I have looked on this site - and there seems to be some varied answers to this:
Which is better for battery life:
I prefer the look and feel of the HTC Mail app, but would prefer to get email as PUSH rather than setting an hourly sync.
Which is better on the battery? Gmail App or the HTC Mail via Exchange? or are they both the same?
I don't get very many emails a day - usually about 4 or 5 so having them arrive via PUSH seemed a better option? or again is this going to use more battery than just having the phone sync every hour?
Also - rather interesting - Why do the same emails appear differently when viewed in the HTC Mail App to the Gmail App. Some emails appear properly in the Gmail App, but the same email in the HTC Mail App shows nothing (even when it is set to HTML and have tried changing the size all the way to entire message)
Any suggestions, comments. Thanks.
You can use Exchange Activesync with GMail (the service, not the app!) to get mail "pushed" into HTC Mail.
Regards,
Dave
Thanks for the fast reply
I think I must not have been clear in my first post. When using the HTC Mail I have it set up using the Exchange and linking that to my GMail - is that what you mean when you say use Exchange Activesync with GMail?
If so, which, if any is better on battery. GMail application or the Activsync to HTC Mail?
Hope I have not just confused everyone.
Push should use more power than sync once an hour but you can run push on both the HTC Mail app with gmail and with the Gmail application.
I actually run both (Mail app for corporate Exchange server and Gmail for errr Gmail) and whilst clearly they affect battery life they are not a huge drain and a full day or sometimes a day and a half is easily done.
Thanks @MARK
How do you set up Push with the HTC Mail app with GMail? Originally when I set up my email I had the option (through the HTC Mail app) to have either POP3/IMAP or Exchange. The first time I set up via IMAP I could only sync via a time interval the PUSH option was not there. When I deleted the account and re-set up with Exchange I had the PUSH option.
eon_designs said:
Thanks @MARK
How do you set up Push with the HTC Mail app with GMail? Originally when I set up my email I had the option (through the HTC Mail app) to have either POP3/IMAP or Exchange. The first time I set up via IMAP I could only sync via a time interval the PUSH option was not there. When I deleted the account and re-set up with Exchange I had the PUSH option.
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You can access Gmail using Activsync so configure as per Exchange (which as you say, has the push option)
Your can find the settings on this page
http://www.google.com/support/mobile/bin/answer.py?answer=138636
(yes I know it's the WM page but the settings should be the same)
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Hi Guys
Have some question
In order to use the market i had to define google email account.
I don't want to work in the push mode with the google email, so i disabled the google sync through "Accounts & sync", but i want to receive google emails every 4 hours.
So i defined the google email account under Mail and defined to receive email every 4 hours.
Problem:
The problem is that because the Google sync is disabled i can not get the google emails every 4 hours.
Question:
Is there any solutions to disable the push google mode and work with 4 hours
email check.
Thanks for the assistance.
alegator23 said:
Hi Guys
Have some question
In order to use the market i had to define google email account.
I don't want to work in the push mode with the google email, so i disabled the google sync through "Accounts & sync", but i want to receive google emails every 4 hours.
So i defined the google email account under Mail and defined to receive email every 4 hours.
Problem:
The problem is that because the Google sync is disabled i can not get the google emails every 4 hours.
Question:
Is there any solutions to disable the push google mode and work with 4 hours
email check.
Thanks for the assistance.
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Not too sure, but I would think receiving email every 4 hours would still require it to be running in push mode? Which would explain why you need sync to be turned on.
Not 100% sure, and would be interested to hear other opinions or solutions to your problem.
In addition i put attention on additional issue,
When my Google sync is ON i receiving emails in push mode to the gmail application , and the strange issue that these emails are not updated on the "MAIL" screen (where i configured the gmail account).
Hope the issue is clear ....
have you defined the gmail app in the mail app as POP, IMAP or Exchange?
DOn;t use POP.
But the sync in Gmail and the mail app should not be related to each other whatsoever. Mine works fine when i set it up to IMAP.
of course, make sure you have always on mobile turned on and have the internet enabled, otherwise all should be gravy....
alegator23 said:
In addition i put attention on additional issue,
When my Google sync is ON i receiving emails in push mode to the gmail application , and the strange issue that these emails are not updated on the "MAIL" screen (where i configured the gmail account).
Hope the issue is clear ....
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I actually get notifications of emails much faster in the Gmail app than I do in the default Mail app. Gmail would instantaneously notify me of any new mail as soon as one is sent. For the default Mail app, it takes at least 5-10 mins before it does that.
I'm not sure if it's because for the default Mail app, the shortest interval you can select for receiving data is 5mins, but for the Gmail app, it's either turned on or off, which might make it instantaneous.
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have you defined the gmail app in the mail app as POP, IMAP or Exchange?
