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Just got my seidio extended battery what's the best way to charge it?

I just received my seidio 3500 extended battery and extended rugged case. What's the best way to charge it using the stock phone charger? I've seen alot and most reviews and threads recommend external charger. I don't want to have to deal with that and shell out more money. I don't remember the link but I've also seen how your supposed to charge while on till full then unplug, turn off the phone then charge while off for an hour turn back on for 2 minutes while unplugged again then charge again for another hour while turned off again. I'm new to the evo and extended batteries so any help is appreciated. Thanks.
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I charged mine up til it was 100%, then monitored the battery widget. It kept going at waveform like this for another hour and a half - /\/\/\/\/\/\/\ - however as time went on, the peaks would be at lower and lower amplitudes. Eventually, the charging current decreased significantly, and there was an occasional spike every 5-10 min. At that point, I turned it off and let it charge for another hr or so. Rebooted (while still plugged in) into recovery, wiped battery stats, then rebooted to the desktop. Once the phone was fully booted, I unplugged.
I can get a good 2 days with light usage, or a solid 1 day with heavy. There after, I charge it til green, then give it another 1.5-2 hrs more - You can tell by the battery widget when it actually stops charging.
Note, i'm not using an SBC based kernel.

What battery widget are you using?
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mikel719 said:
I just received my seidio 3500 extended battery and extended rugged case. What's the best way to charge it using the stock phone charger? I've seen alot and most reviews and threads recommend external charger. I don't want to have to deal with that and shell out more money. I don't remember the link but I've also seen how your supposed to charge while on till full then unplug, turn off the phone then charge while off for an hour turn back on for 2 minutes while unplugged again then charge again for another hour while turned off again. I'm new to the evo and extended batteries so any help is appreciated. Thanks.
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It's all bull man you dont really need an external charger. When I was in the process of getting my 3500 mah I was also preocuppied about the external charger, however I began to use and you really dont need it.
Just understand that when the 100% sign comes up and the green light turns on it's not really charged all the way, the phone can only recognize upto 1500 mah..if I remember correctly. You have to leave the phone plugged in for another hour or so for it to actually get it's full charge.
Even then, it will seem like it is not working because the battery will go from 100 to 90 in around 5 minutes ITS CRAZY!! But dont worry thats a fault on HTC's part. After that 90% mark the phone will have really good battery life. I usually get around 15 hours of heavy usage, extremely heavy trust me! If you just use it for phone calls and dont really use GPS and stuff you should get maybe a day and a half.
So dont worry about the external charger, it's not true. What I did when I first got the battery I charged it 100% let it drain all the way and then recharged it. This is just so the phone understand the capacity of the new battery. At first it may seem a bit "iffy" but dont worry it'll live upto it's potential.
Hope this helps. Later!

Thanks obloivior72,
I'm going to charge it up now and try it.
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Just remember let it sit for another hour after it says it's full, Actually leave it for 2 just to be safe. I can't emphasize this enough! Glad I was able to be of some help! Enjoy your new battery.

Graph looks something like this.
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Each tick mark on the X axis is 10 minutes. It took about 2 hrs to get the battery from 20% to 100%, then another good 90 minutes to really complete the charge (light green during this time).

Im using an SBC kernel. Its a little bit taboo on these forums right now but if you can get your hands one one it will def do the trick without jumping through hoops. Just read up on it first. Search the forums and do some reading about it before flashing. There's a lot of conflicting opinions on both sides about it so read about it then you decide.
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I looked into the sbc kernels but with the bad info and everything I cant make the jump. I charged for 2 hours after full so I'm going to test it now till it dies while running calkulins 1.7.7. I'll let everyone know how it goes. I appreciate all the tips. Hopefully this makes my evo complete.
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So far 18 1/2 hours unplugged with med usage and still 62% battery left.
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mikel719 said:
So far 18 1/2 hours unplugged with med usage and still 62% battery left.
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WHOA!!!! I told you!!! Thats awesome bro, congrats!

