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Hi All,
Sorry i have a slightly noobish question.
is the moto defy hardware capable of running android 2.3 gingerbread ?
regards
Ani
I have an old HTC Hero that has lower hardware than Defy and it handles GB just fine. Custom made GB that is, as the last update HTC did for Hero was Eclair(2.1). The problem with Defy is the bootloader if Motorola won't upgrade Defy to GB.
Ofcourse it's capable of running 2.3 but it's going to take about a year from now lol because there are still 4-5 months before 2.2 comes out...and btw Optimus one is getting 2.3 (slower then defy) so ofcourse defy can get 2.3
Gingerbread 2.3
Defy is fully capable of running GB. You can easily overclock it upto 1.2 ghz. Has plenty of RAM and space like other high end smartpohones.
And so far the leaked version of Froyo 3.4.2 is fairly snappy, fast and pleasure to use. The biggest problem is that motorola won't make any GB ROM for Defy, so we have to wait for some moded ROMs.
Defy has the potential to 2.3, yes ... but this will probably take us a time.
EDIT: Yes, Motorola is "very close" in this area
Sorry for my english...
The HTC Dream is capable of running Gingerbread and it's not crawling, nuff said.
Any maker who tells you that its phones aren't capable is probably not because of the hardware.
Is there any chance that we could get official 2.3 gingerbread ? I would not like to use any custom ROM's coz' Im bit newbie with android....
^ no Motorola releases new phone and Defy will not get official 2.3
If LG P500 can handle GB, Why not DEFY and Spec wise Defy is far better than P500
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We may not get it officially but the leaked Gingerbread firmwares for The Defy+ work perfectly on the original defy(red lens). I'm currently on it as the matter of fact.
ryan8r said:
We may not get it officially but the leaked Gingerbread firmwares for The Defy+ work perfectly on the original defy(red lens). I'm currently on it as the matter of fact.
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Thank you for that! I may try it
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I use to have an old HTC TyTn II (aka HTC Kaiser) which has 400mhz and 256 mb RAM (i think) running windows mobile 6.1 officially... it was possible to install CM7 (Android 2.3) ROM on it and it ran quite OK!!! Not much of a lag, i used it as my day to day ROM for some months after finally getting a new phone.
So i guess you can say that the Defy DEFINITELY has the hardware for 2.3 maybe even honeycomb and ice cream sandwich (if a port was ever possible)
ryan8r said:
We may not get it officially but the leaked Gingerbread firmwares for The Defy+ work perfectly on the original defy(red lens). I'm currently on it as the matter of fact.
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ehhem... red lens ?
I just got my first android phone.....
Motodefyuser said:
ehhem... red lens ?
I just got my first android phone.....
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Yep To know more check out.http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1116694
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if you happen to have the green lense, it works great as well. i am on green lense with the leaked 134 gb supposedly for mb526. easiest way to know is to flash the leaked gb, and if camera doesnt work then you are on green lense. if you are, use the greenbread patch to enable camera (you will lose the live wallpaper function). the best gb so far for me is the leaked 134, very stable with magnificent battery life.
Motorola DEFY has a 1GHz TI 3630 chipset on it. but it will be functional if u install a 2.3 version. i have tried it, it works. because TI(Texas Instruments) doesn't produce a 800MHz 3610 chipset. that chipset doesn't even exist. the DEFY with the stock rom uses a downgraded 1GHz 3630 chipset. DEFY is very powerful... I don't even think of buying a DEFY+
The only problem to defy was the Gingerbread rom itself. But now we have some good gb roms that works very nicelly!
I'm asking this because i heard on other forums and also saw it on youtube that some people who got 2.2 update on defy (o2 germany i believe), some of them have 1ghz cpu on stock...so if someone can confirm this if o2 2.2 update actualyl increases the clock speed to 1ghz?
no reply? does anyone even know anything about it?
Feel free to read the Android dev forum. Instructions on there to flash your phone and up your clockspeed, at your own risk! People already running at 1.2 ghz.
