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OMAP 3630 is awesome!! (at least at 1 Ghz)

I found this video with the new LG-LU3000 Android device with OMAP 3630 CPU at 1 Ghz. In the video can see that the new LG is faster than Samsung Galaxy S and iPhone!!
I hope that the custom ROM will come soon!! (with OC)
Source: en.akihabaranews.com/74638/phones/lg-lu3000-world-fastest-smartphone-yet
I can't post direct links, sorry

Maybe i'm wrong but omap3630 go up to 800 mhz not 1ghz. Instead, omap3640 reaches 1ghz.
take a look here, but there are many other sources, just google for omap36xx.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Instruments_OMAP
Btw, defy itself is equipped with 3630, motorola's specifications say 3610 but they also include a powerVR graphic chip (which is ONLY present in 3620, 3630 and 3640 processors), so it's clear it can't be 3610.
Then i agree with your, TI cpus are great, in my opinion a lot better than qualcomm.

The Defy one is underclocked afaik.
If you check your wiki-link and and follow the Cortex A8 reference, it clearly states the CPU supports everything between 600Mhz and 1Ghz+
Overclocking should start beyond that point, because the CPU supports the mentioned speed already...the defy doesn't use it to increase the battery-life.

Yes i see, 600 to 1000 mhz. I was not 100% sure so i wrote "maybe i'm wrong".. but this is better than i expected.
So, defy + froyo + overclock to 1ghz =

I'll be happy enough with 2.2 and without overclocking. Also, FWIW, the processor range according to android system info (market app), the processor can run at 300, 600 and 800 mhz. My defy is scoring higher than the SGS as it is on quadrant.
I love the defy. My first and as of now favorite android phone. Not as pricey as some of the "top end" android devices, just as fast and powerful (moreso in a lot of cases), rugged, great battery life. I'm hooked! It's a mini beast!

MTDG said:
Overclocking should start beyond that point, because the CPU supports the mentioned speed already...the defy doesn't use it to increase the battery-life.
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I'm afraid you're wrong.
Just because the CPU supports a 600-1000MHz range, that doesn't mean that it will use the same amount of power at those speeds.
If you look at the likes of desktop and laptop CPUs, they down-clock to reduce power usage when there's less load on them.
So, yes, Motorola's decision to clock the CPU at 800MHz instead of 1GHz may well be a decision to save battery life.

That's what i wanted to say
Sry for my bad english :x

is there any way to overclock to 1G? using setcpu?

Is there any good reason to overclock it?

Qustion About Overclocking Defy

Hello Everyone
Is overclocking the defy to 1GHz is ok?and by ok i mean stable for a long time....and not for few months and then the phone is dead or something
thanx in advance

Many have been OC-ed to 1 ghz without any issue.
I'm running with 1000/52 in setvsel.

Overclocking doesn't harm unless the voltage is correct and not too much. OC to 1 GHz and see the lowest voltage that you can run stable on. Set it as the setting.
Also, CPU scales as per demand so your Defy will not run at 1 Ghz all the time, only when it requires that muscle...
And CPU's do last a long time, my 8 year old Pentium 4 just refuses to die...LOL

Running the Defy at 1000/52 and 75% with Setvsel. No problems and battery-power for full 3 days including a 6 hour geocaching trail. That's ok.

my defy can handle 1,2ghz long term, so you should be fine with 1ghz just make sure you set the vsel right, setting it too high could damage the cpu, setting it too low causes reboot, but no damage. so you can start by setting it to 50vsel, and if your phone is instable (i recommend setvsel and stability test for testing) set it a bit higher!

ok
thank you so much guys

Seriously no one knows, as no one has been owning and overclocking defy for over half year. But I think 1g is fine. Mine can easily go to 1.4g at 7x vsel, though I'm using 1.2g at 62 vsel.

mine maxed out on 1.37ghz, but im still using [email protected] theres nothing i use 800mhz cant handle, and with undervolting i can seriously lower battery consumption.

Mine is OC'd to 1ghz with Milestone overclock with no problems, and it's super fast also.

Defy+

I was passing time at GSM arena when i noticed the Defy+ in their phone list:
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3514&idPhone2=4098
They have really changed the processor?
And this battery of 1700 mA?? I want one of these...
Any new on this "new" phone?
Cheers!