I'm stoked. Now I don't have to always take my charger with me.
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This is what Seido told me to do if it isn't charging adequately:
"Please try to fully drain the battery until the phone completely shuts off automatically and then charge with the OEM AC charger that came with your device. Repeat this process 3 consecutive times. This will recondition and also recycle battery usage for best performance.
Thank you,
Seidoonline Technical Support"
However, doing this when the battery is new really doesn't do any good. It would be useful after some time using it since these are "smart batteries".
Just charge it normally and should be good to go.

Poor Battery Life please help?

Hi, for the last two weeks i have been frustrated with my battery draining really fast, I have changed roms 3-4 times and kernels multiple times. I need some pointers on what could be wrong. On battery monitor, it shows barely and positives and if they are positive they are high (300+) I don't know what to do. I am currently on 0003, pri 1.77, Mikfroyo v4.5 with net 4.3 bfs havs more. Thanks

Have you tried SetCPU that helped me a lot
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Have you tried SetCPU that helped me a lot
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I've heard mix opinions about that helping or not. What kind of battery life do you get?

redsoxfan320 said:
I've heard mix opinions about that helping or not. What kind of battery life do you get?
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idk man lately ive been having crappy battery as well! and it pissong me off idk what to do.. im in the same boat as you..i used to go 33 hrs now half if im lucky.. dont know whats going on

ImEVO said:
idk man lately ive been having crappy battery as well! and it pissong me off idk what to do.. im in the same boat as you..i used to go 33 hrs now half if im lucky.. dont know whats going on
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Same, I get roughly 13, I don't know what to try.

redsoxfan320 said:
Same, I get roughly 13, I don't know what to try.
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you up for a game of hacky sack with the evo?? lol

charge phone until light turn green. unplug, wait till led goes out. plug back in, wait until green. turn your phone off. wait until LED turns green. unplug, wait for LED to go out, plug back in, wait for LED to turn green, rinse and repeat 10 times.
enjoy better battery life.

Just checked...
1d 9h 9m 55s since last unplugged. With about 40% remaining. No - I'm not lying.
That is, of course, with only about 45mins of talking but that is also with a constant twitter connection as well as Exchange Active Sync (microsoft push) constantly bringing me about 120 emails per day on average.
I don't know if my battery life is common (although I gather not) but I can tell you this:
-my phone has a totally stock ROM, but is rooted with many bloat progs removed.
-I disabled or removed all location-aware progs
-I pretty much never use bluetooth so its always off
-I do occasionally use WiFi so thats maybe on 10% of the time
-I *never* put the phone on the charger until it has literally shut itself off dead. I then charge to 100% and repeat. I'm guessing this is the biggest factor.
This is just what works for me.

Have you tried Juice Defender? Its.free and.available in the Market
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mybikegoes200 said:
Just checked...
1d 9h 9m 55s since last unplugged. With about 40% remaining. No - I'm not lying.
That is, of course, with only about 45mins of talking but that is also with a constant twitter connection as well as Exchange Active Sync (microsoft push) constantly bringing me about 120 emails per day on average.
I don't know if my battery life is common (although I gather not) but I can tell you this:
-my phone has a totally stock ROM, but is rooted with many bloat progs removed.
-I disabled or removed all location-aware progs
-I pretty much never use bluetooth so its always off
-I do occasionally use WiFi so thats maybe on 10% of the time
-I *never* put the phone on the charger until it has literally shut itself off dead. I then charge to 100% and repeat. I'm guessing this is the biggest factor.
This is just what works for me.
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Holy **** batman!! cant be on stock battery.. can it??

nosympathy said:
charge phone until light turn green. unplug, wait till led goes out. plug back in, wait until green. turn your phone off. wait until LED turns green. unplug, wait for LED to go out, plug back in, wait for LED to turn green, rinse and repeat 10 times.
enjoy better battery life.
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Is this a joke?? lol

nosympathy said:
charge phone until light turn green. unplug, wait till led goes out. plug back in, wait until green. turn your phone off. wait until LED turns green. unplug, wait for LED to go out, plug back in, wait for LED to turn green, rinse and repeat 10 times.
enjoy better battery life.
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Thanks. Do i have to do this every day?

