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I think the EVO 4G and Sprint still the best out there

After having my EVO 4G, and on Sprint for the first time since getting my EVO, I am very satisfied still, 8 months later.
My EVO is rooted with "Myn's" ROM, and the phone is blazing fast, ans silky smooth, and so customizable it is awesome. I think the EVO is still one of the top Android phones available, even after 6+ months being out, only the HTC Thunderbolt being better.
And Sprint service in Chicago has been very good. Much better than T-Mobile which is very spotty and known for dropped calls, and has the worst building penetration making T-Mobile phones useless inside buildings. And ATT isn't much better. Sure Verizon might be the best, but you pay through the nose for Verizon, very expensive plans. Sprint pricing is great for what you get, and their Family plans for two phones is very affordable.
I have hope Sprint will surprise us this summer with some awesome new phones. I do believe we will see an EVO2 in June or July, and it will be the best Android phone to date. And also expect to see a nice Samsung Galaxy 2 phone sooner.
So for me personally I am staying with Sprint. Unless Summer and Fall comes and goes with no new high end Android releases, then I will jump ship. But I am sure in the next 6 months or sooner Sprint will get one or two top end Droids.
And the iPhone 4 on Verizon is just not worth it to me. Not customizable unless jailbreaked, and the pricing plans on Verizon for 2 iPhone4's on a family plan are way higher than 2 EVO's on Sprint.

Well can't disagree with you. I've only had my Evo since about this past November, running CM7 nightlies, and wouldn't go back. Verizon is expensive and I believe the Thunderbolt will be competition, and the iPhone can sit on the bench and look at the Android it wishes it could be.

Zorachus said:
After having my EVO 4G, and on Sprint for the first time since getting my EVO, I am very satisfied still, 8 months later.
My EVO is rooted with "Myn's" ROM, and the phone is blazing fast, ans silky smooth, and so customizable it is awesome. I think the EVO is still one of the top Android phones available, even after 6+ months being out, only the HTC Thunderbolt being better.
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Obviously you are happy with Myn's ROM have you used any others? I kinda got my self into a bind by rooting and not really being knowledgeable enough to know what I was getting into. What are the things you like about Myn's ROM and is it easy enough to update and not have to flash 17 different components to get it to work. Obviously a generalized question but I would like to be able to not have to spend hours in forums trying to figure out how to correct and get pieces to work such as 4G and font fixes and HULU fixes and app2sd, etc.
Thanks in Advance for any advice.

jbrun7 said:
Obviously you are happy with Myn's ROM have you used any others? I kinda got my self into a bind by rooting and not really being knowledgeable enough to know what I was getting into. What are the things you like about Myn's ROM and is it easy enough to update and not have to flash 17 different components to get it to work. Obviously a generalized question but I would like to be able to not have to spend hours in forums trying to figure out how to correct and get pieces to work such as 4G and font fixes and HULU fixes and app2sd, etc.
Thanks in Advance for any advice.
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I like "Myn's" ROM the best because it still keeps the core "Sense UI" components, I like the dialer, contacts, and e-mail that Sense provides, it is just put together smart and nice design, no need to change it. But Myn's also get rid of the crappy Sprint and other bloatware that will slow down your phone. And his ROM makes the phone faster and smoother, but also good on battery too.
You just need the main zip file for Myn's, and a few add on's to make it look cooler, they all on the first page of his ROM. I have tried the other very popular ROM, Cyanogen 6.1, and it is very well done, just not my cup of tea, because of the lack of Sense. I like the business aspect feel of Sense, very clean, and great for certain functions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=793471

You would be happy with Myns RLS5. It's a sense Rom, so its like stock, only faster, lighter, looks better and with awesome battery life. 4g works, and under his addons, he has the hacked flash for hulu. I don't know much about app2sd, never had ran out of memory yet.
I would try that with a netarchy-toastmod kernel. I was able to get 14 hours of battery life with medium usage on the stock battery. That would put you at only two flashes, one for the Rom and one for the kernel.
If you want visual customizations, you would have to find what theme/icons/etc you like and flash it.
Hope this helps out a bit

I agree with the OP. The EVO has been hands down the best phone I've ever owned and I currently have no "phone envy" but will happily purchase the sequel to this phone when it comes out.
Android phones are at the point where there's not very much that can be added to give phone envy. They all do the same thing. I guess the only thing that would make the phone better is an AMOLED or Super LCD screen. Other than that, what else does the new generation of phones do that mine can't? 3D? Don't care. Dual-cores? AFAIK, Android can't even utilize dual-cores properly yet. More RAM? Besides AMOLED/Super LCD, this is probably the only thing I'd want more of even though I haven't yet reached a point where I've been limited by the amount of RAM the EVO has. More Storage? Eh, 3rd place on my list of wants.

I agree the Sprint / EVO 4G combination cannot be beat out there if you look the following factors:
Cost of service - Unlimited Data / Text / Any carrier Mobile to Mobile = 109.99 (incl. $10 4G fee)
VZW - Unlimited Data / 5000 Text messages / Only 5 phone #s on any carrier unlimited = 119.98 (VZW hasn't published their LTE 4G fee yet, but assume it will be $10 so that puts the total up to 129.98)
Specs for phone
Only phone to beat EVO specs isn't officially released yet.. the Thunderbolt on Verizon. Thunderbolt beats Evo on following specs:
Sense 2.0 vs EVO Sense 1.6
RAM 768 vs EVO 512
Internal Memory 8GB and 32GB SD Card included vs EVO 1GB and 8GB
Weight 5.5 oz vs EVO 6.0 oz
Difference in weight is most likely due to the SMALLER battery the Thunderbolt is coming out with.. 1400mAh vs Evo 1500mAh.
So taking into account cost of plans and even when the Thunderbolt comes out the Evo specs are still VERY comparable, I would go with Sprint and the 4G any day.
I have heard rumor that Sprint is going to do away with the Unlimited Everything plans, but my local Sprint reps deny this. Has anyone else heard anything?

