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Does anyone know if there are plans for MIUI to be released on the Motorola Defy? I am using this Rom on my Desire and would very much love to use it on my Defy aswell...
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Korbi
To be honest, i dont see it happening. I would love for this to be ported but i think the defy only has 2 devs and they are both working on other projects. Needless to say, i would also like to run that rom on my pos vibrant haha.
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That doesnt sound to promissing
But lets hope that the community of the defy will grow in the future - after all its a realy new device...
And MIUI lifts the "android-experience" to a hole new level, so i will keep my fingers crossed!
Miui is nice, I used to flash it on my desire, and it appears incredibly stable, except after a few days it gets buggy, fc's etc. I imagine it would be worse on the defy
It is quite a relief to just to have a phone that works without the constant, addictive - flash, restore, backup and wait for bugs and the next rom that may our may not fix them...process.
Froyo and gb would be great, but not essential- I am only missing flash (which barely worked anyway), jit, a few apps and my main want is the battery improvements in gb.
superfastmonkey said:
Miui is nice, I used to flash it on my desire, and it appears incredibly stable, except after a few days it gets buggy, fc's etc. I imagine it would be worse on the defy
It is quite a relief to just to have a phone that works without the constant, addictive - flash, restore, backup and wait for bugs and the next rom that may our may not fix them...process.
Froyo and gb would be great, but not essential- I am only missing flash (which barely worked anyway), jit, a few apps and my main want is the battery improvements in gb.
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On my Desire MIUI runs very smooth. But of course you have to keep in mind, that it is still in beta phase. The final version is suppossed to be released in january. Than there wont be weekly releases...
And I cant imagine MIUI not running on the defy...
To all 2.2 android rom users: I'd like to know which are the main differences between these two releases (considering an upgrade).
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http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-2.2-highlights.html
Note that certain individual features may not be supported at maker's discretion.
Thanks for the link, already saw it, but I'd like to ear direct feedback from users .
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I don't know but differences between official update with motoblur is that:
Windows vista 64 bit is android 2.1
Windows 7 64 bit is android 2.2
Hope you understand this !
Real differences I have found is speed, market downloads you can update all, flash full version for browsing, thats about it really.
shad0wboss said:
I don't know but differences between official update with motoblur is that:
Windows vista 64 bit is android 2.1
Windows 7 64 bit is android 2.2
Hope you understand this !
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Even if I use debian I understand what you mean, so is it really that better!?
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I had to upgrade by accident.
It's been 48 hours...
Definitely a better experience than Eclair.
You get Profiles (Like HTC Scenes) now, Flash, A2SD, Snappier performance, and probably a whole lot of other things I haven't had time to notice yet...
psixda said:
Even if I use debian I understand what you mean, so is it really that better!?
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adding to what was previously said:
New Gmail app
Push to phone API (chrome to phone, install from web market, etc)
Different memory/task managment
... + some little improvment overall the system.
better, yes, but worths the trouble to get it on your defy? only you can answer that.
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Even if I use debian I understand what you mean, so is it really that better!?
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Totally mate, it is hell fast and 2.3 is even faster plus you get other things with 2.2 such as full flash support, better performace and speed of course. You can feel it wen playing games and when the benchmark scores double the benchmakrs when running 2.1
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better, yes, but worths the trouble to get it on your defy? only you can answer that.
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That's the point. Probably I'll wait for Motorola official update, since I use this phone for work and I don't want to mess it up. Anyway glad to know newer versions are faster .
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Just to add my thoughts...
The biggest difference I have seen between 2.1 and 2.2 is a reduction in battery life.
On 2.1, both the original 2.21 that my handset came with and the 2.34 Blur-lite ROM I flashed, I could easily get 2 days of what I consider 'normal' usage between charges, 3 days if I really didn't use it much.
With 2.2, I've only seen a day or so of 'normal' use before needing to charge and that's having used Higgsy's modified build on top of the Chinese Froyo sbf and the new Orange Blur-lite ROM too.
