Hey
What's the best way to integrate the push gmail in to the HTC mail programme? Seems like I got two points Accessing the same account lol
you cant.
The Google mail application uses push. the other mail program uses pop/imap and is pull.
There had to be another mail program as the googlemail program is not open source, and therefore the widgets cannot access it.
So the native mail application doesn't have IMAP Idle? You can use Exchange with it though.
I heard K-9 has IMAP Idle but someone will need to confirm and compare it to the gmail application.
Yeah which one do you guys use?
So does k9 work with the widget? I'm sure having both running will kill my battery and plus 2 notifications is annoying
Oh and total random, is the led flash multi coloured?
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Hi
I had this app set up with hotmail, ive just got rid of that account and set it up with my Gmail.
Question is this....when running my hotmail i had the background set to black, it has now reverted to white (default) and i cant find the option to change back to black !!
cant find it in the settings when in K-9 or in any setting in my main app menu !!
Where the hell has it gone....maybe im going blind !
Any help !?
In the Accounts menu,
press Menu>Settings>Theme>Dark
Hi
Thanks for the answer...
Sweet.
i had some sort of mental block with pressing the Menu button twice !!!
Thanks Mate
Another question for you guys,
Is K9 a good alternative to the GMail app in terms of speed/push emails and battery usage? Does it use IMAP idle?
O and O said:
Another question for you guys,
Is K9 a good alternative to the GMail app in terms of speed/push emails and battery usage? Does it use IMAP idle?
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Yes, K9 pushes email (IMAP) and polls (POP). I would say I receive my email instantly (Gmail and University accounts). Not too sure about the battery but I think push email would drain the battery less no?
As far as I know push is better, that's good to hear, I just now need to find a comparison of the GMail application and K9 and which is better IMAP or Exchange.
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As far as I know push is better, that's good to hear, I just now need to find a comparison of the GMail application and K9 and which is better IMAP or Exchange.
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I seem to have a problem that my contacts are not showing when I type their names in the To column. When I do this in the Gmail app, it will give some suggested email addresses Does anyone else have this problem?
Oh, and to answer your question, K-9 is definitely faster (in fact, my Gmail app doesn't seem to push at all? How do I set it to push? Do I have to set it to auto sync? Even then it takes like a minute or so where K-9 takes about 7 seconds)
is this generally deemed to be a better app than the standard one installed for POP email accounts? will give it a try
Is your K9 using activesync or imap?
I believe you need autosync on.
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Is your K9 using activesync or imap?
I believe you need autosync on.
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My K9 is using IMAP and it's fine. It pushes my gmail account. I was asking about the Gmail app but you're right, I needed to turn the autosync on. Even then, it doesn't push. It takes about a minute or two for my email to come where it only takes about 7 seconds with K-9. Now I'm concerned about the contacts not showing in K-9 I might have to use Gmail app after all
I would use the GMail app for everything but emails. You can select in options what you want to sync and not sync easily.
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I would use the GMail app for everything but emails. You can select in options what you want to sync and not sync easily.
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I only want my Gmail app to sync with my calendar but not email. How do I do this? I go to Settings>Account & sync>Google but I only have the option to Sync now or Remove account? Can't press menu when I reach this either Am I supposed to manually press sync calendar each time?
Press your gmail account under the list of syncable items.
Anyone migrate to K9 how is it?
As you know, we have two different email program in stock rom. "Mail" and "Gmail".
You have to be a google account for to use market and other stuffs. If you add a gmail account to your device your mails checking by "Gmail". You cannot add any POP3 account to Gmail. You should use for stock "Mail" Program for this.
It's look like to for every account we need a different mail program. It's boring and stupid idea. Yes we can add gmail acc. to stock Mail program but this solution is not good, either. Because we are using same account with different programs.
There is a mail program called K-9, we can install this and transfer all account the this program but basic problem is continuing: We must continue to use for "Gmail". We cannot remove gmail acc from this program and to use mail we need 3 different programs
I find this really unlogic.
P.S. I'm sorry for my poor English.
Don't see the issue myself, Gmail is just that, an app for gmail, if you don't want to use gmail then don't sync gmail. I use Gmail, and Mail for a hotmail and an Exchange account. You can use Mail for gmail but you won't have the full functionality of gmail.
i use k-9 since it supports push for imap
not using gmail at all. neither for desire nor at all.
YaPaY said:
As you know, we have two different email program in stock rom. "Mail" and "Gmail".
