wondering, i noticed some other threads already about this, but im being a little specific here....
does rooting your G2, bought brand new from tmobile, void the warranty? anyone here happen to have to exchange theirs and they were rooted?
If Tmobile knows you rooted your phone YES it voids the warranty, BUT even if you root it there are methods to unroot it and return everything to stock for warranty purposes.
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there are methods to unroot it and return everything to stock for warranty purposes.
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that much i did know...
on the MT4G, i have a stock rom on the memory card and visionary installed, so basically im ready to go to install stock rom backup and then use visionary to unroot.
does a non stock rom void warranty as well? or if you unroot that rom wont work anyway?
tackleberry said:
does a non stock rom void warranty as well?
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In order to have a non stock rom you need to root (S-OFF) the G2, so the awnser is the same as above, YES it voids the warranty.
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or if you unroot that rom wont work anyway?
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sorry that second quote was regards to the custom rom. makes sense about the rooting for custom rom i forgot root was required to do that.
it aint illegal unless you are caught doing it. If you havent been caught -- then it aint illegal.
And before you start rooting, dont use visionary to root your G2.
Does Visionary still work for temp-root?
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Does Visionary still work for temp-root?
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Dont know but like I said dont use Visionary, its unreliable and has caused a few people to brick their G2's. Use the Wiki guide if you want to root.
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Does Visionary still work for temp-root?
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Yes I did/do use Visionary for temp root purposes and it works well. I did have strangeness using it to temp root on my wife's MT4G, most notably that the market and titanium backup stopped working if temp rooted.
For perm rooting I used rage/gfree as laid out in the wiki.
Is that with the ROA 1.72?
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Any consequences other than losing root? I'm not too concerned about getting it right this second since I know these devs at xda will cook somethin nice up in a few days. Just want to know my options. THanks
EDIT: im running dc 3.2.3 (2.1)
It should just flash the new ROM. Yes, you'll lose root and it probably replaces the bootloader so you can't boot into recovery either, but it should be just another stock phone after that.
So I am rooted and go to load up the update and it puts me in the spot with the android guy and the /!\ what gives...
yourfriendwayned said:
So I am rooted and go to load up the update and it puts me in the spot with the android guy and the /!\ what gives...
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I'm in the same boat dude. I currently have UnrEVOked 3 on my phone. My guess is that is whats F'n it up
SantinoInc said:
I'm in the same boat dude. I currently have UnrEVOked 3 on my phone. My guess is that is whats F'n it up
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hmmm yup I have the same root method - great I thought it would just write over...
Well we all know by now once your phone is rooted you cannot do any ota, you are much better of waiting a day or two to get the rooted version from one of the dev.
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Im pretty bummed, also in the same boat.
jahnile said:
Well we all know by now once your phone is rooted you cannot do any ota, you are much better of waiting a day or two to get the rooted version from one of the dev.
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some of us dont care about loosing root, and as far as i knew i could at anytime upgrade to something sprint put out and all that would happen is i would loose root.
I'm pretty pissed...I thought that an OTA would override the unrEVOked 3 since it's not even full root. Now I gotta figure out what to do next. There is another thread here that describes a method to UNROOT. But I'm not sure if it works with UNREVOKED 3
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I'm pretty pissed...I thought that an OTA would override the unrEVOked 3 since it's not even full root. Now I gotta figure out what to do next. There is another thread here that describes a method to UNROOT. But I'm not sure if it works with UNREVOKED 3
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It doesn't matter what you did to root it, you can un-root the same way
I don't want to ruu and erase everything either...
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I don't want to ruu and erase everything either...
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Well you just want the WORLD now don't you?
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Well you just want the WORLD now don't you?
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hmm is this a trick... do I have to trade my soul?
SantinoInc said:
I'm pretty pissed...I thought that an OTA would override the unrEVOked 3 since it's not even full root. Now I gotta figure out what to do next. There is another thread here that describes a method to UNROOT. But I'm not sure if it works with UNREVOKED 3
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This is my position aswell. Im sure i read pleanty of people saying unrevoked would have no effect on future updates, and the worst that would happen was loosing root.
eventually all the developers will migrate to froyo as a base so you can wait or you can unroot like me and install the OTA with no prob. When I installed the OTA it kinda installed like a regular app...did not go to bootloader or nothing like that. Then it just rebooted into froyo...did not lose anything such as installed apps or user data etc. It's all good eitherway you choose in my opinion. Keep root and wait...Unroot/OTA and wait...it will only be a short time like almost already and full froyo with root is a done deal...
