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When the next version of Android is released....

Assuming we have root access by then (I really hope we do) will you be waiting for HTC to release the Sense version of it or are you going to upgrade to stock Android in the meantime?

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after having experienced android being, modded by htc and then buggered by orange, i'm hoping we can root the desire as i'd like to go straight to a pure android o/s

tuntang said:
after having experienced android being, modded by htc and then buggered by orange, i'm hoping we can root the desire as i'd like to go straight to a pure android o/s
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same here i hate what orange has done to the rom it descusts me since this is my first branded handset for about 5 years now and i am used to the generic version got very good and the flashing process on winmo now stuck on android v.confusing.

Don't hold your breath Read this:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/0...s-in-may-require-froyo-we-have-sign-up-links/
If this is true ... FroYo (the next Android OS build iteration) will be next month together with Flash 10.1.
Then we can pray every night to have root access + write permission to the system partition !

I really hope we do have root access. Not having proper flash is really bugging me.
Either we get root or HTC Have a sense version very quick after the FroYo release.

Doesn't the HTC Evo 4g have froyo? Would be ported over.

brummiesteven said:
Doesn't the HTC Evo 4g have froyo? Would be ported over.
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The 2.1 update for the Hero still hasn't been released despite 2.1 having been released a good while ago.
But then again, the EVO 4G and the Desire have the exact same level of processing power so I don't see why HTC would delay the update in any way.
Let's hope HTC don't let us down.

whats the problem with the Flash thats on the desire? I have not had any non-loading flash sites at all yet

mcgon1979 said:
whats the problem with the Flash thats on the desire? I have not had any non-loading flash sites at all yet
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It gets bogged down by heavy sites. I want flash to work just aswell as it does on my desktop.

New flash version will most probably have hardware acceleration, and all the functions flash 10.1 has on the desktop.
And -hopefully- it will be a fully optimized version of Flash. So it's actually doable on a mobile device. But I guess that is the only way for it to be succesful.
And just to be prepared, I'm programming all my new flash applications to be able to run on mobile devices (min resolution of 800x480). I'm going openscreen project, multiplatform, multi os, multi mobile devices!

If the rumors about the change in how the OS will update then I cannot see too much trouble sorting out Sense for it as it will only be compatibility checks with the core components and allow for any new core features.
Plus going by @gogol's post there will be a lot of pressure on HTC to release Sense quick smart for it with full Flash support. For all we know HTC may already be working on it just because we don't know whats coming with Froyo doesn't mean the companies haven't got a pre-release ROM

Naughty_Ottsel said:
If the rumors about the change in how the OS will update then I cannot see too much trouble sorting out Sense for it as it will only be compatibility checks with the core components and allow for any new core features.
Plus going by @gogol's post there will be a lot of pressure on HTC to release Sense quick smart for it with full Flash support. For all we know HTC may already be working on it just because we don't know whats coming with Froyo doesn't mean the companies haven't got a pre-release ROM
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They more than likely do as they are releasing the EVO 4G with FroYo in about 2-3 weeks.
I'm guessing that Android 2.2 will be released within the next 2 - 2 1/2 weeks and that HTC will either release the Sense version of 2.2 at the same time or at the very very latest at the same time as the EVO.

Forgive my ignorance but will htc upgrade the android os on the desire to froyo when it is released or are we stuck with eclair unless we root the device?

Before going to Official Froyo, think about this...

Yes, I understand the Official Froyo maybe more stable since it's more updated and complete than the leaked Froyo in custom ROM. But really is it worth the upgrade?? What I mean, when you upgrade to official froyo you will loose your root, and possibly a new updated radio that would maybe need "Paul" time to hack again. Without the root, it may not be possible to change to different ROM. I am pretty sure, once those official FROYO is out...there would be lots of different custom ROM MOD based on Official FROYO available?? Also looking at my past experience with HTC, once this official 2.2 update is available, they wont update very often anymore. It maybe better to stay with custom ROM since those cooks tend to get newer system kernel somewhere. I guess for me, even if the update is out, I will just wait out till someone make new custom ROM based on this official FROYO? cheer...that's just my opinion.

