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1.4 Ghz Crash, any happens the same?

Motorola droid 2 overclocks at 1.4Ghz stable at 72-76 Vsel ( i seen ) but our defy's can't do that frequency, inclusive with 80vsel still not stable...
There is any reason? why droid 2 can, but defy doesn't.. in "teori" defy have an omap 3630, the same as droid 2.
Maybe something on the driver? or simply hardware limitation?
thanks

Because that Phone has a CPU that has already a higher default clock.
Even if it is the same CPU, the chip used in the Defy mostly just didnt
meet the required parameters for 1 GHz and was stamped 800 MHz.
So you will in most cases not be able to go that far in OC.
tomeu0000 said:
Motorola droid 2 overclocks at 1.4Ghz stable at 72-76 Vsel ( i seen ) but our defy's can't do that frequency, inclusive with 80vsel still not stable...
There is any reason? why droid 2 can, but defy doesn't.. in "teori" defy have an omap 3630, the same as droid 2.
Maybe something on the driver? or simply hardware limitation?
thanks
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I haven't tried yet 1,4 Ghz.
Now i'm at 1,3 Ghz stable...
Have you tried higher vSel values?
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WoooooooW, what can be done with my NEW defy

-={antibyte}=- said:
Because that Phone has a CPU that has already a higher default clock.
Even if it is the same CPU, the chip used in the Defy mostly just didnt
meet the required parameters for 1 GHz and was stamped 800 MHz.
So you will in most cases not be able to go that far in OC.
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im sorry but Chinese defy runs by default at 1ghz, and with the same Vsel as default 800Mhz....
I don't care about this... but i'm still thinking there is any way to overclock safetly at 1.4Ghz and more like the Droid 2.
Example, HTC HD2, in his time the max overclock at 1.2Ghz ( maximum stable ) and now is stable at 1.5Ghz.... you don't believe? search on hd2 forum...

tomeu0000 said:
im sorry but Chinese defy runs by default at 1ghz, and with the same Vsel as default 800Mhz....
I don't care about this... but i'm still thinking there is any way to overclock safetly at 1.4Ghz and more like the Droid 2.
Example, HTC HD2, in his time the max overclock at 1.2Ghz ( maximum stable ) and now is stable at 1.5Ghz.... you don't believe? search on hd2 forum...
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AFAIK Chinese Defy (ME525) also run at 800Hz by default.
Defy may have same CPU as Droid2, but even same CPU of different production batches often have different overclockability.

ABC_Universal said:
AFAIK Chinese Defy (ME525) also run at 800Hz by default.
Defy may have same CPU as Droid2, but even same CPU of different production batches often have different overclockability.
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Maybe the overclock is not 100% factible.
The pone is precintated to resist wather, and overheats easy.
Well, i'm happy with my 1.3Ghz at 64Vsel.

Defy+

I was passing time at GSM arena when i noticed the Defy+ in their phone list:
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3514&idPhone2=4098
They have really changed the processor?
And this battery of 1700 mA?? I want one of these...
Any new on this "new" phone?
Cheers!

Same processor just not underclocked like the defy is (if I remember correctly)... it's pretty much the same phone. Which sucks.
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Cept for an improved GPU and a bigger battery it doesnt offer much over the Defy.
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improved gpu? what are you talking about? it has the same powervr sgx530 chip, because its the same processor too... and the new battery fits in the defy, so theres really no sense upgrading from defy to defy+.
sent from my cm7 defy...

me too noticed this just today while searching for my first moto phone details...
a one to one comparison shows the cpu is 3610 vs 3620 in +
and the increased battery rating...
all in all same but not much os a + to get one to upgrade....
had it been a 1.2 / 1.5 Ghz with a 4" screen... thing would have been worth an upgrade... maybe...

desihu said:
me too noticed this just today while searching for my first moto phone details...
a one to one comparison shows the cpu is 3610 vs 3620 in +
and the increased battery rating...
all in all same but not much os a + to get one to upgrade....
had it been a 1.2 / 1.5 Ghz with a 4" screen... thing would have been worth an upgrade... maybe...
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And again, 3610 and 3620 are just market numbers, those models do not exist. All of them are 3630 but clocked at different speeds.
3630 - 800 Mhz
3630 - 1000 Mhz
3630 - 1200 Mhz
There is no difference on Instructions Sets, technology, or anything, all are ARMV7 with the only difference beign the Mhz
Want a Defy+? get the battery and Overclock your Defy to 1000 Mhz

