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Android 2.2 or Sense

Hi,
I've had my desire for a few weeks now and am loving it. Only problem is that when Google release an update, it takes HTC and then the mobile operators forever to release the update.
Is there a way to do the following:
- install a default android 2.2 ROM; so when an update is issued by Google I can get it...Ive heard the desire is the same as the Nexus one, so can I use the same generic nexus rom?
- install a generic htc rom so that when HTC update their software, i dont have to wait for the my operator to do so.
If i install the nexus rom, can i revert it back to the HTC rom later?
What do you guys recommend?
thanks in advance.

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No you can not, untill HTC releases there version with Sense

The speed difference between Android 2.2 and Android 2.1 is really hard to notice barr a few apps. It really isn't worth the tradeoff for now, Sense UI is far better than stock Android regardless.

Before going to Official Froyo, think about this...

Yes, I understand the Official Froyo maybe more stable since it's more updated and complete than the leaked Froyo in custom ROM. But really is it worth the upgrade?? What I mean, when you upgrade to official froyo you will loose your root, and possibly a new updated radio that would maybe need "Paul" time to hack again. Without the root, it may not be possible to change to different ROM. I am pretty sure, once those official FROYO is out...there would be lots of different custom ROM MOD based on Official FROYO available?? Also looking at my past experience with HTC, once this official 2.2 update is available, they wont update very often anymore. It maybe better to stay with custom ROM since those cooks tend to get newer system kernel somewhere. I guess for me, even if the update is out, I will just wait out till someone make new custom ROM based on this official FROYO? cheer...that's just my opinion.

^^^what he said^^^^ +1

Most, if not all people will be waiting for a rooted version. I'll be amazed if people unroot just to get it, when it'll be modded in no time. The test release by udk is a prime example.
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kuailan said:
Yes, I understand the Official Froyo maybe more stable since it's more updated and complete than the leaked Froyo in custom ROM. But really is it worth the upgrade?? What I mean, when you upgrade to official froyo you will loose your root, and possibly a new updated radio that would maybe need "Paul" time to hack again. Without the root, it may not be possible to change to different ROM. I am pretty sure, once those official FROYO is out...there would be lots of different custom ROM MOD based on Official FROYO available?? Also looking at my past experience with HTC, once this official 2.2 update is available, they wont update very often anymore. It maybe better to stay with custom ROM since those cooks tend to get newer system kernel somewhere. I guess for me, even if the update is out, I will just wait out till someone make new custom ROM based on this official FROYO? cheer...that's just my opinion.
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Gingerbread

Agree with the original poster's sentiments. Also worth considering that this could very easily be the last major update for HTC to roll out to the Desire. There's already a newer generation of devices out and HTC have no incentive to keep us at the leading edge. I got a clear taste of this with my previous HTC Magic - dropped by Vodafone like an unwanted toy once they started selling newer devices. Thankfully it was completely unlocked and I could flash all the custom ROMs on that which I liked but since it was a 32B if I had gone official and somehow ended up there I'd have been left behind at 1.6.

I "upgraded" from Hero (which I liked pretty much) to Desire about a month ago, and it's still unrooted. I rooted and installed a custom ROM to my Hero (a couple of weeks before the official 2.1 came out) and I was far from impressed. It became slow and laggy, the available RAM was way below than on the original 1.5 etc. I assume that I should've try other ROMs as well but at a certain point I just got tired so I switched to Desire. I love the way it is. It's fast, responsive and I enjoy all the possibilities of the hardware. I can even impress my iPhone friends with a little smile on my face.
The guy I sold my Hero just updated to the official OTA 2.1 a couple of days ago. Guess what? It's flying! I wouldn't believe it if I couldn't see with my own eyes.
I love what you guys do here. I really do. I'm amazed and impressed with all the work and effort you put in these custom ROMs. I'm reading all the interesting threads, tips, tricks etc. It's good to have a place like this board. It's good to have full control over our handsets, install software others can't. But I kinda like the way HTC puts together and tests its ROMs even if it's bloated with stuff I'll never use. I'll check for updates every hour this weekend Cos I'm eager to try all the new features. Maybe later I'll switch to a custom ROM which is based on the official, but for now I'm focusing on the "Check now" button

even though it hurts to say so.. but I agree

kuailan said:
Yes, I understand the Official Froyo maybe more stable since it's more updated and complete than the leaked Froyo in custom ROM. But really is it worth the upgrade?? What I mean, when you upgrade to official froyo you will loose your root, and possibly a new updated radio that would maybe need "Paul" time to hack again. Without the root, it may not be possible to change to different ROM. I am pretty sure, once those official FROYO is out...there would be lots of different custom ROM MOD based on Official FROYO available?? Also looking at my past experience with HTC, once this official 2.2 update is available, they wont update very often anymore. It maybe better to stay with custom ROM since those cooks tend to get newer system kernel somewhere. I guess for me, even if the update is out, I will just wait out till someone make new custom ROM based on this official FROYO? cheer...that's just my opinion.
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Why would it not possible to root back after unrooting? Since rooting is now riskfree...

