[Q] "blackberry emulation" - Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking

Ok, let's try to explain my goal:
my work email allows me outside intranet access if entering via phone browser only. Access setting up an exchange account doesn't work and forwarding email (to mail gmail) it's blocked. All my bosses own a company blackberry and they DO have email pushed to their phone. This morning a colleague (not a boss) whith his own (not company) blackberry has been able to have the email pushed to his phone, using standard exchange "procedure" (name, password, exchange server). We are a bunch of colleagues android/iphone equipped but nobody else never suceeded in this contest. This is really upsetting me! I'm thinking that trying to make my company server thinking I'm accessing via a blackberry should do the trick, but never read a similar request/tentative before. Plan B could be finding a (paid) service which could fetch via webmail my emails and then forward them to my gmail (as gmail fetcher isn't able to fetch via webmail) but couldn't find nothing similar on the net.
Hope to have explained properly... any idea?
Tks folks

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Blackberry (Noobie) question

Hi Guys,
This Blackberry stuff everyone is chatting about is puzzling me..... :?
Now, I have never owned one, or for that matter seen one.. so my questions are:
1: What does this thing do that is so special?. I know you can get your emails delivered to it, but you can do this with the XDA via gprs/wifi.
2: What is this Blackberry plugin/software for the XDA(IIs)? does it give the same functionality as a Blackberry?
Sorry if I sound a little dumb, but I have never taken the time to look into this product and I thought this would be the ideal place for a sensible answer!
Thanks in advance chaps
The blackberry device is like a PDA, but with the ability to receive emails from a blackberry enterprise server (BES). This server pushes the emails to you as soon as the email arrives at the server. All email clients (by en large) query the server to see if there is email and the get it when the server says that there exists new email. With a blackberry you get the email instantly (no need to keep querying the server).
The blackberry software is supposed to allow you to get that push email access on your palm/pocket pc
personally I dont like RIM devices, they dont support non-latin characters, and I have no need for push email. My job doesnt pay me enough to have access to me 24/7
Thanks Admiral (Getting to be a habit this)
So the only real benefit is "Push" technology.....
Same here then, my job also does'nt pay me enough either! :lol:
Push email is very handy even if your job does not pay you enough to be on call 247! I spend a lot of time away from home, so use my XDA to check my personal emails as well as work! Although the IIs does not support (Yet!) blackberry you can try the duality software from Smartner. This is simple to use, and is the nearest thing to push email until the BB client becomes available. www.smartner.com
Hope that helps too.
Celtic
What is the benefit of 'push' email over simply polling your pop server every 'x' minutes?
xda-rocks said:
What is the benefit of 'push' email over simply polling your pop server every 'x' minutes?
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The smartner software polls the server every few mins. This costs me quite a bit over gprs, so I always connect manually when I need to. (I can change it to poll auto every 15, 30 60 mis etc.) BUT, with the smartner software it synchronises with my pop server, so if I delete from my pda it is also deleted from my pop server etc - this is what I like.
I was expecting the smartner software to have email "pushed" to it. But it seems to poll (like I said above) every few mins. Im not sure if this is "real" push email?
I have noticed Microsoft Messenger can stay connected for ages with very little data exchanged untill I get a message. I was expecting this to be the case with smartners push software.
Regards,
Ian Watson
The biggest benefits are for corporate email users...
1. Push email (faster and more efficient)
2. Calendar / unread mark synchronization
3. Attachment viewing (the most popular file formats are all supported)
There really is nothing else that is widely deployed that does these things (or at least does them well and is an excepted corporate standard).
In the absence of the Blackberry client software, I'm using IMAP mail, which I find to be ridiculously slow when compared to my old Blackberry handheld.
So all emails have to be routed through the BB server then?? (sorry im a bit ignorant in these matters). Just interested because I run my own email server in my office (mdaemon) and all email gets routed through that and distributed to the various people in my office, so if someone wanted to use blackberry we wouldnt be able to use our mail server as well??
If you want to access internal corporate push email you have to connect the Blackberry Enterprise Server to a mail server, it supports 3 mail servers: Microsoft Exchange, IBM Lotus Domino or Novell GroupWise. If you want to access Hotmail, AOL, IMAP or POP3 you have to use Blackberry Web Client on the device which I presume is pull.
The nice thing about blackberries is they support one-handed operation like a mobile phone and have a keyboard. PPC PE should really get it's act together in terms of one handed operation.
I've setup a cheapo version of "kind-of" push email - a perl script on a server that polls a POP3 mail server every 10 minutes and sends out a txt message with subject and some of the body, can't handle HTML emails yet though.

