[Q] Can I root without factory reset? - EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Yes, I know...the answers are all in the forum. But those threads are pages and pages and pages and I just need someone to tell me if I'm on the right track.
Soon I'm going to have to have my Evo replaced because the USB port is loose and I assume it is eventually going to break completely. I would like to...
1 - root
2 - titanium backup
3 - factory reset
4 - get new phone
5 - root
6 - restore
My goal is to switch phones and not have to reinstall everything and redo all my settings. Am I on the right track?
I planned to use the 3-click root app that I found here on the forums, btw.

You can root without a reset and losing your data. I was able to use unrevoked 3.32. In my case I wanted to root but not flash a new ROM so I did not need or want to clear my data in the process.

I'm confused...Unrevoked's web site says it doesn't work on stock Froyo. Does that mean my Sprint Evo? Or do they mean if you have literally a stock Froyo, i.e. no HTC Sense?

Use z4root.
Download the app from the xda thread, it is not in the market. click temporary root. you will have a limited root access until next reboot. Use titanium backup. reboot phone, uninstall z4root. make sure to remove all files from SD card before bringing the phone to the sprint store.

I used the info here:
http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/unrevoked3
If you have a stock Sprint Evo this should work for you. I have not tried it on an Evo running the latest OTA update but it should work. My Evo was a HW 0003 with Build 3.30.651.3 and HBOOT 2.02 and it worked fine. I was able to root and then install Titanium Backup to backup all of my data. I also made a Nandroid backup of the entire ROM before I did any experimenting. I still have not flashed a new ROM although I have experimented with some kernels. I still have my data on my phone at it exited before I rooted.
I would think you should be able to root, backup your data, and restore that data to another phone.

I also agree that z4root would work for you if you just want to do a backup of your data. This would save you from the trouble of unrooting before your exchange your phone.

What makes the z4root temporary?

z4root achieves root access in a way that allows you do things that require root access without making any permanent changes to your phone. Once you will have root access until you reboot. This would allow you to install Titanium Backup (and busybox) and get a backup. You could then uninstall busybox, Titanium, and z4root and cleanup before the exchange.

m20120 said:
z4root achieves root access in a way that allows you do things that require root access without making any permanent changes to your phone. Once you will have root access until you reboot. This would allow you to install Titanium Backup (and busybox) and get a backup. You could then uninstall busybox, Titanium, and z4root and cleanup before the exchange.
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awesome. thanks to everyone for the quick answers.
ok so one last question. can I remove Sprint bloatware while it's temporarily rooted with z4root?

I'm pretty sure that you can not. And also sprint would know you were f-ing with the phone if all the bloat was missing.

Yes. You should be able to remove preinstalled applications while you have temporary root. You can also use Titanium for that. This is the only mod that I have done to my stock Evo after rooting. Obvously you would only want to do that the the new phone.
I used Root Explorer and simply moved the unwanted apps to my sdcard so I could restore them later if I wanted them back or if I caused a problem by removing an app.
I did not used z4root but I understand that you can do anything with temporary root access that you would normally do with permnanant root except flash custom roms, recoveries and kernels. If you want to remain stock or just remove bloat this is a good way to go. You should even be able to run apps like Wireless Tether, etc tis way... you just have to get root again each time you reboot.

Fazulka said:
I'm pretty sure that you can not. And also sprint would know you were f-ing with the phone if all the bloat was missing.
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well that was for when I get the new phone. but thanks.

Hmmm... I just tried z4root my the wife's Evo (a bit newer than mine with the latest OTA) and it did not work. It told me that I had temp root but no program was able to get root access. Might have to do some more research.

m20120 said:
Hmmm... I just tried z4root my the wife's Evo (a bit newer than mine with the latest OTA) and it did not work. It told me that I had temp root but no program was able to get root access. Might have to do some more research.
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Yes I just had the same problem. Installed z4root, ran it, it went through the steps in about 30 seconds, said I was temporarily rooted...but Titanium Backup says it can't get root priveleges.
Rebooted, tried z4root again...same result.

I uninstalled z4root, installed busybox, rebooted, installed z4root...still doesn't work. it says it works, but Titanium Backup and busybox both say it's not rooted.

actually busybox is not installed. it won't install without root privileges. seems like a catch 22 if you have to root to install something that is required in order to root in the first place.

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Rooting? useful? possible to unroot?