Probably just once a month.
redsoxfan320 said:
Thanks. Do i have to do this every day?
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Swyped from my sexy EVO.

redsoxfan320 said:
I've heard mix opinions about that helping or not. What kind of battery life do you get?
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I get a good 8 hours heavy use and about 12 hours light usage on stock HTC 15 kernel
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Dc2Chris said:
I get a good 8 hours heavy use and about 12 hours light usage on stock HTC 15 kernel
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Thats not great...

With setcpu screen off profile and data n wifi off I loose 0% in ~hours of not used. With jd, I obviously loose a little bit through the night since It turns on every now n then. I get OK battery life. But great performance
A drop of Chuck Norris's semen was placed on Android OS. We now have CyanogenMod.

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Thats not great...
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Yeah true but it did improve from what I use to get. Until I find a better kernel I'm stuck with those results lol
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i'm getting very, very good life with screen off on newest cm7 nightly 7. but while screen on, i'm getting massive loss. the settings tells me its from desplay, about 50%. this really pisses me off. any fixes? autobrightness is on btw. and i am getting fantasmizix performance (1500 benchmarks).

Try turning autobrightness off.

ok i'll try that. its probably a combination of that and terrible service where i am now.
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Wtf new battery

I bought new 3500 battery and I'm using sbc kernel. I am getting same use time as stock. Wtf is goin on?
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What sbc kernel are you using? I use nets 4.3 bfs sbc more havs and I get great battery life.
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Recalibrateb ur battery and wipe ur battery stats
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nzaw4 said:
Recalibrateb ur battery and wipe ur battery stats
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This.
Also when it's green doesn't mean it's fully charged.
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derekfaircloth said:
I bought new 3500 battery and I'm using sbc kernel. I am getting same use time as stock. Wtf is goin on?
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theres 2 main questions, are you using sbc or a wall charger and two, who makes the battery

and if its a non-seidio, some of them just plain suck. i've bought 4 different ones from ebay/amazon only one actually works well after calibration and many cycles of usage.

I am usung netarchy sbc
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I have alao reset battery stats
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You need to condition your battery
I've been dealing with this for ever and I thin kI finally haqve a routine figured out that is getting me CM7 like battery life on a Sense ROM.
1st, I've had the Sedio 3500 for a few months, and like you, I was getting ridiculous drain, until I started sdoing some reading and experimenting.
Here's what I do.
First, off, I have GPS, WIFI and Data disable all the time, unless I need one of them, and then I turn off again when I'm done. I keep my screen off all the time, unless I'm using the phone. I also only use minimal widgets. Calender, Fany Widgets Weather and Forcast, Messages widget, the Beautiful toggle widget for silence and my MIUI Music player on 3 screens, using Rosie. The other 4 screens are just empty.
Second, as for the battery itself, charge the phone for about 8 hrs, and this is the HTC method, unplug it, turn it off, and charge it for another hour, while off.
Unplug it, turn it on for 2 minutes, then power down and plug it in for another hour.
Now, before powering I up, I do the Hoodoo-voodoo-like 10 time unplug thing.
Basically, unplug, light goes off. Plug it in, light is red, wait til it turns green, unplug it and do this 10 times.
Reboot to recovery, wipe battery stats, power up, all while plugged in, and once fully booted, unplug.
I did this today, using the new Koni 3, with Netarchy 4.3.2 SBC HAVS, and riding then used the phone pretty steadily to play Klondike, text, etc an an hour later was just dropping to 99%.
THAT is pretty good, compared to what it used to be like, when it would drop about 1 percentile per minute, even when it was in sleep mode.

Reconditioning is not going to work when you buy a crappy battery. Someone said voodo? You're kidding, right?
Please understand there is no regulation that prevents people from stating their cheap batteries on eBay are 9800mAh but only providing 1000.
I bought 1500mAh eBay batteries that are only 900mAh, verified with equipment.
Check www.batteryboss.org to see what I'm talking about.
Best thing to do? Buy a $1 battery wall charger, two OEM/non-generic htc batteries and carry in your wallet. I wouldn't be surprised if your 3500mAh battery actually packs less juice than the original battery. Oh and your phone is looking like a brick for nothing.

yeah this is why i asked, if you bought a very cheap extended battery, well its rating is different than what it is providing you with

