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WP7 on Touch Pro 2

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How well does WP7 work on a HTC Touch Pro 2? With everyone who has installed it. Thanks

ACMilan07 said:
How well does WP7 work on a HTC Touch Pro 2? With everyone who has installed it. Thanks
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anyone knows?
i'm also curious...

it don't work and it will never work to ( wrong cpu ) only snapdragon cpu's are capable of running wp7

Deep down inside I know it will never work, the other part of me wishes it could because Verizon will not have a WP7 till next year. Just want something to hold me over till VZW gets a cool one...

ceesheim said:
it don't work and it will never work to ( wrong cpu ) only snapdragon cpu's are capable of running wp7
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DavidinCT said:
Deep down inside I know it will never work, the other part of me wishes it could because Verizon will not have a WP7 till next year. Just want something to hold me over till VZW gets a cool one...
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Yeah, I wish It would work. I was planning to keep it as my project phone. It's just too bad. I just got a G2 and it's my first Android device ever. I feel like the TP2 was more hackable.. and I really hate to let it go. My windows mobile/phone days are over
I'm clueless with Android.. I don't know how their programming works, I don't understand how to unlock the img on the phone or even put it in boot loader mode or even root it, etc. It's like I still feel out of place.
Any of the rest of you in a situation like mine?

ACMilan07 said:
Yeah, I wish It would work. I was planning to keep it as my project phone. It's just too bad. I just got a G2 and it's my first Android device ever. I feel like the TP2 was more hackable.. and I really hate to let it go. My windows mobile/phone days are over
I'm clueless with Android.. I don't know how their programming works, I don't understand how to unlock the img on the phone or even put it in boot loader mode or even root it, etc. It's like I still feel out of place.
Any of the rest of you in a situation like mine?
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Almost. WinMo was really hackable.
Though I only played with Android on the Touch Pro 2, so it was glitchy.
I just hope somebody roots WP7 before HTC 7 Pro comes out.
*DROOL*
Bow that's a nice phone. Pity they only put 3.6" but still more than enough.

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There will be NOOOOOO devices capable to port WP7 to other than the HD2!!!
I am sorry guys, other than the HD2, there would be no possible ports of WP7 to any other devices. Unlike WM, WP7 has strict hardware requirements, and it being on other devices is highly unlikely and unreasonable to port to because of the limitations of previous devices.
Any dev want to chime in on my generalization, please PM me and I will add your post here.
So please don't ask for one, your post will be closed with out notice and further questions will result in bans.
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Windows phone 7 / Htc Desire

im sorry im really new to the custom rom scene, and i dont know how to work this website. i was hoping can anyone shed some light on my question.
i was wondering whether there was a windows phone 7 rom for htc desire?
thankyou

pudlefish said:
im sorry im really new to the custom rom scene, and i dont know how to work this website. i was hoping can anyone shed some light on my question.
i was wondering whether there was a windows phone 7 rom for htc desire?
thankyou
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You want to put windows onto an android phone?
Virtually everyone that owns a Leo (HD2) has been trying to do the opposite since they got their handset.
In short. No
There are far too few interested for any chef to bother.
There are Windows Phone 7 themes and apps that can replicate the look.
If you get Launcher pro and pay for the extras then i recommend having a look at this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=781455
If anything it looks better than WP7
Also have a look in the market (from your phone) for windows phone android.
Its a work in progress app that will give you the awful blue tiles effect that you want.
There is also Zune Home, This looks like the older windows 6.5
Hope this helps (if it does hit the thanks button)

woody_2k said:
You want to put windows onto an android phone?
Virtually everyone that owns a Leo (HD2) has been trying to do the opposite since they got their handset.
In short. No
There are far too few interested for any chef to bother.
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i know the topic is like 9 months old, but you might want to consider that a future is not written until someone takes it as a challenge and wupti you got phone7.5 on HD2
So, never say "No"

originalone said:
i know the topic is like 9 months old, but you might want to consider that a future is not written until someone takes it as a challenge and wupti you got phone7.5 on HD2
So, never say "No"
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Indeed. of course the desire would end up "crap"

Unfortunately it would never happen mate. WP7 is closed source. Microsoft isn't too happy with people flashing it to the HD2 (leo) and that runs wm 6.5.
Anyhow android is so much better. But try metro or launcher7 on the market. There's free and pay for apps.
HTC Desire

Not a rom, but try "Launcher 7" from the market. It's a launcher that gives the look of WM7.
Not sure if it's any good, not tried it personally.