-I'm totally new to this. I have this handset i want to root after reading all the advantages (custom roms, updates, overclocking). Is there an official guide here on xda to root? some info would be real helpful !
-Has anyone rooted their defy and enjoying it?
-also i want to know how i can fully restore my phone back if something happens with my phone to make it unrooted?
thx
Definitely possible; I used Z4Root. (The older version I used didn't have an Unroot option, but version 1.3 apparently does.) Just install the app, run it, tap Root, and it's done in seconds. It's nice not having Telenav and all those music downloading apps cluttering up the app drawer--for me, anyway, since I don't use them.
z4root is definitely the way to go if you're new, but there are guides on doing this manually.
To fully restore the phone you will need to install the custom recovery before making changes (other than root), booting with recovery and performing a nand backup. Just select the backup/restore option.
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[Q] Root Question

If i Root my phone will i lose all my install apps and their settings?
No, attaining root will not do that.
What about downgrading from 1.72 ?
That part, yes. You will lose everything.
damn....
Thanks for the quick replies btw
Is there a way to backup all my apps/settings?
& How easy it is to put my phone back to stock/unrooted?
Once you have root you can use Titanium Backup to backup apps & their settings, then restore these later. Titanium backup needs root.
To return to a HTC Virgin state, stock & unrooted, your best bet is to use an official HTC RUU (ROM Update Utility). Just ensure you use the correct one.
Thanks again.
The only problem is i've got to downgrade before i get root.
So there's no way i can back everything up without root?
There may be ways and apps that can do this, I just don't know.
If you search the market with the term "backup" you may find apps that do not require root.
Seems like your stuck in a catch 22.
I did the downgrade method, and used mybackup for backup. It restored all of my contact informasion and almost all of my programs. Remember that android market will download all of your programs after a reinstall. If you use a htc sync account, you will get your wlan passwords too.

[Q] Titanium Backup says no root

So I unlocked, rooted and flashed 4.0.4 last night (for the first time) and I installed Titanium Backup, but it says that it doesnt have root access, is it possible that I could have unlocked and flashed without rooting properly? I have the SuperUser app installed but no apps show in the list....
dsuppa said:
So I unlocked, rooted and flashed 4.0.4 last night (for the first time) and I installed Titanium Backup, but it says that it doesnt have root access, is it possible that I could have unlocked and flashed without rooting properly? I have the SuperUser app installed but no apps show in the list....
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YOU LOST ROOT WHEN YOU WENT UP TO IT
HAPPENED TO ME TOO. I WAS FLUSTERED FOR A FEW DAYS BECAUSE MY SWISS ARMY KNIFE TOOL WASNT READY FOR RE ROOTING 4.0.4
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1400871
THATLL HELP YOU QUICKLY GET ROOT BACK FOR 4.0.4 IN UNDER 5 MINS...
Try force stopping TiBU and then open it again; sometimes it gets confused.
thanks i'll have to give that a try when I get home, this isnt what I originally used to root/unlock is that ok? I used this one
Sorry for the caps. Left a website where I always post with em on
But easiest way to know you lost root is to try and update superuser. If it says failed...
mudferret said:
Try force stopping TiBU and then open it again; sometimes it gets confused.
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Nope, seems I no longer have root access, I downloaded root checker from the app store and it says no root access on the phone.
dsuppa said:
Nope, seems I no longer have root access, I downloaded root checker from the app store and it says no root access on the phone.
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Every OTA update disables root access. You need to re-root after every OTA update...

Will this root method work?

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I see that it works on the international version, however will it cause problems with my tmobile note 2?
Also, rooting is supposed to delete all of your apps?? Is there a way to get them back besides paying for titanium back up?
Another question I have is if another software update comes out, will I have to re root or how does that work? thanks :good:
Note_2 said:
/watch?list=UUA2XWPjQBJVScn7wQjeqMqA&feature=player_embedded&v=NFHZ535L7is
I see that it works on the international version, however will it cause problems with my tmobile note 2?
Also, rooting is supposed to delete all of your apps?? Is there a way to get them back besides paying for titanium back up?
Another question I have is if another software update comes out, will I have to re root or how does that work? thanks :good:
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Just use the toolkit here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957720 to root.
Rooting won't delete your apps... flashing ROM's will, then you can use TB to get them back.
You could unroot to get OTA update, then re-root... only takes a few minutes.
keeping apps and rooting
kozmo21 said:
Just use the toolkit here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957720 to root.
Rooting won't delete your apps... flashing ROM's will, then you can use TB to get them back.
You could unroot to get OTA update, then re-root... only takes a few minutes.
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The toolkit can also BACKUP YOUR APPS WITHOUT ROOT!!!! i've used it for backing up my apps a million times, especially for a facotry reset and some of those games i cant get my progress back. so i found this toolbox, and it backs the apps up without root perfectly, even if you flash to a different rom!

