[Q] Root Question - Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

If i Root my phone will i lose all my install apps and their settings?

No, attaining root will not do that.

What about downgrading from 1.72 ?

That part, yes. You will lose everything.

damn....
Thanks for the quick replies btw
Is there a way to backup all my apps/settings?
& How easy it is to put my phone back to stock/unrooted?

Once you have root you can use Titanium Backup to backup apps & their settings, then restore these later. Titanium backup needs root.
To return to a HTC Virgin state, stock & unrooted, your best bet is to use an official HTC RUU (ROM Update Utility). Just ensure you use the correct one.

Thanks again.
The only problem is i've got to downgrade before i get root.
So there's no way i can back everything up without root?

There may be ways and apps that can do this, I just don't know.
If you search the market with the term "backup" you may find apps that do not require root.
Seems like your stuck in a catch 22.

I did the downgrade method, and used mybackup for backup. It restored all of my contact informasion and almost all of my programs. Remember that android market will download all of your programs after a reinstall. If you use a htc sync account, you will get your wlan passwords too.

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Rooting? useful? possible to unroot?

-I'm totally new to this. I have this handset i want to root after reading all the advantages (custom roms, updates, overclocking). Is there an official guide here on xda to root? some info would be real helpful !
-Has anyone rooted their defy and enjoying it?
-also i want to know how i can fully restore my phone back if something happens with my phone to make it unrooted?
thx
Definitely possible; I used Z4Root. (The older version I used didn't have an Unroot option, but version 1.3 apparently does.) Just install the app, run it, tap Root, and it's done in seconds. It's nice not having Telenav and all those music downloading apps cluttering up the app drawer--for me, anyway, since I don't use them.
z4root is definitely the way to go if you're new, but there are guides on doing this manually.
To fully restore the phone you will need to install the custom recovery before making changes (other than root), booting with recovery and performing a nand backup. Just select the backup/restore option.
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[Q] Can I root without factory reset?

Yes, I know...the answers are all in the forum. But those threads are pages and pages and pages and I just need someone to tell me if I'm on the right track.
Soon I'm going to have to have my Evo replaced because the USB port is loose and I assume it is eventually going to break completely. I would like to...
1 - root
2 - titanium backup
3 - factory reset
4 - get new phone
5 - root
6 - restore
My goal is to switch phones and not have to reinstall everything and redo all my settings. Am I on the right track?
I planned to use the 3-click root app that I found here on the forums, btw.
You can root without a reset and losing your data. I was able to use unrevoked 3.32. In my case I wanted to root but not flash a new ROM so I did not need or want to clear my data in the process.
I'm confused...Unrevoked's web site says it doesn't work on stock Froyo. Does that mean my Sprint Evo? Or do they mean if you have literally a stock Froyo, i.e. no HTC Sense?
Use z4root.
Download the app from the xda thread, it is not in the market. click temporary root. you will have a limited root access until next reboot. Use titanium backup. reboot phone, uninstall z4root. make sure to remove all files from SD card before bringing the phone to the sprint store.
I used the info here:
http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/unrevoked3
If you have a stock Sprint Evo this should work for you. I have not tried it on an Evo running the latest OTA update but it should work. My Evo was a HW 0003 with Build 3.30.651.3 and HBOOT 2.02 and it worked fine. I was able to root and then install Titanium Backup to backup all of my data. I also made a Nandroid backup of the entire ROM before I did any experimenting. I still have not flashed a new ROM although I have experimented with some kernels. I still have my data on my phone at it exited before I rooted.
I would think you should be able to root, backup your data, and restore that data to another phone.
I also agree that z4root would work for you if you just want to do a backup of your data. This would save you from the trouble of unrooting before your exchange your phone.
What makes the z4root temporary?
z4root achieves root access in a way that allows you do things that require root access without making any permanent changes to your phone. Once you will have root access until you reboot. This would allow you to install Titanium Backup (and busybox) and get a backup. You could then uninstall busybox, Titanium, and z4root and cleanup before the exchange.
m20120 said:
z4root achieves root access in a way that allows you do things that require root access without making any permanent changes to your phone. Once you will have root access until you reboot. This would allow you to install Titanium Backup (and busybox) and get a backup. You could then uninstall busybox, Titanium, and z4root and cleanup before the exchange.
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awesome. thanks to everyone for the quick answers.
ok so one last question. can I remove Sprint bloatware while it's temporarily rooted with z4root?
I'm pretty sure that you can not. And also sprint would know you were f-ing with the phone if all the bloat was missing.
Yes. You should be able to remove preinstalled applications while you have temporary root. You can also use Titanium for that. This is the only mod that I have done to my stock Evo after rooting. Obvously you would only want to do that the the new phone.
I used Root Explorer and simply moved the unwanted apps to my sdcard so I could restore them later if I wanted them back or if I caused a problem by removing an app.
I did not used z4root but I understand that you can do anything with temporary root access that you would normally do with permnanant root except flash custom roms, recoveries and kernels. If you want to remain stock or just remove bloat this is a good way to go. You should even be able to run apps like Wireless Tether, etc tis way... you just have to get root again each time you reboot.
Fazulka said:
I'm pretty sure that you can not. And also sprint would know you were f-ing with the phone if all the bloat was missing.
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well that was for when I get the new phone. but thanks.
Hmmm... I just tried z4root my the wife's Evo (a bit newer than mine with the latest OTA) and it did not work. It told me that I had temp root but no program was able to get root access. Might have to do some more research.
m20120 said:
Hmmm... I just tried z4root my the wife's Evo (a bit newer than mine with the latest OTA) and it did not work. It told me that I had temp root but no program was able to get root access. Might have to do some more research.
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Yes I just had the same problem. Installed z4root, ran it, it went through the steps in about 30 seconds, said I was temporarily rooted...but Titanium Backup says it can't get root priveleges.
Rebooted, tried z4root again...same result.
I uninstalled z4root, installed busybox, rebooted, installed z4root...still doesn't work. it says it works, but Titanium Backup and busybox both say it's not rooted.
actually busybox is not installed. it won't install without root privileges. seems like a catch 22 if you have to root to install something that is required in order to root in the first place.