Beyond that, the only noticeable difference IMO is the addition of flash in the browser.
So step666 you noticed:
- less battery life
- overall performances not increased
- added flash support
That's not what I'm looking for.
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psixda said:
That's the point. Probably I'll wait for Motorola official update, since I use this phone for work and I don't want to mess it up. Anyway glad to know newer versions are faster .
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I didn't notice that the battery is running out faster on 2.2, I think it can last 2-day based on the remaining capacity at night (I charge every night) on normal usage.
But if you're using this for work I seriously discourage you to mess it up. Although if you flash those .sbf I suppose it's pretty simple but still... You understand.
There are some apps that doesn't support pre-2.2, BTW.
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So step666 you noticed:
- less battery life
- overall performances not increased
- added flash support
That's not what I'm looking for.
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What exactly are you looking for then?
kiladubz said:
What exactly are you looking for then?
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Guys, stop flashing custom roms and confusing other people, custom rom does have 2.2 but it's custom and it prolly overclocks the cpu at high voltage which can be a reason for you to have battery drainage.
We yet can't say anything about 2.2 update because we haven't recieved it officially just yet. What i said in my previous posts is by looking at other phones such as Samsung Galaxy S (quite similar to defy cpu wise) and then when i looked at benchmakrs (performace) of it running on 2.1 and 2.2, there was a great difference and in 2.2 it performed quite well.
So don't consider custom roms as real updates, they are totally modified with tons of changes.
Right now, we don't even know if the stock speed of official update for defy is 1GHZ or 800MHZ...and if it's 1GHZ then i believe the battery will run out faster but we just can't say anything unless we get the official update OR a user who already had the official motorola update on defy (o2 germany users) can actually tell us the difference between 2.1 and 2.2
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So step666 you noticed:
- less battery life
- overall performances not increased
- added flash support
That's not what I'm looking for.
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With regards to performance, my Defy performed well enough under 2.1 that I haven't noticed any difference.
That's not to say that Froyo hasn't necessarily improved matters, just that I haven't seen any practical difference so far - benchmarks are all well and good but they don't make any difference to how a phone works on a day-to-day basis.
shad0wboss said:
Guys, stop flashing custom roms and confusing other people, custom rom does have 2.2 but it's custom and it prolly overclocks the cpu at high voltage which can be a reason for you to have battery drainage.
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You're guessing and you're wrong.
Firstly, when I did flash a custom ROM, true enough it came with the means to allow you to overclock the CPU but it wasn't automatically activated, you still had to do that yourself.
Secondly, as I said before, I've tried more than one Froyo ROM and the on I'm using now is not a custom ROM but the battery life is still just as poor.
Step666 said:
With regards to performance, my Defy performed well enough under 2.1 that I haven't noticed any difference.
That's not to say that Froyo hasn't necessarily improved matters, just that I haven't seen any practical difference so far - benchmarks are all well and good but they don't make any difference to how a phone works on a day-to-day basis.
You're guessing and you're wrong.
Firstly, when I did flash a custom ROM, true enough it came with the means to allow you to overclock the CPU but it wasn't automatically activated, you still had to do that yourself.
Secondly, as I said before, I've tried more than one Froyo ROM and the on I'm using now is not a custom ROM but the battery life is still just as poor.
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Maybe your cpu is running on different voltage? because OS has got nothing to do with battery life tbh lol
you can have millions of programs running in the background because of your custom rom?
Maybe I spoke too soon...
I don't know what's changed but I'm ~32 houes since charging my handset and have (according to DefyBatt) 55% of my battery left.
The battery's not new, so I don't get why it would need to bed in on the new ROM, yet that seems to be the key
For me, the biggest difference is the new apps that require 2.2 - primarily Chrome To Phone, which I love.
Other than that, 2.2 is faster than stock 2.1, but if you had JIT enabled on 2.1, then the difference isn't huge.
I haven't noticed any difference in battery life.
Basically, it's a minor performance boost, and the ability to use some programs which I couldn't with 2.1.
