[Q] Rooting with z4root to delete bloatware - Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi guys. I know the Desire (UK, Orange) doesn't support permanent root with z4root as it is NAND locked, but some say it does support temporary root - when you reboot, you lose root. Does anyone have any info or experience on this?
All I would like to do is delete the Orange bloatware apps. But if I do this, will it cause problems with the next OTA update?

You can use VISIONary for temp root and apparently it works well for what you want to do. I've never used it though

Thanks. Will it screw up the OTAs if I remove the bloatware?

I've no idea, possibly

I tried visionary yesterday and it did give me root, however when i tried to uninstall bloatware it crashed and rebooted my phone
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vengeance1990 said:
I tried visionary yesterday and it did give me root, however when i tried to uninstall bloatware it crashed and rebooted my phone
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Did you manage to get it to work?

No i didnt actually, however i have a feeling that its being blocked by something on the phone because i rooted with unrevoked today and it did exactly the same thing,
i had root i could install root manager and titanium back up however busybox wouldnt install and crashed and restarted my phone when i tried
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Just lost root randomly...

So I just noticed that I have lost root on my phone. Im running OMJ's 2.2 rom and have been rooted since I got the phone. I now cannot access and of my apps that require root and this has just happened today. Anyone know how to resolve this or know why this happened?
Try flashing superuser 2.1 I had that problem with the first DC beta. I'm on my phone so I can't upload it at the moment but its in the dev forum somewhere.
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I have superuser on my phone and can't find a superuser in the market. My market now shows apps that were blocked previously. Did HTC or sprint force an update on me without consent?

[Q] Can I root without factory reset?

Yes, I know...the answers are all in the forum. But those threads are pages and pages and pages and I just need someone to tell me if I'm on the right track.
Soon I'm going to have to have my Evo replaced because the USB port is loose and I assume it is eventually going to break completely. I would like to...
1 - root
2 - titanium backup
3 - factory reset
4 - get new phone
5 - root
6 - restore
My goal is to switch phones and not have to reinstall everything and redo all my settings. Am I on the right track?
I planned to use the 3-click root app that I found here on the forums, btw.
You can root without a reset and losing your data. I was able to use unrevoked 3.32. In my case I wanted to root but not flash a new ROM so I did not need or want to clear my data in the process.
I'm confused...Unrevoked's web site says it doesn't work on stock Froyo. Does that mean my Sprint Evo? Or do they mean if you have literally a stock Froyo, i.e. no HTC Sense?
Use z4root.
Download the app from the xda thread, it is not in the market. click temporary root. you will have a limited root access until next reboot. Use titanium backup. reboot phone, uninstall z4root. make sure to remove all files from SD card before bringing the phone to the sprint store.
I used the info here:
http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/unrevoked3
If you have a stock Sprint Evo this should work for you. I have not tried it on an Evo running the latest OTA update but it should work. My Evo was a HW 0003 with Build 3.30.651.3 and HBOOT 2.02 and it worked fine. I was able to root and then install Titanium Backup to backup all of my data. I also made a Nandroid backup of the entire ROM before I did any experimenting. I still have not flashed a new ROM although I have experimented with some kernels. I still have my data on my phone at it exited before I rooted.
I would think you should be able to root, backup your data, and restore that data to another phone.
I also agree that z4root would work for you if you just want to do a backup of your data. This would save you from the trouble of unrooting before your exchange your phone.
What makes the z4root temporary?
z4root achieves root access in a way that allows you do things that require root access without making any permanent changes to your phone. Once you will have root access until you reboot. This would allow you to install Titanium Backup (and busybox) and get a backup. You could then uninstall busybox, Titanium, and z4root and cleanup before the exchange.
m20120 said:
z4root achieves root access in a way that allows you do things that require root access without making any permanent changes to your phone. Once you will have root access until you reboot. This would allow you to install Titanium Backup (and busybox) and get a backup. You could then uninstall busybox, Titanium, and z4root and cleanup before the exchange.
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awesome. thanks to everyone for the quick answers.
ok so one last question. can I remove Sprint bloatware while it's temporarily rooted with z4root?
I'm pretty sure that you can not. And also sprint would know you were f-ing with the phone if all the bloat was missing.
Yes. You should be able to remove preinstalled applications while you have temporary root. You can also use Titanium for that. This is the only mod that I have done to my stock Evo after rooting. Obvously you would only want to do that the the new phone.
I used Root Explorer and simply moved the unwanted apps to my sdcard so I could restore them later if I wanted them back or if I caused a problem by removing an app.
I did not used z4root but I understand that you can do anything with temporary root access that you would normally do with permnanant root except flash custom roms, recoveries and kernels. If you want to remain stock or just remove bloat this is a good way to go. You should even be able to run apps like Wireless Tether, etc tis way... you just have to get root again each time you reboot.
Fazulka said:
I'm pretty sure that you can not. And also sprint would know you were f-ing with the phone if all the bloat was missing.
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well that was for when I get the new phone. but thanks.
Hmmm... I just tried z4root my the wife's Evo (a bit newer than mine with the latest OTA) and it did not work. It told me that I had temp root but no program was able to get root access. Might have to do some more research.
m20120 said:
Hmmm... I just tried z4root my the wife's Evo (a bit newer than mine with the latest OTA) and it did not work. It told me that I had temp root but no program was able to get root access. Might have to do some more research.
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Yes I just had the same problem. Installed z4root, ran it, it went through the steps in about 30 seconds, said I was temporarily rooted...but Titanium Backup says it can't get root priveleges.
Rebooted, tried z4root again...same result.
I uninstalled z4root, installed busybox, rebooted, installed z4root...still doesn't work. it says it works, but Titanium Backup and busybox both say it's not rooted.
actually busybox is not installed. it won't install without root privileges. seems like a catch 22 if you have to root to install something that is required in order to root in the first place.