I meant CPU. Autocorrect pawns me often! Its not an upgrade yet a good replacement for old users looking forward to stick with the Defy brand.
Still a sham for the least they could do was include a front camera not making Gingerbread pointless.
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At first I was frustrated that they were releasing such an improvement from the Defy, but the difference isn't THAT much, just the OC and the battery. So I'm fine with my Defy. After all, we can still do stuff with this right?
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Zephyrot said:
And again, 3610 and 3620 are just market numbers, those models do not exist. All of them are 3630 but clocked at different speeds.
3630 - 800 Mhz
3630 - 1000 Mhz
3630 - 1200 Mhz
There is no difference on Instructions Sets, technology, or anything, all are ARMV7 with the only difference beign the Mhz
Want a Defy+? get the battery and Overclock your Defy to 1000 Mhz
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So it wold be allrigth to our defy to run at 1200? Its processor was made for that? Or we maybe would have some heat issue?
Found the 1700mAh battery for sale at Mugen power... Kind of expensive. I'm flearting with it now.
Just to be clear, i never even considered an "Upgrade" for the Defy+. I just want my phone to be as fast and the battery last as much as it could!!
Thanks a lot for all replies!

Can't say if the chip was tailormade for that frequency as it does heat up a bit after a while but yes its still safe.
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evilinheaven said:
So it wold be allrigth to our defy to run at 1200? Its processor was made for that? Or we maybe would have some heat issue?
Found the 1700mAh battery for sale at Mugen power... Kind of expensive. I'm flearting with it now.
Just to be clear, i never even considered an "Upgrade" for the Defy+. I just want my phone to be as fast and the battery last as much as it could!!
Thanks a lot for all replies!
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Yep what ryan8r said, I dont know if it was made to run a 800 or 1200.
I do run mine at 1100 since I bought it (couple months ago) at vSel 54 and it doesnt heat up, works wonders.

evilinheaven said:
Found the 1700mAh battery for sale at Mugen power... Kind of expensive. I'm flearting with it now.
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I ve got that battery and I have to say that on any froyo and any custom roms 2.2 the improvement was really visible, however, currently im on MotoGinger and I only get 2 days of battery and that s a maximum. its probably my fault because recently I cant be arsed playing with a phone

any other "rugged phone" suggestions? currently im still using the galaxy spica on my mtb rides mainly for its gps function... with this i can still take pictures even when its raining....
I meant CPU. Autocorrect pawns me often! Its not an upgrade yet a good replacement for old users looking forward to stick with the Defy brand.
Still a sham for the least they could do was include a front camera not making Gingerbread pointless.
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ooops, sorry i missed this post before inquiring

just see Texas Instruments site.
Processors are not the same!
OMAP 3610: no 2D/3D graphics accelerator POWERVR SGX™

balanki said:
just see Texas Instruments site.
Processors are not the same!
OMAP 3610: no 2D/3D graphics accelerator POWERVR SGX™
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Refer to sixth post in this thread. Motorola lied, both defy and defy+ have the 3630
Reason is that it is well known that defy and defy+ both have the same gpu that the specs say the 3630 has, and the easy overclocking to 1300mHz...
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I have already defy+ and run on it "Quadrant test" and it shows me that I have same processor like Defy "ARMv7 Processor rev 2 (v7l)" The difference is that my is on 1GHz and Defy is 800Mhz....

[Q] increase max cpu clock?

is it possible to overclock above 768mhz? my phone never gets warm and battery lasts 2+ days, completely stable at this speed, i want to learn how i can edit a kernel and increase the cpu voltage ever so slightly and increase max cpu clock and see whats stable, could you help me?

i think you will just start to get kernel panics if you try to go much higher .
i have another phone (lg 500) also with the same arm6 cpu that comes clocked at 600 from factory. i have the option to oc to 825 with custom kernel but it always panics at 806 and is stable at 787.
So i think if you want a faster phone go buy one

massigann said:
i have another phone (lg 500) also with the same arm6 cpu that comes clocked
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Nope.
P500 has an ARM11 MS7227 processor
Wildfire has an ARM11 MS7225 processor.
http://xi0.info/qualcomm-chips-kernel-arm-phones_7000.html

lol the chipset for the wildfire is MSM7225 but the cpu is arm6/11? on half of the sites is arm6 the other arm11..

Hi I have mine set to 710 and any higher starts getting random reboots.
But overclocking any higher than 768, your risking a chip melt or definitely shorting its life.

Set CPU for WP7

Can anyone develop an app which can set CPU speed in WP7 phones???

probably.

Now, this would be kind of cool!! Especially if i can run my samsung focus at 1.4ghz

Overclocking by 40% would probably destroy your phone... just saying.

GoodDayToDie said:
Overclocking by 40% would probably destroy your phone... just saying.
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I don't think so. My old Omnia HD (Symbian) can be overclocked from 600mhz to 900/950mhz (50% more) without problem, with an elder architecture...
I wish to see 2nd Gen. devices how much can be overclocked...1.8 Ghz will be great! But Wp is the faster OS yet =D

Older architectures are actually often better for overclocking, because they're not running as close to the theoretical limit on the speed of the chip (the practical limit is based on heat dissipation capability, but there are other limits that are more subtle and tend to just result in weird hardware errors rather than thermal shutoff). That said, 1GHz is still probably pretty far from the limit.