DOn;t use POP.
But the sync in Gmail and the mail app should not be related to each other whatsoever. Mine works fine when i set it up to IMAP.
of course, make sure you have always on mobile turned on and have the internet enabled, otherwise all should be gravy....
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Of course the mobile connection is turned ON. (common )
The gmail accoun in the mail app is configured as IMAP.
Any other suggestions are welcome.
Thanks
midamsax said:
I actually get notifications of emails much faster in the Gmail app than I do in the default Mail app. Gmail would instantaneously notify me of any new mail as soon as one is sent. For the default Mail app, it takes at least 5-10 mins before it does that.
I'm not sure if it's because for the default Mail app, the shortest interval you can select for receiving data is 5mins, but for the Gmail app, it's either turned on or off, which might make it instantaneous.
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This is the issue that i don't want to use the push ( which is the fastest way to receive email), i just want simple gmail configuration which will connect to the mail server every 4 hours and download the messages.
BTW the push requires much battery use (not sure).
alegator23 said:
This is the issue that i don't want to use the push ( which is the fastest way to receive email), i just want simple gmail configuration which will connect to the mail server every 4 hours and download the messages.
BTW the push requires much battery use (not sure).
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I think for the Gmail app, it has to be push. Is there any reason you wouldn't want to use the default Mail app, sync to your gmail account, and set the retrieve interval to be 4 hours? That would solve your issue, would it?
Did the same. Just create an Exchange Acc - Sync every X mins/hours (or Push if you want to).
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Did the same. Just create an Exchange Acc - Sync every X mins/hours (or Push if you want to).
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Pardon my ignorance, but how do you create an exchange account for google?
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Did the same. Just create an Exchange Acc - Sync every X mins/hours (or Push if you want to).
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Pardon my ignorance, but how do you create an exchange account for google?
*Update*
I found some good instructions here:
http://www.google.com/support/mobile/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=138740
It's for the iphone but applies to android as well
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I dont think this is true, due to push email, makes the server from google to basically push email, if there is no email, it doesnt use internet every 4 hours to connect to google server to look for new mail therefore saves battery, while downloading 1 by 1 when they come is equivalent to getting a lot of email at once, for example 1 email every hour = 4 email at once every 4 hours.
patasenko said:
I dont think this is true, due to push email, makes the server from google to basically push email, if there is no email, it doesnt use internet every 4 hours to connect to google server to look for new mail therefore saves battery, while downloading 1 by 1 when they come is equivalent to getting a lot of email at once, for example 1 email every hour = 4 email at once every 4 hours.
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I am not sure it's correct if you gets everyhour 1 email and you need to download it every hour, then i think it's better to connect once and download all the emails (once in 4 hours). But it's not important, i just want to be able to configure the mobile phone according to mine requirements.
Thanks for the respond.
The main reason to disable the push mail, is to disable the night emails.
Is there any possibility to disable the push during the night.
Thanks
I'm using Gmail Exchange ActiveSync and the HTC Mail App, because:
1. The Gmail App seems to be either Push Mail (Constant) or Manual (Menu --> Refresh), whereas I'd prefer it to check for me once an hour.
2. I dislike the Gmail interface
But when I click "Refresh", mail I've deleted via IMAP in Outlook or the Webmail doesn't disappear. It does download new mail though. This link:
http://email.about.com/od/iphonemailtips/qt/Set_Up_Push_Gmail_in_iPhone_Mail.htm
Refers to using Gmail Exchange ActiveSync on the iPhone, says:
"* To delete a message, move it to the [Gmail]/Trash folder.
* To archive a message, delete it from the Inbox or move it to [Gmail]/All Mail."
I don't mind if pressing DELETE Archives or Deletes the message but surely this isn't correct? Both the Gmail App and IMAP delete mail when you click "Refresh" (that have been deleted elsewhere). I shouldn't have to "Manually" delete mail, I've already deleted elsewhere.
Surely this does too?
Thanks
It's suddenly starting working. I must say Sync using Exchange ActiveSync is very hit and miss!
Last night I was finding it was trying to Sync (the white sync circle) for 5-10 minutes+, despite using Wireless and it only having to update 1-2 e-mail differences. I gave up in the end .
It's now not downloading mail in folders other than the Inbox!
I've had to move mail out, refresh, move it back in and then refresh again, it then downloads the mail but this is tricky to do for Sent Items. If it's still playing up tomorrow, I think I'll switch to IMAP. What a mess:
1. Google Sync: Has no ability to say how often it downloads mail. You either have to accept "Push Mail" (and the extra battery it needs) or Manually click Refresh
2. Gmail Exchange ActiveSync: Is proving very unreliable
Annoyingly IMAP doesn't offer Contacts/Calendar Sync, so I'll still have use one of the above methods for these two. Probably Google Sync, as Exchange ActiveSync will create a redundant Mailbox. Hopefully only Real-time Syncing Calendar/Contacts won't have too much draw on battery. I'm pretty sure it's the Mail part that does this.