jbrun7 said:
Obviously you are happy with Myn's ROM have you used any others? I kinda got my self into a bind by rooting and not really being knowledgeable enough to know what I was getting into. What are the things you like about Myn's ROM and is it easy enough to update and not have to flash 17 different components to get it to work. Obviously a generalized question but I would like to be able to not have to spend hours in forums trying to figure out how to correct and get pieces to work such as 4G and font fixes and HULU fixes and app2sd, etc.
Thanks in Advance for any advice.
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make a backup and try them all, you will learn with hands on experience, it may look daunting and difficult at first but its not.
and don't listen to the mynions, they are brainwashed and will mynja your phone and brainwash you too

I actually got **kind of** bored with my Evo recently, and I went phone shopping for something newer and better. I couldn't find anything! There's literally not another phone on the market today that I would trade my Evo for.

NewZJ said:
make a backup and try them all, you will learn with hands on experience, it may look daunting and difficult at first but its not.
and don't listen to the mynions, they are brainwashed and will mynja your phone and brainwash you too
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Haha mynions? That's not such a bad thing!
I dunno I tried asop but it just wasn't me. I like sense, been using sense since the HTC diamond days. Just used to it I guess. To each their own though, each has pros and cons.

matt2053 said:
I actually got **kind of** bored with my Evo recently, and I went phone shopping for something newer and better. I couldn't find anything! There's literally not another phone on the market today that I would trade my Evo for.
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i know right i did the same and cant even find a different android that can beat the evos specs in todays android phones , evo is simply amazing

Funny I was talking to my brother (epic 4G user really pissed about official froyo)and my sister (HTC shift 4G user ) and evo had been my best phone so far so many roms to choose from is like having different phone and there is nothing in the market the I envy, at one point I got the iPhone 4 and returned and wanted the nice screen from the galaxy phones, but I mean Verizon coming out with HTC thunderbolt 8 months later that I got my evo which is an Evo with update look and update sense but everything else we had for the past 8 months so seriously they mess up I hope they come out with an Evo 2 and if they don't that would really be dumb part from sprint and HTC
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Zorachus said:
I like "Myn's" ROM the best because it still keeps the core "Sense UI" components, I like the dialer, contacts, and e-mail that Sense provides, it is just put together smart and nice design, no need to change it. But Myn's also get rid of the crappy Sprint and other bloatware that will slow down your phone. And his ROM makes the phone faster and smoother, but also good on battery too.
You just need the main zip file for Myn's, and a few add on's to make it look cooler, they all on the first page of his ROM. I have tried the other very popular ROM, Cyanogen 6.1, and it is very well done, just not my cup of tea, because of the lack of Sense. I like the business aspect feel of Sense, very clean, and great for certain functions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=793471
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Thanks for the info. I am looking for something that has the Sense UI and close to stock. I also want something easy to maintain and MYN's ROM may be just that. I have looked over Myn's site and downloaded the ROM. I will give it a try.

robbyhousley said:
You would be happy with Myns RLS5. It's a sense Rom, so its like stock, only faster, lighter, looks better and with awesome battery life. 4g works, and under his addons, he has the hacked flash for hulu. I don't know much about app2sd, never had ran out of memory yet.
I would try that with a netarchy-toastmod kernel. I was able to get 14 hours of battery life with medium usage on the stock battery. That would put you at only two flashes, one for the Rom and one for the kernel.
If you want visual customizations, you would have to find what theme/icons/etc you like and flash it.
Hope this helps out a bit
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Not to up on kernals. Which netarchy-toastmod kernel did you use?
Thanks for any info.

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Not to up on kernals. Which netarchy-toastmod kernel did you use?
Thanks for any info.
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I've had great luck with the 4.3.2 CFS SBC kernels

I'm not knocking myn's rom at all (it was actually the first rom I ever flashed) but I'm currently using mikfroyo v4.4 with chogardjr's blue theme and I love it. Super fast, no bloatware, and hulu works. I'm also running a sbc kernel. (I forget which one but check my sig)

omg this is a pleasant discussion and change of pace from the General section. It seems the people who only have only one descended testicle hang out there.
I LOVE my Evo. It's giant, fast, 4g with all the bells and whistles. Our dev community is amazing. My plan is cheaper than it's ever been.
As for Roms, I'm using Konikub Elite Rom right now with MS79723's SBC kernel #15 v7. I get roughly 12 hours of battery life with moderate-heavy usage.
I have used Myn RLS5 and MikFroyo 4.5. Also have some experience with a Gingerbread Rom. I've used CM on prior phones, but I love my 4g too much to not use it.
Big fan of the Evo and I can't wait to see what our successor looks like.

I just hope Sprint really does get a high end Android successor to the EVO this Summer. Rumors of T-Mobile getting the first next gen HTC device in May, will be dual core, 4.3" screen, same form factor as the EVO.
I am afraid that Sprint won't get a true EVO 2 ? Might have to hope for a solid Samsung Galaxy S2 device, they are supposed to me much improved, with larger screen, dual core, better battery, and brand new next gen Super AMOLED screen. As long as it can be rooted quickly and good ROM's made for it, I would be all over that. But not even sure Sprint will get that either.

I agree even after having my evo fro 6 months I find more tweaks and items to make my phone better. Love it!

jbrun7 said:
Not to up on kernals. Which netarchy-toastmod kernel did you use?
Thanks for any info.
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I'm using netarchys newest beta (4.3.2) more aggressive havs no sbc. Havs is a type of auto voltage regulation and sbc is the super battery mod which enables trickle charge beyond 90% to keep your battery charged as the stock HTC drivers stop charging at 100% and don't charge again until it drops to 90%, I don't use it cause of reports that it might damage the battery, so I stick to non sbc kernels.