I'd be tempted to try and get a HD2 if I was interested in WP7 - because of the ability to run WM6.5/WP7/Android/Windows98/etc.
I can't see it coming to the Desire anytime soon - as already said - lack of interest to port something that will be very difficult

I don't like the WP7 launchers. Want one? Then get a WP7 phone. or the hd2 as that beast does near enough anything. Except ios and palms software ofcourse ;-)
HTC Desire

I know this is an old thread but I did not feel like opening a new one for a question that's already asked.
So the question is: Can WP7 run on a HTC Desire. While it would be difficult to do, i'm absolutely sure that someone would be able to do it. Why?
1: HTC HD2. It can run Android, it can run WP7. This makes the point "WP7 is closed source so it's not possible" invalid.
2: Somebody made Ubuntu run on a HTC Desire. also there is a lot of information on the bootloader of Android devices and I'm sure there is some info on the Windows Mobile/Phone bootloaders.
3: Android 4 ICS is already running on the HTC Desire with Hardware Acceleration, even though the drivers needed are not published by the maker (Quallcomm if I remember). This either means that someone is doing extra work of making existing drivers work or that someone is actually making th new drivers.
4: HTC uses the same kind of chips for their whole lineup. Take for example the HTC Mozart:
CPU: Qualcomm QSD8250
Memory: 576 MB RAM; 512 MB ROM
GPU: Adreno 200
Resolution: 800x480
Those are 4 of the most important parts of any phone that may cause problems because of drivers. Also the HTC Trophy and HTC Radar have the same camera resolution as the one in the HTC Desire, so they may be the same.
All in all, I think it should be possible to port WP7 to the Desire. Main problem would be to find someone that actually cares enough to put lots of time in it and also knows the details on both Android and WP7.
Other main problem is that WP7 is closed source, which would make the developers process take a lot longer, discouraging devs even more to try it.
So let me know how your (educated!!!) views are on this subject.

I got HTC Desire, but I dont like Android. Still no chance flash it to WP7 ?

Ehh I'm waiting for wp7 too. Know that feel Bros.
Wysłane z mojego HTC Desire za pomocą Tapatalk

I've just upgraded to a Sensation, have my desire lying around and I wanted to know the same thing... Looking back at it now its sluggish on my ROM. I fancy trying wp7 but there don't seem to be any ROM's around still. I think that with a bit of tweaking for the desire it would be cool... We just need a chef to cook something like this up... Please, if anyone has the skills...

FTP4 said:
I got HTC Desire, but I dont like Android. Still no chance flash it to WP7 ?
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try this link

Jetwax said:
try this link
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Which link?

nlooooo said:
Which link?
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LOL
There is no link... Thats why...
(thank you captain obvious)
çup?
by tapatalk...

Hello,
Look in my signature, i'm currently building a Windows Phone Mod.
Thanks,
- Rinse

Yeah. Mod - is only way! Dont search Windows Phone on Desire
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Good work
Good work, mate ....
TheRinseM said:
Hello,
Look in my signature, i'm currently building a Windows Phone Mod.
Thanks,
- Rinse
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[Q] Windows Phone 7 ROM

Hey. Anybody try this rom(i now its for HD2): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=953078
on desire? maybe we can edit it to work.. and why? to prove that it can be done
and it would be cool to have maybe dual boot, android and wp7? i know that there are launchers... but launcher is not like that so please tell me if its possible
Klemen

Probably possible but there isn't a cry out for it so developers won't port it.

GoogleJelly said:
Probably possible but there isn't a cry out for it so developers won't port it.
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its maybe possible without porting? i dont dare to do this, because MAGLDR delete all data on the phone.. so if something is wrong... maybe someone try it and tell us here?

aren't there licensing issues with porting windows phone 7 around too?