^^^what he said^^^^ +1

Most, if not all people will be waiting for a rooted version. I'll be amazed if people unroot just to get it, when it'll be modded in no time. The test release by udk is a prime example.
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kuailan said:
Yes, I understand the Official Froyo maybe more stable since it's more updated and complete than the leaked Froyo in custom ROM. But really is it worth the upgrade?? What I mean, when you upgrade to official froyo you will loose your root, and possibly a new updated radio that would maybe need "Paul" time to hack again. Without the root, it may not be possible to change to different ROM. I am pretty sure, once those official FROYO is out...there would be lots of different custom ROM MOD based on Official FROYO available?? Also looking at my past experience with HTC, once this official 2.2 update is available, they wont update very often anymore. It maybe better to stay with custom ROM since those cooks tend to get newer system kernel somewhere. I guess for me, even if the update is out, I will just wait out till someone make new custom ROM based on this official FROYO? cheer...that's just my opinion.
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Gingerbread

Agree with the original poster's sentiments. Also worth considering that this could very easily be the last major update for HTC to roll out to the Desire. There's already a newer generation of devices out and HTC have no incentive to keep us at the leading edge. I got a clear taste of this with my previous HTC Magic - dropped by Vodafone like an unwanted toy once they started selling newer devices. Thankfully it was completely unlocked and I could flash all the custom ROMs on that which I liked but since it was a 32B if I had gone official and somehow ended up there I'd have been left behind at 1.6.

I "upgraded" from Hero (which I liked pretty much) to Desire about a month ago, and it's still unrooted. I rooted and installed a custom ROM to my Hero (a couple of weeks before the official 2.1 came out) and I was far from impressed. It became slow and laggy, the available RAM was way below than on the original 1.5 etc. I assume that I should've try other ROMs as well but at a certain point I just got tired so I switched to Desire. I love the way it is. It's fast, responsive and I enjoy all the possibilities of the hardware. I can even impress my iPhone friends with a little smile on my face.
The guy I sold my Hero just updated to the official OTA 2.1 a couple of days ago. Guess what? It's flying! I wouldn't believe it if I couldn't see with my own eyes.
I love what you guys do here. I really do. I'm amazed and impressed with all the work and effort you put in these custom ROMs. I'm reading all the interesting threads, tips, tricks etc. It's good to have a place like this board. It's good to have full control over our handsets, install software others can't. But I kinda like the way HTC puts together and tests its ROMs even if it's bloated with stuff I'll never use. I'll check for updates every hour this weekend Cos I'm eager to try all the new features. Maybe later I'll switch to a custom ROM which is based on the official, but for now I'm focusing on the "Check now" button

even though it hurts to say so.. but I agree

kuailan said:
Yes, I understand the Official Froyo maybe more stable since it's more updated and complete than the leaked Froyo in custom ROM. But really is it worth the upgrade?? What I mean, when you upgrade to official froyo you will loose your root, and possibly a new updated radio that would maybe need "Paul" time to hack again. Without the root, it may not be possible to change to different ROM. I am pretty sure, once those official FROYO is out...there would be lots of different custom ROM MOD based on Official FROYO available?? Also looking at my past experience with HTC, once this official 2.2 update is available, they wont update very often anymore. It maybe better to stay with custom ROM since those cooks tend to get newer system kernel somewhere. I guess for me, even if the update is out, I will just wait out till someone make new custom ROM based on this official FROYO? cheer...that's just my opinion.
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8 chara

Why would it not possible to root back after unrooting? Since rooting is now riskfree...

What I would like is a standard final realease, rooted and A2SD+'ed, thats it, no other mod`s.

as long as froyo doesn't modify the hboot to a new version, you can always rollback and unroot.

pina_ said:
Why would it not possible to root back after unrooting? Since rooting is now riskfree...
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Because the leaked froyo came with a new HBOOT (which was removed by devs here) which at the moment is unrootable. And may be unrootable forever!
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coercri said:
What I would like is a standard final realease, rooted and A2SD+'ed, thats it, no other mod`s.
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Me too
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coercri said:
What I would like is a standard final realease, rooted and A2SD+'ed, thats it, no other mod`s.
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Agreed, I finally took the plunge to root and A2SD, the latter of which is amazing Is it really too much to ask for, just to install apps on the SD?

I will wait for Froyo Official-based custom ROMS!

macacao said:
Me too
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That would be perfect..! And wake phone with the select button.

I was near to unroot and and go back to the normal rom. But now not anymore after what u guys said. Thx.
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So if someone buy a HTC desire after the update he may not be able to get root ever. Lucky us!
Sent from my HTC Desire using my fingers.

I highly doubt no one is ever going to be able to root if they officially upgrade to 2.2. It will happen, it might just take a while that's all for Paul and co. to do it..

I think that all of you that says that the new Hboot could not be hacked, underestimate many very very skilled peoples knowledge. Just because it isn't cracked now, it not equal to *incrackable*.
I am very certain that it will be cracked or something else and then root access can be achieved again.