I think I have battery problems solved; Just turn Data off when you're not using it. My phone has been off the charger since Friday night @ 6:30pm. Now it's Sunday @ 9:30am. That's 39 hours and I'm sitting at 63% and I've been texting, making calls, playing a few games, and anytime I need data, I just turn it back on til I'm done and then back off again. That's the only thing I'm doing different now, and before I made that little change, my battery was a good or bad as anyone else's

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I think I have battery problems solved; Just turn Data off when you're not using it. My phone has been off the charger since Friday night @ 6:30pm. Now it's Sunday @ 9:30am. That's 39 hours and I'm sitting at 63% and I've been texting, making calls, playing a few games, and anytime I need data, I just turn it back on til I'm done and then back off again. That's the only thing I'm doing different now, and before I made that little change, my battery was a good or bad as anyone else's
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When I am home, I have WiFi enabled all the time, no 3G/4G. I heard WiFi is better(with good signal) for your battery than 3G enabled. Is this true? My battery lasts about 7-8 hrs of moderate-heavy usage.
Also, here's a thing with all of you trying to tweak your battery to get best performance. From my own experience, I am never a step or two away from a charger be it while I'm on my computer at work, at home or in the car. So what good is it to have the phone out of the charger for days?

I understand WiFI is better, too, from what I've read.
Also, if I can find it, I found a thread on androidfrums from htc that recommends you let your battery drain to below 50% before charging it.
Like you, I have chargers all over, so it's not a big deal, but to be at where I am now, with this experiment on turning data off is simply amazing to me.
Almost 42 hours and at 59%

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Almost 42 hours and at 59%
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That is definitely a huge performance improvement but I wonder what's happening with all your apps that need the data sync in the background. I have apps like Pulse, Facebook, K9, Handcent, etc that update every couple of hours or have "push" enabled. What is the trick to allow 3g, 4g, wifi to be enabled automatically only when sync is required and then disabled?

Good question.
All I use is the weather bug and Fany Widgets weather, ad far as widgets that need updating. I think, once they try to update and can't connect, they "freeze" for lack of a better word, until you reconnect and manually update.
It's a little bit of a pain, but for this kind've battery life, I'm not gonna complain

I think what would work is an app that puts the phone in "Airplane Mode" (bad Moment memories ), but allows the calls to come thru. This way there's absolutely no Internet traffic but your Evo is still usable as a phone.

That's probably, basically what I'm doing, but like you, coming from the Moment, Airplane Mode is a bad word....

New extended battery help

Ok I got a new extended battery what souls I do to condition it so my phone will charge to to 100%
I'm in rooted so can't wipe battery stats
Also is there a way to check its capacity so I know its fully charged
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Since you aren't rooted, best you can do is:
-Charge to 100%
-Let the phone die, so its manually turns off
-Charge back to 100%, use as normal
And not really...

Aww, c'mon Roxx, you know that's not the way. Even HTC says don't let your battery die.
Let it drop to under about 50%, then charge for 8 hrs, while off. Unplug, boot up let it settle in for a few mins, then power down and charge for another hour.
Then boot up.
That's the best for unrooted phones.

I just feel odd about killing batteries and anything 4 my 2nd question good app to monitor my battery......most don't have good info
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Aww, c'mon Roxx, you know that's not the way. Even HTC says don't let your battery die.
Let it drop to under about 50%, then charge for 8 hrs, while off. Unplug, boot up let it settle in for a few mins, then power down and charge for another hour.
Then boot up.
That's the best for unrooted phones.
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Well it gives the lithium batteries the best chance to discharge, then started the process over. Continued practice of that is bad, but for 1 power cycle, it is okay. Though through normal usage, you should charge it whenever it gets low

Omgadroid said:
I just feel odd about killing batteries and anything 4 my 2nd question good app to monitor my battery......most don't have good info
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Battery Moniter Widget is the best, and I don't think you need be rooted for it.
Rexx, I agree that doing it once may not be bad, but I say why take chances, ya know?

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Battery Moniter Widget is the best, and I don't think you need be rooted for it.
Rexx, I agree that doing it once may not be bad, but I say why take chances, ya know?
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Yea a good app for non rooted phones.
And well fair enough, especially for those less experienced.

