Hi all,
I am using the following 'mail' programs :
TouchDown for Exchange Mail
Gmail for my gmail
Mail (the standard HTC Sense one) for a pop3 mail account
I can adjust the polling frequency in TouchDown and in Mail, but do not seem to find the frequency in Gmail. Am I blind , did it change in my last Android update or is this on push all the time.
If it is on push, what alternatives do I have to mail (TouchDown does not take non-exchange accounts). I want the notification to be different from my TouchDown and mail account. Any ideas.
Thanks in advance,
Ruud
I don't think you can change the frequency on Gmail as new emails are psuhed to your phone as you receive them.
Hi Olivierlee,
thanks for your reaction. That's exactly what I am afraid of. But what I want to achieve is a not so frequent polling of gmail, I am not using it so much and would hope to save some battery time. Touchdown is also not at push for the same reason.
What other software would be good to recommend allowing to install polling frequency and notification variants.
regards,
Ruud
Why don't you set up Gmail from the Mail app?
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olivierlee said:
Why don't you set up Gmail from the Mail app?
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I guess the main reason is that I am afraid that I can set only one notification sound for incoming mail from both my pop3 account as well as gmail. Now (while using different programs) I can set different sounds, and I really do prefer that.
I will be playing around with the HTC mail client somewhat and eventually decide what way to go. Anyway thanks for confirming gmail is actually a push only client.
Regards,
Ruud
I suggest you try a free app from the market called k-9 mail. Its got all the features of the stock htc mail app and then some. Including the ability to set per account ringtones.
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Hi Dr.M0x,
thanks for this proposal. K9 installed now, certainly looks to have all necessary options, now some getting used to and adjusting.
regards,
Ruud
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Hey
What's the best way to integrate the push gmail in to the HTC mail programme? Seems like I got two points Accessing the same account lol
you cant.
The Google mail application uses push. the other mail program uses pop/imap and is pull.
There had to be another mail program as the googlemail program is not open source, and therefore the widgets cannot access it.
So the native mail application doesn't have IMAP Idle? You can use Exchange with it though.
I heard K-9 has IMAP Idle but someone will need to confirm and compare it to the gmail application.
Yeah which one do you guys use?
So does k9 work with the widget? I'm sure having both running will kill my battery and plus 2 notifications is annoying
Oh and total random, is the led flash multi coloured?
I have looked on this site - and there seems to be some varied answers to this:
Which is better for battery life:
I prefer the look and feel of the HTC Mail app, but would prefer to get email as PUSH rather than setting an hourly sync.
Which is better on the battery? Gmail App or the HTC Mail via Exchange? or are they both the same?
I don't get very many emails a day - usually about 4 or 5 so having them arrive via PUSH seemed a better option? or again is this going to use more battery than just having the phone sync every hour?
Also - rather interesting - Why do the same emails appear differently when viewed in the HTC Mail App to the Gmail App. Some emails appear properly in the Gmail App, but the same email in the HTC Mail App shows nothing (even when it is set to HTML and have tried changing the size all the way to entire message)
Any suggestions, comments. Thanks.
You can use Exchange Activesync with GMail (the service, not the app!) to get mail "pushed" into HTC Mail.
Regards,
Dave
Thanks for the fast reply
I think I must not have been clear in my first post. When using the HTC Mail I have it set up using the Exchange and linking that to my GMail - is that what you mean when you say use Exchange Activesync with GMail?
If so, which, if any is better on battery. GMail application or the Activsync to HTC Mail?
Hope I have not just confused everyone.
Push should use more power than sync once an hour but you can run push on both the HTC Mail app with gmail and with the Gmail application.
I actually run both (Mail app for corporate Exchange server and Gmail for errr Gmail) and whilst clearly they affect battery life they are not a huge drain and a full day or sometimes a day and a half is easily done.
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How do you set up Push with the HTC Mail app with GMail? Originally when I set up my email I had the option (through the HTC Mail app) to have either POP3/IMAP or Exchange. The first time I set up via IMAP I could only sync via a time interval the PUSH option was not there. When I deleted the account and re-set up with Exchange I had the PUSH option.
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Thanks @MARK
How do you set up Push with the HTC Mail app with GMail? Originally when I set up my email I had the option (through the HTC Mail app) to have either POP3/IMAP or Exchange. The first time I set up via IMAP I could only sync via a time interval the PUSH option was not there. When I deleted the account and re-set up with Exchange I had the PUSH option.
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You can access Gmail using Activsync so configure as per Exchange (which as you say, has the push option)
Your can find the settings on this page
http://www.google.com/support/mobile/bin/answer.py?answer=138636
(yes I know it's the WM page but the settings should be the same)
Hi,
Does the email client on the android device is push client,i have an yahoo acoount, i think it does not have push client.
Yeah I wish.