Looking for a new phone, is the Incredible 2 the one to get?

My girlfriend has a Blackberry Storm and looking to upgrade to a Android phone soon. I took at a look at the Droid Incredible 2 and was impressed. I know the newer phones like Thunderbolt and Charge have 4G but it also eats battery life.
I want to stay between $150 and $200. Any suggestions?

get it. i would definitely say its a worthwhile buy, especially given it has better battery life than the lte phones out. and now with it being rootable, makes it even better phone

androidmonkey said:
My girlfriend has a Blackberry Storm and looking to upgrade to a Android phone soon. I took at a look at the Droid Incredible 2 and was impressed. I know the newer phones like Thunderbolt and Charge have 4G but it also eats battery life.
I want to stay between $150 and $200. Any suggestions?
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you might want to look for an inc1 at that price. which is still my first love.

andybones said:
you might want to look for an inc1 at that price. which is still my first love.
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Why an Inc1 when you can get an Inc2 for $149?

I had an Epic 4G before switching to the Inc2. Must happier with this, more solid, slicker interface, longer (about 2x) battery life. htc synch works unlike Samsung Kies! Only flaw it is incredibly difficult to root.

My girlfriend has it too, and its a sweet phone, and I don't see any difficulties with rooting as long as you get it and it still has 2.2.1 on it. Then just get AlpharevX and S-off you are, then go ahead and install whatever you like, personally I installed CM7 for her, and it runs great and gets quadrant scores about 700 higher (1500 upto 2200) and that's on stock clocks too, you can overclock easily if you wanna also lol so yeah I'd say go ahead, and enjoy leaving that blackberry behind lol
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sgiitk said:
I had an Epic 4G before switching to the Inc2. Must happier with this, more solid, slicker interface, longer (about 2x) battery life. htc synch works unlike Samsung Kies! Only flaw it is incredibly difficult to root.
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It took my 20 min to root and put cm7 on it
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New Incredible 2 User coming from Fascinate!

Just wondering what you guys think are some of the benefits aside from Development, HTC Sense, Rooting-Unrooting, Battery life!
Pretty much the pros & cons you've come to love or hate about your DInc2!
Thanks

thekylebrody said:
Just wondering what you guys think are some of the benefits aside from Development, HTC Sense, Rooting-Unrooting, Battery life!
Pretty much the pros & cons you've come to love or hate about your DInc2!
Thanks
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pros: awesome battery life, form factor, *good* screen, sense (i like it at least), world phone, strong signal/data speeds, performance even stock is amazing for a single core phone, flashing things from one recovery and not having to odin xxx recovery to use xyz rom etc , all 3 major aosp roms available
cons: the gb root situation, screen is a step down from samoled (although not as awful as u would be lead to believe, smaller development community (but growing)

This phone is leaps and bounds better than the Fassy, for me at least.
Pros: Nearly everything about this is better than the Fassy. Except the screen of course. (That has blacker blacks than the blacks on my black coloured phone.)
Cons: The root is non-existent for OTA Gingerbread. And the Fassy was 10x smoother. But we'll see after I get root.
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I came from the D1 running liquid gingerbread and oc'ed to 1Ghz. That was my favorite phone ever then my screen went out.
Pros: I like the larger screen size, it's bigger but not too big. The battery life is amazing. I do seem to have better signal and faster UL and DL speeds.
Cons: the sound isn't as loud as my D1. Not a fan of the SRS WOWHD as the only time I listen to music is in my vehicle and I don't need the SRS WOWHD. In call volume isn't as good either. At first I thought my hearing was getting worse than what it already is bit after some research others feel the volume is lower as well. And of course the GB issue. I can't wait to get s-off but right now I'm on a tight budget as I will be moving soon and my job may or may not be paying for the move so no xtc clip for this guy for about 2-3 months.
Overall though this phone is awesome. I don't think it will ever fully replace my D1 but it already comes close so we'll see.
Sent from my DINC2 in Yuma, AZ

What is the Situation with GB Root?
Can S-Off, Root, CWM only be achieved in FroYo??
Cause I'm pretty certain the Dinc2 I receive Tuesday will more than likely have GB..
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I came from D1, then Inc1, X, fascinate, and now shot down for Charge and ready to Join the Dinc2 Community!
D1 Rooting was pie!
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thekylebrody said:
What is the Situation with GB Root?
Can S-Off, Root, CWM only be achieved in FroYo??
Cause I'm pretty certain the Dinc2 I receive Tuesday will more than likely have GB..
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Correct, there is no way to S-off the GB OTA yet. I just picked up the DI2 from Costco yesterday and luckily it still had froyo on it. Was rooted and rom'ed in 40 minutes.

I came from a fassy and so far I really like it. I actually really like the screen not missing the fassy screen and the thing is smooth.
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Honestly the Inc2 without root is still an amazing phone. Fantastic battery life, pretty fast. I feel it has more stock features than the Fascinate and I would definitely choose the Incredible2 over it. I'm sure they will find a way to root the Inc 2 GB soon.

Another fortunate recipient of a DINC2 from the Fassy fiasco.
I was rooted and rocking UKB2.1 on the Fassy, aside from the bloatware, I prefer the stock DIN2!
What is s-off? I understand it is required for root, but what the hell does it mean? Also, what is the xtc-clip?
Thanks! Looking forward to some DINC2 dev!

Darkpsych0 said:
Honestly the Inc2 without root is still an amazing phone. Fantastic battery life, pretty fast. I feel it has more stock features than the Fascinate and I would definitely choose the Incredible2 over it. I'm sure they will find a way to root the Inc 2 GB soon.
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Well it sucks that as soon as I'm leaving the Fascinate due to call sms gps & data issue's CM7 Nightlies become available for it. And the rooting aspect was cake with superoneclick and odin flashing.
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It was a hassle trying to find a reliable radio for the Fascinate,having to turn voodoo on/off, getting the gps to work, etc. I found myself having to tinker the hell out of the device to get it to work properly. The inc2 is great out of box. I agree with what nitsuj said about the device.