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eventually all the developers will migrate to froyo as a base so you can wait or you can unroot like me and install the OTA with no prob. When I installed the OTA it kinda installed like a regular app...did not go to bootloader or nothing like that. Then it just rebooted into froyo...did not lose anything such as installed apps or user data etc. It's all good eitherway you choose in my opinion. Keep root and wait...Unroot/OTA and wait...it will only be a short time like almost already and full froyo with root is a done deal...
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Can you please list your steps for unrooting? I want to add the ota and reroot later.
Thanks,
Ian B
I had the june update so i was 1.47 but either way this is the program to use...
http://forum.androidcentral.com/htc-evo-4g-roms-hacks/19278-how-unroot-return-stock.html
This in my opinion is the way to go...make sure you use the 1.47 one and you are good to go...then get the OTA FROYO...I did it this way.
I had Unrevoked3 on mine for wifi tethering..and did the manual leaked update (update.zip on sd card etc) and it worked just peachy, if you wanted to go that route. I did lost my root but none of my data (even superusers is still installed lol)
From what I read there isnt much of a difference between the .3 and .6 versions anyway
Maybe if you did that, then waited to see what HTC comes up with for us "early adopters" to get us up to speed lol
Hi, I'm sorta a noob with rooting so bare with me. First, what version of visionary should I use to root my device? Will it work after the ota update? What are the chances of visionary bricking my phone or doing anything that would make my phone unusable? Will it put SU on my phone? And now for the main question, how will I get cyanogen on my g2? Thanks for any help!
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As far as i know visionary is not gonna brick your phone ,in regard to changing your rom you also need to s/off your phone, and to do that you need to setup ADB on your computer i suggest you read this posts first ,you will find all the answers you are after
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857390
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855764
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=835777
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=532719
After you root and s-off your phone you need to setup rom manager so you will get clockworkmod recovery and you can boot in to that and flash a new rom or kernel through there.
and i am not sure about the question you had about the update.
yes you will get su after rooting.
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Hi, I'm sorta a noob with rooting so bare with me. First, what version of visionary should I use to root my device? Will it work after the ota update? What are the chances of visionary bricking my phone or doing anything that would make my phone unusable? Will it put SU on my phone? And now for the main question, how will I get cyanogen on my g2? Thanks for any help!
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Ok, first there are already many threads on this subject, so next time you should try a search first,
for example: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=850141
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=882546
Next the following links will help walk you thru rooting your phone using visionary r14. I have not had any problems with it, many people have rooted this way. If something goes wrong it is usually operator error. This method is for after the OTA. All needed files and links are in the video instructions.
Visionary has bricked phones before when not properly used, the videos show how to use it properly, use all the same settings in the videos.
This is the visionary method, but works perfectly when done correctly..
No adb needed.
Follow the videos to a "T", remove visionary and superusers from you phone if you already have them installed from a previous temp root before following the videos, start fresh, follow the videos starting with temp root then onto perm root then onto flashing a rom. Do everything just like the videos start to finish and you should have no problems.
Temp root first:
http://theunlockr.com/2010/10/20/how-to-root-the-t-mobile-g2-htc-vision-visionary-method/
Then perm root
http://theunlockr.com/2010/11/30/how-to-gain-permanent-root-and-s-off-on-the-t-mobile-g2-htc-vision/
Then flash a rom
http://theunlockr.com/2010/11/30/how-to-load-a-custom-rom-on-the-t-mobile-g2-htc-vision/
Remember don't assume you know how to temp root properly, follow all three videos start to finish and you should have no problems
Also the video "Load a custom rom" will give you a link to flash your first rom. There are a couple of choices to choose from.
Good Luck.
Editlease see post #32 in this thread for a testimony from someone who just followed the videos and rooted his phone.