Hey guys i'm planning to buy motorola defy in next month. As i've to stick to this phone for 3 years i want to ask you some questions or clear my doubt. 1. Will this phone get android 2.2? 2. If I flashed with custom rom of 2.2 will adobe flash 10.1 work on it? 3. Is flashing this phone difficult or easy? 4. What about its sound quality? Is it better than galaxy 3 or nokia 5800xm? 5. Will HD games work on this device?
1,2,5: yes
3: easy
4: don't know, didn't have those phones to test the Defy against
There are a few 2.2 leaked ROMs, I'm using one myself and flash is running smoothly. The official update will be released in the second half of this month
Sound quality is good. The Defy is in every respect technically a high-end phone, comparable to Galaxy s i9000, HTC Desire HD.
Galaxy 3 is rather medium-class.
The only negative points IMO are that the screen is very reflective in sunlight and the camera could be better.
And battery performance is VERY unpredictable!!
You mean battery life not good?
Battery life is good comparing to other android phones. It is 2~3 days for normal use.
yes, the screen is a bit reflective, but if you set it bright enough, it's very nice! and battery performance is quite good, i get about 2 days with some gaming and 3G/wifi constantly on! the only thing i'm missing from this phone is full multitouch, as it has only two point mt, which can be disturbing in some games (like tap tap revenge). otherwise it's a very good phone, with great overclock/undervolt potential!
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questions regarding DEFY
I heard that defy bootloader is locked hence custom rom is not possible for defy then how come custom roms are available in dev thread?
They're not true custom ROMs, they're just standard ones with some of the stock apps removed and others pre-loaded.
The bootloader is locked and that's why, for example, CyanogenMod isn't available for the Defy or Gingerbread.
Thank's Guys!
I'll buy a defy tomorrow, and this answers helped me to make my choice (principally
the battery time).
you wont go far wrong with this phone. performance/price wise, i think this is one of the best in the market right now
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you wont go far wrong with this phone. performance/price wise, i think this is one of the best in the market right now
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i agree. great device. the phone is basically a screen and feels light like a dummy phone!
Its one of the smallest android phones with a decent screen.
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My defy has arrived
I'm very excited with the cel. Very satisfying.
time to root and install some custom ROMS!!
Step666 said:
They're not true custom ROMs, they're just standard ones with some of the stock apps removed and others pre-loaded.
The bootloader is locked and that's why, for example, CyanogenMod isn't available for the Defy or Gingerbread.
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there is someone with cynogenmod 7 for defy in dev thread, how could it be possible then...really confused about defys potential & ability for custom roms..
One question: what is the last oficial android version? Here in brazil, the last available is 2.1...
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2.2 is already out, ans cm7 using 2.3 will probably get a final stable release version soon
I'm curently running CM7(beta 3) and it's doing pretty well.
Though there are still some things to be fixed, it is definitely an increase of performance and battery life, and will be worth of updating once it is fully stable.
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I heard that defy bootloader is locked hence custom rom is not possible for defy then how come custom roms are available in dev thread?
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Most of'em are, as abovesaid, pretty much customized standart ROMs.
However, 2nd Init "hack" was recently intoruced, which kinda bypasses locked bootloader. Hence CM7 goodness.
At least you don't have to worry a single bit using DEFy in the rain
Hi guys. I bought a Xperia Arc (LT15i) last year, SIM-Unlocked, T-mobile branded and lots of bloatware.The experience so far couldn't be better. I love the UI and the camera is great. Since the very beginning it has being laggy, but it was bearable. Recently I updated to ICS hoping I would get a bit faster. At the beginning it was nice, but now it crashes a lot, and I can hardly avoid throwing it to a wall. Moreover battery lasts 8 hours with hardly use, which is very annoying as I have to go everywhere with cables and chargers (not sure if the battery is actually working well. I haven't tested it or used a brand new one).