Same processor just not underclocked like the defy is (if I remember correctly)... it's pretty much the same phone. Which sucks.
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Cept for an improved GPU and a bigger battery it doesnt offer much over the Defy.
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improved gpu? what are you talking about? it has the same powervr sgx530 chip, because its the same processor too... and the new battery fits in the defy, so theres really no sense upgrading from defy to defy+.
sent from my cm7 defy...

me too noticed this just today while searching for my first moto phone details...
a one to one comparison shows the cpu is 3610 vs 3620 in +
and the increased battery rating...
all in all same but not much os a + to get one to upgrade....
had it been a 1.2 / 1.5 Ghz with a 4" screen... thing would have been worth an upgrade... maybe...

desihu said:
me too noticed this just today while searching for my first moto phone details...
a one to one comparison shows the cpu is 3610 vs 3620 in +
and the increased battery rating...
all in all same but not much os a + to get one to upgrade....
had it been a 1.2 / 1.5 Ghz with a 4" screen... thing would have been worth an upgrade... maybe...
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And again, 3610 and 3620 are just market numbers, those models do not exist. All of them are 3630 but clocked at different speeds.
3630 - 800 Mhz
3630 - 1000 Mhz
3630 - 1200 Mhz
There is no difference on Instructions Sets, technology, or anything, all are ARMV7 with the only difference beign the Mhz
Want a Defy+? get the battery and Overclock your Defy to 1000 Mhz

I meant CPU. Autocorrect pawns me often! Its not an upgrade yet a good replacement for old users looking forward to stick with the Defy brand.
Still a sham for the least they could do was include a front camera not making Gingerbread pointless.
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At first I was frustrated that they were releasing such an improvement from the Defy, but the difference isn't THAT much, just the OC and the battery. So I'm fine with my Defy. After all, we can still do stuff with this right?
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Zephyrot said:
And again, 3610 and 3620 are just market numbers, those models do not exist. All of them are 3630 but clocked at different speeds.
3630 - 800 Mhz
3630 - 1000 Mhz
3630 - 1200 Mhz
There is no difference on Instructions Sets, technology, or anything, all are ARMV7 with the only difference beign the Mhz
Want a Defy+? get the battery and Overclock your Defy to 1000 Mhz
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So it wold be allrigth to our defy to run at 1200? Its processor was made for that? Or we maybe would have some heat issue?
Found the 1700mAh battery for sale at Mugen power... Kind of expensive. I'm flearting with it now.
Just to be clear, i never even considered an "Upgrade" for the Defy+. I just want my phone to be as fast and the battery last as much as it could!!
Thanks a lot for all replies!

Can't say if the chip was tailormade for that frequency as it does heat up a bit after a while but yes its still safe.
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evilinheaven said:
So it wold be allrigth to our defy to run at 1200? Its processor was made for that? Or we maybe would have some heat issue?
Found the 1700mAh battery for sale at Mugen power... Kind of expensive. I'm flearting with it now.
Just to be clear, i never even considered an "Upgrade" for the Defy+. I just want my phone to be as fast and the battery last as much as it could!!
Thanks a lot for all replies!
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Yep what ryan8r said, I dont know if it was made to run a 800 or 1200.
I do run mine at 1100 since I bought it (couple months ago) at vSel 54 and it doesnt heat up, works wonders.

evilinheaven said:
Found the 1700mAh battery for sale at Mugen power... Kind of expensive. I'm flearting with it now.
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I ve got that battery and I have to say that on any froyo and any custom roms 2.2 the improvement was really visible, however, currently im on MotoGinger and I only get 2 days of battery and that s a maximum. its probably my fault because recently I cant be arsed playing with a phone

any other "rugged phone" suggestions? currently im still using the galaxy spica on my mtb rides mainly for its gps function... with this i can still take pictures even when its raining....
I meant CPU. Autocorrect pawns me often! Its not an upgrade yet a good replacement for old users looking forward to stick with the Defy brand.
Still a sham for the least they could do was include a front camera not making Gingerbread pointless.
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ooops, sorry i missed this post before inquiring

just see Texas Instruments site.
Processors are not the same!
OMAP 3610: no 2D/3D graphics accelerator POWERVR SGX™

balanki said:
just see Texas Instruments site.
Processors are not the same!
OMAP 3610: no 2D/3D graphics accelerator POWERVR SGX™
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Refer to sixth post in this thread. Motorola lied, both defy and defy+ have the 3630
Reason is that it is well known that defy and defy+ both have the same gpu that the specs say the 3630 has, and the easy overclocking to 1300mHz...
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I have already defy+ and run on it "Quadrant test" and it shows me that I have same processor like Defy "ARMv7 Processor rev 2 (v7l)" The difference is that my is on 1GHz and Defy is 800Mhz....