Lothaen said:
aren't there licensing issues with porting windows phone 7 around too?
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why? its alreadly ported to HD2 and there are no licensing issues (i think)

I'd love to see a WP7 ROM... Actually I like flashing ROMS so I bought this device thinking that the WP7 ROM will be ported. Chose it over the HD2 because of its size and display actually and thought that it has basically the same possibilities when it comes to flashing all kinds of ROMS.. A bit disappointed but hey - I would probably just try the WP7 ROM and then come back to Android anyway.

lol i'd love to see that too actually also an ios port if possible. I mean nowadays where flashing roms has become so easy and fast I would just love the freak people out having a phone there and basically switching between android WP7 and Ios

Klemc said:
why? its alreadly ported to HD2 and there are no licensing issues (i think)
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Still doesn't mean it shouldn't be done. Windows requires the handset to be licensed as Windows needs to be activated - same as on a PC
It'll be technically illegal to run WP7 on anything other than a WP7 handset. Besides, the Desire would need new drivers written from scratch to work

with HD2 being a windows mobile originally would this cover windows phone perhaps?
as desire is an android phone - then thats where you'll probably hit the issues

Lothaen said:
with HD2 being a windows mobile originally would this cover windows phone perhaps?
as desire is an android phone - then thats where you'll probably hit the issues
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hmm i dont think so.. you can look the new htc trophy, i think that the hardware is amost the same as desire... so we first need someone to try this without porting maybe work but i dont want to f*ck up my desire

Klemc said:
Hey. Anybody try this rom(i now its for HD2): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=953078
on desire? maybe we can edit it to work.. and why? to prove that it can be done
and it would be cool to have maybe dual boot, android and wp7? i know that there are launchers... but launcher is not like that so please tell me if its possible
Klemen
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Dual boot @[email protected], too massy, really ...

Klemc said:
hmm i dont think so.. you can look the new htc trophy, i think that the hardware is amost the same as desire... so we first need someone to try this without porting maybe work but i dont want to f*ck up my desire
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You dont seem to understand how things work, just like on a pc, the operating system need an enviroment to boot from, this is called the bootloader, during the initial boot phaze alot is going on, mainly the initalization of hardware, now our bootloader is not compatible with WP7, it would be like using linux to try and boot windows.... so for WP7 to even boot a whole new bootloader, and hardware drivers must be written. Problem two is the radio, the desire radio was written with the android open source project in mind, it would not be compatible with WP7, so a new radio would have to be written. Problem 3. The nand chip uses an EXT file system on the desire, WP7 uses NTFS, so a tool would have to be written to format the nand chip.... and finally as has been said before, without buying a WP7 licence it would be piracy, amd XDA would almost certainly have to deal with retaliation from microsoft.
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buy a w7 phone... far better ...
not sure why you would .. unless you dont like androids....
Anyway there are theams you can get , whic wil give you the glowing win 7 mobile look...

mmm seems like one of the requirement is wm6.5 rom (if you come from android nand directly wp7 might not boot)

m4a1rifle said:
mmm seems like one of the requirement is wm6.5 rom (if you come from android nand directly wp7 might not boot)
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....might not boot....

this project isnt going to happen, especially on here anyway as XDA doesnt condone piracy which is essentially what your talking about doing.

Hmm... interesting indeed, but I don't want to reduce functionality on my phone

[Q] Any way to get WP7 ROM on Desire?

Hello, it's possible that in near future I'll need some WP7 device for app testing/debugging. Desire and Mozart are quite similar in HW specs (like HD7 and HD2 where WP7 port exists). So my question is, can be WP7 ROM ported on Desire? even if phone features won't work... thanks

No. Few reasons. There is just no interest in WM being on the Desire. And even if someone did it they would have a battle on their hands with Microsoft. Also, the bootloader will be way way different and so on. So in a nutshell.... it is possible, but no one is stupid enough or not going to waste their time.

thanks for answer, then it seems I'll have to change Desire for some WP7 device

Are u jokin ?? Interchange ur Andro for WP ??
whats the reason..only themes?