[Q] 2.2 or CM7 on DEFY

I am new to the Android phone, and I purchase the Defy on last sunday, I like this phone and those function, but I am thinking to upgrade the firmware to 2.2, the salesman say it can be download 2.2 OTA at April, but after a week and there is still nothing.
So now I am thinking upgrade to CM7, one question, after installed the CM7, can it downgrade to the original 2.2 OTA?
Also I am focusing to the Hotspot feature. Is it work fine?
my phone version is
2.59.0.MB525.Retail.n.CH18
firmware version
2.1 update1

Yes, i have done that tomorrow. I don't like some modifications that i was used to, in the contact list, that have changed in the CM7. I'm gonna wait to another version to see if will get better what i want.

it seems like cm7 is still in beta-mode if i was u i would wait untill a stable verison comes out

If you don't want to be flashing fixes every other day i recommend not going with CM7. It runs great for light usage but it has many issues for now.
I recommend going with a 2.2 rom like my EphuNord. It is a clean Blurless 2.2 rom with a few modifications to allow easy themeing. I also uploaded around 8 themes.
If you follow the correct procedures you can always downgrade as far as 2.1 again if you need to.

thx for information, but which is the most stable for 2.2? I saw some post that some rom are not compatible?! Any recommandation? I want 2.2 or above.
I am lost on upgrade or not.

I want to update to ephnord 2.2
But want to downgrade back to 2.1
I am 2.51 uk(the phone came with it)
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For Now 2.2 will be a better choice as the CM7 is its beta phases so let it come as a stable build...
N dude make sure while upgrading from 2.1 to 2.2 you does not lose ur downgradability and for that use the excellent work from fritolays so that u can downgade back to ur original firmware just by flashing 2.1 firmware of ur choice back...

Were can i find fritolays`s work,thanks in advance mate.
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If you're newbie (or just want to use phone, not patch it every day), then better 2.2
fritolays's work here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=977989
EphuNord is also good choise for you. They both based on latest official leaked 2.2 and very stable.

Thank u so much
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htc evo upgrade to 2.3 and custon rom question

i have caulkulins 1.8 rom and am looking to update my evo to 2.3 when it comes to the evo this week and i was wondering will this effect my custom rom? or can i update my evo to 2.3 with caulkulins 1.8 rom and still have caulkulins when i have 2.3?

No, think of this as updating your computer to a new OS. It's probably going to format -all, and install the new OS.
Much like when the Moment went from 1.5 to 2.1, there was in the instructions, it was noted that you'd lose all your settings and to make sure you synced your contacts, calender, etc before installing the update.

will it make my phone not be rooted?

Well, yeah, duh

Wat he said!! Lol, but wait a day tops n someone will have it rooted fir u to flash
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Or just wait for a dev to release a custom ROM - shouldn't be long for a rooted stock flavor
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deanventure said:
i have caulkulins 1.8 rom and am looking to update my evo to 2.3 when it comes to the evo this week and i was wondering will this effect my custom rom? or can i update my evo to 2.3 with caulkulins 1.8 rom and still have caulkulins when i have 2.3?
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Just sit tight ... Calk will have an update based on the official release very quickly.

a few Q's, but not general newb Q's

Ok I just joined sprint and picked up three Evo 4G's for the family, couldn't resist the low price of the phones and service. I was using a Vibrant on T-Mobile but with all the ATT crap being flung around and the service seemed to be experiencing a lot of outages and super slowdowns on data I decided to go ahead and jump.
So with all that I am an experienced Android person and my Q's are for this phone's abilities and not general Android stuff.
Ok I am wondering if 2.3.4 will be released for the Evo?
I am also wondering if the g-talk with video can be installed on the current shipping rom?
Also as I read how to root it and install a new rom, I am wondering if there are any caveats that do not show up in the guides that would be nice to know ahead of time before rooting and installing a new rom/s. I also did a search, but not much came up, but I did find a couple roms that seem to be on a leaked 2.3.4 base?? not sure if that is right since I couldn't find anything about a leaked 2.3.4 anywhere, but I didn't dig to deep.
Thanks for any help with the 2.3.4 and video chat Q.

No ETA on 2.3.4 upgrade. If you have a custom ROM, they come with GTalk that includes video chat.
There are AOSP ROMs that are 2.3.4 but all the Sense ROMS are based on the 2.3.3 OTA.
But, all that needs Root access. And currently a new EVO with 2.3.3 cannot be rooted.

majorkillin said:
No ETA on 2.3.4 upgrade. If you have a custom ROM, they come with GTalk that includes video chat.
There are AOSP ROMs that are 2.3.4 but all the Sense ROMS are based on the 2.3.3 OTA.
But, all that needs Root access. And currently a new EVO with 2.3.3 cannot be rooted.
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Right on point.
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majorkillin said:
No ETA on 2.3.4 upgrade. If you have a custom ROM, they come with GTalk that includes video chat.
There are AOSP ROMs that are 2.3.4 but all the Sense ROMS are based on the 2.3.3 OTA.
But, all that needs Root access. And currently a new EVO with 2.3.3 cannot be rooted.
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Wow no root on the new 2.3.3?!?! crap, but I imagine it wont take to long to get it hacked.
Is there a way to load up a cooked rom even without root? I imagine not. I ask because it was done way different on the Vibrant.