What I would like is a standard final realease, rooted and A2SD+'ed, thats it, no other mod`s.

as long as froyo doesn't modify the hboot to a new version, you can always rollback and unroot.

pina_ said:
Why would it not possible to root back after unrooting? Since rooting is now riskfree...
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Because the leaked froyo came with a new HBOOT (which was removed by devs here) which at the moment is unrootable. And may be unrootable forever!
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coercri said:
What I would like is a standard final realease, rooted and A2SD+'ed, thats it, no other mod`s.
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Me too
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coercri said:
What I would like is a standard final realease, rooted and A2SD+'ed, thats it, no other mod`s.
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Agreed, I finally took the plunge to root and A2SD, the latter of which is amazing Is it really too much to ask for, just to install apps on the SD?

I will wait for Froyo Official-based custom ROMS!

macacao said:
Me too
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That would be perfect..! And wake phone with the select button.

I was near to unroot and and go back to the normal rom. But now not anymore after what u guys said. Thx.
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So if someone buy a HTC desire after the update he may not be able to get root ever. Lucky us!
Sent from my HTC Desire using my fingers.

I highly doubt no one is ever going to be able to root if they officially upgrade to 2.2. It will happen, it might just take a while that's all for Paul and co. to do it..

I think that all of you that says that the new Hboot could not be hacked, underestimate many very very skilled peoples knowledge. Just because it isn't cracked now, it not equal to *incrackable*.
I am very certain that it will be cracked or something else and then root access can be achieved again.

[Q] Fresh Rom Rooted update to 2.3 gingerbread

This is probably a stupid question but once htc evo gets gingerbread or ever gets it will my phone tell me that 2.3 gingerbread is available? then if that dose happen will i become unrooted? I'm new to android i have the fresh rom. i did remember reading somethning about if u updated to 2.2 from 2.1 you become unrooted.

You won't get any update notification if you are running a custom ROM. I'm sure Fresh will get updated to GB once it's released and then you can just flash the updated ROM to get it.

Yeah once HTC puts out Gingerbread for the Evo then Fresh will update accordingly but from rumors I hear the Evo might only get Ice Cream

Yay... More waiting...!!!
</sarcasm>

Yup apperently more waiting or not update at all if the evo doesn't get an update by march im pretty sure HtC will be done with it, I meant they probably annouce the Evo 2 and for people to.buy it they probably wont update this one, plus I don't really care about GB it doesn't wow me but I do care about the new sense, the themes and the extra features are nice for sense, I hope we get that at least, I don't feel like spending too much.money this year so I think I ma pass summer upgrade this time around
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sharpskell said:
This is probably a stupid question but once htc evo gets gingerbread or ever gets it will my phone tell me that 2.3 gingerbread is available? then if that dose happen will i become unrooted? I'm new to android i have the fresh rom. i did remember reading somethning about if u updated to 2.2 from 2.1 you become unrooted.
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if u are using a Fresh ROM its 1 of the select few roms i know of that has its own built in UPDATER, look in apps. Update through that you should be fine.
when or if gingerbread becomes official it will be front page stuff.

Official Gingerbread RUU for Desire

Will there be an Official Gingerbread RUU for Desire in future for unrooted phones?

Probably. HTC has stated that Desire will get GB in 2011q2, also confirmed by some carriers like 3 UK.
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Here you have a list of phones that will get GB:
-desire (april, may)
https://spreadsheets0.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?hl=en&key=t1gsJlzHwHI5ixGSYajoiCA&hl=en
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852456 said:
Here you have a list of phones that will get GB:
-desire (april, may)
https://spreadsheets0.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?hl=en&key=t1gsJlzHwHI5ixGSYajoiCA&hl=en
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Thanks M8.....Nice Info
Hope this will solve my Bootloop issue.....

pranavd1980 said:
Will there be an Official Gingerbread RUU for Desire in future for unrooted phones?
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There is a leaked Gingerbread for Desire already in market.

rabeel said:
There is a leaked Gingerbread for Desire already in market.
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any chance of pointing me in teh direction of said RUU?
Cheers

No RUU available, only leaked test ROM - try Leedroid 3.0.7 0 that's based on it.

Try RcmixS 2.0. Its GB Sense 2.1+3.0 from Sensation Rom
But there´s no GB RUU for Desire yet.

