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Assuming we have root access by then (I really hope we do) will you be waiting for HTC to release the Sense version of it or are you going to upgrade to stock Android in the meantime?
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after having experienced android being, modded by htc and then buggered by orange, i'm hoping we can root the desire as i'd like to go straight to a pure android o/s
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after having experienced android being, modded by htc and then buggered by orange, i'm hoping we can root the desire as i'd like to go straight to a pure android o/s
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same here i hate what orange has done to the rom it descusts me since this is my first branded handset for about 5 years now and i am used to the generic version got very good and the flashing process on winmo now stuck on android v.confusing.
Don't hold your breath Read this:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/0...s-in-may-require-froyo-we-have-sign-up-links/
If this is true ... FroYo (the next Android OS build iteration) will be next month together with Flash 10.1.
Then we can pray every night to have root access + write permission to the system partition !
I really hope we do have root access. Not having proper flash is really bugging me.
Either we get root or HTC Have a sense version very quick after the FroYo release.
Doesn't the HTC Evo 4g have froyo? Would be ported over.
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Doesn't the HTC Evo 4g have froyo? Would be ported over.
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The 2.1 update for the Hero still hasn't been released despite 2.1 having been released a good while ago.
But then again, the EVO 4G and the Desire have the exact same level of processing power so I don't see why HTC would delay the update in any way.
Let's hope HTC don't let us down.
whats the problem with the Flash thats on the desire? I have not had any non-loading flash sites at all yet
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whats the problem with the Flash thats on the desire? I have not had any non-loading flash sites at all yet
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It gets bogged down by heavy sites. I want flash to work just aswell as it does on my desktop.
New flash version will most probably have hardware acceleration, and all the functions flash 10.1 has on the desktop.
And -hopefully- it will be a fully optimized version of Flash. So it's actually doable on a mobile device. But I guess that is the only way for it to be succesful.
And just to be prepared, I'm programming all my new flash applications to be able to run on mobile devices (min resolution of 800x480). I'm going openscreen project, multiplatform, multi os, multi mobile devices!
If the rumors about the change in how the OS will update then I cannot see too much trouble sorting out Sense for it as it will only be compatibility checks with the core components and allow for any new core features.
Plus going by @gogol's post there will be a lot of pressure on HTC to release Sense quick smart for it with full Flash support. For all we know HTC may already be working on it just because we don't know whats coming with Froyo doesn't mean the companies haven't got a pre-release ROM
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If the rumors about the change in how the OS will update then I cannot see too much trouble sorting out Sense for it as it will only be compatibility checks with the core components and allow for any new core features.
Plus going by @gogol's post there will be a lot of pressure on HTC to release Sense quick smart for it with full Flash support. For all we know HTC may already be working on it just because we don't know whats coming with Froyo doesn't mean the companies haven't got a pre-release ROM
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They more than likely do as they are releasing the EVO 4G with FroYo in about 2-3 weeks.
I'm guessing that Android 2.2 will be released within the next 2 - 2 1/2 weeks and that HTC will either release the Sense version of 2.2 at the same time or at the very very latest at the same time as the EVO.
Forgive my ignorance but will htc upgrade the android os on the desire to froyo when it is released or are we stuck with eclair unless we root the device?
When 2.2 Froyo is released it will presumably go to the N1 first, then we'll have to wait for HTC and for carriers to get round to updating the Desire.
But with rooting is it possible to just put 2.2 straight on a Desire from the Nexus One?
As in, have the exact same 2.2 ROM as the N1. No modifications, nothing, just stock Froyo running on the Desire?
It will propbably take some tweaking but yes it will be possible.
with a rooted phone and after htc release the kernel source it will be possible
i didn't think htc release a 2.2 update soon :|
maby the dont release the kernel before they have made a 2.2 upgrade?
As usual we won't get a upgrade fron Htc for several months, but this community will react quickly as usual when the new kernel is released ;-)
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Yes, I understand the Official Froyo maybe more stable since it's more updated and complete than the leaked Froyo in custom ROM. But really is it worth the upgrade?? What I mean, when you upgrade to official froyo you will loose your root, and possibly a new updated radio that would maybe need "Paul" time to hack again. Without the root, it may not be possible to change to different ROM. I am pretty sure, once those official FROYO is out...there would be lots of different custom ROM MOD based on Official FROYO available?? Also looking at my past experience with HTC, once this official 2.2 update is available, they wont update very often anymore. It maybe better to stay with custom ROM since those cooks tend to get newer system kernel somewhere. I guess for me, even if the update is out, I will just wait out till someone make new custom ROM based on this official FROYO? cheer...that's just my opinion.