[Q] Optimus s unrooted

I have the Optimus S, a few days ago there was an update to the phone that seemed to overwrite many files, as well as made changes.
It also unrooted the phone in the progress.
So when I went to re-root the phone using Z4root it hangs or fails.
Tried installing and re-installing and still fails.
When booting app Z4root it says temp root, perm root and unroot options.
Also mentions that device already has SU binary.
Any ideas on a fix for this.
Thanks for any help.
Just something that I noticed.
Super user is still installed on phone, but thinking maybe an uninstall of that and reroot may work.
Not really sure.
Also I am not sure how to uninstall it.
Go under apps and remove from there. Should let you. Also most updates I've had on my multiple android phones took root off or in the case of my current Galaxy S Vibrant it soft bricked my phone. Always good to take off root before updating as a precaution but that's up to you. Try removing then reapplying one click root and if that doesn't work you can maybe find a one click root from PC or get the update.zip file for root and install manually on phone like I did for galaxy. Can Google it. Just my 2 cents on the matter.
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Its listed under apps but uninstall is unavailable, only thing that is available is clear data.
I uninstalled Z4root from phone and reinstalled VIA SD card , because its off the android market. and no luck, gives me a option to temp root, perm root, and unroot. Every time it looks for the exploit it lags out .
Did this before posting here,
havent tried trying a different root option, but my guess is if they patched the exploit it just simply will not work atm.
Yeah I read last galaxy s vibrant T-Mobile 2.2 update gave ppl probs with the z4 app as well. Ill try looking up alternative method for optimus s and if I find something before sleep I will post it.
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I know that the Galaxy S and the Optimus seem to end up with same problems a lot, from what I have searched for , and seen with rooting and modifying.
So if you come across anything for the Galaxy it will probably work with the Optimus.
I will keep searching as well, and post if I find anything.
Search these boards for superoneclick says it works on basically all froyo phones. Need windows pc with. Net framework installed. Instructions were all in the thread tho. Xda forum app wouldn't let me post link to thread or I dunno how in app. Try that and let me know.
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Tried superoneclick and it failed, everything looked good on install but when going back to phone , and trying Titanium backup. it says could not get root privileges.
Did Rageagainstthecage exploit.
One thing I notice is superuser cannot uninstall, thought maybe redoing that may do the trick. Uninstall is greyed out on app listing
Was gonna say look up terminal adb commands but you need su. Id just odin flash it stock or rom it personally but that's your call.
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Seems as though the problem is the last update actually "fixed" so it unroots the Optimus, no way to re-root atm.
Waiting now, I am sure someone will find a way to re-root.
VC has to be downgraded to V8 then upgraded to V9 then upgraded to the VC using LG's software update (NOT the OTA variant). There are details here:
http://forum.androidcentral.com/lg-...-guide-rooting-software-version-ls670zvc.html
Just something that I noticed.
hey i just figured it out that when we use apps like z4root to root mobiles n then something happens in middle or afterwards(like updates) when phone is rooted
It kills n overwrite those rooted files ... now those files are left in memory n u can not get rid of it until u format ur cell phone

