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Hi all,
Just upgrading to new Imate ROM. Now it seems that Universal has push email can anyone recommend an Exchange SP2 direct push email provider for consumer market? Many thanks for taking the time to read.
Tom C (UK) :lol:
The onlyone I know for the moment is 4smartphone.net - if you find any better (means cheaper), let me know!
Some report are saying 4smartphone.net takes 30 seconds to push an email to your device, rather than 5 seconds or less that others are getting via their own exchange servers.
Its worth asking these website exchange account providers what frequency they run the push 'heartbeat' at - you might end up with a big bill if they haven't set the Exchange/firewall to a reasonable rate.
Device SMS Address
I've just signed up for the 4smartphone trial, but Orange are completely unable to tell me what the Device SMS Address should be. They don't have a clue what this is about. I was guessing [email protected], but that doesn't work.
Does anyone know what it should be?
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rossp said:
I've just signed up for the 4smartphone trial, but Orange are completely unable to tell me what the Device SMS Address should be. They don't have a clue what this is about. I was guessing [email protected], but that doesn't work.
Does anyone know what it should be?
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If you're using the aku2 rom then you don't need an sms address. The MSFP/Direct Push works via http not sms. Waaaaaay better!
Settings
I think it is that version. I'm using the new ROM version 1.30.68 with Radio version 1.09.00. I can see the push mail icon in Comm Manager, but it's greyed out, so I'm not sure where to go from here. The 4smartphone support pages are not exactly informative.
Can anyone point me to a website about setting this up? My searches are not getting me far.
Thanks.
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jdee246 said:
rossp said:
I've just signed up for the 4smartphone trial, but Orange are completely unable to tell me what the Device SMS Address should be. They don't have a clue what this is about. I was guessing [email protected], but that doesn't work.
Does anyone know what it should be?
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If you're using the aku2 rom then you don't need an sms address. The MSFP/Direct Push works via http not sms. Waaaaaay better!
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Is the AKU2 ROM available?
Where?
Thanks
Steve
Its a test aku2 universal rom...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=42743
Got it working
Just need to ignore the instructions on the 4smartphone web page about SMS Device.
From the moment of clicking send on my Desktop to the email arriving in my device inbox the time taken is about 25 secs, which includes gmail forwarding it to the 4smartphone address.
4smartPhone Help!!
Glad to hear that you got the SMS problem sorted which help me out too. I can now sync with contacts but what do I do for the email. Do I have to set an account up on WM5 which I have done but there is no push coming through I have to manually send and receive. Any help much welcome. Thanks
You need to set it up using active sync in WM5. You will need to add a server (secure.4smartphone.net) then your username, password and domain (4smartphone). It will then sync using the GPRS connection.
I've got Outlook desktop, Outlook Web Access (with smartphone) and Outlook on WM5 all synchronizing nicely. My only problem is that I have three pop email account on Outlook desktop, but 4smartphone only seems to work with one.
And just to add the obvious, you need to have email being forward to the address that you got @smartphone.com
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rossp said:
I've just signed up for the 4smartphone trial, but Orange are completely unable to tell me what the Device SMS Address should be. They don't have a clue what this is about. I was guessing [email protected], but that doesn't work.
Does anyone know what it should be?
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4Smartphone.net are US based, where email to SMS is very common. It took the Americans about three years to wake up to the fact that everyone else in the world has to pay for SMS messages to be sent - hence the new push technology from Microsoft.
What they are referring to is a feature known as AUTD (always up to date) which is how Exchange used to do push. A specially created SMS text message would be sent to your phone which told your device that something had changed, and it would then do a sync.
I am told that it worked very well - it is just unfortunate that for everyone outside of the USA the feature would cost many thousands to run for each single user.
Simon.
4smartPhone Help!!
Thanks for your quick reply. I have forwarding set up and all the correct settings for Active Syn in WM5, UserName, Password, Domain and Save password. Under the Options in ActiveSync there now appears and Exchange Server with the following selected Contacts, Calendar, E-Mail, Tasks.