It seems blackberries are the only ones with PUSH from other providers. Plus the built in both GMAIL and MAIL apps confuse the **** out of me and make my desire less desirable.
Try seven beta version, its not in the market place and u need to register online but its free and its really good. Just Google seven Android.
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You need a mail client which supports IMAP idle. Most people recommend K-9 Mail.
The Gmail application supports push mail but can only be used with gmail accounts. The HTC mail application also supports push mail but only for exchange accounts, not IMAP.
pop your accounts into your gmail account and have gmail push it all to you
Lennyuk said:
pop your accounts into your gmail account and have gmail push it all to you
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That's hardly push is it! You still have the delay while you wait for gmail to poll the POP server. No better than using the phones mail client.
khr0n0s said:
That's hardly push is it! You still have the delay while you wait for gmail to poll the POP server. No better than using the phones mail client.
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well actually it saves you battery, gmail checks the pop roughly every 10 minutes, and your phone will only do any work when a mail is there i.e. its pushed.
if you use a normal mail client your trying to "pull every 10 minutes" it will use way way way more battery than gmail pushing the same result.
Lennyuk said:
well actually it saves you battery, gmail checks the pop roughly every 10 minutes, and your phone will only do any work when a mail is there i.e. its pushed.
if you use a normal mail client your trying to "pull every 10 minutes" it will use way way way more battery than gmail pushing the same result.
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The checking time on Google's mail fetcher service is dynamic. If you generally only receive a few mails per day then it will only check a few times per day. In Google's own words,
"Gmail checks individual accounts for new messages at different rates, depending on previous mail fetch attempts. At this time you can’t customize the frequency of automatic mail fetches."
I use POP mail and don't find any great difference in battery drain with it on or off. I understand that this could be an issue for the more battery anal though. I think the real benefit of your method is bandwidth. Polling every 5 or 10 minutes can quickly eat in to a monthly data allowance. This is significant to those who only get a few MB every month. Going through Google's push mail service is a much more bandwidth efficient method.
Lennyuk said:
pop your accounts into your gmail account and have gmail push it all to you
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Yeah i have done that, and i hardly ever receive an email, before that i just check my yahoo.
I have downloaded k-9 mail, hope it does the job.
I never got on with K9 myself.
I get emails all the time with gmail handling all my accounts every 10-15 minutes, oh well each to their own.
Too bad I cannot POP my yahoo with gmail... the asia trick doesn't work anymore.
If anyone does have a method (not upgrading to mail plus ), please share it!
I just had a play with K9 and comparing it to Seven I was not impressed. Its push pull and when i delete a email on my phone it does that on my account too.
I can recommend
since yesterday i have not received a single mail on yahoo through k-9 mail, i think its just does not work, gmail app is wonderful, but transferring my yahoo on gmail doesn't work as well.
samy.3660 said:
since yesterday i have not received a single mail on yahoo through k-9 mail, i think its just does not work, gmail app is wonderful, but transferring my yahoo on gmail doesn't work as well.
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I just did some quick research on this. It looks like yahoo don't support standard IMAP IDLE. Instead they have their own custom Push IMAP protocol. You will have to use Yahoo's own mail client available from the market place to receive yahoo push email.
khr0n0s said:
I just did some quick research on this. It looks like yahoo don't support standard IMAP IDLE. Instead they have their own custom Push IMAP protocol. You will have to use Yahoo's own mail client available from the market place to receive yahoo push email.
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I don't think Yahoos Android client supports push either. I have a very seldom used Yahoo account which I set up on the device, and when I sent an email to it, the application took an age to pick it up.
Regards,
Dave
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I don't think Yahoos Android client supports push either. I have a very seldom used Yahoo account which I set up on the device, and when I sent an email to it, the application took an age to pick it up.
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It sounds like yahoo mail really sucks. Gmail FTW
Well, what do you use?
I use HTC Mail simple because of the home screen widget(hey, its a reason at least) even for my Gmail account(Note, my only account). I have set it as an Exchange mail "As mail arrives(Push)". Hopefully it'll be light at my battery(Theoretically it should, since it won't be repeatedly checking for mails).
What about you?
Somehow I always get 2 notifications (one gmail and one from the htc widget) eventhough I only want the htc one
I use HTC Mail because I think it's much better... especially since I have my hotmail & yahoo mail accounts configured in HTC mail... Another thing I like with HTC mail is that I can go back and read mails offline when I'm not connected to wifi since I don't have an unlimited data plan atm.
Some other things that makes HTC mail better is pinch to zoom, choose between regular or threaded email and much better handling copy / paste / stuff, even though it's implemented in gmail now it's nowhere as good as in HTC mail where selecting text works like a dream.
I use HTC Mail. I like the fact that I can read emails offline. Gmail used to have issues with opening attachments when it was on Eclair but the latest OTA seems to have addressed this issue.