2 separate things:
1 . You can have 2.2 on the Defy via leaked ROM => see Defy dev section
2. You can very easely overclock your Defy to 1Ghz => read the forum
This 2 things are not related, 2.2 ROM are not the cause of the overclocking. Overclocking is an user settings
I've seen that there's Gingerbread for Milestone that, just as Defty, has that nasty bootloader. Can Gingerbread ever come to Defy?
kastraverde said:
I've seen that there's Gingerbread for Milestone that, just as Defty, has that nasty bootloader. Can Gingerbread ever come to Defy?
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I join the question...
i'm using one of the leaked versions and it's working pretty well ...
Actually many reported the leaked Chinese Froyo was default to 1ghz.
Le_Poilu said:
2 separate things:
1 . You can have 2.2 on the Defy via leaked ROM => see Defy dev section
2. You can very easely overclock your Defy to 1Ghz => read the forum
This 2 things are not related, 2.2 ROM are not the cause of the overclocking. Overclocking is an user settings
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Not as long as the bootloader remains locked. One of several things needs to happen: Moto releases a Gingerbread for Defy (or it's leaked), the bootloader is cracked, or a new bootloader that is not locked is released.
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I've seen that there's Gingerbread for Milestone that, just as Defty, has that nasty bootloader. Can Gingerbread ever come to Defy?
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Well, if yur queston is thatDefy will be able to hanle Gingerbread then:
http://androidcommunity.com/lg-optimus-one-series-will-receive-android-2-3-20101209/
LG optimus one is getting 2.3 update ad it has half the performance compared to Defy, so yes. BUT as you can see Motorola is takingAges just to release 2.2 for Defy, i doubt they'll release 2.3 and that might be when the Defy would be quite old so i really doubt it.
I wonder which cellphone gets HoneyComb (3.0) pre installed xD
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LG optimus one is getting 2.3 update ad it has half the performance compared to Defy
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That's got nothing to do with whether or not the Defy actually gets Gingerbread though.
It all comes down to the choices made by individual manufacturers, not the relative specs of various handsets.
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I wonder which cellphone gets HoneyComb (3.0) pre installed xD
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Google have stated that Honeycomb is for tablets, not phones.
Then again, Froyo supposedly isn't for tablets but that hasn't stopped companies releasing ones running it, so who knows.
Certainly the proper dual-core utilisation that Honeycomb will bring would be useful for the likes of the Optimus 2X or the Atrix, so there'd be some motivation for manufacturers to use it.
But, at the same time, I have no doubt that Google will release a handset-oriented version of Android that will add features like that.
shad0wboss said:
Well, if yur queston is thatDefy will be able to hanle Gingerbread then:
http://androidcommunity.com/lg-optimus-one-series-will-receive-android-2-3-20101209/
LG optimus one is getting 2.3 update ad it has half the performance compared to Defy, so yes. BUT as you can see Motorola is takingAges just to release 2.2 for Defy, i doubt they'll release 2.3 and that might be when the Defy would be quite old so i really doubt it.
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Step666 said:
That's got nothing to do with whether or not the Defy actually gets Gingerbread though.
It all comes down to the choices made by individual manufacturers, not the relative specs of various handsets.
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You just repeated what i said by proving me wrong lol. Read what i actually wrote.
I said that performance wise, yes defy can handle 2.3 BUT when it's taking ages just to release 2.2, what do you guess about 2.3 comming to defy and we actually don't know if they plan to do that or not. That is motorola's choice
I understand that you said it can handle it but linking to an article about LG is a waste of time, it has nothing to do with the Defy in the slightest.
All you're doing is confusing matters.
Hi guys,
I'm looking for a new custom rom for my phone, just rooted it... all gravy but fancy trying something of the things those genius chefs have been cooking!
