benefits but if you are too lazy to pretty a button then its pretty sad.
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That has to be the stupidest thing i have heard someone say.
Does your TV have a remote. What are you lazy to walk to your TV?
Its an evolution of technology. Why should i have to touch it when i could NOT touch it.
I am not huge on voice controls because if i am already touching my device i would rather just do it with my finger.
If i don't have to even look at my phone to send a message or skip a song then why would I.

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That has to be the stupidest thing i have heard someone say.
Does your TV have a remote. What are you lazy to walk to your TV?
Its an evolution of technology. Why should i have to touch it when i could NOT touch it.
I am not huge on voice controls because if i am already touching my device i would rather just do it with my finger.
If i don't have to even look at my phone to send a message or skip a song then why would I.
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ROFL
Even Star Trek's communicators on their shirts have to be pressed. And Star Trek knows the future better then we do. Nuff said.
Btw I'm only half serious.
Something like Google Glass, I understand IF it was paired to YOUR VOICE. But a phone...? It doesn't need to be listening every second just to grab 1 or 2 commands. Have you ever tried using Google Now in a noisy environment. I can only see my phone grabbing all sorts of random commands and doing random acts. Pass on that.
Even Google Glass reviews show it picking up commands from others and screwing things up.
http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/14/fred-armisen-google-glass/
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"Learning exactly what you can and can't say to Glass takes some time, and I struggled to teach him the commands because the headset was constantly listening to me, sitting next to him."
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Looks like all the new droids released today got the feature so. Obviously I am not the only one that thinks it's a required step for voice commands. Also in star trek while the touched their communicators didn't they just talk to the computers?
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player911 said:
I think the mic is always on because of Google Now and the ability to do voice commands at will.
Honestly I can see the benefits but if you are too lazy to pretty a button then its pretty sad. I'd rather see a dedicated voice button then always on mic. Not only for security but also because if it is always on, then it is always processing. Seems like a waste of resources 99% of the time.
Just grab a Bluetooth headset and press the button on the unit, and it will ask for a command. At least mine does.
Plus what's next? Always on video? A Google employee moving into my house? Cats and dogs, living together?
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In my house,cats and dogs are living together.
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I was under the impression the always on mic was powered by different hardware specs ie: the super low voltage battery when sleeping and a low power mic. Seems like this will be hard to implement for many devices without these hardware features.

I think always on mic is a moto thing, dealing with their custom made snapdragon aka "motorola x8 computing system", has a whole core dedicated to it, and another dedicated to gestures. I think current devices could do it fine, but battery life would suffer without motorolas software and hardware tweaks.
Of course I don't really know, that's just my guess. Guess we'll all find out next week
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Cor-master said:
I think always on mic is a moto thing, dealing with their custom made snapdragon aka "motorola x8 computing system", has a whole core dedicated to it, and another dedicated to gestures. I think current devices could do it fine, but battery life would suffer without motorolas software and hardware tweaks.
Of course I don't really know, that's just my guess. Guess we'll all find out next week
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I have my new Nexus 7 in hand. I am pretty sure that is a moto only feature but i bet we see all the big players picking it up in the future.

The always on MIC is monitored by a dedicated low power core on the Moto X. N7 doesn't have that chip.

I have Note 3 for almost a month now - things I don't like

PIA things I don't like about N3:
- default Yahoo main application still (9 out of 10 times) gives an error while on T-M network, yes I installed Yahoo-provided program so now while on Wi-Fi it's bugging me twice with notifications from both programs
- It keeps telling me that it's blocking some applications and also opens that stupid Magazine screen
- the charger cable is too thick and unique so I purchased another Samsung S3-S4-N2 OEM calbe - and guess what - it does not fit N3
- there is no HUMAN way of rooting and unlocking yet

sell it... get an iPhone.

Yahoo account is blocked on cell network for some reason. My friend has same problem with different phone too. Yahoo is getting worse lately.
There is a root method without changing the Knox status, you just have to search for it. From what I did, it took me less than 5 min to root the phone and it is very human way. I did it so as well as many here....
I froze the magazine app after root. I never have problem with security check pop up on with the phone.
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Also the charger cable has the micro usb 3.0 attach hence why it is thicker and wider. You can still use standard micro usb 2 cable for data and charging if you don't like the one that came with the phone.
There are 2 holes on the bottom. The slightly wider one fits standard usb 2.0 cable. This stuff is in your manual that come with the phone btw, if not, Google will help a lot.
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Who uses Yahoo mail anymore?
Rooting its easy for those competent to do it. Some people shouldn't (especially if they can't figure out how to get a common microusb charging cable which are everywhere)