This was posted awhile ago on the xda EVO 4G forum and it seemed to work for me.
1) turn ON Phone & charge for 8 hrs.
then
2) unplug charger - turn OFF phone & charge another hour (1)
then
3) unplug charger - turn phone ON, wait (2) minutes then,
turn OFF phone & charge another hour (1).
Your battery has been set and your battery time should be doubled.
This as per HTC​
I have also found that using the app: Juicedefender
works great even with its default settings.
Good Luck...

I'm a moderate user the norm battery would last me from 2 am to about 1 pm I work nights
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Boostmobile evo battery drain!! Help!!

Hello all, I hope all is well! I have a huge problem... I've been running my evo on the boost network for the last two months and have been getting no more than 4 hours of battery use from every rom I use. I even tried the old destroyer rom and a number of different kernals. Im in need of help as soon as possible!!

How about a little more info. What battery are you using? How old is it? Have u checked to see what is running? Did this start as soon as you switched networks?

Im using the stock battery and its only about 3 months old... It was a claim from asurion. It started happening soon as I switched networks. While on sprint I could easily get a day 1/2 usage.

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Im using the stock battery and its only about 3 months old... It was a claim from asurion. It started happening soon as I switched networks. While on sprint I could easily get a day 1/2 usage.
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It could have something to do with your radios, or just be a random coincidence with something else that's causing the drain. I'm not familiar with flashing to Boost at all, so I don't know if you have a different set of radios, PRI/NV, etc. You could try flashing a different radio, newer or older.
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Just updated to the latest radios and battery still sucks!

I have Boost too.
The battery drains quicker with low or no signal.

download Spare Parts and check Partial Wake Usage, this will tell you if an app or apps are causing this.

Well I GUESS THIS IS DEAD...

Be sure to calibrate your battery whenever you flash a new ROM to optimize battery life. I prefer to calibrate using this method:
1) While your phone is powered on, charge the battery until the LED turns green.
2) Unplug the phone from the charger and wait until the LED turns off.
3) Now power off your phone.
4) When the phone is off, plug the charger into the phone and charge it until the LED turns green.
5) With the phone still off, unplug the charger and wait until the LED turns off.
6) Now power on the phone.
7) Wait until the phone is booted completely and then power off the phone again.
8) When the phone is off again plug the charger into your phone and charge it until the LED turns green.
9) Now boot your phone into recovery mode and navigate to the "Advanced" option using the volume up and down keys and then choose the option "Wipe Battery Stats."
10) Now reboot your phone and use it normally. You should notice improved battery life.
Source: androidadvices.com/calibrate-android-mobile-phone-battery/

There is also an app called battery calibrator, its free on the market. I use it with great results!

One_Shot_2012 said:
There is also an app called battery calibrator, its free on the market. I use it with great results!
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I agree very good app, a lot easier than the way op put
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Wiping battery stats is actually been found to be ineffective/cause more harm than good the best way to actually "calibrate" the battery is to backup your rom flash to aosp or froyo with an sbc kernel let your phone drain til it powers off boot it back up and let it shut off again usually only takes a few mins sometimes it wont power on again, plug in charger wait til red led stops blinking turn the phone on and charge it to 100 uninterupted and leave it plugged in for 15-30 mins at 100% then nandroid back to your back up do this once a month or find an aosp setup u like and stick with it, the myth of sbc damaging li ion batteries is just that a myth newer phones have trickle charging kernels stock now such as the rezound et4g and a few others that i dont remember off the top of my head
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Well, everyone has their own opinions. For me, I prefer the method I posted over the app for battery calibration, because I get better results. Also, I've never heard of any negative side-effects from wiping battery stats, but feel free to do what you wish.

no signal horribal battery
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I have Boost too.
The battery drains quicker with low or no signal.
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Monday and Tuesday I stayed in New Orleans Louisiana. I typically had 5 bars as far as signal goes.. While there I didn't have to charge the phone at all for 2 days with heavy usage might I add. The minute I made it back to my small town, the battery started to drain incredibly fast! So I've come to the conclusion that it is the poor service that drains the battery. With that being said, I would like to thank you all for your input!