I would like to flash a good and stable rom, if possible with JB. Which one would you recommend. I unlocked once the bootloader, but I didn't really want a custom rom at the moment, but the ICS stock one, so I relocked in order to get it. Not sure if that was the best thing to do, but it was running at quite a decent speed. Now it is very very laggy (even doing trivial things such as searching a contact!!!), and when I got my sony smartwatch, the battery drain was overwhelming.
I want something smooth, a custom ROM would be very welcomed. I read about Jelly Sandwich. Seems really nice, but since I don't want have the time to read all the posts, can anybody tell me if there's any problem connecting to the smartwatch in a custom ROM? Also, some comments regarding performance and battery drain on such ROM would be very much appreciated.
I don't have any game installed, since the available storage is very limited (I have like 39 mb left). I use mail a lot, chat applications (such as whatsapp, IMO, talk, etc.), facebook and twitter.
I really want to get the most out of it before I buy myself another phone (Xperia V, maybe?).
Thanks in avance, a newbie.
I recomend you X Gamer or another GB Rom as Arconium 8.2, because JB and ICS will make your device slower cause they need more resources to run ok. If you want smoothness my recomendation is to use X-Gamer Rom from OmenHTX. Im using it right now and its go flashy
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Hi guys. I bought a Xperia Arc (LT15i) last year, SIM-Unlocked, T-mobile branded and lots of bloatware.The experience so far couldn't be better. I love the UI and the camera is great. Since the very beginning it has being laggy, but it was bearable. Recently I updated to ICS hoping I would get a bit faster. At the beginning it was nice, but now it crashes a lot, and I can hardly avoid throwing it to a wall. Moreover battery lasts 8 hours with hardly use, which is very annoying as I have to go everywhere with cables and chargers (not sure if the battery is actually working well. I haven't tested it or used a brand new one).
I would like to flash a good and stable rom, if possible with JB. Which one would you recommend. I unlocked once the bootloader, but I didn't really want a custom rom at the moment, but the ICS stock one, so I relocked in order to get it. Not sure if that was the best thing to do, but it was running at quite a decent speed. Now it is very very laggy (even doing trivial things such as searching a contact!!!), and when I got my sony smartwatch, the battery drain was overwhelming.
I want something smooth, a custom ROM would be very welcomed. I read about Jelly Sandwich. Seems really nice, but since I don't want have the time to read all the posts, can anybody tell me if there's any problem connecting to the smartwatch in a custom ROM? Also, some comments regarding performance and battery drain on such ROM would be very much appreciated.
I don't have any game installed, since the available storage is very limited (I have like 39 mb left). I use mail a lot, chat applications (such as whatsapp, IMO, talk, etc.), facebook and twitter.
I really want to get the most out of it before I buy myself another phone (Xperia V, maybe?).
Thanks in avance, a newbie.
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If u want to use your devices faster, your battery life time may lower. So, trying a custom rom which developer claimed how much fast their rom, sure the battery will drain faster. If u want to use battery longer, your phone performance will also slower. So try using the stock rom is the best as the sony developer team balanced all the properties. I would like to recommend you one thing is to use app like Advance Task Killer (for fast performance & battery lift) and Link2SD (for storage performance problem). And also Rom Toolbox Pro app. With this app, you can stop unwanted app from auto running. This can greatly reduce memory usage.
Good Luck Guy,
Hi Guys and Gals,
First post here for me =) so ya new noob in town. And before i get blasted, I tried searching for something of a similar nature but the search was down and because i am looking to pick this up tomorrow for £100, thought i would post. If there is a similar post and you are privy to the url, please post below =)
Like everyone here no ICS is disappointing however the fact that GB seems to run the phone in general better, is there any real reason to upgrade the OS on this particular device?
I am aware custom ROM's for ICS and i believe JB? are available, but do these hinder, performance, compatibility, the game pad use, camera? What is the disadvantage is there to upgrading via custom ROM?
Sony puts a wealth of bloatware on their devices, but I'm told that the Walkman, Sony Movie among others actually are useful apps and are liked among the community. Do we get the option of keeping these?