I'm hurt stevl! No agreeing with me Q.Q lol
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Darkpsych0 said:
I'm hurt stevl! No agreeing with me Q.Q lol
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Lol I agree with you too
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[Q] Have any of you guys made it through the rooting process yet!? JW
I know ill love it stock like I did Inc1, but I need CM7 in my life!
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I haven't rooted. There is no root for Gingerbread yet. I like the phone stock anyways. I think there is a signal issue with CM7 and Miui on Inc2. I could be wrong though, but thought I read that somewhere.

thekylebrody said:
[Q] Have any of you guys made it through the rooting process yet!? JW
I know ill love it stock like I did Inc1, but I need CM7 in my life!
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Most of the Droid Inc2s now are coming out with Gingerbread preloaded and there isn't a root out unless you use a XTC clip for it. IF by chance you get it preloaded with Froyo then you're good to go.

We picked up a DI2 from Costco for $30 this last Saturday and it still had froyo on it. Was rooted and rom'ed in 40 min. Easy peasy

Just out of curiosity... I'm coming from Fascinate also. This will be the first time I've gotten a new smart phone. What is the best way to backup my apps+data and move them to the DINC2 when I get it. Will TiBu work? Is there a more simple solution. I'm really just wanting to port over my Angry Birds progress and my Memo Pad app (not the stock sammy one) that has some important information on it. What method did you guys use if any?

TiBu only works if you have root, so if you get a DI2 with GB on it TiBu will not work for you. I know there are apps on the market that will save your angry birds progress. Not sure about your other app, it may say your notes to your sdcard.

[Q] Inc1, inc2 questions.

I was thinking about getting an inc2, upgrading from my inc, and I was wondering if it'd be worth it, does anybody have generally a lot of experience with the inc1, and gotten the inc2, and liked it better? Is the hardware well, better? What about amount of roms, and other software things of that sort; is there a wider variety available for it, than there is for the original inc? Another question, since the Incredible 2 and Incredible S are almost basically the same phone, would roms for the inc S work on the inc2, or would they just not be compatible? Thanks, whoever might answer these.

I never had the original but i have had quite a few androids (aria, captivate,inspire, thunderbolt, and even an evo3d for a short time) i can honestly say the dinc2 is the most rock solid phone out of all of them. Its definitely underrated i love it. But no unfortunately inc s roms are not compatible

oxlong27 said:
I never had the original but i have had quite a few androids (aria, captivate,inspire, thunderbolt, and even an evo3d for a short time) i can honestly say the dinc2 is the most rock solid phone out of all of them. Its definitely underrated i love it. But no unfortunately inc s roms are not compatible
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I own both of them. it's worth it. It's an outstanding phone.

Alright, thanks for the responses guys! Hopefully I'll be joining the inc2 community here in a few weeks, though it's gonna be sort of hard to leave the original inc after many months being a flash addict with it...

No worries we got plenty of good stuff to flash and our development is still pretty young. I think u chose the right phone, the thunderbolt got all the hype but i had one and absolutely hated it. Buggy ass phone with abysmal battery life, at least mine was
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Just hope you don't get one with 2.3.4.
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Just hope you don't get one with 2.3.4.
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Me too, I really don't want to have to get a clip just to be able to root it. If I do, hopefully by the time I get one, there'll be a way to root it.

I had the Eris, then the Inc1, and now Inc2, Love it. highly suggest it.

may I ask, why not 2.3.4. I will get an Incredible 2 very soon but not sure about which version it has.
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Just hope you don't get one with 2.3.4.
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They don't have S-OFF for 2.3.4 yet. I guess it just depends were you purchase it. I purchased mine on amazon wireless and it came with froyo.

I had the original Inc 1 and now have the Inc2. Underrated is the best way to describe the Inc2.
It's everything that I wanted my Inc1 to be: faster and better battery life.
I was lucky to snag one off ebay that had Android 2.3 on it, and on first boot I made sure I rejected the OTA. Then I rooted as soon as I could.
I think the Inc2 is the best Verizon phone out right now, and here's why:
1. Form factor - at 4.0" screen is big, but not too big. All high end verizon phones are too big, imo, at 4.3"
2. It's fast - sure, on paper, it's rated at the same speed of 1Ghz as the Inc1, but the the CPU is made with the 45nm process instead of the 65nm of Inc1, which means it's faster and more power efficient. Also the Increase in RAM to 768 helps too. When rooted and overclocked (up to 1.9Ghz), it can be as fast as a duo core phone, or faster in some cases. I think it's faster than a Droid3 (duo core), the Inc2 has more ram than the Droid3, that seems to help.
3. It's still 3G - imo, 3G is fast enough, I don't need 4G draining my battery. I don't know why ppl make such a big deal out of 4G, I think battery life is more important in something that's portable.
4. Good battery life - The Inc2 easily lasts twice as long as my Inc1, even with heavy use. And it gets even better when rooted using an undervolted kernel.
5. Good community support - there are a lot of good custom roms for the Inc2. I've tried 4 already and liked them all. And there are enough ppl using the Inc2 that you can find a solution to most of your issues with a quick search.
I don't want a giant phone that's too big for my hands, and doesn't last a day on battery, and is supposedly better than the Inc2.