I wouldn't oc for my device just to watch the speed of the cpu or maybe just a little bit

I think this will be useful only for device with new cpu with 1ghz clock like radar

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HTC One X CPU Overclocking???

Can someone tell me where I can find over-clock able kernel for my international One X? And what is the biggest clock speed on ONE X?

At present faux kernel can oc depending on what variant CPU you have but max at 1.6ghz
I have a v2 and can do 1.55 quad fine
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Eternity Project has an OC version up to 1.7GHz single core and 1.6GHz quad core

ZeroInfinity said:
Eternity Project has an OC version up to 1.7GHz single core and 1.6GHz quad core
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Can you post link?

stefan063 said:
Can you post link?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1640532
Be careful of OC, always remember, not all chips are made equal

About last Repacked Eternity Project for ARHD 9.x.x
Hello,
I try the Last repacked eternity project kernel for ARHD 9.x.x the Kernel: 3.4 v0.38 (Overclocked) at :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1654982
But the module file was repacked for CMW ROM.
Who find good repacked module corresponding to this kernel ?
Thank you for jour help.

Underclock
As this thread is about setting CPU speeds, can somebody help me with my problem as no one is responding?
Its about underclocking..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1868011
Thanks in advance!

how does the OC work? i mean then running all our core it is limited to 1.2 ghz and is 1.5 on a single core.
does that men all cores run at the OC value or just the single core?
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I suggest you flash faux's kernel.
It can oc to 1.6GHZ for most user~
and it support s2W!

I expect many users will be aware of this information, but just in case you aren't.
Anyone overclocking should be aware that this will usually lead to higher power consumption which leads to more heat produced and lower battery life.
Especially if it is necessary to overvolt to acheive higher clock frequencies with stability.
Power consumption is proportional to Voltage squared, so small increases in core coltage can result in larger increases in power consumption than mught be thought.
Needless to say this can have negative impacts on battery discharge time and overall life (due to higher temperatures).
Plus there may be some throttling back of frequency if high temperatures are reached. Also possible that frequency may be reduced to 1Ghz maximum when battery voltage is low (i.e when discharged)
Hope this is helpful (first post here)

paul_59 said:
I expect many users will be aware of this information, but just in case you aren't.
Anyone overclocking should be aware that this will usually lead to higher power consumption which leads to more heat produced and lower battery life.
Especially if it is necessary to overvolt to acheive higher clock frequencies with stability.
Power consumption is proportional to Voltage squared, so small increases in core coltage can result in larger increases in power consumption than mught be thought.
Needless to say this can have negative impacts on battery discharge time and overall life (due to higher temperatures).
Plus there may be some throttling back of frequency if high temperatures are reached. Also possible that frequency may be reduced to 1Ghz maximum when battery voltage is low (i.e when discharged)
Hope this is helpful (first post here)
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CPU throttle starts at 85c with thermal TJ-max of 99c.
also there is many debates about this, higher speed need more power which drains battery, but that said it means work gets faster meaning it can idle faster saving power, same the other side slower speeds save power but take longer to get work done using more power.
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stefan063 said:
Can someone tell me where I can find over-clock able kernel for my international One X? And what is the biggest clock speed on ONE X?
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Go to Faux123 and read the opening post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1647993
it will teach you about Tegra 3 variants.
Flash Faux123 latest kernel to know what variant you have.
You can have 1.5ghz quadcore minimum, except if you have the poor variant0 of the Tegra 3, and 1.6ghz quadcore max if you have variant 3
So the overclocking you can achieve depends on your Tegra 3 variant, whatever the kernel, don't trust the figures in kernel threads titles, they just give the max if you have variant 3. And the majority of people have variant 1 so limited to 1.5ghz quadcore and there's nothing to do about it, no future kernel can change the way your CPU was manufactured.
Just, SetCPU can display 1.6ghz or more, but if you have variant 0 or 1 it will never use it (CPUspy will say 1550 and 1600 are unused frequencies)
Variant 1 can go upt to 1550mhz but not for quadcore, so who cares....! Same for kernels claiming up to 1.7ghz, it's in single/dual core, so once more, who cares?
What is important is what max speed you can achieve in quadcore, nothing else, and the limits are clearly defined by your Tegra3 variant
"all chips are not created equal" was a silly bull**** invented more than one year ago as an easy answer to noobs claiming they couldn't overclock their dual core at their max. Now, on the One-X and because of Nvidia unstable quality"all chips are not created equal" is sadly the truth.
PS: wrong=> to say that overclocking means more voltage, undervolting a custom kernel a little can surprisingly reduce heat when you push your CPU to its max,I can have both 1500mhz quadcore and less voltage than stock, as well as less heat (I was surprised, really, on the Sensation I had always found undervolting kinda useless)
PPS: true=> thermal throttle will always come pretty soon and reduce your max speed......