[Q]Rooting question and impacts

So, I am thinking about rooting my R800at (2.3.3) using the ZergRush method mentioned in the Super Compilation thread using DoomLord's one click method. One question that came to mind that I couldn't find was will this erase/wipe apps and settings or is merely expoiting some hole to give me su priveledges?
Once rooted, my main goal was to remove apps and free up memory. Using something like Titanium Backup Pro, can I remove an app, and then restore it (through the same app) at a later time with no loss of data (and have it relinked to the market)? Also, if I wind up installing another ROM (whether custom or offical udpate), can I still restore those apps with no loss of data?
Thanks!
You won't lose anything by rooting
You'll be able to do exactly what you described with Titanium providing you make a backup of the apps beforehand
Thanks for the response. One more thing...
If I update to ICS (when it comes out) and I have backed up an app (through Titanium) when it was on Gingerbread, will I encounter any issues? Assuming that the app is compatible with ICS. Though, I guess it might re-link to the market and work after any updates.
Also, is there a detailed explanation of how DoomLord's one-click root works? I would like to know more about the technical side of the process, though I do appreciate the "it just works" factor with one click.
If the app if ICS compatible it will be fine.
I'm not sure how the actual exploit works, if you google Zergrush you might be able to find out
On a sorta related note, I take it if I unlock the bootloader (through one of the paid services that are mentioned on this site), the method used will wipe out everything on my phone during the process, right?

[Q] Temp-root, root, consfused... i just want to run some app, please help!