Gmail app for me lol couldn't get on with HTCs mail app
really depends if you prefer pushmail or imap with scheduled retrieve...
I use gmail app as i use gmail as email provider. (but google really does need to stop ****ing around with attachment access, it's kinda ridiculous...)
i use k-9 to have push mail for all accounts.
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Well, what do you use?
I use HTC Mail simple because of the home screen widget(hey, its a reason at least) even for my Gmail account(Note, my only account). I have set it as an Exchange mail "As mail arrives(Push)". Hopefully it'll be light at my battery(Theoretically it should, since it won't be repeatedly checking for mails).
What about you?
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Then try to open an attachment twice its not possible via googlemail+exchange+htcmail... I hate that but its sadly true...
I use HTC Mail for my gmail account using exchange active sync and push, also pretty much just because of the widget. I have noticed that bug with attachments but it doesn't really affect me much.
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k-9 - i think the best , because it is a advancement of g-mail
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k-9 - i think the best , because it is a advancement of g-mail
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Maybe yes, also ProfiMail seems to be very popular under the "Pro-Users". But i wonder if there will ever be a MailClient with proper GMail/Exchange support AND a usable UI that doesnt look like Windows CE...
Htc mail app. There is widget and push that is all in need.... Somehow attachments are fine for me now could this be latest update?
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Yahoo mail for android, only for yahoo obviously but messages are pushed instantly & when i delete mail its actually deleted, i found with htc mail it would only delete it from my phone, when i signed in online mail was still there.
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I had problems with HTC mail, and it used to send 2 mails everytime I send one.
So switched to Gmail app and Yahoo mail for Android app as they both push the mails. Also any deleted mails will be synchronised and removed from the actual accounts.
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HTC Desire still on 2.1
I have disabled Gmail because HTC mail can integrate any mail accounts I use. These include, but aren't limited to Gmail, Exchange and my service provider's primary mail account.
I used to have the Gmail App active as well, but I got really annoyed by the notifications that would pop up two times for my Gmail account. Last but not least I simply like HTC's interface choices, they fit much better into the big picture.
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Then try to open an attachment twice its not possible via googlemail+exchange+htcmail... I hate that but its sadly true...
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Attachments work fine for me.
phentex said:
really depends if you prefer pushmail or imap with scheduled retrieve...
I use gmail app as i use gmail as email provider. (but google really does need to stop ****ing around with attachment access, it's kinda ridiculous...)
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Doesn't both got push mail? The HTC Mail does and when I used Gmail it behaved as if it had push mail(Which I believe it does).
Ive been using Both together. Gmail for my personal account and HTC Mail to manage my Exchange Server account for work. Both push and I only get individual notifications, each with their own icon. It works perfectly so I am a bit confused as to what may be causing others issues.
Gmail app for Gmail and HTC Mail for the MS Exchange server. I like the labels support in the Google app but the HTC app is much prettier and more fun to use.
The Gmail interface is very efficient for dealing with lots of email. Faster than the webpage on a desktop, dare I say
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Attachments work fine for me.
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Hmm thats strange. Have been searching for a solution for this for ever. But the second time i try to open attachements the App always says it's corrupt... and many other Users are reporting this... would you mind posting your settings...?
Thx
Hello,
I am trying to find out a bit more about email push, IMAP and the S3.
Every time I setup my IMAP email accounts, the setup process asks what will the polling time be. Why would we have to set this up when IMAP works with push? We don't have to pull email... unless the S3 does not support push email...
Or, maybe I am setting it wrong?
I have 7 or 8 email addresses and all are going through GMAIL at the moment (setup as labels), and Gmail does a very good job pushing emails... but the back end still calls the email services through POP... so it's not really push at all... plus I can't add Yahoo to it.
Before anyone says "oh well, keep using the gmail app, then!", I am a firm believer in using stock apps first so that I don't have to add layer after layer of applications to do one single task... and if I have a stock email app, that's the one I want to use.
Thanks for your help!
Maildroid works very well in setting up email for push or pull email. No, it's not the stock app, but it will handle multiple email accounts with each account having it's own settings. One account doesn't have to have the same settings as the others.
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Maildroid works very well in setting up email for push or pull email. No, it's not the stock app, but it will handle multiple email accounts with each account having it's own settings. One account doesn't have to have the same settings as the others.
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Thank you, I will try it. I tried k9 but it looks outdated, and it makes a huge contrast with the S3 looks...
Does anyone have any news on this subject?
Push email was available on the native S2 email client.
I also vote for native apps first.
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The native email client does not support IMAP idle. It only offers interval polling. If you're on Exchange, push does work but only with the active sync protocol.
I gave it a try to exchange with my gmail account. It does push but it uses more data and more battery than on the S2 by keeping the phone awake 5min/8h, when it was less than 1min/8h.
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