Great dev support
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armchairbear said:
I had the original Inc 1 and now have the Inc2. Underrated is the best way to describe the Inc2.
It's everything that I wanted my Inc1 to be: faster and better battery life.
I was lucky to snag one off ebay that had Android 2.3 on it, and on first boot I made sure I rejected the OTA. Then I rooted as soon as I could.
I think the Inc2 is the best Verizon phone out right now, and here's why:
1. Form factor - at 4.0" screen is big, but not too big. All high end verizon phones are too big, imo, at 4.3"
2. It's fast - sure, on paper, it's rated at the same speed of 1Ghz as the Inc1, but the the CPU is made with the 45nm process instead of the 65nm of Inc1, which means it's faster and more power efficient. Also the Increase in RAM to 768 helps too. When rooted and overclocked (up to 1.9Ghz), it can be as fast as a duo core phone, or faster in some cases. I think it's faster than a Droid3 (duo core), the Inc2 has more ram than the Droid3, that seems to help.
3. It's still 3G - imo, 3G is fast enough, I don't need 4G draining my battery. I don't know why ppl make such a big deal out of 4G, I think battery life is more important in something that's portable.
4. Good battery life - The Inc2 easily lasts twice as long as my Inc1, even with heavy use. And it gets even better when rooted using an undervolted kernel.
5. Good community support - there are a lot of good custom roms for the Inc2. I've tried 4 already and liked them all. And there are enough ppl using the Inc2 that you can find a solution to most of your issues with a quick search.
I don't want a giant phone that's too big for my hands, and doesn't last a day on battery, and is supposedly better than the Inc2.
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Awesome man , I'm pretty much completely sure this'll be my next phone, and yeah, I don't see why 4G is so important. I don't think I'll dabble in phones like that until that actually becomes more battery efficient. I was thinking about the Thunderbolt, but realized it's horrible battery life, and an extended battery would be too much bulk. Plus, a 4.3in screen at only WVGA starts making it look a little pixelated(sp?). I'd love the Sensation though, if only it'd work on Verizon...But oh well, the inc2 sounds amazing, definitely gonna get it, here in the next month or so.

Love my Incredible2
My Eris 2 yr contract was expiring and I found a brand new Inc 2 on CL for $135. I ended up feeling sorry for the poor guy so I tossed in my old rooted GSB Eris so he would have a phone.
Bummer was, it had just installed 2.3.4... hopefully someone will come up with a fix for that real soon. G3 is plenty fast and the battery easily lasts all day. With moderate use it still has 50-60% at bedtime. Size is perfect, takes great pictures, it's very smooth and fast and so far absolutely trouble free. I just picked up another one for my wife and she can't believe the difference between it and her Eris. We are planning on going with NO contract for a while assuming I can keep my unlimited data plan. Highly recommended!

ccgabe said:
My Eris 2 yr contract was expiring and I found a brand new Inc 2 on CL for $135. I ended up feeling sorry for the poor guy so I tossed in my old rooted GSB Eris so he would have a phone.
Bummer was, it had just installed 2.3.4... hopefully someone will come up with a fix for that real soon. G3 is plenty fast and the battery easily lasts all day. With moderate use it still has 50-60% at bedtime. Size is perfect, takes great pictures, it's very smooth and fast and so far absolutely trouble free. I just picked up another one for my wife and she can't believe the difference between it and her Eris. We are planning on going with NO contract for a while assuming I can keep my unlimited data plan. Highly recommended!
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There is that method with adb, but I mean, you have to know how to use it...I'm still learning that. And that's what I'm doing, not going with the contract, I'm gonna keep my unlimited plan as long as I can. Thanks for the response though

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I had the original Inc 1 and now have the Inc2. Underrated is the best way to describe the Inc2.
It's everything that I wanted my Inc1 to be: faster and better battery life.
I was lucky to snag one off ebay that had Android 2.3 on it, and on first boot I made sure I rejected the OTA. Then I rooted as soon as I could.
I think the Inc2 is the best Verizon phone out right now, and here's why:
1. Form factor - at 4.0" screen is big, but not too big. All high end verizon phones are too big, imo, at 4.3"
2. It's fast - sure, on paper, it's rated at the same speed of 1Ghz as the Inc1, but the the CPU is made with the 45nm process instead of the 65nm of Inc1, which means it's faster and more power efficient. Also the Increase in RAM to 768 helps too. When rooted and overclocked (up to 1.9Ghz), it can be as fast as a duo core phone, or faster in some cases. I think it's faster than a Droid3 (duo core), the Inc2 has more ram than the Droid3, that seems to help.
3. It's still 3G - imo, 3G is fast enough, I don't need 4G draining my battery. I don't know why ppl make such a big deal out of 4G, I think battery life is more important in something that's portable.
4. Good battery life - The Inc2 easily lasts twice as long as my Inc1, even with heavy use. And it gets even better when rooted using an undervolted kernel.
5. Good community support - there are a lot of good custom roms for the Inc2. I've tried 4 already and liked them all. And there are enough ppl using the Inc2 that you can find a solution to most of your issues with a quick search.
I don't want a giant phone that's too big for my hands, and doesn't last a day on battery, and is supposedly better than the Inc2.
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Couldn't agree more I upgraded from the first Inc and I'm in love. This is the best phone I've ever had. Love the size and battery life most.
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i have also used several phones and I have to say the incredible2 has been amazing since i got it, I would recommend it to anybody in the market for an awesome phone