vasili_defy said:
Are u jokin ?? Interchange ur Andro for WP ??
whats the reason..only themes?
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Did you read my first post? I've mentioned the reason there - application developement for WP7. And of course WP7 has good emulator (definitely better than Android, which is painfully slow), but sometimes it's just better or in some cases even needed to test on real device.
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Boot Manager and WP7
maybe the Boot Manager could be the option. Only question is, how to create a bootable WP7 image...

it will be good
hd2 have already android roms but devs still working on wp7 roms i ll be the first user if someone going to relesa it..

kamelot.sk said:
Did you read my first post? I've mentioned the reason there - application developement for WP7. And of course WP7 has good emulator (definitely better than Android, which is painfully slow), but sometimes it's just better or in some cases even needed to test on real device.
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I dont understand how you can effectively debug a wp7 application on "alien" hardware.
But anyway, its not been done before, you would be the first (as far as I know). You would need to make wp7 work on the desire yourself. You need to be a rom developer and an extremely experienced one at that.

rootSU: yes, I agree. It might sound weird, but I wanted to reuse my Desire (And I like the idea of dualboot, before Desire I had HTC Touch Pro with WinMo&Android). And I suppose that the biggest problem of WP7 would be bootloader...

Request for Desire

See here: http://www.htc.com/www/help/android4faq/
Who can conatct to HTC to request ICS for Desire ?!

This thread need to move to general.
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dungphp said:
See here: http://www.htc.com/www/help/android4faq/
Who can conatct to HTC to request ICS for Desire ?!
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Huge number of people had already signed a petition on rmd-team.ru, and the petition had been sent.
However, I don't see any point in this - HTC WON'T upgrade Desire anymore. All our hopes to ICS (which are being fulfilled more and more) lie with fellow devs.
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk 2

HTC can't release ICS for the Desire because Sense won't fit on the /system partition(they can't go hacking about like our devs can). Google wouldn't even release AOSP ICS for the Nexus One because it lacked space.

About petition:
It's true I sent it.
Their answers:
"Thank you. We have forwarded your message to the appropriate department."
After a few days...
"Unfortunately, this update isn't planned. We apologise."

nathris said:
HTC can't release ICS for the Desire because Sense won't fit on the /system partition(they can't go hacking about like our devs can). Google wouldn't even release AOSP ICS for the Nexus One because it lacked space.
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Exactly. HTC can't update the desire with ics, because all factory roms have to fit a devices internal partitions, which sense ics will never do (hell, they couldn't even do a proper gb release)
Instead of pointlessly hoping for an official release, help and support the devs that are already getting it working. Its the only way ics is ever being developed for the desire.

lenny_kano said:
Exactly. HTC can't update the desire with ics, because all factory roms have to fit a devices internal partitions, which sense ics will never do (hell, they couldn't even do a proper gb release)
Instead of pointlessly hoping for an official release, help and support the devs that are already getting it working. Its the only way ics is ever being developed for the desire.
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I trust shaky with the task.....he has probably already done more then anyone could have hoped when sense 4 was released.... Big thumbs up for him...... He's doing more then HTC....
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This is why devs rule over manufacturers. They can get the job done.