Defy Overclocking

Hello people
Today I bought my new defy and I'm testing the possibilities of the device.
After some misgivings, I've made a progressive overclock and hit the 3GHz mark.
Someone has already gone beyond that and know if the device remains stable? Here it is running at 3GHz for an hour and not warmed more than 1 º C and not spent too much power. And yes, he is set to keep the clock all the time.
Did someone made this as well?
Edit: I can't post the Screenshots 'cause I'm a new user. If someone are interested in it, I can send it by pm.

I went to 1ghz and no further... you must have money to burn (or phones to burn!)

The phone didn't overheat. Even after one hour at 3GHz, the temperature did not rise more than 1 º C.
I wonder if anyone else has ventured within the limits of overclocking.

Even at 3GHZ, there's nothing gain as no apps or games need that power to run at the moment. All apps and games would run smooth even at 1GHZ. Possibility at this 3GHZ is only a fried processor if the phone won't do the auto shut down.
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It's still on and working without overheating, but I noticed the needless of this clock
I'll set the clock for 1.5ghz.
What rom do you recommend to me? I'm using Cyanogenmod rc 1.5.

3GHz is impossible, over 1.5GHz CPU can't work, you can set 10GHz, but will be exactly the same as 1.5GHz

May it be 3.0ghz only on the display but no in the system?
I'm new on this phone and don't know so much about it

3GHz? Hehe!

Yes, on screen it's shows 3GHz. But, like bvbfan said, I think it's only on screen and not the true frequence of the clock.
What program I can use to check this?
I'm using CyanogenMod Rc 1.5

Im running my Defy on 1 Ghz for ages now.
Never had a problem and i think going any further will not be healthy for your phone especially when you increase the vsel over 58

however you make it happen, it is fake. simply because of no heat. it is not really 3GHz, just a number you see on screen. run Quarant and see if it is really 3GHz

The current kernel won't let you overclock anywhere above 1.3 ghz. Its ARMv7 CPU limit I believe.
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where to get the link to overclock
Stenz28 said:
I went to 1ghz and no further... you must have money to burn (or phones to burn!)
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Hey bro. Could you tell me where to get the link to overclock defy? Also please elaborate the steps, if you can.
thanks

nisshant said:
Hey bro. Could you tell me where to get the link to overclock defy? Also please elaborate the steps, if you can.
thanks
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Just download SetVsel from Play Store, then search in Google for Defy overclocking.

Overclocked Since 1 Year
I am using Aero Control with the following settings:
GPU freq : 266MHz
VSEL Levels:
400/34
800/44
1100/56
1300/66
Governer: Interavtive
Current ROM: CM11 by Quarx 2
Kernel: 29/7 kernel by Blechdose
It is stable. No heating issues whatsoever :angel:

[Q] increase max cpu clock?

is it possible to overclock above 768mhz? my phone never gets warm and battery lasts 2+ days, completely stable at this speed, i want to learn how i can edit a kernel and increase the cpu voltage ever so slightly and increase max cpu clock and see whats stable, could you help me?

i think you will just start to get kernel panics if you try to go much higher .
i have another phone (lg 500) also with the same arm6 cpu that comes clocked at 600 from factory. i have the option to oc to 825 with custom kernel but it always panics at 806 and is stable at 787.
So i think if you want a faster phone go buy one

massigann said:
i have another phone (lg 500) also with the same arm6 cpu that comes clocked
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Nope.
P500 has an ARM11 MS7227 processor
Wildfire has an ARM11 MS7225 processor.
http://xi0.info/qualcomm-chips-kernel-arm-phones_7000.html

lol the chipset for the wildfire is MSM7225 but the cpu is arm6/11? on half of the sites is arm6 the other arm11..

Hi I have mine set to 710 and any higher starts getting random reboots.
But overclocking any higher than 768, your risking a chip melt or definitely shorting its life.