You have to be a google account for to use market and other stuffs. If you add a gmail account to your device your mails checking by "Gmail". You cannot add any POP3 account to Gmail. You should use for stock "Mail" Program for this.
It's look like to for every account we need a different mail program. It's boring and stupid idea. Yes we can add gmail acc. to stock Mail program but this solution is not good, either. Because we are using same account with different programs.
There is a mail program called K-9, we can install this and transfer all account the this program but basic problem is continuing: We must continue to use for "Gmail". We cannot remove gmail acc from this program and to use mail we need 3 different programs
I find this really unlogic.
P.S. I'm sorry for my poor English.
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Hello Yappay,
You seem a little confused. There are two main ways to access E-Mail on Android:
1. A dedicated app for a certain E-mail provider. The Gmail app on your phone is such a dedicated app, and offers decent background syncing because it's tightly integrated with the system and is configured to poll and receive push notifications for new mail in a way that's very efficient. The problem here is that these dedicated apps can only connect to their respective e-mail services: The Gmail app can only connect to Gmail, the Yahoo!Mail app can only connect to Yahoo, and so on.
2. A generic E-mail app that can connect to various E-mail providers through interfaces like IMAP or POP. The app "E-Mail" on your phone is one of these, as is K9-Mail or Maildroid. It's possible to add multiple accounts to these, including Gmail accounts, because Gmail supports both POP and IMAP.
If you really want to use only one app for all your E-mail, you can add all of your accounts to one of the programs from the second category. I'd recommend IMAP for the connection, because it keeps the server up-to-date with any changes you make to e-mails in the program (moving them to different folders, deleting e-mails etc.).
I have looked on this site - and there seems to be some varied answers to this:
Which is better for battery life:
I prefer the look and feel of the HTC Mail app, but would prefer to get email as PUSH rather than setting an hourly sync.
Which is better on the battery? Gmail App or the HTC Mail via Exchange? or are they both the same?
I don't get very many emails a day - usually about 4 or 5 so having them arrive via PUSH seemed a better option? or again is this going to use more battery than just having the phone sync every hour?
Also - rather interesting - Why do the same emails appear differently when viewed in the HTC Mail App to the Gmail App. Some emails appear properly in the Gmail App, but the same email in the HTC Mail App shows nothing (even when it is set to HTML and have tried changing the size all the way to entire message)
Any suggestions, comments. Thanks.
You can use Exchange Activesync with GMail (the service, not the app!) to get mail "pushed" into HTC Mail.
Regards,
Dave
Thanks for the fast reply
I think I must not have been clear in my first post. When using the HTC Mail I have it set up using the Exchange and linking that to my GMail - is that what you mean when you say use Exchange Activesync with GMail?
If so, which, if any is better on battery. GMail application or the Activsync to HTC Mail?
Hope I have not just confused everyone.
Push should use more power than sync once an hour but you can run push on both the HTC Mail app with gmail and with the Gmail application.
I actually run both (Mail app for corporate Exchange server and Gmail for errr Gmail) and whilst clearly they affect battery life they are not a huge drain and a full day or sometimes a day and a half is easily done.
Thanks @MARK
How do you set up Push with the HTC Mail app with GMail? Originally when I set up my email I had the option (through the HTC Mail app) to have either POP3/IMAP or Exchange. The first time I set up via IMAP I could only sync via a time interval the PUSH option was not there. When I deleted the account and re-set up with Exchange I had the PUSH option.
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Thanks @MARK
How do you set up Push with the HTC Mail app with GMail? Originally when I set up my email I had the option (through the HTC Mail app) to have either POP3/IMAP or Exchange. The first time I set up via IMAP I could only sync via a time interval the PUSH option was not there. When I deleted the account and re-set up with Exchange I had the PUSH option.
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You can access Gmail using Activsync so configure as per Exchange (which as you say, has the push option)
Your can find the settings on this page
http://www.google.com/support/mobile/bin/answer.py?answer=138636
(yes I know it's the WM page but the settings should be the same)
so just wondering what email apps people are using and which ones they prefer. Now that hotmail has released exchange activesync support, im lookin for the best exchange email app, im currently using the stock android email app. Bit dissappointed that there is no unread counter widget for the this similar to sms.
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so just wondering what email apps people are using and which ones they prefer. Now that hotmail has released exchange activesync support, im lookin for the best exchange email app, im currently using the stock android email app. Bit dissappointed that there is no unread counter widget for the this similar to sms.