Now it won't download anything in my Sent Items and instead just re-downloads the same e-mail, that isn't even in Sent Items any more!
IMO Gmail's (Beta) Exchange ActiveSync is well and truly broken! I'm off to re-configure (for the more basic but reliable) IMAP.
IMAP for me too, works well without any issues
IMAP is so much more reliable than Exchange ActiveSync. It's annoying it doesn't sync Calendar/Contacts too though.
I'm using Google Sync for those two, hopefully battery won't be hammered too much. I'm pretty sure it's E-Mail (not Calendar/Contacts) that does this, when Push is enabled.
Hi - is there a way to disable Gmail push and change to check emails to feching in intervals using standard Gmail app?
I don't believe so.
The best you can do is to switch of Gmail syncing altogether and pick up your emails via HTC Mail (or another mail app).
Question though - why do you want to do this anyway? I use the Gmail app with 3 separate accounts, and have no issues with battery life etc, so I can't really see the benefit of not having push email.
Regards,
Dave
Hi,
Does the email client on the android device is push client,i have an yahoo acoount, i think it does not have push client.
Yeah I wish.
It seems blackberries are the only ones with PUSH from other providers. Plus the built in both GMAIL and MAIL apps confuse the **** out of me and make my desire less desirable.
Try seven beta version, its not in the market place and u need to register online but its free and its really good. Just Google seven Android.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
You need a mail client which supports IMAP idle. Most people recommend K-9 Mail.
The Gmail application supports push mail but can only be used with gmail accounts. The HTC mail application also supports push mail but only for exchange accounts, not IMAP.
pop your accounts into your gmail account and have gmail push it all to you
Lennyuk said:
pop your accounts into your gmail account and have gmail push it all to you
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That's hardly push is it! You still have the delay while you wait for gmail to poll the POP server. No better than using the phones mail client.
khr0n0s said:
That's hardly push is it! You still have the delay while you wait for gmail to poll the POP server. No better than using the phones mail client.
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well actually it saves you battery, gmail checks the pop roughly every 10 minutes, and your phone will only do any work when a mail is there i.e. its pushed.
if you use a normal mail client your trying to "pull every 10 minutes" it will use way way way more battery than gmail pushing the same result.
Lennyuk said:
well actually it saves you battery, gmail checks the pop roughly every 10 minutes, and your phone will only do any work when a mail is there i.e. its pushed.
if you use a normal mail client your trying to "pull every 10 minutes" it will use way way way more battery than gmail pushing the same result.
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The checking time on Google's mail fetcher service is dynamic. If you generally only receive a few mails per day then it will only check a few times per day. In Google's own words,
"Gmail checks individual accounts for new messages at different rates, depending on previous mail fetch attempts. At this time you can’t customize the frequency of automatic mail fetches."
I use POP mail and don't find any great difference in battery drain with it on or off. I understand that this could be an issue for the more battery anal though. I think the real benefit of your method is bandwidth. Polling every 5 or 10 minutes can quickly eat in to a monthly data allowance. This is significant to those who only get a few MB every month. Going through Google's push mail service is a much more bandwidth efficient method.
Lennyuk said:
pop your accounts into your gmail account and have gmail push it all to you
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Yeah i have done that, and i hardly ever receive an email, before that i just check my yahoo.
I have downloaded k-9 mail, hope it does the job.
I never got on with K9 myself.
I get emails all the time with gmail handling all my accounts every 10-15 minutes, oh well each to their own.
Too bad I cannot POP my yahoo with gmail... the asia trick doesn't work anymore.
If anyone does have a method (not upgrading to mail plus ), please share it!
I just had a play with K9 and comparing it to Seven I was not impressed. Its push pull and when i delete a email on my phone it does that on my account too.
I can recommend
since yesterday i have not received a single mail on yahoo through k-9 mail, i think its just does not work, gmail app is wonderful, but transferring my yahoo on gmail doesn't work as well.
samy.3660 said:
since yesterday i have not received a single mail on yahoo through k-9 mail, i think its just does not work, gmail app is wonderful, but transferring my yahoo on gmail doesn't work as well.
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I just did some quick research on this. It looks like yahoo don't support standard IMAP IDLE. Instead they have their own custom Push IMAP protocol. You will have to use Yahoo's own mail client available from the market place to receive yahoo push email.
khr0n0s said:
I just did some quick research on this. It looks like yahoo don't support standard IMAP IDLE. Instead they have their own custom Push IMAP protocol. You will have to use Yahoo's own mail client available from the market place to receive yahoo push email.