^^^what he said^^^^ +1
Most, if not all people will be waiting for a rooted version. I'll be amazed if people unroot just to get it, when it'll be modded in no time. The test release by udk is a prime example.
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Yes, I understand the Official Froyo maybe more stable since it's more updated and complete than the leaked Froyo in custom ROM. But really is it worth the upgrade?? What I mean, when you upgrade to official froyo you will loose your root, and possibly a new updated radio that would maybe need "Paul" time to hack again. Without the root, it may not be possible to change to different ROM. I am pretty sure, once those official FROYO is out...there would be lots of different custom ROM MOD based on Official FROYO available?? Also looking at my past experience with HTC, once this official 2.2 update is available, they wont update very often anymore. It maybe better to stay with custom ROM since those cooks tend to get newer system kernel somewhere. I guess for me, even if the update is out, I will just wait out till someone make new custom ROM based on this official FROYO? cheer...that's just my opinion.
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Agree with the original poster's sentiments. Also worth considering that this could very easily be the last major update for HTC to roll out to the Desire. There's already a newer generation of devices out and HTC have no incentive to keep us at the leading edge. I got a clear taste of this with my previous HTC Magic - dropped by Vodafone like an unwanted toy once they started selling newer devices. Thankfully it was completely unlocked and I could flash all the custom ROMs on that which I liked but since it was a 32B if I had gone official and somehow ended up there I'd have been left behind at 1.6.
I "upgraded" from Hero (which I liked pretty much) to Desire about a month ago, and it's still unrooted. I rooted and installed a custom ROM to my Hero (a couple of weeks before the official 2.1 came out) and I was far from impressed. It became slow and laggy, the available RAM was way below than on the original 1.5 etc. I assume that I should've try other ROMs as well but at a certain point I just got tired so I switched to Desire. I love the way it is. It's fast, responsive and I enjoy all the possibilities of the hardware. I can even impress my iPhone friends with a little smile on my face.
The guy I sold my Hero just updated to the official OTA 2.1 a couple of days ago. Guess what? It's flying! I wouldn't believe it if I couldn't see with my own eyes.
I love what you guys do here. I really do. I'm amazed and impressed with all the work and effort you put in these custom ROMs. I'm reading all the interesting threads, tips, tricks etc. It's good to have a place like this board. It's good to have full control over our handsets, install software others can't. But I kinda like the way HTC puts together and tests its ROMs even if it's bloated with stuff I'll never use. I'll check for updates every hour this weekend Cos I'm eager to try all the new features. Maybe later I'll switch to a custom ROM which is based on the official, but for now I'm focusing on the "Check now" button
even though it hurts to say so.. but I agree
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Yes, I understand the Official Froyo maybe more stable since it's more updated and complete than the leaked Froyo in custom ROM. But really is it worth the upgrade?? What I mean, when you upgrade to official froyo you will loose your root, and possibly a new updated radio that would maybe need "Paul" time to hack again. Without the root, it may not be possible to change to different ROM. I am pretty sure, once those official FROYO is out...there would be lots of different custom ROM MOD based on Official FROYO available?? Also looking at my past experience with HTC, once this official 2.2 update is available, they wont update very often anymore. It maybe better to stay with custom ROM since those cooks tend to get newer system kernel somewhere. I guess for me, even if the update is out, I will just wait out till someone make new custom ROM based on this official FROYO? cheer...that's just my opinion.
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Why would it not possible to root back after unrooting? Since rooting is now riskfree...
What I would like is a standard final realease, rooted and A2SD+'ed, thats it, no other mod`s.
as long as froyo doesn't modify the hboot to a new version, you can always rollback and unroot.
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Why would it not possible to root back after unrooting? Since rooting is now riskfree...
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Because the leaked froyo came with a new HBOOT (which was removed by devs here) which at the moment is unrootable. And may be unrootable forever!
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coercri said:
What I would like is a standard final realease, rooted and A2SD+'ed, thats it, no other mod`s.
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Me too
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coercri said:
What I would like is a standard final realease, rooted and A2SD+'ed, thats it, no other mod`s.
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Agreed, I finally took the plunge to root and A2SD, the latter of which is amazing Is it really too much to ask for, just to install apps on the SD?
I will wait for Froyo Official-based custom ROMS!
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Me too
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That would be perfect..! And wake phone with the select button.
I was near to unroot and and go back to the normal rom. But now not anymore after what u guys said. Thx.
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So if someone buy a HTC desire after the update he may not be able to get root ever. Lucky us!