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Have a look at K-9 mail, it does support exchange. You might also want to take a look at Pure Messenger widget also.
i am also using k-9 since it has imap idle (push mail)
TouchDown - best app for exchange
K-9 didn't worked with my work exchange
Unfortunately, K-9 doesn’t currently work with Hotmail Exchange active sync.
I agree with the op, anyone know of a good email application for Android?
Ideally this is what I would like out of the mail application.
1. To support Hotmail Exchange Active Sync
2. To Support Multiple Exchange accounts including G-Mail
3. To support push email over certain times
4. To allow synchronising of all emails not just one moth
5. To allow the ability to move emails to different folders
6. To be able to create, delete and rename folders
7. To be able to view HTML emails properly
8. To be able to download attachments
9. To have a home page widget that counts unread emails
Hope some bright spark reads this and can either point us in the right direction or create an app that does this.
Hi,
Does the email client on the android device is push client,i have an yahoo acoount, i think it does not have push client.
Yeah I wish.
It seems blackberries are the only ones with PUSH from other providers. Plus the built in both GMAIL and MAIL apps confuse the **** out of me and make my desire less desirable.
Try seven beta version, its not in the market place and u need to register online but its free and its really good. Just Google seven Android.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
You need a mail client which supports IMAP idle. Most people recommend K-9 Mail.
The Gmail application supports push mail but can only be used with gmail accounts. The HTC mail application also supports push mail but only for exchange accounts, not IMAP.
pop your accounts into your gmail account and have gmail push it all to you
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pop your accounts into your gmail account and have gmail push it all to you
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That's hardly push is it! You still have the delay while you wait for gmail to poll the POP server. No better than using the phones mail client.
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That's hardly push is it! You still have the delay while you wait for gmail to poll the POP server. No better than using the phones mail client.
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well actually it saves you battery, gmail checks the pop roughly every 10 minutes, and your phone will only do any work when a mail is there i.e. its pushed.
if you use a normal mail client your trying to "pull every 10 minutes" it will use way way way more battery than gmail pushing the same result.
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well actually it saves you battery, gmail checks the pop roughly every 10 minutes, and your phone will only do any work when a mail is there i.e. its pushed.
if you use a normal mail client your trying to "pull every 10 minutes" it will use way way way more battery than gmail pushing the same result.
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The checking time on Google's mail fetcher service is dynamic. If you generally only receive a few mails per day then it will only check a few times per day. In Google's own words,
"Gmail checks individual accounts for new messages at different rates, depending on previous mail fetch attempts. At this time you can’t customize the frequency of automatic mail fetches."
I use POP mail and don't find any great difference in battery drain with it on or off. I understand that this could be an issue for the more battery anal though. I think the real benefit of your method is bandwidth. Polling every 5 or 10 minutes can quickly eat in to a monthly data allowance. This is significant to those who only get a few MB every month. Going through Google's push mail service is a much more bandwidth efficient method.
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pop your accounts into your gmail account and have gmail push it all to you
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Yeah i have done that, and i hardly ever receive an email, before that i just check my yahoo.
I have downloaded k-9 mail, hope it does the job.
I never got on with K9 myself.
I get emails all the time with gmail handling all my accounts every 10-15 minutes, oh well each to their own.
Too bad I cannot POP my yahoo with gmail... the asia trick doesn't work anymore.
If anyone does have a method (not upgrading to mail plus ), please share it!
I just had a play with K9 and comparing it to Seven I was not impressed. Its push pull and when i delete a email on my phone it does that on my account too.
I can recommend
since yesterday i have not received a single mail on yahoo through k-9 mail, i think its just does not work, gmail app is wonderful, but transferring my yahoo on gmail doesn't work as well.
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since yesterday i have not received a single mail on yahoo through k-9 mail, i think its just does not work, gmail app is wonderful, but transferring my yahoo on gmail doesn't work as well.
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I just did some quick research on this. It looks like yahoo don't support standard IMAP IDLE. Instead they have their own custom Push IMAP protocol. You will have to use Yahoo's own mail client available from the market place to receive yahoo push email.
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I just did some quick research on this. It looks like yahoo don't support standard IMAP IDLE. Instead they have their own custom Push IMAP protocol. You will have to use Yahoo's own mail client available from the market place to receive yahoo push email.
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I don't think Yahoos Android client supports push either. I have a very seldom used Yahoo account which I set up on the device, and when I sent an email to it, the application took an age to pick it up.
Regards,
Dave
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I don't think Yahoos Android client supports push either. I have a very seldom used Yahoo account which I set up on the device, and when I sent an email to it, the application took an age to pick it up.
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It sounds like yahoo mail really sucks. Gmail FTW