HTC Desire [UPDATED 6/14/11]: After promising an Android 2.3 upgrade for its HTC Desire handset, HTC said in mid-June that it had determined the phone would not be able to handle the Gingerbread software along with its integrated Sense UI. In a statement posted to Facebook, HTC said it's "been forced to accept there isn’t enough memory to allow [it] both to bring Gingerbread and keep the HTC Sense experience on the HTC Desire." HTC went on to say it was "sincerely sorry for the disappointment." British carrier Three had previously indicated the software would be ready to roll out to the Desire by the end of May. The carrier later said HTC hadn't "been able to meet the late May timings that were set."

rohanbhatia said:
HTC Desire [UPDATED 6/14/11]: After promising an Android 2.3 upgrade for its HTC Desire handset, HTC said in mid-June that it had determined the phone would not be able to handle the Gingerbread software along with its integrated Sense UI. In a statement posted to Facebook, HTC said it's "been forced to accept there isn’t enough memory to allow [it] both to bring Gingerbread and keep the HTC Sense experience on the HTC Desire." HTC went on to say it was "sincerely sorry for the disappointment." British carrier Three had previously indicated the software would be ready to roll out to the Desire by the end of May. The carrier later said HTC hadn't "been able to meet the late May timings that were set."
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Short translation: HTC said, "if you want to have Gingerbread Sense, buy our new product lines for example Sensation!"

pranavd1980 said:
Will there be an Official Gingerbread RUU for Desire in future for unrooted phones?
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Bad News for all who are waiting for official update for Desire (Count Me too )
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_desire_will_not_be_updated_to_gingerbread-news-2779.php

aaa said:
Short translation: HTC said, "if you want to have Gingerbread Sense, buy our new product lines for example Sensation!"
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HTC Nederlands announced that you have to use a custom ROM when you will have Sense and Gingerbread
And another phone is stuck in an old android version because of the manufacturer interface. I love Sense but the simplest solution could be:
- the ROM contains only android
- an extra app which install the interface
but then the interface is now longer an argument to but a device from this manufacturer because you can then install it everywhere. Then only the hardware counts...

Elim said:
HTC Nederlands announced that you have to use a custom ROM when you will have Sense and Gingerbread
And another phone is stuck in an old android version because of the manufacturer interface. I love Sense but the simplest solution could be:
- the ROM contains only android
- an extra app which install the interface
but then the interface is now longer an argument to but a device from this manufacturer because you can then install it everywhere. Then only the hardware counts...
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1.
I know I am running InsertCoin 1.0.8 CM7 and have not used any original RUU since a long time but not providing the official ROM and relying fully to custom ROMs is wrong.
Not everyone can/wanna root their devices because they are afraid to loose the warranty by doing so or simply because they do not have enough basic knowledge to do it.
Not all Desire owners are all computer freaks like most of the people here in the forum (including me), some are simply complete illiterate about computer.
Even, I have thought about loosing the warranty over, over and over until I decided to root my Desire and to flash a custom ROM before I got the flashing addiction.
2.
Not supporting old devices with updates is acceptable but Desire is not that old. The device has to be older than 2 years before stopping any update.

Stop, htc never say, that they stop the support or never an update for the desire will come.
Only, an upgrade(!) to gingerbread is not possible.

Looks like they've retracted the statement and the HTC will be getting Gingerbread, with Sense though?
techmagister.com/2011/06/15/desire-will-get-gingerbread-htc-uk-changed-their-words-again

I think what they'll do is keep the old version of sense. I would not be willing to give up any more space on my desire, it has barely enough room for all the apps I want, so they won't update sense.

pranavd1980 said:
Bad News for all who are waiting for official update for Desire (Count Me too )
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_desire_will_not_be_updated_to_gingerbread-news-2779.php
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Woohoooooo....Its Coming Now....
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_takes_its_words_back_gingerbread_for_the_desire_is_a_go_-news-2781.php

New RUU VIVO sense 3.0 for DEVs

Newest RUU sense 3.0 for VIVO :
http://www.filefactory.com/file/cf9...22U_3822.10.08.28_M_release_227170_signed.exe
Thank to Football for this RUU
Nice to see any DEVs port for HD2 !

radio 2.48????
does this brick t-mob????????
thanx

i do it , No Deferent more,
There is nothing special
Similar to build Desire HD 2.3.5 Sense 3
I am surprised !! why the HTC continue to update system via 2.3.5 ??? it old system now

boxmax said:
i do it , No Deferent more,
There is nothing special
Similar to build Desire HD 2.3.5 Sense 3
I am surprised !! why the HTC continue to update system via 2.3.5 ??? it old system now
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Well before HTC updates the old devices, they need to release a device with ICS first. That way it gets people to buy that device rather tahn just keeping the ones the have now.

Meh dont we get optimizations when they do this? Thats what I would assume, they dont just spend time engineering and deving for these old devices if they arent changing some things... but devs that actually port it, if they say its no dif, then good waste on htc's part (idk why they would do this)...like you say, they would want people buying new HW, so they limit how many phones can 'officially' get it.
IMHO, I am grateful for these updates, I really cannot see how this is identical to the dhd, wasnt the vivo roms very speedy with our phones? Im almost certain I remember them very good...maybe a test rom with the few essentials working? Anyway, thanks for posting link