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I don't think Yahoos Android client supports push either. I have a very seldom used Yahoo account which I set up on the device, and when I sent an email to it, the application took an age to pick it up.
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
I don't think Yahoos Android client supports push either. I have a very seldom used Yahoo account which I set up on the device, and when I sent an email to it, the application took an age to pick it up.
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It sounds like yahoo mail really sucks. Gmail FTW
Well, what do you use?
I use HTC Mail simple because of the home screen widget(hey, its a reason at least) even for my Gmail account(Note, my only account). I have set it as an Exchange mail "As mail arrives(Push)". Hopefully it'll be light at my battery(Theoretically it should, since it won't be repeatedly checking for mails).
What about you?
Somehow I always get 2 notifications (one gmail and one from the htc widget) eventhough I only want the htc one
I use HTC Mail because I think it's much better... especially since I have my hotmail & yahoo mail accounts configured in HTC mail... Another thing I like with HTC mail is that I can go back and read mails offline when I'm not connected to wifi since I don't have an unlimited data plan atm.
Some other things that makes HTC mail better is pinch to zoom, choose between regular or threaded email and much better handling copy / paste / stuff, even though it's implemented in gmail now it's nowhere as good as in HTC mail where selecting text works like a dream.
I use HTC Mail. I like the fact that I can read emails offline. Gmail used to have issues with opening attachments when it was on Eclair but the latest OTA seems to have addressed this issue.
Gmail app for me lol couldn't get on with HTCs mail app
really depends if you prefer pushmail or imap with scheduled retrieve...
I use gmail app as i use gmail as email provider. (but google really does need to stop ****ing around with attachment access, it's kinda ridiculous...)
i use k-9 to have push mail for all accounts.
Dragooon123 said:
Well, what do you use?
I use HTC Mail simple because of the home screen widget(hey, its a reason at least) even for my Gmail account(Note, my only account). I have set it as an Exchange mail "As mail arrives(Push)". Hopefully it'll be light at my battery(Theoretically it should, since it won't be repeatedly checking for mails).
What about you?
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Then try to open an attachment twice its not possible via googlemail+exchange+htcmail... I hate that but its sadly true...
I use HTC Mail for my gmail account using exchange active sync and push, also pretty much just because of the widget. I have noticed that bug with attachments but it doesn't really affect me much.
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k-9 - i think the best , because it is a advancement of g-mail
meo said:
k-9 - i think the best , because it is a advancement of g-mail
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Maybe yes, also ProfiMail seems to be very popular under the "Pro-Users". But i wonder if there will ever be a MailClient with proper GMail/Exchange support AND a usable UI that doesnt look like Windows CE...
Htc mail app. There is widget and push that is all in need.... Somehow attachments are fine for me now could this be latest update?
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Yahoo mail for android, only for yahoo obviously but messages are pushed instantly & when i delete mail its actually deleted, i found with htc mail it would only delete it from my phone, when i signed in online mail was still there.
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I had problems with HTC mail, and it used to send 2 mails everytime I send one.
So switched to Gmail app and Yahoo mail for Android app as they both push the mails. Also any deleted mails will be synchronised and removed from the actual accounts.
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HTC Desire still on 2.1
I have disabled Gmail because HTC mail can integrate any mail accounts I use. These include, but aren't limited to Gmail, Exchange and my service provider's primary mail account.
I used to have the Gmail App active as well, but I got really annoyed by the notifications that would pop up two times for my Gmail account. Last but not least I simply like HTC's interface choices, they fit much better into the big picture.
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Then try to open an attachment twice its not possible via googlemail+exchange+htcmail... I hate that but its sadly true...
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Attachments work fine for me.
phentex said:
really depends if you prefer pushmail or imap with scheduled retrieve...
I use gmail app as i use gmail as email provider. (but google really does need to stop ****ing around with attachment access, it's kinda ridiculous...)
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Doesn't both got push mail? The HTC Mail does and when I used Gmail it behaved as if it had push mail(Which I believe it does).
Ive been using Both together. Gmail for my personal account and HTC Mail to manage my Exchange Server account for work. Both push and I only get individual notifications, each with their own icon. It works perfectly so I am a bit confused as to what may be causing others issues.
Gmail app for Gmail and HTC Mail for the MS Exchange server. I like the labels support in the Google app but the HTC app is much prettier and more fun to use.
The Gmail interface is very efficient for dealing with lots of email. Faster than the webpage on a desktop, dare I say
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Attachments work fine for me.
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Hmm thats strange. Have been searching for a solution for this for ever. But the second time i try to open attachements the App always says it's corrupt... and many other Users are reporting this... would you mind posting your settings...?
Thx