EMOZE Push E-mail

any of you guys come across this app.. it's for getting push e-mail without an ms exchange server.
question: has anyone got a way round applying this to hotmail? i think the trick is to get outlook to accept hotmail and then use this app.
also, i'm running on vista so this isn't yet compatible.. anyone aware of a similar app - i can use with my hotmail - that'll do the trick?
thanks guys..
Free push email
Hello, I've been using mail2web.com it's free and you don't have yo use outlook.
palmbluetooth said:
Hello, I've been using mail2web.com it's free and you don't have yo use outlook.
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But this doesn't support Hotmail does it?
I'm looking for a Hotmail solution... anyone?
Just forward you emails from hotmail to mail2web ..
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Just forward you emails from hotmail to mail2web ..
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sorry to be a pain... don't think i can forward my hotmail messages... can i?
are you able to explain how to do this and any implications?
cheers...
I have had a quick look at this app and it seems like a good thing to me - bearing in mind I've seen other push email accounts charging £15 a month.
I have a couple of questions though, someone here might know the answer.
AIUI the email is delivered over GPRS so you need to be connected all the time.
so the first question is what sort of data gets transferred if you are connected all the time but not actually downloading anything? for example if you look at your broadband connection, even when you are not using it, small amounts of data are sent/received periodically. over the course of the day this could quite easily add up!!
next question is, although I have an O2 Orbit, I'm not actually on O2. I have a temporary T-Mobile sim card while I wait to start my new job and they give me my new phone (I'll just take the sim out and put it in my orbit). I have only seen an option to set up the configuration for O2. Can the GPRS settings for other networks be entered manually? or will I have to remove all the O2 settings that are installed after a hard reset to enable me to do this? (not something I really want to do)
In answer to the other comments about mail2web and mail2wap. I have been using this site for years and years, the only thing is you have to connect to the web and then check your mail....you might not have any but you still have to pay to connect and transfer data. Hence the push email is a better idea as you KNOW you have mail as opposed to checking in case you MIGHT have some with mail2web.
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Hello, I've been using mail2web.com it's free and you don't have yo use outlook.
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My understanding is that the free Mail2Web Live product uses the older Always Up To Date technology. i.e. it sends you a silent text message when new email arrives which triggers Pocket Outlook to connect by POP or IMAP and get your mail.
That is not a push mail product. It is a triggered pull. Not bad for free, but one should be clear it does not include Direct Push... unless something has recently changed (please feel free to correct me)
Mail2Web also offer Personal Exchange, a paid hosted exchange service which has Direct Push. I personally did not like their service as I was unhappy with the Junk mail filtering they use, but their most basic hosted exchange service with Direct Push is extremely cheap... though not free.
so, let me just make sure that I understand this correctly....
the mail2web live product whilst not being a true push service does advise me that I have received an email by sending a silent SMS which tells my device to connect to the net and sync with the mail2web server to get my emails yes? (assuming I am somewhere where I have wifi or internet access)
that doesn't sound too bad....as basically what I am after is something that tells me I have an email when it arrives in my inbox. All I need is a text message telling me who it's from and the subject. That way I can decide whether I want to connect to the net and pick up the email or whether it's something that can wait.
is there anyone who offers a service like that? (I think hotmail do but I don't want to use hotmail)
many thanks
twisted-pixel said:
so, let me just make sure that I understand this correctly....
the mail2web live product whilst not being a true push service does advise me that I have received an email by sending a silent SMS which tells my device to connect to the net and sync with the mail2web server to get my emails yes?
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Sorry to the Mods if this is getting off-topic (realize this is an Artemis - Emoze thread... please move if appropriate!)
Goota be honest, it is a few months since I used any Mail2Web service so I can only report on my past experience. I recall they had fairly responsive/informative support by email and recommend you ask them directly.
I think Always Up To Date (AUTD) doesn't work quite the way you describe... not that it is bad at all, and it may well do what you need. Anyway, how it works is you would be installing a little application on your device which can recognize a special hidden/silent text message from the Exchange Server (you cannot see or read this message). It just tells you device that there is new email, that is all, Then your device switches on (screen goes on, comes out of suspend) and does a an email logon as if you had opened the relevant Pocket Outlook email account and hit the send/receive choice. It then logs on from scratch and retrieves your email (just headers or everything will based on your settings).
The good is this is may be free and can work on a pre-WM5 device. The downside is that it is much slower than true Direct Push and uses more battery. With Direct Push a handshake is already established with the Exchange Server and when you new mail arrives it drops into you mailbox within seconds without your device even needing to come out of standby. You just hear the audio alert of email arriving (depending on your prefered settings).
I tried the least expensive paid Exchange Service from mail2web. It was only about 2 USD a month with no contract so I am not complaining. I personally didn't like that, for me, it incorrectly marked almost every single message as Spam and I could not adjust this adequately unless I upgraded to their most expensive Exchange offering... which costs about the same as other similar services.
I am trying out the 1 and 1 Exchange service at present. OK, not fantastic. Probably we should have a thread specially for a good email round up... likely there is one already and I should probably be posting there....
HTH
What you need is WM6 with Windows Live!
I have a Wizard running WM6... just got my XDA Orbit on O2, WM5 :-(
On WM6, the MSN service is replaced with Windows Live, and that allows you to configure a hotmail account to sync up automatically or at specific intervals.
You can do it in WM5 using the MSN messageger with an ID linked to your hotmail acocunt, but you have to be logged in to messgencger for it to work.
If anyone can extract the Windows Live component form a WM6 rom....
I recently tried another application from qore.
The idea is that you get your emails forwarded to a service that texts you when you get an email (in my case T-Mobile offers this service). The application intercepts this text (you receive no notification, it's all done in the background) and triggers a send/receive on the email account specified on your unit. In my case connecting via GPRS and downloading my emails.
sadly, it seemed to interrupt random texts and since it's done in the background, you don't even know that the text has been intercepted. I was getting angry phone calls from my mates asking why I hadn't replied to texts, that I hadn't even seen!!
Push Email
1. Register a Hotmail account and use the included Microsoft Pocket MSN software it works!
2. Register an account with http://www.consilient.com it's free and allows push mail from many services...
Hope this helps..