I was looking for a Gingerbread rom with the HTC Sense style theme, but can't seem to find one; does one exist? I've had a look through the index and the developmnent forums but can only find Froyo Sense Roms. It's not a huge issue but it would be nice as I quite like the Sense layout and apps n' stuff
Also, any recommendations on roms? I think I'm going to try some of the gingerbead ones regardless of the htc sense(I like the sound of some of the enhancements) but wonder if anyones using something they can whole heartedly recommend, froyo or no?
Yeah, I would be interested in this too...
Not gonna happen, would need a complete re-write of Sense
EddyOS said:
Not gonna happen, would need a complete re-write of Sense
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Indeed. Try different roms and see which you like. Also, if you want different "styles" of sense, install a HD rom but it's still 2.2. Or you can just wait for 2.3 to be released for Desire which shouldn't be that long really.
GoogleJelly said:
Indeed. Try different roms and see which you like. Also, if you want different "styles" of sense, install a HD rom but it's still 2.2. Or you can just wait for 2.3 to be released for Desire which shouldn't be that long really.
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Ya I've gone for a 2.2 for now, I imagine I'll stick with it for a while until I feel a real 'need' to upgrade to 2.3.
Until HTC releases the 2.3 update for the Desire(s), nothing can be done :/
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Yes wait for new sense gingerbread. Or honeycomb rom
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To be honest, I much prefer Gingerbread ROMs and have found Ultimate Droid 3.0.0 to be the best so far.
On top of this I use Launcherpro, which contains awesome Sense style widgets for calendar/facebook/bookmarks/contacts etc.
See it here:
http://www.appbrain.com/app/launcherpro/com.fede.launcher
I also use Fancy Widgets with the H7 clock theme as this gives me the Sense style clock on my homescreen as well.
See it here:
http://www.androidcentral.com/fancy-widget-looks-wee-bit-familiar
I love this setup
wildcardspv
I've actually seen a photo or 2.3.1 Sense 'running' as it were so it exists but it's on one of the new HTC handsets. Whether we'll see it on the Desire is another matter
was it the new htc desire 2 ? ? cant wait for desire 2 to be released.. im sure it packages gingerbread with sense and full support for honeycomb !
Honeycomb is for tablets only. There will prob be something similar for smartphones later on, maybe 2.4 or 3.0, who knows. But no, Honeycomb is non existant for phones for now.
HTC desire S
with sense and android 2.3.2 and now??
search on the youtube this sentence:
"HTC Desire S Videopreview da Telefonino.net @ MWC 2011"
I have faith it will come out until mid-year has the rom gingerbread-Sense
GoogleJelly said:
Honeycomb is for tablets only. There will prob be something similar for smartphones later on, maybe 2.4 or 3.0, who knows. But no, Honeycomb is non existant for phones for now.
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2.4 has already been released, it's an update release from Google of 2.3 full of BugFixes. The Desire S will be released running 2.4, as will the HTC Desire when the new sense comes to it. Check out the thread I posted covering HTC's confirmation plans to update the HTC Desire range to 2.4. This includes all models of the HTC Desire released at the moment.
Also Honeycomb will be released for phones, just only phones that have Dual Core Processors, so thats every single HTC device at the moment out of that league. Hope I helped guys
Sort of it...
Okay, Here's what you can get if you son't mind it not being an ACTUAL Sense UI
Sense UI Themes for Launcher Pro
It's not perfect, but a quick google of Sense UI Launcher Pro theme brings up quite a bit...
i'm kinda new to this but i really recommend this oxygen-2.0-RC7
I think our wait will be over soon.
Already sense ginger is on you tube.
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Of course it's on YouTube - the Desire S has it out the box! Doesn't mean we'll get it soon, not until a dump is about (and not a test one doing the rounds)
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Of course it's on YouTube - the Desire S has it out the box! Doesn't mean we'll get it soon, not until a dump is about (and not a test one doing the rounds)
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Even with a dump, that new sense looks very demanding and the specs of the Desire S are slightly better than the Desire, still im not upgrading to a Desire S, my contract has almost reached one year, and after that I still have another year to go..