Thanks soooo much!!! I have another question, how will I be able to get gingerbread after rooting? Or should I wait? Do I need to wipe my phhone? And what if I just want vanilla android with su and cyanogen?
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Hwoarang747 said:
Thanks soooo much!!! I have another question, how will I be able to get gingerbread after rooting? Or should I wait? Do I need to wipe my phhone? And what if I just want vanilla android with su and cyanogen?
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Everyones still waiting on gingerbread, but it looks like Cyanogen is in the lead for releasing it.
Any time you flash a new rom you need to wipe data/cache in recovery. Updates to the same rom a wipe is not needed.
As far as what you want in a rom, my suggestion is to start flashing diffrent roms and give them a try. I thought I didnt like sense but I am currently running a sense rom (Virtuous). So you dont know till you try.
1) Don't use Visionary. People have had brick after brick when using it. Use the rage method.
2) There's a beta version of CM7.0.0 out. The devs are still working out the bugs in it.
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1) Don't use Visionary. People have had brick after brick when using it. Use the rage method.
2) There's a beta version of CM7.0.0 out. The devs are still working out the bugs in it.
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1)Show me one brick from someone following the videos I posted and Ill take the links down. Yes a lot of people have bricked using visionary, but thats because they assumed they knew what they were doing when in fact they did not. Visionary causes bricks when not properly used, the videos shows how to use it properly. You must follow all the steps from start to finish including the temp root settings they use in the videos.
2)and yes there is a beta version of gingerbread out CM7 but Cyanogen did not officially release this version, and there are so many bugs in it I hardly think a noob needs to flash CM 7.0.0.
What exactly its the range method?
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What exactly its the range method?
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Its Rage method and heres a link to the thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834228&highlight=rage
I recommend you read this thread and make informed desicions, if you know how to use ADB, then this is another method. But if you dont the method I posted above is your other option, it doesn't require the use of ADB.
As far as ADB goes this is something I highly recommend learning, but we all know some people just dont get it. It took me a lot of reading and watching videos to understand ADB. Now that I know how to use ADB its pretty simple, but I remember when I first started with rooting ADB was like reading greek. But I really cant stress enough the importance of learning ADB.
Hahah sorry, i was using swype. And yeah, so what do you recomend, cause i really dont wanna brick my phone for its fairly new.
Oh, and another thing, if i root with visionary or rage, that only gives me root access. But if i flash a rom then i will also have cyanogen? And i was reading, since i wanna oc, whats this kernel stuff? Please forgive my noobish ways
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Hahah sorry, i was using swype. And yeah, so what do you recomend, cause i really dont wanna brick my phone for its fairly new.
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I used the videos to root my G2, there have been a lot of bricks using Visionary but I have yet to see anyone say they followed the videos to the "T" and it bricked there phone. As for the Rage method, there have been almost no reports of bricks from this method, but I have seen a few bootloops (stuck on the HTC screen). It requires using ADB, so if your ok with ADB use the Rage method, if not, you'll have to weigh the risks based on your own ability. My suggestion, watch the videos, all of them and if its something within your skill range go for it.
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Oh, and another thing, if i root with visionary or rage, that only gives me root access. But if i flash a rom then i will also have cyanogen? And i was reading, since i wanna oc, whats this kernel stuff? Please forgive my noobish ways
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Ok, get rooted first then you can worry about kernels, I believe Cyanogen 6.1.1 already comes with an overclocked kernel up to 1.42GHz. So all you have to do is flash CM 6.1.1 his latest release, then down load a cpu controlling app from the market like setcpu(which I use) or cputuner(free) and set the parameters you want your cpu to run at.
Thanks, but a boot loop is fixable right?
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It usualy is you can boot in to recovery and wipe and flash another kernal or rom. Just have a look at the links that I posted ,you will get all the answers.
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Hwoarang747 said:
Thanks, but a boot loop is fixable right?
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Not always hopefully if this happens you have gotten far enough along to put a recovery on your phone, or sometime you can stock recovery factory reset but if those options arn't there guess what you would have to have AndriodSDk installed on your computer with ADB, but you would have to do everything in fastboot mode which is giving commands from your computer to you phone. So it wouldn't be adb because you have to be booted into Andriod to use it, it would be fastboot and run commands similar to ADB, so for this purpose you would have to know how to use ADB. And even then no guarantees. So if you are looking for a guarantee you wont brick your phone there are none, and I wont give you one, these methods have been proven to work if you follow them exactly, mess up and you have a brick.