Corp Blackberry using WM5 ?

Hi folks,
I have a T-mobile dash (WM5) with a data plan (but no blackberry plan). My new employer uses only Palm OS Treo's and Blackberries for mobile corp email - although they use Outlook for desktop corp email !
The IT guys were a little puzzled with the Windows Mobile Device ! Anyway, I was wondering if there is a way to
1) Use my T-mobile dash's data plan
2) Along with a WM5 app
3) to connect to my corp blackberry's server.
I downloaded the WM5 blackberry app but it doesn't seem to connect anywhere, nor could I figure out how to set it up. Is there a step by step guide somewhere ?
Also, is that app very similar to the Treo/blackberries ? Then I could simply give my dash+BB connect to the IT guys and they could configure it (if the UI etc are similar to blackberries ... they know only treos and blackberries).
On a final note, I wanted to convince the head IT tech to support WM5 Outlook 'officially'. For this I need some information on how easy, secure it is to deploy this setup. Their current exchange server is mostly inside the corp firewall, so copying the desktop outlook settings to the dash doesn't work (desktop is inside corp firewall, dash is outside).
Thanks folks
Sid
Hello Sid!
I just came from a similar scenario- here's how I resolved my issues.
To be able to support direct push in Microsoft Exchange, a patch has to be applied to the server (The patch is called "Messaging and Security Feature Pack (MSFP) for Windows Mobile 5.0"). Direct Push allows your WM device to be in constant communication with the exchange server by pinging the exchange box for any changes to that user account (email). When a new email arrives in your inbox, your phone then downloads the new message. You can also sync your contacts, calendar, etc.
Unfortunately, my company has not applied this patch yet. When I went from my blackberry to WM5 device, they were not thrilled.
Thankfully, T-Mobile offers a push service called T-Mobile MyEmail which allows you to push email from any exchange/POP3 address. It will automatically locate the server address for you, just provide it your company email address and password.
From a security stand point, Microsoft's Direct Push is the most secure. It will also allow your system admin to remotely flash your handset if happens to get lost or stolen.
If you are interested in learning more about T-Mobile's MyEmail, go to:
http://www.myemail.t-mobile.com
For more information regarding Microsoft's Direct Push Technology, check out:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/articles/directpush.mspx
Cheers
sublevel said:
Hello Sid!
Thankfully, T-Mobile offers a push service called T-Mobile MyEmail which allows you to push email from any exchange/POP3 address. It will automatically locate the server address for you, just provide it your company email address and password.
From a security stand point, Microsoft's Direct Push is the most secure. It will also allow your system admin to remotely flash your handset if happens to get lost or stolen.
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But my corp email isin't POP or IMAP ... its exchange and blackberry. So while its a good suggestion, it won't help my situation. (?) I tried setting up my email via the "setup my email icon" but it doesn't work.
Also, exchange is inside the firewall so only "real" computers can access it via VPN/corp ethernet. Blackberry is outside the firewall. This is why my WM5 outlook can't even reach the real outlook server. I think I have two options
1) convince them to setup Exchange to talk to mobile devices
--> I'm going to forward your link to the IT guys so they can evaluate this option - thanks!
2) make my own WM5 device look/work reasonably similar to the Treo/Blackberries they are used to configuring. Then say "please set this up like a blackberry like you normally do".
For 2) I think I have found the app (bb connect?) but don't know
2.1) how to configure it
2.2) if it's the latest version (where do I get the latest version?)
2.3) If having just the data plan is good enough or do I need the special blackberry plan for this to work.
Hope that sheds more light .... thanks folks
Sid
Stoneage
Hi,
I have the same problem, only there's no convincing my IT department to support WM5 device. It supports only BB that are company property.
I have an external outlook privately setup with push mail and an alias for my corporate email, but the it seems like the redirect and auto forward rules I've defined in my outlook are forbidden or something, since they won't forward the mails I get from my exchange account to my external account.
Any idea how to go around this?
Some outlook plugin/software that will automatically forward mails to my external account?
Thanks.
Why don't you just get a blackberry data plan added to your account and use the blackberry connect client? That is all you need, as long as IT setup an account on your BES server at work.
Not that simple
If only life was that simple.
Not everybody can get a BB in our company and the IT department will not support devices that aren't owned by the company.
So, I'm looking for the workaround.