Hey there,
I have read many topics, guides and post about rooting but more i read more confused i get, so i write here in order to get some assist from fellow desire Z owners.
Situation looks like this:
I have Desire Z with Android 2.3.3 and what i read till now, to root this OS the only possibility is to downgrade it in first place, but the downgrade will wipe out current data (or perhaps i'm wrong here?), which i want to avoid.
Then again i want to root my phone to use some app that requires it, and uninstall some unnecessary components, i'm not interested in flashing custom roms right now, so perhaps there is some way to grant such privileges via temp root without downgrading?
Any assistance will be appreciated.
You will need to downgrade to root, which will wipe all your data.
Here is the best guide
The downgrade guide does have a (very) temporary root, which will allow you to backup your apps and data. It would also allow whatever app you need to run, but not for very long, the system becomes unstable if you leave it exploited.
-Nipqer
Nipqer said:
You will need to downgrade to root, which will wipe all your data.
Here is the best guide
The downgrade guide does have a (very) temporary root, which will allow you to backup your apps and data. It would also allow whatever app you need to run, but not for very long, the system becomes unstable if you leave it exploited.
-Nipqer
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Ok, understand so follow-up questions:
1. let's say i will do anything till temp-root then do what i want, and then is there a way to close exploit?
2. Or if i will go on, do the full rom backup for example using titanium backup and then restore it after downgrade would it bring back my Andro to 2.3.3 or stay at Froyo?
Plomiwn said:
Ok, understand so follow-up questions:
1. let's say i will do anything till temp-root then do what i want, and then is there a way to close exploit?
2. Or if i will go on, do the full rom backup for example using titanium backup and then restore it after downgrade would it bring back my Andro to 2.3.3 or stay at Froyo?
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ad 1. When having temp root you are limited with the things you can do and sometimes the phone does not behave as expected. Temp root does not mean S-OFF, so system partition might not be writeable.
You close the exploit be doing a full reboot of the phone.
ad 2. After downgrade and gaining S-OFF you can install every ROM that is available for your phone. There is a lot of Android 2.3.3 ROMs out there.
VirtuousRom provides some nice Sense ROMS.
The best known "Sense-less" ROM is CyanogenMod 7.1 / 7.2. CyanogenMod 9 is still tested and should soon be available.
Best regards,
Catherall
catherall said:
ad 1. When having temp root you are limited with the things you can do and sometimes the phone does not behave as expected. Temp root does not mean S-OFF, so system partition might not be writeable.
You close the exploit be doing a full reboot of the phone.
ad 2. After downgrade and gaining S-OFF you can install every ROM that is available for your phone. There is a lot of Android 2.3.3 ROMs out there.
VirtuousRom provides some nice Sense ROMS.
The best known "Sense-less" ROM is CyanogenMod 7.1 / 7.2. CyanogenMod 9 is still tested and should soon be available.
Best regards,
Catherall
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Thank you guys for the answers, i did some reading about rooting, adb tutorials, even went through first part of downgrade to get temp-root but at this point i have other questions:
1. I tried to use Titanium Backup to backup my apps, but it don't see them, i searched for solution and it seems that it want's me to update SuperUser.apk but after i do TB dosen't see root anymore, and SuperUser tells that busybox version is wrong, is there any solution to fix it?
2. Is there a reverse guide for unroot and S-ON? i found some using RAGE but i don't know if it would work if i use guide for root?
3. Hboot, is this recommended as i read that this part is where is highest risk of brick?
4. Just for to satisify my curiousity, what will happen if after downgrade i would install OTA Update?
1. Titanium not seeing your apps is weird. Maybe if you get the new SuperUser apk and use that instead of the supplied one when getting temp-root will help (and new su binary)
2. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1442988 Revert to stock guide
3. Hboot is recommended. Yes it is (technically) risky, but I have never seen it fail, and so long as you aren't a complete idiot, you can't go wrong.
4. You'll need to redowngrade, no big deal
-Nipqer
Nipqer said:
1. Titanium not seeing your apps is weird. Maybe if you get the new SuperUser apk and use that instead of the supplied one when getting temp-root will help (and new su binary)
2. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1442988 Revert to stock guide
3. Hboot is recommended. Yes it is (technically) risky, but I have never seen it fail, and so long as you aren't a complete idiot, you can't go wrong.
4. You'll need to redowngrade, no big deal
-Nipqer
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AD. 1 - Solved it. Solution posted here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24685631&postcount=504

Will this root method work?

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I see that it works on the international version, however will it cause problems with my tmobile note 2?
Also, rooting is supposed to delete all of your apps?? Is there a way to get them back besides paying for titanium back up?
Another question I have is if another software update comes out, will I have to re root or how does that work? thanks :good:
Note_2 said:
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I see that it works on the international version, however will it cause problems with my tmobile note 2?
Also, rooting is supposed to delete all of your apps?? Is there a way to get them back besides paying for titanium back up?
Another question I have is if another software update comes out, will I have to re root or how does that work? thanks :good:
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Just use the toolkit here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957720 to root.
Rooting won't delete your apps... flashing ROM's will, then you can use TB to get them back.
You could unroot to get OTA update, then re-root... only takes a few minutes.
keeping apps and rooting
kozmo21 said:
Just use the toolkit here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957720 to root.
Rooting won't delete your apps... flashing ROM's will, then you can use TB to get them back.
You could unroot to get OTA update, then re-root... only takes a few minutes.
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The toolkit can also BACKUP YOUR APPS WITHOUT ROOT!!!! i've used it for backing up my apps a million times, especially for a facotry reset and some of those games i cant get my progress back. so i found this toolbox, and it backs the apps up without root perfectly, even if you flash to a different rom!

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