I'm still not sure though what to do with the email all the above are syncing via 3g. In the Messages section do I have to create a new account and if so what are the correct setting for this?
Thanks again for the help and suggestions.
Tom C.
When it syncs with the Exchange server it automatically goes into the Outlook email inbox on your device. If you've previously been synchronizing with the desktop it wipes out those emails, which is why I'm trying the Pro version of 4smartphone and synchronising all three.
Have you checked if test emails you are sending are reaching the 4smartphone email address? You can do that by logging into the web version of Outlook via the link on their website.
Also the push email icon in Com Manager should now be working and it will say Microsoft DirectPush at the top.
That may not be much help, but I am also completely new to this.
4smartPhone
Once again thanks for the help. Just about got it sorted as I read your reply. The missing link for me is that the you don't have to sent up a seperate email account I was looking for server addresses extra but all those go under ActiveSync. Getting mails fine now but not too sure yet about sending them. Are yours sending fine or is there a delay?
Thanks again, you are still once step ahead of me
I've got Push email working with mail2web.com and have a few questions:
I've gota couple of email addresses that won't forward to my mail2web email account and I don't really want to use mail2web's harvester as that only checks once every hour, so I was wondering whether it's possible to set Outlook on my PC to synce with my mail2web account so that my PC will download emails from my POP accounts, then upload them to my mail2web server, which then pushes the emails to my phone?
Or is there a simpler way to do it?
Also, when I reply to an email that's been pushed the reply address is always my mail2web email address, which is a pain as it confuses people and gets rejected by my email groups. How can I change the default address that my replies go from, or even just change them on each email as I reply?
I'm sure I'll have more questions soon.! Cheers.
paulrockliffe said:
Or is there a simpler way to do it?
Also, when I reply to an email that's been pushed the reply address is always my mail2web email address, which is a pain as it confuses people and gets rejected by my email groups. How can I change the default address that my replies go from, or even just change them on each email as I reply?
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Yup, use 4smartphones.net.
IT'S FOUR QUID A MONTH!
HI
i m using tmobie mda (usa) with the data plan and with the i can configure my pop3 email account on my phone and make to get the emails automaticaly after certain time
so then why do we need exchange server for
i mean i can be wrong too but if i m wrong can someone tell me the right thing
Thanks
I recommend Mail2Web, the simple setting and most important it is FREE.
Hi all,
Recently joined the world of PDA's after realising the smartphones werent really that smart or good at anything, just average at a bit of everything.
Got myself and MDA iii which is on my t-mobile contract. I also have a google mail account.
I've managed to set up my PDA to receive my gmail emails but I can't send, every time it's saying "Unable to connect to the outgoing mail server. Verify the server name is correcnt, then try again to send and receive mail."
But I'm receiving mail. Can anyone help. I'm glad I got this far to be honest, I'm a complete techno muppet normally!!!
Help
Mail has two sides to it, sending and receiving.
If you get your mail your pop settings are fine
If you dont get your mail your SMTP settings are NOT Fine.
Inorder that users do not use a smtp server for releying mail many porividers block the sending of mails if you are not on there network or need you to authenticate on that server.
here is a home example.
My PDA is connected over wifi to a ADSL from my internet provider FASTNET
My pop mail I get over wifi (thus the ADSL) from my pop provder POPMAIL.
Thus I am no the FASTnet Network and need to send via FASTNET smtp.
If I try to send over POPMAIL it wont work as it is blocked by POPMAIL as I am comming from a differnet network (that of FASTMAIL).
So set up your account over your network provider.
Hope that helps
You could also try the Gmail App midlet for checking/searching/sending mail. Go to gmail.com/app on your PDA, and try it out. You use the Midlet Manager to run it.