Receiving email on Orbit.

I would like email "pushed" to my Orbit however, Im a bit confussed.
If I register with mail2web or port88 will that give me a new email address that people can send directly too which will be automatically pushed to my Orbit.
Or will people need to forward to my existing address, which will then need to be forwarded to mail2web and then pushed to my orbit.
Putting it simply........I would like email pushed to my PDA, can this be done through a mail2web account ONLY. IE by people sending email directly to [email protected] (for example) or does another ISP need to forward it on to mail2web first?
PLEASE PLEASE help!!
Rob.
If you have a Microsoft Exchange server delivering your email at work and you have Outlook web access, then try www.emoze.com. There's no need to change your email address with their service, it's free and gives you push email capability to your mobile device.
Push email - Morange
After a long search and not entirely satisfied with the options,
I found Morange and after speaking to the guys in Singapore, they e-mailed me a version that works on the O2 XDA Orbit. Simple and effective, worth looking in to it
http://monet.morange.com/
I started using today and it is pretty good. There are still few things to improve regarding settings, but seems that they are doing a good job.
The file is here: Best of luck.
I have been using Emoze for a couple of years now and it works very well.
the question remains the same though carlitos...do you have to have your mail forwarded to the email address given to you by morange? which is then pushed to your device?
Morange
No, it works like the Blackberry Connect as I had on the MIni S.
A copy is left on your server, and you get the first 5000 chars.
I use blueyonder and my work e-mail, it so far so good!
Hope it helps!

[Q] POP BB email works, android email doesn't

I'm coming off a Blackberry curve 8300 and i was able to send and receive my company's email via POP3/SMTP just fine.
On my Android phone, i've never been able to get my company's SMTP to work on the e-mail program on the phone.
There's nothing complicated about the setup. mail.company.com for in and out servers, ports 110/25, no SSL, no log-in required.
any suggestions?
How can you run POP without a login? How would the POP server know who was asking to collect his|her mail?
read again. outgoing mail server is not working. i can receive my mail without issues. sending mail is the problem...
does it help to know it runs off an Exchange server?
I know nothing about Exchange, sorry.
found my answer.
http://www.motorola.com/Support/US-EN/Support-Homepage/Android-Support/Microsoft+Exchange+Email

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