[Q] Titanium Backup says no root

So I unlocked, rooted and flashed 4.0.4 last night (for the first time) and I installed Titanium Backup, but it says that it doesnt have root access, is it possible that I could have unlocked and flashed without rooting properly? I have the SuperUser app installed but no apps show in the list....
dsuppa said:
So I unlocked, rooted and flashed 4.0.4 last night (for the first time) and I installed Titanium Backup, but it says that it doesnt have root access, is it possible that I could have unlocked and flashed without rooting properly? I have the SuperUser app installed but no apps show in the list....
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YOU LOST ROOT WHEN YOU WENT UP TO IT
HAPPENED TO ME TOO. I WAS FLUSTERED FOR A FEW DAYS BECAUSE MY SWISS ARMY KNIFE TOOL WASNT READY FOR RE ROOTING 4.0.4
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1400871
THATLL HELP YOU QUICKLY GET ROOT BACK FOR 4.0.4 IN UNDER 5 MINS...
Try force stopping TiBU and then open it again; sometimes it gets confused.
thanks i'll have to give that a try when I get home, this isnt what I originally used to root/unlock is that ok? I used this one
Sorry for the caps. Left a website where I always post with em on
But easiest way to know you lost root is to try and update superuser. If it says failed...
mudferret said:
Try force stopping TiBU and then open it again; sometimes it gets confused.
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Nope, seems I no longer have root access, I downloaded root checker from the app store and it says no root access on the phone.
dsuppa said:
Nope, seems I no longer have root access, I downloaded root checker from the app store and it says no root access on the phone.
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Every OTA update disables root access. You need to re-root after every OTA update...

[Q] Root HTC one m8 with android 5.0.1

Apparently my phone has some bugs after rooting now, so I'd like to get rid of it!
I used Redpoint73's way of rooting. Can somebody please help me?!
Hey guys!
After a few years of iphone, i'm back to HTC again! Now I would like to root my M8, but to be honest, I don't really get it.
I see so many different options and ways to do this. The only thing I want is to have root access, I don't want a custon rom.
Who can help me with this and tell me how to do this.
Cheers& many thanks!
1) Unlock the bootloader via HTCDev.com
2) Install custom recovery
3) Download latest (v2.46) SuperSU zip and flash in recovery
There are a few different options to root once you do steps 1 and 2, but what I suggest above is the easiest IMO.
AFAIK, steps 1 and 2 above are mandatory on Lollipop. Previously, there was the option to (using sunshine s-off apk) temp root, s-off, and unlock the bootloader (and therefore bypass HTCDev.com). But I think the temp root was since patched by HTC, and you need to now root before sunshine.
Thank you very much! This is what I needed!
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Can you please also tell me how to unroot?
Somehow my phone is acting up strange since I rooted it.
I see in supersu the option to unroot completely, does that work?
Thanks:good:
Rooting should not effect your device in any negative way. If you're having issues, it's likely something you did after rooting.
Well, the battery drained quite a bit. I deleted some rooted apps and that problem seems solved. But still my phone is acting strange. And now I also have some line on my screen. That has nothing to do with the root, but I want to send back my phone. So can you please tell me how to unroot my HTC?
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