I really have no idea what the problem is here. I used to be able to send emails fine when I had WM 6.0 installed. I upgraded to Kavana's 6.1 ROM which automatically found imap settings for Yahoo Mail.
Now I cannot seem to send emails but I can receive them fine. Every once in a while maybe every couple days I will be able to get a message to send out. I have tried different areas of town, recreating the email setup, even reloading the ROM. Nothing seems to help.
It's getting very frustrating not being able to send emails when I've just read an urgent one I've received!
Current settings are:
Incoming: imap.mail.yahoo.com
Outgoing: smtp.mobile.mail.yahoo.com (with authentication)
Any help much appreciated!
Are you using tmobile, and have you configured your by going to accessories and connection setup.
dapopa9 said:
I really have no idea what the problem is here. I used to be able to send emails fine when I had WM 6.0 installed. I upgraded to Kavana's 6.1 ROM which automatically found imap settings for Yahoo Mail.
Now I cannot seem to send emails but I can receive them fine. Every once in a while maybe every couple days I will be able to get a message to send out. I have tried different areas of town, recreating the email setup, even reloading the ROM. Nothing seems to help.
It's getting very frustrating not being able to send emails when I've just read an urgent one I've received!
Current settings are:
Incoming: imap.mail.yahoo.com
Outgoing: smtp.mobile.mail.yahoo.com (with authentication)
Any help much appreciated!
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I've been having the EXACT same issues for the past 2 months! My outgoing Yahoo! mail worked fine for about 2-3 months (after flashing Kavana's 6.1), then all of a sudden none of my emails would go out. It's SOOO FRUSTRATING... I deleted my Yahoo! account, then set it up again. It worked for a day then went back to being crappy. It's gotta be an issue with Yahoo!'s outgoing servers, because Gmail works just fine via Dash.
Yes I have T-Mobile - forgot to mention that earlier - and Yes I have setup the data connection. Like I said before it works sometimes but usually it fails.
If I use the same setup on T-mobile's WM6 ROM it works fine. So something in Kavana's ROM is a little different. I have seen other postings on this forum and other forums with people having the same issue but never seen a resoltuion.
I have deleted, recreated, modified, manually setup, automatic setup, and used pretty much every configuration I could think of when setting this Yahoo! account up on Kavana's 6.1 but nothing works so far.
jdoggraz said:
Are you using tmobile, and have you configured your by going to accessories and connection setup.
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Actually I had that same problem with WM6. Whether or Not Emails would actually get sent was a crapshoot.so I used Y!Go
Funny you all mention this because I thought I was doing something wrong!
I had no problem with Yahoo at all until 6.1
Now I can't send OR receive mail..
Maybe Yahoo changed something?
Here's something that might help in this sending Yahoo! Mail problem. I found it out on the 'net; the solution has to do with the ports that Yahoo! uses to receive mail. I didn't want to post it until I had it running for at least a month without problems, and it seems to work.
Normally, Yahoo! uses port 25 to receive mail, but since that port is the most popular, it uses SPAM-screening routines on that port which ends up rejecting a lot of sending mail connections. But there are two other ports. One seemed to work really slow. But port 465 has worked for me for over a month, no problem at all, I can send every time.
Okay, so how to use it? Go into your Yahoo! email menu on your phone. Choose Tools > Options > Account Settings > Edit Account Setup. Press "Next" until you reach the "Outgoing (SMTP) mail server:" screen. Where it reads "smtp.mobile.mail.yahoo.com", add this at the end: ":465". (So the whole entry should read "smtp.mobile.mail.yahoo.com:465".) Go "Next" until you reach "Finish" then "Done." Then try it out.
I hope it works for you. Strangely enough, now I have occasional problems RECEIVING mail, but not sending. Oh, well, that I can live with.
- DF
XV6800 465 fix didnt work
the 465 fix didnt work with my XV6800 any other ideas?
even more weird...