username235 said:
I was thinking about getting an inc2, upgrading from my inc, and I was wondering if it'd be worth it, does anybody have generally a lot of experience with the inc1, and gotten the inc2, and liked it better? Is the hardware well, better? What about amount of roms, and other software things of that sort; is there a wider variety available for it, than there is for the original inc? Another question, since the Incredible 2 and Incredible S are almost basically the same phone, would roms for the inc S work on the inc2, or would they just not be compatible? Thanks, whoever might answer these.
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I never had the original but i have had quite a few androids (aria, captivate,inspire, thunderbolt, and even an evo3d for a short time) i can honestly say the dinc2 is the most rock solid phone out of all of them. Its definitely underrated i love it. But no unfortunately inc s roms are not compatible
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this is for educational and seeking knowledge Purposes only .
Incredible S Roms Could be installed on Incredible 2 , working 100% if you know how . But you should know that developers ( sense 3.5 ) don't usually make their roms Global as i researched . what is available now For incedible 2 are CDMA only sense3.5 roms ( No GSM Support !!! ) , for Incredible S of course it would be GSM only sense 3.5 Roms . if you live in a country that uses GSM networks only , Incredible S is a Better Choice because as i noticed is little development for GSM Support for incredible 2 , you will have to stick with what is issued by Verizon , and of course they would not issue Sense 3.5 .
Now to install Incredible S rom on Incredible 2 ( you must be S-OFF and Rooted ) :
1- you must have similar compatible roms for Incredibles S and Incredible 2
2- replace the Boot.img of the incredible s rom with the same one from the incredible 2 rom inside winrar window ( Don't extract then zip again , just drag and drop )
3- install the rom from recovery as normal , it will Boot OK
4 if you have error starting WiFi ,then flash this Kernel ( inc2_2.6.35.14#18 ) ,it will solve the Problem , thanks to EhabFG ,
the two matching Roms are
EhabFG Android 2.3.5 Runnymed V1.3|EXT4|Full Arabic sense 3.5 ( google it) - Incredible S
-MikRoms-Incredible 2 HD v2.1 [sense 3.5 GB 2.3.5] ( google it ?) - Incredible 2
Please not that Same procedure was tried for the updates issued for those 2 Roms , it did not work ( meaning they are not similar anymore ) although they use the same New Base 1.02.401.1 ????
Some developer suggests the following
- Replace Boot.img
- Replace Kernel (Module Folder ) inside lib
- Replace Sevice.jar in framework folder
hope that would answer your Questions

Considering an S3, but have questions!

It has been about 8 months since I've had a "modern" Android phone, I was really frustrated with the lackluster experience of my Tmo Sensation--it was a dual-core but it honestly didn't seem much better than my Mytouch4g, or my MT3G slide. Many times I would find myself with a laggy experience, which is why I am so hesitant with newer phones still...Well that and the level of development is normally a tadd sketchy and rough around the edges for T-Mobile devices.
1. Is there a high interest in development?
-I know this may sound like a silly question, however it's essential for me because I have had terrible experiences with Samsung dev support for the two Sammies I've owned(Sidekick 4G+Galaxy Player 5). I know the S3 is from may but I would really hate to spend all this money just to find out it's development will play out like the Sidekick 4G's did(never passed froyo, and the player never passed ginger).
2. Bleeding: Is screen bleeding a common issue, and if it is does it get worse over time?
3. How do you guys feel about the CPU/GPU? (can anyone tell me the "min" cpu value?)
4. How do you feel about the screen quality?(this will be my 1st AMOLED & 720P device)
5. Do you experience lag? (if enough people say there's lag that will really turn me away--it's one of those nitpicks that I will not lose...I mean I have a iP4 that's smoother than recent phones--which is saying a lot honestly. )
6. Can someone please explain the whole IMEI loss to me? ( I am willing to remain stock if it means Devs can find a solution--I've rooted, flashed, adb'd, and what not many times but the risks are higher with the S3)
7. If anyone of you are using a S3 in nyc, can you please tell me what kind of data speed it's tugging?
(my sensation had pretty bad 4G/HSPA+ #'s which is why I'm asking this now)
8. Is the 2GB RAM a superfluous feature, or does it partially future-proof the device for 4.x or 5.x?
I know I am asking a lot from you guys, though you have to understand that I don't want to get trapped in a renewed contract with a device that will be cut loose only a few months only after release. I am not into the whole scam of receiving 1 update(as in going from 1 android ver to another) and then never hearing of anything again.

Bump. Doesn't anyone have any input about this phone? -_-

Most if not all of your question are answered in other post, people just get tired and rewriting everything. So dont expect the same questions to get answered every time.
So your coming from some less desired devices, you will deff see dev support on a much higher level. I mean this is the Galaxy S 3 not some low end device.
My advice is make the jump or go try it for the 14 days and return if ya dont like it ( i bet you will like it).
Well good luck,
Trilaxx

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So your coming from some less desired devices
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Actually the G1, Mytouch 4g, and sensation were really active with many projects. It's just that my experience with samsung phones is a bit shaky.
trilaxx said:
I mean this is the Galaxy S 3 not some low end device.
My advice is make the jump or go try it for the 14 days and return if ya dont like it ( i bet you will like it).
Well good luck,
Trilaxx
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That's what people said about the Amaze 4G, Rezound, Galaxy SII(tmo), and Galaxy S Blaze...Those aren't low end but they never took off development wise. I am wondering whether or not Devs are scared away due to the S4 being in the Galaxy instead of the Exynos--so far I see about 20+ ROMs for the int'l S3 and 1-5 active ones for this S3. That is why I show great hesitation with new Android phones, their futures are always uncertain if the device isn't international or a Nexus. I tried this device briefly at a tmo store and I though it was really okay, but that's cause it was hooked up to a display stand so I couldn't get a real feel for it.

I came from the sensation to the S3 and am very happy.
It really all comes down to how you use your phone. I did like HTC sense, and sense 4.0 was nice through some of the custom roms available.
But the S3, in my opinion is way better. But its going to come down to your personal opinion.
I have not had any problems with the phone- granted I got it 2 weeks ago and not at release so I haven't had it too long. But still no problems.
THe screen is very nice, again in my opinion. There are some that say they don't like it and it could be better.

pytyper483 said:
I came from the sensation to the S3 and am very happy.
It really all comes down to how you use your phone. I did like HTC sense, and sense 4.0 was nice through some of the custom roms available.
But the S3, in my opinion is way better. But its going to come down to your personal opinion.
I have not had any problems with the phone- granted I got it 2 weeks ago and not at release so I haven't had it too long. But still no problems.
THe screen is very nice, again in my opinion. There are some that say they don't like it and it could be better.
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Well since you've owed a Sensation, can you tell me if you notice a difference in performance. I mainly ditched the Sensation because it didn't seem very fast, it lagged very often but keep in mind this was before ICS was out for it. Honestly I have lost faith in Qualcomm's competence--they really threw me off when they made their S3's as a A8/A9 design.