I know most people dont have $500+ laying around and I know I dont but for me the rewards far outweighed the risk. I just got a pm from another member that followed the videos and guess what he is rooted, he did it today. I asked him to post in this thread with his success story, so hopefully he will.
Here is a quote from him from my PM "it worked! i got so frustrated with adb, i gave it a shot and success!"
Edit: He just posted success his user name is robot_agenda and his post is #32 in this thread.
wait so what did he give a shot? the gfree method?
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wait so what did he give a shot? the gfree method?
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He rooted his phone with visionary following the videos I posted.
and also, have you heard of the issue with visionary where the phone boots into recovery when being charged?
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and also, have you heard of the issue with visionary where the phone boots into recovery when being charged?
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That has nothing to do with visionary, thats has to do with ClockworkMod recovery, if your phone is powered off and you plug it in to charge it boots into recovery, if you want root you have to deal with this issue untill they fix the bug in clockworkmod recovery. Also the phone shuts off fine unless its pluged in. Everyone with a htc vision phone who is rooted has this issue. as for me I charge my phone while it on so it doesn't bother me.
heres a link to the problem:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=884516
Ive been through the forum and i want some input. I would like to root.my play but im not sure which method.to use. What I want is to get n option to unroot. Im running 2.3.3, R800i. There was this option to downgrade frst to 2.3.2 and use Gingerbreak but that seem to to have a clear unroot path. And there's the doomlords easy root. Can anyone point me to th right direction?
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Why would you want to unroot btw?
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Ive been through the forum and i want some input. I would like to root.my play but im not sure which method.to use. What I want is to get n option to unroot. Im running 2.3.3, R800i. There was this option to downgrade frst to 2.3.2 and use Gingerbreak but that seem to to have a clear unroot path. And there's the doomlords easy root. Can anyone point me to th right direction?
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Go with Doomlord's Easy Root. In that thread, found here, when you scroll down through the instructions, he has also provided an Unrooting method for use ONLY if you use his method to root to begin with.
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Why would you want to unroot btw?
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I understand that rooting voids the warranty so just in case I need to use that warranty I can just unroot the device. Im not sure though if they'll know if the device was rooted even if you unroot it.
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Go with Doomlord's Easy Root. In that thread, found here, when you scroll down through the instructions, he has also provided an Unrooting method for use ONLY if you use his method to root to begin with.
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Something tells me Im gonna go with this method. Question though, would I still be able to get the official upgrade to ICS if ever sony releases one next year?
Also, any idea where I can get the adb drivers for the Xperia Play?
acehazard said:
Something tells me Im gonna go with this method. Question though, would I still be able to get the official upgrade to ICS if ever sony releases one next year?
Also, any idea where I can get the adb drivers for the Xperia Play?
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Sony will be releasing Ice cream sandwich (They released an alpha build already) and yeah you will be able to upgrade (Pretty sure of it)
acehazard said:
I understand that rooting voids the warranty so just in case I need to use that warranty I can just unroot the device. Im not sure though if they'll know if the device was rooted even if you unroot it.
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Thats called fraud you know!
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Thats called fraud you know!
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Only if they catch you that's why you just flashtool back to stock and your good on that front (as long as you don't have a bootloader unlocked through se website)
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Thanks for all your help guys.. Im rooted now. Just need to know what to do next. LOL
Factory unlocked Neo with root getting ICS?
guys, but what about this situation? (don't be surprised at my possibly noob questions)
I bought my Neo unlocked, I rooted it some time ago, but now I'm curious about the ICS update..will i have to unroot to do the update safely? I didn't delete any of the junk/unnecessary apps, i just froze them..so, I've been reading across different threads dealing with updates for rooted phones, and it seems that I'm gonna have to have to unfreeze the apps, unroot and then do the update via PC and not OTA..is that right?
what I would like to know is this: is it possible for me to uninstall all the unnecessary apps and then upgrade to ICS? I would uninstall only a few apps such as the chinese and japanese (POBox) keyboard, News & Weather, Office Suite, and probably just a few more minor ones..