I'm having the same problem, but it's only on one of my two yahoo accounts that will not send. Everthing was working fine until the upgrade to Rickywatt WM6.1. I have two different yahoo (well really SBCGLOBAL.net) accounts a business one and a personal one. I have been over them with a fine toothed comb and the settings are exactly the same, but only one of them is sending. They are both receiving just fine, but only one can send emails.
How weird is that?? I tried the 465 port change and I still get an error to "Be certain you have network coverage and try again" I'm stumped!
this should help man, i found the fix and posted it in another forum but this will do the trick.
anyone who has been having problems sending emails from yahoo or any other account try this fix, straight from our good buddies at microsoft....
(9th download on the list dated 11/12/2008)
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en
Link is sending me to the wrong place
If I did this right. There is a cab file attached at the bottom somewhere that fixed my email. It is from microsoft and it's called "Windows Mobile 6.1 Hot Fix for Sending POP and IMAP E-mail" The link in the earlier post was taking me somewhere else. I hope this link takes you to the right place:http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=D9D71B2E-D2DD-44F2-86E5-1E53AAD7FB7A&displaylang=en
So far this has worked for me and Rickywatt version of WM6.1...I don't know if this will work on anything but WM6.1. There is a PC(msi) version and a CAB version. I used the cab version. Hope this helps others out too.
This cab seems incompatable with NightRavens 6.1 ROM.
I also have had similar issues with Yahoo setup in 6.1. The dropdown box that should allow for a choice between IMAP4 and POP3 is grayed out - it is not an option. So they force you to use IMAP4 when seemingly none of the server settings work correctly. Has anyone has any luck with IMAP4 settings in Yahoo?
pop mail sending problems
If you know how to modify the registry then you don't need the cab. It's really easy, and one of the posts linked to the exact instructions. A few months ago I tried to get this made into a sticky since it affects everyone with the 6.1 ROMs, and not being able to send email is a pretty major problem, but the XDA admins didn't seem to think it warranted a sticky. Lame.
Anyway, here's what you do:
It is fixed by adding a registry key called "Operator" (without the quotes) to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\Inbox\Settings\
Then, inside the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\Inbox\Settings\Operator key you add a String Value named "OutgoingServer" with value "127.0.0.1" (again, both without the quotes.) A soft reset should be done after saving this.
See more in my original post at:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2845898#post2845898
Incoming and Outgoing Mail Server Settings for Hotmail, Yahoo! Mail, GMail, AOL and more
the Google Gmail service offers a SMTP server (outgoing mail server) for Gmail accounts. To use the Google Gmail SMTP server, use the following information:
Google Gmail Outgoing Mail Server (SMTP): smtp.gmail.com
The Gmail SMTP server requires authentication (use the same settings as for the incoming mail server)
The Google Gmail SMTP Server requires an encrypted connection (SSL) on port 465.
Why & when do I need these settings?
Hotmail, Yahoo! Mail, GMail and other providers are basically email services designed to provide you with email mailbox accesss directly from the web. However, going online and logging on to their sites is not always the most convenient way for reading and sending emails.
On the other hand, you have the alternative to send and receive emails through such a mailbox by using a local email client software, such as Outlook Express, Microsoft Outlook, Thunderbird, Thunderbird, etc. In order to properly use it, you need to configure your email software with the incoming and outgoing mail servers of your email provider (Hotmail, Gmail, Yahoo! Mail or else).
Mail Server Settings
Hotmail Settings
As other web based email services, Hotmail is using the HTTP protocol for connecting you to your mailbox. If you want to send and receive Hotmail emails using an email client software, then your software must support Hotmail HTTP access for your email account. Some email clients, such as Outlook Express or Microsoft Outlook, offer builtin support for Hotmail accounts, so you only have to select HTTP when you are asked to select your email account type and select Hotmail as the HTTP Mail Service Provider.