Thats probably one of the main reasons I switched from the sensation... that and i couldn't seem to find one with a speaker phone I could actually hear...
I haven't noticied any lag at all on the S3. Not like the sensation. It was definitely noticeable, esp on the stock rom. I've only had S3 for about 2 weeks and love it. I haven't tried any custom roms yet, but have rooted and installed google wallet which works great. I still haven't tweeked it too much or loaded it up with apps and media.
Keep in mind, you have 14 days to decide if you like the phone.

Ace42 said:
Actually the G1, Mytouch 4g, and sensation were really active with many projects. It's just that my experience with samsung phones is a bit shaky.
That's what people said about the Amaze 4G, Rezound, Galaxy SII(tmo), and Galaxy S Blaze...Those aren't low end but they never took off development wise. I am wondering whether or not Devs are scared away due to the S4 being in the Galaxy instead of the Exynos--so far I see about 20+ ROMs for the int'l S3 and 1-5 active ones for this S3. That is why I show great hesitation with new Android phones, their futures are always uncertain if the device isn't international or a Nexus. I tried this device briefly at a tmo store and I though it was really okay, but that's cause it was hooked up to a display stand so I couldn't get a real feel for it.
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Im coming from the Mytouch 4g, followed by the HTC Sensation. Their is not a better device on the market then the s3.
My First thoughts were, its a little bigger than i hoped. But after a week worth of use, Anything smaller seems obsolete.
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Ace42 said:
Well since you've owed a Sensation, can you tell me if you notice a difference in performance. I mainly ditched the Sensation because it didn't seem very fast, it lagged very often but keep in mind this was before ICS was out for it. Honestly I have lost faith in Qualcomm's competence--they really threw me off when they made their S3's as a A8/A9 design.
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Its a completely different animal. I can promise it will meet and exceed your expectations.
On another note. I average 18+ hours of pretty decent usage.
My sensation goes on the charger @ noon typically. Not this. I get home with 40% left..

1SiK1500 said:
Im coming from the Mytouch 4g, followed by the HTC Sensation. Their is not a better device on the market then the s3.
My First thoughts were, its a little bigger than i hoped. But after a week worth of use, Anything smaller seems obsolete.
Its a completely different animal. I can promise it will meet and exceed your expectations.
On another note. I average 18+ hours of pretty decent usage.
My sensation goes on the charger @ noon typically. Not this. I get home with 40% left..
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Well that is very good news, I prefer to hear experiences from people who have at least owned similar or same phones as myself.
pytyper483 said:
Thats probably one of the main reasons I switched from the sensation... that and i couldn't seem to find one with a speaker phone I could actually hear...
I haven't noticied any lag at all on the S3. Not like the sensation. It was definitely noticeable, esp on the stock rom. I've only had S3 for about 2 weeks and love it. I haven't tried any custom roms yet, but have rooted and installed google wallet which works great. I still haven't tweeked it too much or loaded it up with apps and media.
Keep in mind, you have 14 days to decide if you like the phone.
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Well I am happy to hear that it's not a mess like the Sensation. It had a nice look to it, but speed wise it was a joke for a dualcore phone. If you say there's no lag on ICS, then I can only imagine what would happen if it got JB+project butter. I guess you have put my fear of lag to rest. However I will wait a little while longer to see if Dev support picks up, right now it seems to be where tmobile's SII+amaze were at in their early life(which was a bad place). Once I see at least 10 active aosp/aopk/CM10 ROMs I will definitely get one. Thanks for everything! :fingers-crossed:

Ace42 said:
It has been about 8 months since I've had a "modern" Android phone, I was really frustrated with the lackluster experience of my Tmo Sensation--it was a dual-core but it honestly didn't seem much better than my Mytouch4g, or my MT3G slide. Many times I would find myself with a laggy experience, which is why I am so hesitant with newer phones still...Well that and the level of development is normally a tadd sketchy and rough around the edges for T-Mobile devices.
1. Is there a high interest in development?
-I know this may sound like a silly question, however it's essential for me because I have had terrible experiences with Samsung dev support for the two Sammies I've owned(Sidekick 4G+Galaxy Player 5). I know the S3 is from may but I would really hate to spend all this money just to find out it's development will play out like the Sidekick 4G's did(never passed froyo, and the player never passed ginger).
2. Bleeding: Is screen bleeding a common issue, and if it is does it get worse over time?
3. How do you guys feel about the CPU/GPU? (can anyone tell me the "min" cpu value?)
4. How do you feel about the screen quality?(this will be my 1st AMOLED & 720P device)
5. Do you experience lag? (if enough people say there's lag that will really turn me away--it's one of those nitpicks that I will not lose...I mean I have a iP4 that's smoother than recent phones--which is saying a lot honestly. )
6. Can someone please explain the whole IMEI loss to me? ( I am willing to remain stock if it means Devs can find a solution--I've rooted, flashed, adb'd, and what not many times but the risks are higher with the S3)
7. If anyone of you are using a S3 in nyc, can you please tell me what kind of data speed it's tugging?
(my sensation had pretty bad 4G/HSPA+ #'s which is why I'm asking this now)
8. Is the 2GB RAM a superfluous feature, or does it partially future-proof the device for 4.x or 5.x?
I know I am asking a lot from you guys, though you have to understand that I don't want to get trapped in a renewed contract with a device that will be cut loose only a few months only after release. I am not into the whole scam of receiving 1 update(as in going from 1 android ver to another) and then never hearing of anything again.
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1) The phone has been out for a month so development is merely getting started. It will pick up as time goes by and we will see major roms like cyanogen andothers here (CM9 already and cm10 preview available). Many custom made kernels out there that are amazing.
2) Haven't head of screen bleeding on this device and mine (2 days old) has none. Be warned if you have not heard about the black splotches look into it. When screen is on and completely black you may notice some black splotches around the screen (you wont notice on day to day use unless you try to look. Every device varies you might get one with minimal blotches. This is a side effect of the AMOLED.
3) I believe stock cpu was set at 1.4ghz and I'm not sure what min was. Currently have mine overclocked to 1.89ghz max and 385mhz min.I camefrom the HTC one S and they have the same cpu. The snapdragon S4 is a powerhouse bro you will love the fluidity and performance here,
4) I first compared my HTC One S HDLED screen to my friends samsung blaze and I fell in love with the AMOLED screen. It is just has more POP and vibrant colors. You will love it, idk how anyone can dislike this screen it is beautiful and blasphemy to those who use it on anything lower than max brightness.
5) Only time I have experienced lag has been when messing with the CPU clock and when my min profiles are set on setcput to anything lower than 1ghz
6) As far as I know the IMEI loss has been happening when flashing recoveries or flashing cyanogen using a recovery other than CWM. I Rooted and flashed CWM with no problem. Still havent flashed CM9 until it is more "complete" and I make sure the IMEI issue is not ROM flashing related. (again i have been browsing the forums for only 2 days so im still learning the issues here)
7) I live in the Bronx and work in Manhattan. The data speeds in my apartment suck compared to my HTC One S. I was getting 2-5mbps down and up on it but on the S3 I am rarely pulling past 1mbps down and up. This doesn't matter to me as I have wifi on 24/7 at home. At work (85th and Amsterdam I pull an amazing 15-20mbps down and 3-5mbps up in that area. I go giddy when doing speed tests at work.
8) No device is future proof but the 2gb will help keep the device more current as different Android versions are developed. It is also beneficial when dealing with many apps opening one after another multitasking and such. IF you are a power user it is beneficial. To most it's the same as 1gb
Hope I've helped.

elracing21 said:
1) The phone has been out for a month so development is merely getting started. It will pick up as time goes by and we will see major roms like cyanogen andothers here (CM9 already and cm10 preview available). Many custom made kernels out there that are amazing.
2) Haven't head of screen bleeding on this device and mine (2 days old) has none. Be warned if you have not heard about the black splotches look into it. When screen is on and completely black you may notice some black splotches around the screen (you wont notice on day to day use unless you try to look. Every device varies you might get one with minimal blotches. This is a side effect of the AMOLED.
3) I believe stock cpu was set at 1.4ghz and I'm not sure what min was. Currently have mine overclocked to 1.89ghz max and 385mhz min.I camefrom the HTC one S and they have the same cpu. The snapdragon S4 is a powerhouse bro you will love the fluidity and performance here,
4) I first compared my HTC One S HDLED screen to my friends samsung blaze and I fell in love with the AMOLED screen. It is just has more POP and vibrant colors. You will love it, idk how anyone can dislike this screen it is beautiful and blasphemy to those who use it on anything lower than max brightness.
5) Only time I have experienced lag has been when messing with the CPU clock and when my min profiles are set on setcput to anything lower than 1ghz
6) As far as I know the IMEI loss has been happening when flashing recoveries or flashing cyanogen using a recovery other than CWM. I Rooted and flashed CWM with no problem. Still havent flashed CM9 until it is more "complete" and I make sure the IMEI issue is not ROM flashing related. (again i have been browsing the forums for only 2 days so im still learning the issues here)
7) I live in the Bronx and work in Manhattan. The data speeds in my apartment suck compared to my HTC One S. I was getting 2-5mbps down and up on it but on the S3 I am rarely pulling past 1mbps down and up. This doesn't matter to me as I have wifi on 24/7 at home. At work (85th and Amsterdam I pull an amazing 15-20mbps down and 3-5mbps up in that area. I go giddy when doing speed tests at work.
8) No device is future proof but the 2gb will help keep the device more current as different Android versions are developed. It is also beneficial when dealing with many apps opening one after another multitasking and such. IF you are a power user it is beneficial. To most it's the same as 1gb
Hope I've helped.
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Thanks for answering all of my questions. From all of the responses it sounds like I will be able to get the S3 without having to worry anymore. However I hope tmobile increases the 4G speeds in the bronx to match those of manhattan at least. :fingers-crossed:

Ace42 said:
Thanks for answering all of my questions. From all of the responses it sounds like I will be able to get the S3 without having to worry anymore. However I hope tmobile increases the 4G speeds in the bronx to match those of manhattan at least. :fingers-crossed:
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You are welcome bro. Don't get me wrong most of the Bronx does have terrible speed in comparison to Manhattan but there are a few areas where the speeds have surprised me. Like a train stop away from here I get great speeds. 10mbps on avg.
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the only problem i had and it happened with 3 from tmobile was the phone was getting very warm. so i got the note from t mobile and the performance difference is very noticable. the s3 is a power house fast internet load speeds smooth and the screen compared to the already beautiful screen on the note is sharper and brighter. I had the black crush issue with the note blacks were horrid so i received another s3 today i have them both in front of me and love em both but am gonna stick with the s3 because of the performance and the screen. If the new note has the inners of the s3 and a 5.3-5.5 inch screen the s3 will be history i love the size of the note..what im trying to say i would not buy a phone with anything less then the s4 snapdragon in .Plus if you want to upgrade the s3 will be desirable and hold its value for a while so you could sell in the future for the next best thing..