EddyOS said:
Of course it's on YouTube - the Desire S has it out the box! Doesn't mean we'll get it soon, not until a dump is about (and not a test one doing the rounds)
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=955680
here it is
looks like you'r in luck.. its gonna be possible soon, there is a leaked rom out:
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forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=903507
sorry wrong link .. this is the correct one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=955680
so lets hope the porting will start happening soon
And you know why? Because Wildfire S has the same size of ROM as our Desire and it's running Sense 2.1 just fine. It will be probably stripped down, but still better this than nothing.
what about sense 3.0
hopefully you are right! when you mean stripped down what features are missing from the wildfire s that are normally in the ROM?
3.0 won't work as the graphics will take for ever to run properly on the Desire
I am happy with Sense 2.1
It's already possible to use sense 2.1 for our Desire. The Roms aren't stable and basicly features like the camera doesn't work at the moment.
Look at these Roms:
[ROM][Ginger Sense][04 Apr]RCMix S v06 A2SD/DATA++, long sms works, TV animation!
[ROM][Ginger Sense][2 April]Cool DesireS v1 A2sd+ 1.28.401.1 Base
Oh, thank you for informing us, Captain Obvious!
Ours version is 1.0 (at least mine is so) and I m contented to 2.1 which is available on DHD, DS and incredible-S now, hope it comes with gingerbread soon.
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EddyOS said:
3.0 won't work as the graphics will take for ever to run properly on the Desire
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i''m not developer and haven''t used HTC Sensation as it just came out, but is it not possible to port Sense 3.0 due to Sensation being dual-core? or will the interface be hardware accelerated? what do you think?
HTC Sense 3.0 will only support Sensation, EVO 3D, Flyer and newer devices; older hardware left behind - From Engadget
I thought I heard that Sense 2.1 with Gingerbread was coming out for the Desire soonish...
donald-c said:
I thought I heard that Sense 2.1 with Gingerbread was coming out for the Desire soonish...
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That'd be sweet...got a source/any kind of memory of where you heard it?
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HTC Sense 3.0 will only support Sensation, EVO 3D, Flyer and newer devices; older hardware left behind[/URL] - From Engadget
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yes i know but that''s what engadget said and they just quoted someone''s words but since ive seen miracles that developers here do i wouldn''t be surprised if they are able to port it to our desires
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That'd be sweet...got a source/any kind of memory of where you heard it?
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http://www.mydaily-gadget.com/news/6214-htc-desire-gingerbread-update-comes-to-three-uk-late-april-early-may
Read about it here.
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http://www.mydaily-gadget.com/news/6214-htc-desire-gingerbread-update-comes-to-three-uk-late-april-early-may
Read about it here.
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Nice...that's something to look forward to then.
Thanks btw.
but there is no word about whether or not it will include Sense too
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its sense 2.1 and camera should work as its a Bravo ROM.
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There is a leaked Bravo (Desire) ROM already in the DEV section. Hopefully working ROMs (rooted, data++, etc.) will be up tomorrow
Tomorrow is not acceptable! We need them today!
Hahaha Actually there is a lot of time till 23:59
Actually i'm much more excited about the new drivers coming from the official release: hopefully we'll get some performance buff, especially for our poor gpu
Since HTC have revealed the HTC One V for Q2 of this year. Do you reckon some devs will be able to port the RUU over to the HTC Desire?
If you don't know what it is; it can be found here: http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...bile-phones/hands-on-htc-one-v-review-1066217
It states it has a single core 1Ghz CPU and sense 4.0 on top of ICS. Do you think this could be run smoothly on our two year old Desire's once HWA is fully fixed?
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It states it has a single core 1Ghz CPU and sense 4.0 on top of ICS. Do you think this could be run smoothly on our two year old Desire's once HWA is fully fixed?