Yahoo! Mail Settings
Unlike Hotmail, Yahoo! Mail offers standard POP3 access for receiving emails incoming through your Yahoo mailbox, by using your favorite email client software. To setup your email client for working with your Yahoo account, you need to select the POP3 protocol and use the following mail server settings:
Yahoo Incoming Mail Server (POP3) - pop.mail.yahoo.com (port 110)
Yahoo Outgoing Mail Server (SMTP) - smtp.mail.yahoo.com (port 25)
Google GMail Settings
The Google GMail service offers email client access for retrieving and sending emails through your Gmail account. However, for security reasons, GMail uses POP3 over an SSL connection, so make sure your email client supports encrypted SSL connections.
Google Gmail Incoming Mail Server (POP3) - pop.gmail.com (SSL enabled, port 995)
Outgoing Mail Server - use the SMTP mail server address provided by your local ISP or smtp.gmail.com (SSL enabled, port 465)
Lycos Mail Settings
The Lycos Mail Plus service allows you to use POP3 and SMTP servers for accessing your Lycos mailbox.
Lycos Mail Incoming Mail Server (POP3) - pop.mail.lycos.com (port 110)
Outgoing Mail Server - smtp.mail.lycos.com or use your local ISP SMTP mail server
AOL Mail Settings
The AOL email service is a web based system, designed for managing your AOL mailbox via HTTP IMAP access. Unlike Hotmail, you can use any email client to access your AOL mailbox, as long as it supports the IMAP protocol.
AOL Incoming Mail Server (IMAP) - imap.aol.com (port 143)
AOL Outgoing Mail Server - smtp.aol.com or use your local ISP SMTP mail server
Mail.com Mail Settings
The Mail.com email service allows you to use POP3 and SMTP servers for accessing your Mail.com mailbox.
Mail.com Mail Incoming Mail Server (POP3) - pop1.mail.com (port 110)
Outgoing Mail Server - use your local ISP SMTP mail server
Netscape Internet Service Mail Settings
The Netscape e-mail system is web-based, which means you can access their e-mail from any Internet connection. Netscape Internet Service also supports AOL® Communicator, Microsoft® Outlook, Microsoft® Outlook Express, and other POP3 e-mail software. The outgoing mail server needs SSL support, so make sure your email client software supports SSL connections over the SMTP protocol.
Netscape Internet Service Incoming Mail Server (POP3) - pop.3.isp.netscape.com (port 110)
Netscape Internet Service Outgoing Mail Server - smtp.isp.netscape.com (port 25, using a secure SSL connection)
Tiscali Mail Settings
The Tiscali email service allows you to use POP3 and SMTP servers for accessing your Tiscali mailbox.
Tiscali Incoming Mail Server (POP3) - pop.tiscali.com (port 110)
Outgoing Mail Server - use your local ISP SMTP mail server
Freeserve Mail Settings
The Freeserve email service allows you to use POP3 and SMTP servers for accessing your Freeserve mailbox.
Freeserve Incoming Mail Server (POP3) - pop.freeserve.com (port 110)
Outgoing Mail Server - use your local ISP SMTP mail server
Supanet Mail Settings
The Supanet email service allows you to use POP3 and SMTP servers for accessing your Supanet mailbox.
Supanet Incoming Mail Server (POP3) - pop.supanet.com (port 110)
Outgoing Mail Server - use your local ISP SMTP mail server
If your email client does not support Hotmail as a Mail Service Provider or if it simply doesn't work with your mail server settings, you can use a 3rd party solution like Hotmail Popper, IzyMail, POP Peeper or Email2Pop. When using such tools, you should define your Hotmail account as a POP3 account and you will need to define your incoming mail server will as 'localhost' (or 127.0.0.1).
Even with that registry tweak I have run into outgoing Yahoo issues today with the plus.smtp.mail.yahoo.com:465 server. That has always worked for me in the past - incoming still OK.
OutgoingServer case sensitive?
I think the registry key name is case sensitive.
I assume you reset your phone after setting the registry. Is it possible that you changed the case on one or more of the letters in OutgoingServer? I think that the mail program ignores the key if the case is not exact.