Some say I can both keep root and upgrade to ICS without any problems but I read in many threads that I shouldn't do that, especially if I uninstalled any pre-installed apps..
I have never rooted a phone before and just exchanged my samsung intercept(broke) for HTC WildFire S(Virgin Mobile) and i have been going through forums trying to find a guide but i don't really know where i am suppose to start with the whole process of rooting. mainly wanna be able to delete the useless apps that came pre-installed with the phone that i'll never use and move others that can be moved over to SDcard to free up more space and maybe OC the CPU a bit, also seen the GPU has an update which will make it handle 3D games better? phones fine for me just wanna speed it up a bit if anyone could post links to the guides(if i missed them) in the order i have to do everything in, including how to back up the stock thing incase i do it wrong or whatever to be able to put it back to factory.
Sorry if this has been asked but i am completely lost as to where to even start at and i don't wanna brick my phone.
Follow this link
First you need to unlock your bootloader and flash cwm recovery you find rom manager on the "market" flash the recovery with it then you have to copy the file found in this post to the root of your sdcard http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23697338#post23697338 Reboot your phone in recovery using rom manager then chose install zip from sdcard after instaling the zip, reboot the phone....Voila your rooted For backup use rom manager to that also. Or you can read more detailed here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1325730
Virgin mobile is CDMA right??? If it is you can S-OFF(remove write protection on NAND) and then root your phone....this is better as compared to officially unlocking the bootloader as it will void your warranty.
Just go by this link and follow the instructions
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1432425
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Virgin mobile is CDMA right??? If it is you can S-OFF(remove write protection on NAND) and then root your phone....this is better as compared to officially unlocking the bootloader as it will void your warranty.
Just go by this link and follow the instructions
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csoulr666 said:
Virgin mobile is CDMA right??? If it is you can S-OFF(remove write protection on NAND) and then root your phone....this is better as compared to officially unlocking the bootloader as it will void your warranty.
Just go by this link and follow the instructions
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in that link there is no links leading to what needs to be downloaded anymore on the instructions on post #5, if thats what you are talking about, found this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1367701
but idk how to do the S-Off you are talking about without voiding warranty(dunno if it voids my bestbuy warranty also?) everything i seen shows using htcdev. after s-off and rooted i dont need any custom rom or anything to move apps or OC cpu at all right?
First you need s-off, then root, then clock work mod (recovery)
Your warranty will be voided but best buy wont notice, if you brick your phone just tell them it wont turn on or its acting funny, worked for me 3 times when I thought a soft brick phone was a comppetly broken phone
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So i havent rooted yet (so many reasons to root god dammit!) but i also want to keep the warranty or at least for hardware issues, that my arise during my warranty period. I dont plan on installing roms mostly just rooting stock for some root features that i like. let's say i ran into an issue, can i unroot and restore my warranty?
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So i havent rooted yet (so many reasons to root god dammit!) but i also want to keep the warranty or at least for hardware issues, that my arise during my warranty period. I dont plan on installing roms mostly just rooting stock for some root features that i like. let's say i ran into an issue, can i unroot and restore my warranty?
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You can unroot and relock the bootloader, but it will always show that it has previously been unlocked. It's then really up to HTC what they do should you claim under warranty (in theory they should still cover hardware faults, but there have been threads from users who've still been charged because they'd flashed other ROMs, so I wouldn't say it's guaranteed).
ahh ok, well i'll bump this to get more opinions on the matter but still Thanks
hopscotchjunkie said:
You can unroot and relock the bootloader, but it will always show that it has previously been unlocked. It's then really up to HTC what they do should you claim under warranty (in theory they should still cover hardware faults, but there have been threads from users who've still been charged because they'd flashed other ROMs, so I wouldn't say it's guaranteed).
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I believe if your phone goes back with "illegal" software they will replace your motherboard and what ever else and charge you but if its relocked all stock and the fault was without doubt not.caused by the user warranty should remain.
Interesting how they refer to custom firmware as illegal.
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what about flashing other roms, then when returning, flashing stock rom and relocking?