My complaints are..
- bettery isnt good... used to get way more on the Note 2.. even the s4 has better battery.... FOR ME
SGN3

Something is very wrong with your phone or battery then if your getting worse battery life than a s4.
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My note 3 battery last longer than my gf s4 with same amount of usage everyday.
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toshik1 said:
No this is a serious concern from the person who shelled $700 plus tax. Comments about buying iphone or " nobody uses yahoo" are way off topic.
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Sorry, I think what people are saying is. There are common ways to fix your problem.
1. You posted this on Dec 13. There were already 3 ways to root the phone.
2. You have been a member since 2011. So i'm hoping that you know how to turn off the security checks on Android phones after 2 yrs.
3. You say you bought a universal charger that does not fit the standard USB 2.0 slot? But you have had micro usb equipment in the past i'm guessing. Shows that you should already know that the OEM cable is for 3.0 use and how to plug in a 2.0 cable.
As for Yahoo. I don't use the app so not sure why you would have so many problems with this. But i would not say this is a Note 3 issue, but a Yahoo issue.
Sorry that you have been offended. It's not right for others to offend. But i'm thinking others figured, somebody with an account from 2011 should know common Android features and know how to use an Android phone well enough to search the site or the web for the answers.

toshik1 said:
No this is a serious concern from the person who shelled $700 plus tax. Comments about buying iphone or " nobody uses yahoo" are way off topic.
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Do you have a case on? I had an issue using a regular micro USB cable when I had the impact case now I have a pt case and this one has a bigger opening so no more issues.
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Outside of nexus this has been on of the easiest phones I have rooted yet. How can there not be a way? There are posts all over about it...
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dragonstalker said:
Sorry, I think what people are saying is. There are common ways to fix your problem.
1. You posted this on Dec 13. There were already 3 ways to root the phone.
2. You have been a member since 2011. So i'm hoping that you know how to turn off the security checks on Android phones after 2 yrs.
3. You say you bought a universal charger that does not fit the standard USB 2.0 slot? But you have had micro usb equipment in the past i'm guessing. Shows that you should already know that the OEM cable is for 3.0 use and how to plug in a 2.0 cable.
As for Yahoo. I don't use the app so not sure why you would have so many problems with this. But i would not say this is a Note 3 issue, but a Yahoo issue.
Sorry that you have been offended. It's not right for others to offend. But i'm thinking others figured, somebody with an account from 2011 should know common Android features and know how to use an Android phone well enough to search the site or the web for the answers.
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Ditto to all except I DO use Yahoo and it works wonderfully for me. Not sure what his issue is...
And to the battery guy... something is WRONG. I get 15 hours with 5.5 hours of screen on time. From when I get up to when I go to bed every day. My S4 would never make it that far. And never more that 4 hours of Screen on time.

dragonstalker said:
Sorry, I think what people are saying is. There are common ways to fix your problem.
1. You posted this on Dec 13. There were already 3 ways to root the phone.
2. You have been a member since 2011. So i'm hoping that you know how to turn off the security checks on Android phones after 2 yrs.
3. You say you bought a universal charger that does not fit the standard USB 2.0 slot? But you have had micro usb equipment in the past i'm guessing. Shows that you should already know that the OEM cable is for 3.0 use and how to plug in a 2.0 cable.
As for Yahoo. I don't use the app so not sure why you would have so many problems with this. But i would not say this is a Note 3 issue, but a Yahoo issue.
Sorry that you have been offended. It's not right for others to offend. But i'm thinking others figured, somebody with an account from 2011 should know common Android features and know how to use an Android phone well enough to search the site or the web for the answers.
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1. There was no human ways to root the phone (not without breaking the warranty, risking to brick it etc.)
2. Yes Infuse 4G -> S3 -> S4 -> N2 -> N3 but I don't not live on this forum have other things to do
3. On the charger I simply had to force the plug into the socket, so everything is fine

toshik1 said:
1. There was no human ways to root the phone (not without breaking the warranty, risking to brick it etc.)
2. Yes Infuse 4G -> S3 -> S4 -> N2 -> N3 but I don't not live on this forum have other things to do
3. On the charger I simply had to force the plug into the socket, so everything is fine
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Lol then you dont have the right to complain on something that actually works for the rest of us. Just read up before making a conclusion. Could have been better if you posts are in a form of questions and not qq.

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