how to HTC Desire 526 temp root without pc

*Update*
Make sure you go into Settings/App Manager and Disable all Verizons App except the Mobile login and My Verizon Mobile app.
Easy way to do is type in the search for vzw,disable all of vzw apps. Then search for Verizon and disable all of Verizons related app except the two mentioned.Verizons bloatware seem to be the problem that prevents us to get tempt root.
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1.Download KingRoot app and install it
2.Run the app, it will show theres no root method availabe,still try to root it anyways.
3. As soon as the rooting starts(percentage page going up) hit the home key so the app will run in the background.eek:therwise rooting will not work.
4.Wait for 2 minutes then click on the KingApp again, it might take a few tries and voila! Temp root.:laugh:
*Note*
1.make sure you have usb debugging enabled in Developer Option:good:
2.Bootloader is still locked so you will lose your root after any reboot.Sunshine is not sucessful in unlocking it rightnow.Maybe if we have a boot.img thats already unlocked we can flash it with Flashify app.:crying:
3. All root app works great, just cant modify any system files cause of temp root.
Htc 526 root?!?
tonismo said:
1.Download KingRoot app and install it
2.Run the app, it will show theres no root method availabe,still try to root it anyways.
3. As soon as the rooting starts(percentage page going up) hit the home key so the app will run in the background.eek:therwise rooting will not work.
4.Wait for 2 minutes then click on the KingApp again, it might take a few tries and voila! Temp root.:laugh:
*Note*
1.make sure you have usb debugging enabled in Developer Option:good:
2.Bootloader is still locked so you will lose your root after any reboot.Sunshine is not sucessful in unlocking it rightnow.Maybe if we have a boot.img thats already unlocked we can flash it with Flashify app.:crying:
3. All root app works great, just cant modify any system files cause of temp root.
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Okay so the temp root can do what? Will root worthy apps detect the root and work up until a reboot??? if that's the case then the painfully annoying time spent to "re-temp root" the phone will be enough for me until KingRoot finds a way to successfully root the phone. :good:
If you get me temp root I can get perm root.
This temp root method isn't working for me
You have to keep doing it a few time.Im doing this even with the StageFright update. Once you get it the first time, everytime after that will work.It seems like Kingroot remember its exploit. Temp root will let you do things like running GameGuardian to cheat android games. Basically thats all I use tempt root for.
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Remember to run Kingroot rooting process in the backgroun only. Otherwise it will not work. As soon as you hit the root method, hit the homekey. Go use your phone as normal and then come back to the app,voila tempt root. It will ask you to fix the root binaries ,which means it works.
I also have full root but resets on reboot...
I'm not 100% sure but if the root resets after reboot then it's a temp root right?
Yeah. It's annoying.. I'd love to mod a little but it's been years since I dabbled. Full root would be fantastic. I've been looking for a solid solution that preferably doesn't require any help from a PC..
Hey Can u do and update on it because it's one work now in 2018
tonismo said:
*Update*
Make sure you go into Settings/App Manager and Disable all Verizons App except the Mobile login and My Verizon Mobile app.
Easy way to do is type in the search for vzw,disable all of vzw apps. Then search for Verizon and disable all of Verizons related app except the two mentioned.Verizons bloatware seem to be the problem that prevents us to get tempt root.
****
1.Download KingRoot app and install it
2.Run the app, it will show theres no root method availabe,still try to root it anyways.
3. As soon as the rooting starts(percentage page going up) hit the home key so the app will run in the background.eek:therwise rooting will not work.
4.Wait for 2 minutes then click on the KingApp again, it might take a few tries and voila! Temp root.:laugh:
*Note*
1.make sure you have usb debugging enabled in Developer Option:good:
2.Bootloader is still locked so you will lose your root after any reboot.Sunshine is not sucessful in unlocking it rightnow.Maybe if we have a boot.img thats already unlocked we can flash it with Flashify app.:crying:
3. All root app works great, just cant modify any system files cause of temp root.
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Hey! actually i found that kingroot 4.8.2 works but i only got it to work once, when you did this what version of kingroot did you use?
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