It works!
Just adding here that this hot fix (URL below) worked for me when I needed to fix the broken outgoing mail function for Yahoo mail on an HTC 5800 using Windows 6.1 Mobile...
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...2E-D2DD-44F2-86E5-1E53AAD7FB7A&displaylang=en
(I first connected the HTC to my laptop, then downloaded the software hot fix to the laptop and it went from there straight to the phone.)
Bill S.
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I really have no idea what the problem is here. I used to be able to send emails fine when I had WM 6.0 installed. I upgraded to Kavana's 6.1 ROM which automatically found imap settings for Yahoo Mail.
Now I cannot seem to send emails but I can receive them fine. Every once in a while maybe every couple days I will be able to get a message to send out. I have tried different areas of town, recreating the email setup, even reloading the ROM. Nothing seems to help.
It's getting very frustrating not being able to send emails when I've just read an urgent one I've received!
Current settings are:
Incoming: imap.mail.yahoo.com
Outgoing: smtp.mobile.mail.yahoo.com (with authentication)
Any help much appreciated![/QUOTE]
heres my weird story, i have always had kavana 6.1 on this.. s621 i have right now the other day i read this tread and got gmail working thru outlook even tho i had gmail working thru set up email lol so didnt make sence but was just seeing if i could get outlook to do anything but anyhows i hard reset my 6.1 and when i went to set my email up thru outlook the outlook option was gone and still is lol... anyone know ? lol
So, my girlfriend and I both have the EVO 4G. I'm trying to setup her email for her college-John Jay, and I'm having problems with the outgoing. She called John Jay and they said it shouldn't matter which port we use for the outgoing, however it's not validating. The server is imap.jjay.cuny.edu, the incoming port is 143. To my knowledge I'm thinking that the port 25 for outgoing is restricted... is there anyway to get around this? Thanks!
try 587, that is usually used for encrypted smtp transmission
i did try 587, but that was with the pop... but i will try it later, thanks
update: i tried 587, no go, i think the problem is with the jjay server. they claim is doesn't matter what port we use, but it's not authorizing. the most i can get is the incoming working and no outgoing. of course, no one at john jay knows anything :/
Give port 465 a try too. If helpdesk is telling you port is irrelevant, they're idiots. Proper server and port are needed for functioning email - if either is incorrect, email will fail to send.
Most schools have a web page with outlook or generic pop/imap settings. Btw, do check the pop setting for outbound email. Imap is strictly for inbound, and has no affect on outbound.
ok so, it's not anything with android, it's the school. the server's all messed up and they're not providing any info on what it is. i tried setting up the email on outlook and it was the same thing, so no worries, got the incoming working, that's all that really matters.
Btw, you can use a DIFFERENT outbound server and still have it show your school email address (or whatever you want). Most(all?) smtp servers require authentication if you're not on their network. Once authenticated, it doesn't matter what the sending email address says.
Hey. Do you mind giving me the info for the outgoing server that the only part Im missing?
Ok, let's try to explain my goal:
my work email allows me outside intranet access if entering via phone browser only. Access setting up an exchange account doesn't work and forwarding email (to mail gmail) it's blocked. All my bosses own a company blackberry and they DO have email pushed to their phone. This morning a colleague (not a boss) whith his own (not company) blackberry has been able to have the email pushed to his phone, using standard exchange "procedure" (name, password, exchange server). We are a bunch of colleagues android/iphone equipped but nobody else never suceeded in this contest. This is really upsetting me! I'm thinking that trying to make my company server thinking I'm accessing via a blackberry should do the trick, but never read a similar request/tentative before. Plan B could be finding a (paid) service which could fetch via webmail my emails and then forward them to my gmail (as gmail fetcher isn't able to fetch via webmail) but couldn't find nothing similar on the net.
Hope to have explained properly... any idea?
Tks folks