lenny_kano said:
Exactly. HTC can't update the desire with ics, because all factory roms have to fit a devices internal partitions, which sense ics will never do (hell, they couldn't even do a proper gb release)
Instead of pointlessly hoping for an official release, help and support the devs that are already getting it working. Its the only way ics is ever being developed for the desire.
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I don't think a company like HTC is incapable of making an update that could change the hboot and create a ext3/ext4 partition on an sd card and make it posibile to install ics with sense4 on the Desire. The thing is that it wouldn't be beneficial for them concidering that they are after all a company that "makes" devices. If they did that then neighter of us would even concider buying a new device than that would mean bancrupcy for them. The main purpose for any company is selling, wheater it's a real or virtual product and HTC produces phisical products not just the software that completes them.
They said initialy that the Desire isn't capable of running GB never the less a version with Sense on it... after that they said that no mater what it can't run ICS... and in that light how many of us can tell them wrong.
In a final saying, it's just down to the devs like Sandvold or Shaky or any of them on XDA and not to create a rom that shows them that there are other people that have a reputation that is earned through hard work and our endless apreciation and deepest respect.
Sorry for my english as it isn't my main language.
Kind regards.
Pushu.X
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pushu.x said:
I don't think a company like HTC is incapable of making an update that could change the hboot and create a ext3/ext4 partition on an sd card and make it posibile to install ics with sense4 on the Desire. The thing is that it wouldn't be beneficial for them concidering that they are after all a company that "makes" devices. If they did that then neighter of us would even concider buying a new device than that would mean bancrupcy for them. The main purpose for any company is selling, wheater it's a real or virtual product and HTC produces phisical products not just the software that completes them.
They said initialy that the Desire isn't capable of running GB never the less a version with Sense on it... after that they said that no mater what it can't run ICS... and in that light how many of us can tell them wrong.
In a final saying, it's just down to the devs like Sandvold or Shaky or any of them on XDA and not to create a rom that shows them that there are other people that have a reputation that is earned through hard work and our endless apreciation and deepest respect.
Sorry for my english as it isn't my main language.
Kind regards.
Pushu.X
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Why are you taking side of manufacturer ?
We are customers, we paid good money to buy a device which should get updated for a couple of years.........specially Android as it is open source.....
See Linux, Ubuntu, Firefox do they charge for updates......
Heck, take APPLE for example, i heard they still give updates for 3g which was released quite a while ago......
I'm not saying your wrong, but why are you thinking from HTC standpoint? They already have too much profit margins......people will still buy new phones even if old ones get updated.........
For example, you can still run the latest windows and apps on a Pentium4 HT even though ITS STONE AGED......see my point? People haven't stopped buying core i7 due to it.......
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Guys you're forgetting the obvious here. HTC does not have to release ICS on the Desire because it is now older than 2 years from initial shipping. Also there's limitations on hardware such as low internal memory. Do not say SD ext as not everybody will understand the point of sd ext. With froyo the last proper ota ROM do not expect any proper updates in the future. Shaky is working on a 3.0 kernel so expect some major improvements when that is released.
If you really want ICS sell your desire and buy a 2nd hand nexus s.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA

Another point is: The least of users would even want to install an official update, because of hardware limitations (too few memory) it could never be an OTA. You all know that, without sd-ext our Desires are nearly unusable. And because of that it would be a download-and-use-at-your-own-risk-thing, as 2.3.3 was. I'd say that the 2.3.3 update was also installed mostly by experienced users, who'd also install a custom rom. So why even release one, if there's plenty of custom roms availible? HTC can use their manpower better. So stop complaining, buy a new phone or use any ICS rom.
BTW, we can call ourselves lucky that the desire even got so many updates. See for example some Motorola phones which are still stuck on 2.1. And that's not because of hardware, but the companies not willing to update. HTC is one of the better, as they still plan to upgrade some of the older devices.

Yasir Javed Ansari said:
Why are you taking side of manufacturer ?
We are customers, we paid good money to buy a device which should get updated for a couple of years.........specially Android as it is open source.....
See Linux, Ubuntu, Firefox do they charge for updates......
Heck, take APPLE for example, i heard they still give updates for 3g which was released quite a while ago......
I'm not saying your wrong, but why are you thinking from HTC standpoint? They already have too much profit margins......people will still buy new phones even if old ones get updated.........
For example, you can still run the latest windows and apps on a Pentium4 HT even though ITS STONE AGED......see my point? People haven't stopped buying core i7 due to it.......
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Never took sides with anyone... because I am in comerce and trade I was just stating a personal opinion on a marketing policy. Besides the fact that I own a HTC product I have no other connection to them... so no need for me to take sides.
And as for linux, firefox, opera and all other "software" developers it makes sense to keep updating because their products only live on others hardware.
Never meant to offend anyone, sorry if I've left that impression.
As for an ICS OTA, even if it were to be released, after using custom ROMs for more than a year now and such a great experience I, personaly, wouldn't go back to stock.
Kind regards.
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