Sent from my HTC Desire using my fingers.
I highly doubt no one is ever going to be able to root if they officially upgrade to 2.2. It will happen, it might just take a while that's all for Paul and co. to do it..
I think that all of you that says that the new Hboot could not be hacked, underestimate many very very skilled peoples knowledge. Just because it isn't cracked now, it not equal to *incrackable*.
I am very certain that it will be cracked or something else and then root access can be achieved again.
Will there be an Official Gingerbread RUU for Desire in future for unrooted phones?
Probably. HTC has stated that Desire will get GB in 2011q2, also confirmed by some carriers like 3 UK.
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Here you have a list of phones that will get GB:
-desire (april, may)
https://spreadsheets0.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?hl=en&key=t1gsJlzHwHI5ixGSYajoiCA&hl=en
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852456 said:
Here you have a list of phones that will get GB:
-desire (april, may)
https://spreadsheets0.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?hl=en&key=t1gsJlzHwHI5ixGSYajoiCA&hl=en
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Thanks M8.....Nice Info
Hope this will solve my Bootloop issue.....
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Will there be an Official Gingerbread RUU for Desire in future for unrooted phones?
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There is a leaked Gingerbread for Desire already in market.
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There is a leaked Gingerbread for Desire already in market.
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any chance of pointing me in teh direction of said RUU?
Cheers
No RUU available, only leaked test ROM - try Leedroid 3.0.7 0 that's based on it.
Try RcmixS 2.0. Its GB Sense 2.1+3.0 from Sensation Rom
But there´s no GB RUU for Desire yet.
HTC Desire [UPDATED 6/14/11]: After promising an Android 2.3 upgrade for its HTC Desire handset, HTC said in mid-June that it had determined the phone would not be able to handle the Gingerbread software along with its integrated Sense UI. In a statement posted to Facebook, HTC said it's "been forced to accept there isn’t enough memory to allow [it] both to bring Gingerbread and keep the HTC Sense experience on the HTC Desire." HTC went on to say it was "sincerely sorry for the disappointment." British carrier Three had previously indicated the software would be ready to roll out to the Desire by the end of May. The carrier later said HTC hadn't "been able to meet the late May timings that were set."
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HTC Desire [UPDATED 6/14/11]: After promising an Android 2.3 upgrade for its HTC Desire handset, HTC said in mid-June that it had determined the phone would not be able to handle the Gingerbread software along with its integrated Sense UI. In a statement posted to Facebook, HTC said it's "been forced to accept there isn’t enough memory to allow [it] both to bring Gingerbread and keep the HTC Sense experience on the HTC Desire." HTC went on to say it was "sincerely sorry for the disappointment." British carrier Three had previously indicated the software would be ready to roll out to the Desire by the end of May. The carrier later said HTC hadn't "been able to meet the late May timings that were set."
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Short translation: HTC said, "if you want to have Gingerbread Sense, buy our new product lines for example Sensation!"
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Will there be an Official Gingerbread RUU for Desire in future for unrooted phones?
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Bad News for all who are waiting for official update for Desire (Count Me too )
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_desire_will_not_be_updated_to_gingerbread-news-2779.php
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Short translation: HTC said, "if you want to have Gingerbread Sense, buy our new product lines for example Sensation!"
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HTC Nederlands announced that you have to use a custom ROM when you will have Sense and Gingerbread
And another phone is stuck in an old android version because of the manufacturer interface. I love Sense but the simplest solution could be:
- the ROM contains only android
- an extra app which install the interface
but then the interface is now longer an argument to but a device from this manufacturer because you can then install it everywhere. Then only the hardware counts...
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HTC Nederlands announced that you have to use a custom ROM when you will have Sense and Gingerbread
And another phone is stuck in an old android version because of the manufacturer interface. I love Sense but the simplest solution could be:
- the ROM contains only android
- an extra app which install the interface
but then the interface is now longer an argument to but a device from this manufacturer because you can then install it everywhere. Then only the hardware counts...
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1.
I know I am running InsertCoin 1.0.8 CM7 and have not used any original RUU since a long time but not providing the official ROM and relying fully to custom ROMs is wrong.
Not everyone can/wanna root their devices because they are afraid to loose the warranty by doing so or simply because they do not have enough basic knowledge to do it.
Not all Desire owners are all computer freaks like most of the people here in the forum (including me), some are simply complete illiterate about computer.
Even, I have thought about loosing the warranty over, over and over until I decided to root my Desire and to flash a custom ROM before I got the flashing addiction.