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a) even if it has 1GHz single core cpu, it for sure is not one from 2008
b) Sense 3.5 doesn't work smoothly, so mine (possibly broken) logic says that it probably won't.
c) I for one couldn't care less if it gets ported or not. I know that software version is one part of the coin, where no number of updates will change the fact what Desire fundamentally is - a two year old with archaic architecture.
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*snip* once HWA is fully fixed?
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I doubt it'll get fixed.
As above, even though its a 1ghz processor, the desires technology is now outdated. Its possible we may get some sense 4.0 with ICS but who knows.
Will just have to wait and see what we get
If hwa is delt with I'm sure we might get sense 4.0 but won't let my hopes go up just yet. Although One V has a newer cpu/gpu so do Sensation/Evo3D/Amaze which run sense 3.0/5 (custom) much like I run it on my desire. There's not that much multitasking in comparison but it's running stable and very, very fast. Comparable to the best sense 1/2.0 roms out here. And it seems that sense 4.0 is lighter on ram since V has just 512mb compared with desires 576. My 2c.
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PlayPetepp said:
Comparable to the best sense 1/2.0 roms out here.
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Blasphemy '-.-
erklat said:
Blasphemy '-.-
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Try it, then reply.
Everyone is entitled to their own oppinion anyway.
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Try it, then reply.
Everyone is entitled to their own oppinion anyway.
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Well, there's "smooth" and and there's "sense 3.5 smooth". I've tried most 3.0+ roms but I don't think that people here truly understand what smooth is. I was one of those people. Then I tried oxygen (Mildwild's version to be precise) and it utterly ruined sense for me. I just can't go back.
Although I do miss sense from time to time
Wasn't talking about aosp, miui or cm7. Imho, sense will never be as fast. But that's not the topic of this thread anyway.
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I thought AceS 3D port of Sense 3.0 was smooth - but then I went to ICS 0.3.x beta's and was amazed how quick and responsive it was even as a beta.
I do like Sense a lot- especially the camera and people apps but it's days are numbered where ICS is concerned... still wouldn't want to go to stock Gingerbread to be honest but it's probably heaps smoother still
AceS smooth?
It was very, very slow and huge in ram.
I wasn't able to open tweet deck when playing music!
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If aosp roms I've only tried mildwild and my current sense rom is at least as fast, if not faster... Not bragging or something. It's an objective opinion. I was really disappointed, since everyone here seems to think otherwise.
One V uses a S2 CPU. The Desire has a S1.
Although, interestingly, the V has slightly less RAM than the Desire.
If ROMs get ported, I don't think there will be RAM issues, but there will be a lot of lag issues etc.
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I tried reading this topic, but after I got to erklat's post I was hit by an epiphany: None of this matters to me, Sense sucks.
bortak said:
Sense sucks.
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Why exactly? Sense is the best thing that happened to android.
sudkcoce said:
Why exactly? Sense is the best thing that happened to android.
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FTFY
ICS is the best thing that happened to android
Htc said that Sense 4 is lighter than 3.5 + we have One V with 512 Ram so i think it's possible to port and to work smoothly.
"From the original Sense up to Sense 3.5 we added too many things. The original concept was that it had to be simple and it had to be easy to use and we had that philosophy, but over time it got cluttered," Kodera said.
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/44715/htc-sense-got-too-complicated
w1000i said:
Htc said that Sense 4 is lighter than 3.5 + we have One V with 512 Ram so i think it's possible to port and to work smoothly.
"From the original Sense up to Sense 3.5 we added too many things. The original concept was that it had to be simple and it had to be easy to use and we had that philosophy, but over time it got cluttered," Kodera said.
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/44715/htc-sense-got-too-complicated
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True, but what about internal memory?
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bortak said:
FTFY
ICS is the best thing that happened to android
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Could not agree more.
I'm all up for this an am infact waiting for this to be ported over to the desire. This new Sense sounds like it'll be less on an issue to run on our devices than Sense 3 and 3.5. Plus I'm looking forward to Android 4 on a Sense phone.
Hopefully this starts happening soon!