i900frenchaddict said:
Go to Faux123 and read the opening post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1647993
it will teach you about Tegra 3 variants.
Flash Faux123 latest kernel to know what variant you have.
You can have 1.5ghz quadcore minimum, except if you have the poor variant0 of the Tegra 3, and 1.6ghz quadcore max if you have variant 3
So the overclocking you can achieve depends on your Tegra 3 variant, whatever the kernel, don't trust the figures in kernel threads titles, they just give the max if you have variant 3. And the majority of people have variant 1 so limited to 1.5ghz quadcore and there's nothing to do about it, no future kernel can change the way your CPU was manufactured.
Just, SetCPU can display 1.6ghz or more, but if you have variant 0 or 1 it will never use it (CPUspy will say 1550 and 1600 are unused frequencies)
Variant 1 can go upt to 1550mhz but not for quadcore, so who cares....! Same for kernels claiming up to 1.7ghz, it's in single/dual core, so once more, who cares?
What is important is what max speed you can achieve in quadcore, nothing else, and the limits are clearly defined by your Tegra3 variant
"all chips are not created equal" was a silly bull**** invented more than one year ago as an easy answer to noobs claiming they couldn't overclock their dual core at their max. Now, on the One-X and because of Nvidia unstable quality"all chips are not created equal" is sadly the truth.
PS: wrong=> to say that overclocking means more voltage, undervolting a custom kernel a little can surprisingly reduce heat when you push your CPU to its max,I can have both 1500mhz quadcore and less voltage than stock, as well as less heat (I was surprised, really, on the Sensation I had always found undervolting kinda useless)
PPS: true=> thermal throttle will always come pretty soon and reduce your max speed......
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Nice words and I just won't to add variant 1 can now go to 1.55ghz with faux 07vf I'm currently usein with the lowest most stable undervolt values and less heat than stock kernel and gameplay is amazing also on arhd 9.4
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treebill said:
CPU throttle starts at 85c with thermal TJ-max of 99c.
also there is many debates about this, higher speed need more power which drains battery, but that said it means work gets faster meaning it can idle faster saving power, same the other side slower speeds save power but take longer to get work done using more power.
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Your argument makes sense, but unless the governor is very efficient at controlling the CPU speed very quickly, in most cases your argument doesn’t hold true. For example when playing a game or running a CPU intensive application (where overclocking has any use) the processor works at full speed for the duration of the application.
EDIT: Frankly I don’t see any point in overclocking a phone like One X. I don’t play many games, but the few games I have played ran very smoothly. And if people are overclocking because of the (barely noticeable) laggy UI then overclocking is not a real fix anyway. Installing a custom ROM (perhaps JB), a different launcher, tweaking background apps/services are some of the more sensible and effective things to do instead.
No disrespect to the devs who are working on overclocking, but IMO HTC and nVidia must have spent a considerable amount of time and effort designing the CPU and deciding the optimal operational parameters to maximize performance while minimizing battery drain. Therefore anything out of those parameters (in theory at least) should impact either stability, or battery life. Perhaps the values HTC has decided are not the maximum possible values , because I assume they would have designed the phone to handle few exceptional conditions (i.e: extremely hot weathers). But I think over clocking would probably cause more problems in the long run than whatever the little gains you experience in short term. Just my 2c.

joewong1991 said:
Nice words and I just won't to add variant 1 can now go to 1.55ghz with faux 07vf I'm currently usein with the lowest most stable undervolt values and less heat than stock kernel and gameplay is amazing also on arhd 9.4
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Late reply, I hope you'll read it anyway
I tried faux 007b5, so overclock free too, I had 1.55ghz indeed, but never for quadcore, just for single or dual. Sadly I wasn't able to reach 1.5ghz quadcore but 1.4
With 007u, I have 1.5ghz quadcore, but 1.55 is an unused frequency
Can you check, with tegrastats, if you reach 1.55ghz quadcore or only for 1,2 (or3??) cores?

i900frenchaddict said:
Late reply, I hope you'll read it anyway
I tried faux 007b5, so overclock free too, I had 1.55ghz indeed, but never for quadcore, just for single or dual. Sadly I wasn't able to reach 1.5ghz quadcore but 1.4
With 007u, I have 1.5ghz quadcore, but 1.55 is an unused frequency
Can you check, with tegrastats, if you reach 1.55ghz quadcore or only for 1,2 (or3??) cores?
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I tried tegrastats and I got 1.55 4 cores for about 20 sec and then 2 shut of and then ran 2 at 1150 playin dead trigger and on cod zombies 2 cores at 1350 witch I find strange faux 0105b
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