In Feb/March i will be looking to get a Nexus 4, so this phone will be a secondary in the end. However how does it hold it self for web browsing and gaming? I know the resolution is pretty low for today's standards, but i am seriously considering it. Obviously if i could upgrade the OS version and keep full functionality that would be ideal, but i have seen no such confirmed reports.
Finally with the above mentioned, is there still enough support from developers to purchase this? or should i just wait and save the money for the nexus come feb? Any constructive input would be appreciated, and please if your going to bash it, follow it up with a reason that is not Sony is Lazy and because this phone is rubbish.
Thanks everyone
Chaosprime
GB is the most stable and offers the best performance for games. The disadvantage is that you'll lose your warranty. I really like the new features ICS brought, but I'm going to keep on GB, just because I use it for gaming a lot.
ridder215215 said:
GB is the most stable and offers the best performance for games. The disadvantage is that you'll lose your warranty. I really like the new features ICS brought, but I'm going to keep on GB, just because I use it for gaming a lot.
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Warranty isnt a issue as its second hand over a year old anyway. so upgrading to ICS or JB from what ive been reading around the site removes game pad or touch pad use. does g2ics or was it G2JB? this from what i gathered remains on the GB kernal but imports ICS/JB features? Does this also remove pad functionality? shouldnt if its still on the GB kernal?
My main use will be for gaming (no brainer ) and web browsing, till i get my Nexus anyway then web browsing will be on that.So for gaming purposes stick to GB, leaving GB will only worsen the gaming capabilities on the device?
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Warranty isnt a issue as its second hand over a year old anyway. so upgrading to ICS or JB from what ive been reading around the site removes game pad or touch pad use. does g2ics or was it G2JB? this from what i gathered remains on the GB kernal but imports ICS/JB features? Does this also remove pad functionality? shouldnt if its still on the GB kernal?
My main use will be for gaming (no brainer ) and web browsing, till i get my Nexus anyway then web browsing will be on that.So for gaming purposes stick to GB, leaving GB will only worsen the gaming capabilities on the device?
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Yes, leaving Gingerbread will most likely not be beneficial for the gaming experience, as the newer versions of Android are more demanding in terms of processing power and ram memory. Gin2ICS and Gin2JB are Gingerbread roms with an ICS or JB theme and some features, so it will be very close to the performance of stock Gingerbread. You will still be able to use the touchpads. I have read that there is a fix for the gamepads on Ice Cream Sandwich, not sure about Jellybean though.
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Yes, leaving Gingerbread will most likely not be beneficial for the gaming experience, as the newer versions of Android are more demanding in terms of processing power and ram memory. Gin2ICS and Gin2JB are Gingerbread roms with an ICS or JB theme and some features, so it will be very close to the performance of stock Gingerbread. You will still be able to use the touchpads. I have read that there is a fix for the gamepads on Ice Cream Sandwich, not sure about Jellybean though.
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Thanks so much. The Gin2ICS sounds sweet if the slide out controller has full functionality.
OK so i found the following links which i thought was useful. Have you had a look or attempt at these?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1854682
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1828902
Seems to have everything and erything fully functional and running smoothly. Might be worth a try? If one was to flash their device and didnt like the result, could they revert to stock without difficulty? or would they need to manually find the stock files off the internet?
Thanks
Chaosprime
The rom does seem like it's running okay, especially with the drivers, but they seem to be included in the rom:
Changelog:
New Bin files ( higher preformence and game combatiblity )
New Andreo Drivers for 2xx
Increase Ram without swapper implement
New Framework files ( increase Preformence and gamecompatiblity )
New Lib Files ( increase Preformence; app and gamecompatiblity )
New Sony ICS Gamepad and Touchpad drivers ( get it from Sony )
New Build.prop ( be not afraight there are 2.3.4 at build.prop its for game Compatiblity and Apps Compatiblity they was Xperia Play Optimized )
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Might be worth a try.
To get back to stock you can flash a .ftf file, plenty of guides about that on this forum.