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Not supporting old devices with updates is acceptable but Desire is not that old. The device has to be older than 2 years before stopping any update.
Stop, htc never say, that they stop the support or never an update for the desire will come.
Only, an upgrade(!) to gingerbread is not possible.
Looks like they've retracted the statement and the HTC will be getting Gingerbread, with Sense though?
techmagister.com/2011/06/15/desire-will-get-gingerbread-htc-uk-changed-their-words-again
I think what they'll do is keep the old version of sense. I would not be willing to give up any more space on my desire, it has barely enough room for all the apps I want, so they won't update sense.
pranavd1980 said:
Bad News for all who are waiting for official update for Desire (Count Me too )
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_desire_will_not_be_updated_to_gingerbread-news-2779.php
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Woohoooooo....Its Coming Now....
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_takes_its_words_back_gingerbread_for_the_desire_is_a_go_-news-2781.php
Hi.
As much as I really like the xda forums, I am having real trouble searching for my answer. Maybe I am thinking illogically!
I am in U.K. on Vodafone.
My CID is VODAP001
Android version 4.0.4
HTC Sense version 4.1
I have installed Android Revolution HD 9.4.1
If relevant, my HTC SDK API level is 4.23
In a nutshell, I am hoping to install JB update - either the official Vodafone one, or possibly Revolution (if I can figure out if that is fully functional for my device).
I hoped that Vodafone would have released the OTA update before now. But I don't know if my install of Revo is stopping my device from automatically looking for updates.
I thought I would be able to go to settings/about/software and search for updates, but that option doesn't seem to be available (is Revolution switching this feature off?)
So:
Is it worth me trying to roll back to stock, and manually check for updates periodically?
(If so, please could someone point me to a recent no brainer post on how to do this?)
Or:
Does the latest JB release of Revolution work with my model/network?
(If so, do I need to roll back to stock and start from scratch, or can I "update" my current version.
Whilst I am not totally noob to all this, I do find it slightly daunting, and I can't always tell which threads are the most relevant or up to date, so please excuse me if my questions are obvious to you. I just find that after a while on XDA I have loads of tabs and it all gets a bit backwardy and forwardy!
Many thanks in advance.
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Hi.
As much as I really like the xda forums, I am having real trouble searching for my answer. Maybe I am thinking illogically!
I am in U.K. on Vodafone.
My CID is VODAP001
Android version 4.0.4
HTC Sense version 4.1
I have installed Android Revolution HD 9.4.1
If relevant, my HTC SDK API level is 4.23
In a nutshell, I am hoping to install JB update - either the official Vodafone one, or possibly Revolution (if I can figure out if that is fully functional for my device).
I hoped that Vodafone would have released the OTA update before now. But I don't know if my install of Revo is stopping my device from automatically looking for updates.
I thought I would be able to go to settings/about/software and search for updates, but that option doesn't seem to be available (is Revolution switching this feature off?)
So:
Is it worth me trying to roll back to stock, and manually check for updates periodically?
(If so, please could someone point me to a recent no brainer post on how to do this?)
Or:
Does the latest JB release of Revolution work with my model/network?
(If so, do I need to roll back to stock and start from scratch, or can I "update" my current version.
Whilst I am not totally noob to all this, I do find it slightly daunting, and I can't always tell which threads are the most relevant or up to date, so please excuse me if my questions are obvious to you. I just find that after a while on XDA I have loads of tabs and it all gets a bit backwardy and forwardy!
Many thanks in advance.
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Hi,
Your CID has not yet received the official HTC jellybean update. This means that you will NOT be able to get an update from vodafone and also you wont be able to flash Android revollution HD 17.0 (Jellybean).
You will have to wait for HTC to roll out the official JB update for your device.
And none of the custom ROMS (including ARHD 17.0) support OTA update feature. You can update your device OTA ONLY and ONLY if you are on stock ROM, stock recovery and stock kernel.
anks257 said:
Hi,
Your CID has not yet received the official HTC jellybean update. This means that you will NOT be able to get an update from vodafone and also you wont be able to flash Android revollution HD 17.0 (Jellybean).
You will have to wait for HTC to roll out the official JB update for your device.
And none of the custom ROMS (including ARHD 17.0) support OTA update feature. You can update your device OTA ONLY and ONLY if you are on stock ROM, stock recovery and stock kernel.
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You can update your device OTA ONLY and ONLY if you are on stock ROM, stock recovery and stock kernel.
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Unless it's a future Revolution (or similar) release?
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Unless it's a future Revolution (or similar) release?
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There are custom ROMs that support OTA, but ARHD is not one.